Lurdan Posted February 16, 2015 Posted February 16, 2015 Hi, I'm trying to track down a bug that appears to be related to this mod (at teast the bug goes away if I uninstall MME). Bug:Whenever I put on clothes my boobs becom huge deformed bizzaro things with nipples so pointed I could probably impale my enemies on them. Pic for clarity: I then noticed that the pointy nipples look like they're being sucked in to the suction cups and wondered if it was a feature intended for the milking curaiss and there's something screwed up with my install? Info: MME Version: 2015-02-14 Fixes I've tried: - Switching mods off until the bug went away. - Confirmed it was MME by reinstaling and the bug came back. - Playing with breast scaling and breast curve in both MME and racemenu. - Did a google search and read a few pages of this thread. - Did a Bodyslide 'batch build' on all clothes from mods to make sure they were for the CBBE body (Made no difference). Can you please confirm whether there's something in this mod which may lead to this bug? Any help appreciated, otherwise the offensive pointyness of my boobs means I may try and ram enemies in a milky boob charge of doom, then wear the resulting impaled bandits like nipple rings, which to be frank is a bit gory and downright poor taste in fashion.
Ed86 Posted February 16, 2015 Author Posted February 16, 2015 Hi, I'm trying to track down a bug that appears to be related to this mod (at teast the bug goes away if I uninstall MME). Bug: Whenever I put on clothes my boobs becom huge deformed bizzaro things with nipples so pointed I could probably impale my enemies on them. Pic for clarity: Bizaro-Boobies.jpg I then noticed that the pointy nipples look like they're being sucked in to the suction cups and wondered if it was a feature intended for the milking curaiss and there's something screwed up with my install? Info: MME Version: 2015-02-14 Fixes I've tried: - Switching mods off until the bug went away. - Confirmed it was MME by reinstaling and the bug came back. - Playing with breast scaling and breast curve in both MME and racemenu. - Did a google search and read a few pages of this thread. - Did a Bodyslide 'batch build' on all clothes from mods to make sure they were for the CBBE body (Made no difference). Can you please confirm whether there's something in this mod which may lead to this bug? Any help appreciated, otherwise the offensive pointyness of my boobs means I may try and ram enemies in a milky boob charge of doom, then wear the resulting impaled bandits like nipple rings, which to be frank is a bit gory and downright poor taste in fashion. probably skeleton problem, or something wrong with bodyslide preset u've applied to all armors that happens with all females? disabling breast scaling fixed issue?
Ruathan Posted February 16, 2015 Posted February 16, 2015 probably skeleton problem, or something wrong with bodyslide preset u've applied to all armorsthat happens with all females? disabling breast scaling fixed issue? To add to this, try disabling the scaling limit. I've been poking at this issue and have found that, for me, that is the best fix.
Lurdan Posted February 16, 2015 Posted February 16, 2015 probably skeleton problem, or something wrong with bodyslide preset u've applied to all armors that happens with all females? disabling breast scaling fixed issue? XP32 Skeleton with CBBE body, so nothing unusual with the skeleton setup. No just with the player, though I haven't made any NPC's milk maids yet. Yes, disabling breast scaling in MME fixes the issue. <><> I have now found that the bug appears when maximum breast size = 20 or above in MME. This is a repeatable bug and tested with the following 'minimum mods' load order: Skyrim.esm Update.esm Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Dawnguard.esm Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp HearthFires.esm Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp ZaZAnimationPack.esm SexLab.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm SexLabAroused.esm hdtHighHeel.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp AI Overhaul.esp BarenziahQuestMarkers_Droppable.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp Brawl Bugs CE.esp SexLabMatchMaker.esp Mighty Beasts - Werewolf.esp NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SOS - Shop.esp MilkModNEW.esp SkyUI.esp iHUD.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp zarias_restraints.esp Pic for reference: The maid is carrying 16 unils of milk (current maximum) and has breasts turned up to silly size to make the bug obvious. Looking at the the picture it would appear the bug involves curves, particularly the curve on the bottom of the breast, becoming concave rather than convex like its meant to be. I don't know how skeleton nodes are placed or how curves are applied between nodes, so am reaching the limit of what I can do to trace this bug. The 'minimum mods' load order posted above is now saved as a profile in MO in case anyone wants me to test the bug further.
AngelBiscuit Posted February 16, 2015 Posted February 16, 2015 I have an issue where the pumping stations dont have any texture :C
Saeros Posted February 16, 2015 Posted February 16, 2015 I have an issue where the pumping stations dont have any texture :C you must download the ZAZ textures pack
Ed86 Posted February 16, 2015 Author Posted February 16, 2015 probably skeleton problem, or something wrong with bodyslide preset u've applied to all armors that happens with all females? disabling breast scaling fixed issue? XP32 Skeleton with CBBE body, so nothing unusual with the skeleton setup. No just with the player, though I haven't made any NPC's milk maids yet. Yes, disabling breast scaling in MME fixes the issue. <><> I have now found that the bug appears when maximum breast size = 20 or above in MME. This is a repeatable bug and tested with the following 'minimum mods' load order: Skyrim.esm Update.esm Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Dawnguard.esm Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp HearthFires.esm Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp ZaZAnimationPack.esm SexLab.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm SexLabAroused.esm hdtHighHeel.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp AI Overhaul.esp BarenziahQuestMarkers_Droppable.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp Brawl Bugs CE.esp SexLabMatchMaker.esp Mighty Beasts - Werewolf.esp NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SOS - Shop.esp MilkModNEW.esp SkyUI.esp iHUD.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp zarias_restraints.esp Pic for reference: Bizaro-Boobies-02.jpg The maid is carrying 16 unils of milk (current maximum) and has breasts turned up to silly size to make the bug obvious. Looking at the the picture it would appear the bug involves curves, particularly the curve on the bottom of the breast, becoming concave rather than convex like its meant to be. I don't know how skeleton nodes are placed or how curves are applied between nodes, so am reaching the limit of what I can do to trace this bug. The 'minimum mods' load order posted above is now saved as a profile in MO in case anyone wants me to test the bug further. since "Yes, disabling breast scaling in MME fixes the issue." there is no bug, everything works as it should, the problem is on the other side, its user 1) you didnt install requirements 2) you set some crazy values in mcm 3) you havent uninstalled previous version/updated correctly
MasterPiece300 Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 hey ed86 i did some adjustments to the load order so that all required mods go first including the ones that interact with mme. also changed it around to see if it helped nothing changed. i also trying going back to an old version but it also did not help. changing back to an old version helped me on another bug that caused all of my milk maids including my character to begin feeding lactacid again. this happens when their arousal are maxed out and gets an instant boobgasm when the milking process begins. other then that the mod is working perfectly. on the first bug tho, i managed to fix it but only when i disabled psq. also thanks for that "special sweet rolls" recipe you included, lol, it made the female cum bottles i get more useful. well, you can try using save tool to erase mme's scripts and forms and making clean save i used the clean save tool and then tried starting a brand new game to see if it would fix these two issues but still no dice. my guess is that its conflicting with something on the psq mod. as for the other issue it still persisted and only managed to fix it by reverting to an old version. I also tried checking if the psq mod creater had released an update. any other suggestions?
chajapa Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 Well I cannot get this to work..help. Your post is not helpful so how can you expect help? FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS Then it will work. See? Simple. Hope my answer was more helpful than your....almost-a-question...
dudesim Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 Well I cannot get this to work..help. Your post is not helpful so how can you expect help? FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS Then it will work. See? Simple. Hope my answer was more helpful than your....almost-a-question... Good to know.. But it still doesn't work? I have put everthing listed in..)
chajapa Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 Well I cannot get this to work..help. Your post is not helpful so how can you expect help? FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS Then it will work. See? Simple. Hope my answer was more helpful than your....almost-a-question... Good to know.. But it still doesn't work? I have put everthing listed in..) No... you haven't. Look at the requirements. Look at the requirements of the requirements. If you follow the directions, this mod works fine. I'm not making fun of you. Leaving out something simple can stop ANY mod from working and it's usually something silly like just forgetting to check a box or something.
dudesim Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 Well I cannot get this to work..help. Your post is not helpful so how can you expect help? FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS Then it will work. See? Simple. Hope my answer was more helpful than your....almost-a-question... Good to know.. But it still doesn't work? I have put everthing listed in..) No... you haven't. Look at the requirements. Look at the requirements of the requirements. If you follow the directions, this mod works fine. I'm not making fun of you. Leaving out something simple can stop ANY mod from working and it's usually something silly like just forgetting to check a box or something. I have got this to work last week.... I had to reinstall the game not because this mod.... but have not got it to this time, did recheck everthing stiil doesn't like work for me May have to give up for now thanks
AngelBiscuit Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 I have an issue where the pumping stations dont have any texture :C you must download the ZAZ textures pack Oh ok i will, thanks alot :3 Edit: ummm if its not to much where can i find zaz texture packs? i already intalled zaz animation pack and searched for the texture packs here in the site but cant find it Edit1: oh i saw it so dumb of me not to download it with the animation packs
Ed86 Posted February 17, 2015 Author Posted February 17, 2015 Well I cannot get this to work..help. well then i suggest you go to church and pray god to send you enlightenment as mere mortal i lack the wisdom of the gods, to know what you cannot get to work, and which of yours karmic burdens prevent it from working hey ed86 i did some adjustments to the load order so that all required mods go first including the ones that interact with mme. also changed it around to see if it helped nothing changed. i also trying going back to an old version but it also did not help. changing back to an old version helped me on another bug that caused all of my milk maids including my character to begin feeding lactacid again. this happens when their arousal are maxed out and gets an instant boobgasm when the milking process begins. other then that the mod is working perfectly. on the first bug tho, i managed to fix it but only when i disabled psq. also thanks for that "special sweet rolls" recipe you included, lol, it made the female cum bottles i get more useful. well, you can try using save tool to erase mme's scripts and forms and making clean save i used the clean save tool and then tried starting a brand new game to see if it would fix these two issues but still no dice. my guess is that its conflicting with something on the psq mod. as for the other issue it still persisted and only managed to fix it by reverting to an old version. I also tried checking if the psq mod creater had released an update. any other suggestions? well only two... maybe you have merged patch or translated version?
kqminh1989 Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 i have a bug in update 14-2 It seem that i cant create a new milk maid. I must use debug to make 2 milk maid slot, after 3 (inclued myseft), i cant add anymore event make milk master lv 40. And in debug mode, when i change milk overall, it alway go to milk in this time, somthing wrong with the value
Ed86 Posted February 17, 2015 Author Posted February 17, 2015 i have a bug in update 14-2 It seem that i cant create a new milk maid. I must use debug to make 2 milk maid slot, after 3 (inclued myseft), i cant add anymore event make milk master lv 40. And in debug mode, when i change milk overall, it alway go to milk in this time, somthing wrong with the value hm... what it says when you are trying to make new maid? that script weren't changed for a long time so there shouldn't be any issues will fix mcm in next version, doesnt affect mod
Lurdan Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 since "Yes, disabling breast scaling in MME fixes the issue." there is no bug, everything works as it should, the problem is on the other side, its user 1) you didnt install requirements 2) you set some crazy values in mcm 3) you havent uninstalled previous version/updated correctly The answer is number one, failure to install papyrus util. I appear to have been an idiot and somehow missed that when installing, apologies for that. Thanks for the help, issue resolved and thanks a lot for making this fun mod.
chajapa Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 Ed86, OK, I've tried everything I can think of. How the hell do I get RID of the damn particle effect? It doesn't line up. I can't turn it off. Reset mod. Uncheck milk leaking through clothes, uncheck milk leak textures, uncheck milk leak effect.... and STILL have the damn particle effect when leaking. I just want the particle effect gone. You used to have it as a choice when installing. I stopped choosing it because, quite frankly, it doesn't work. I use HDT. Might be fine for folks NOT using HDT, but.... maddening...
Ed86 Posted February 17, 2015 Author Posted February 17, 2015 @chajapa @Ed86 I tested HDT is attached correctly on breast-cups (I painted the NPC Breast weight bones in bodyslide to suction-cups), but no to the apparatus (I have to investigate). I think milking machine animation is designed for BPP body. ..during suction, HDT not working.. it's a shame.. maybe rewriting the animation to remove the BBP/TBPP?.. but I am not an animator. edit: I understood. The new Caliente CBBE HDT, no longer has the L/R PreBreast bone (no more TBBP, is HDT!). set to L/R Breast in nifskope and removed the unnecessary. Now the cups are hooked up correctly to the HDT animation. http://gfycat.com/EachActualAmurminnow I just have to correct the coordinates to match my bodyslide preset. I don't know if it serves to something.. maybe an animation without BBP with these cups could work? while you are there maybe you could look at \meshes\ZaZ-UltimateDataPack\ZaZ - Milk-O-Matic\Base II\MME_MilkLeakL \meshes\ZaZ-UltimateDataPack\ZaZ - Milk-O-Matic\Base II\MME_MilkLeakR ok, but I'm not so expert to understand this problem.. I'll give a look tomorrow maybe I find something.. looked into this problem but I haven't been able to find a good solution.. sorry maybe an experienced modder could help.. -------------------------- now, I noticed a few things (I have lastest version): - when feeding with lactacid the Feeder meshes is not aligned with my character (feeding her neck ) I use a CBBE_HDT body with XPMSE 2.43.. maybe it's a known issue (machine is calibrated to different skeleton?) - the milk machine feeding animation is not always initiated..(only sometimes) is this normal? - the milk-cuirass in the machine, change color (only the harness, not panties.. become bright) -------------------------- lastly... I have made a different version of bodyslide milking-cuirass (panties +ZAP collar) compatible with Milk-O-Matic I put the file here, if you are interested to try it MME Bodyslide - MilkCuirass (Panties) - by Saeros.7z ..bye! S. that preset doesnt show up in bodyslide
Ed86 Posted February 17, 2015 Author Posted February 17, 2015 Ed86, OK, I've tried everything I can think of. How the hell do I get RID of the damn particle effect? It doesn't line up. I can't turn it off. Reset mod. Uncheck milk leaking through clothes, uncheck milk leak textures, uncheck milk leak effect.... and STILL have the damn particle effect when leaking. I just want the particle effect gone. You used to have it as a choice when installing. I stopped choosing it because, quite frankly, it doesn't work. I use HDT. Might be fine for folks NOT using HDT, but.... maddening... well for me it works as it should even in my old bloated save that ctd on every 2nd save i guess you could try removing \meshes\ZaZ-UltimateDataPack\ZaZ - Milk-O-Matic\Base II\MME_MilkLeakL \meshes\ZaZ-UltimateDataPack\ZaZ - Milk-O-Matic\Base II\MME_MilkLeakR
chajapa Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 Not sure how this is even possible, but I deleted those meshes and I still get the particle effect. Damn thing is like a sticky booger.... I just can't get rid of it. It SHOULD go away just by making sure the leak effect is not checked... right? I'm going to try uninstalling, saving, and then cleaning the save with savetool and try using the feature where it removes all forms from a plugin.... but.... not sure how that works if the plugin isn't active.... weird..
Saeros Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 @chajapa @Ed86 I tested HDT is attached correctly on breast-cups (I painted the NPC Breast weight bones in bodyslide to suction-cups), but no to the apparatus (I have to investigate). I think milking machine animation is designed for BPP body. ..during suction, HDT not working.. it's a shame.. maybe rewriting the animation to remove the BBP/TBPP?.. but I am not an animator. edit: I understood. The new Caliente CBBE HDT, no longer has the L/R PreBreast bone (no more TBBP, is HDT!). set to L/R Breast in nifskope and removed the unnecessary. Now the cups are hooked up correctly to the HDT animation. http://gfycat.com/EachActualAmurminnow I just have to correct the coordinates to match my bodyslide preset. I don't know if it serves to something.. maybe an animation without BBP with these cups could work? while you are there maybe you could look at \meshes\ZaZ-UltimateDataPack\ZaZ - Milk-O-Matic\Base II\MME_MilkLeakL \meshes\ZaZ-UltimateDataPack\ZaZ - Milk-O-Matic\Base II\MME_MilkLeakR ok, but I'm not so expert to understand this problem.. I'll give a look tomorrow maybe I find something.. looked into this problem but I haven't been able to find a good solution.. sorry maybe an experienced modder could help.. -------------------------- now, I noticed a few things (I have lastest version): - when feeding with lactacid the Feeder meshes is not aligned with my character (feeding her neck ) I use a CBBE_HDT body with XPMSE 2.43.. maybe it's a known issue (machine is calibrated to different skeleton?) - the milk machine feeding animation is not always initiated..(only sometimes) is this normal? - the milk-cuirass in the machine, change color (only the harness, not panties.. become bright) -------------------------- lastly... I have made a different version of bodyslide milking-cuirass (panties +ZAP collar) compatible with Milk-O-Matic I put the file here, if you are interested to try it MME Bodyslide - MilkCuirass (Panties) - by Saeros.7z ..bye! S. that preset doesnt show up in bodyslide yes, you're right! I forgot the folder "bodyslide" in the tree-folder.. D'OH! try this: (MME) Bodyslide - MilkCuirass (Panties) V2 - by Saeros.7z I am sorry for that.
grandslasher Posted February 17, 2015 Posted February 17, 2015 How can i have a custom armor behave as a parasite armor? or rather how can i add an armor to the list of parasite armors?
Ed86 Posted February 17, 2015 Author Posted February 17, 2015 Not sure how this is even possible, but I deleted those meshes and I still get the particle effect. Damn thing is like a sticky booger.... I just can't get rid of it. It SHOULD go away just by making sure the leak effect is not checked... right? I'm going to try uninstalling, saving, and then cleaning the save with savetool and try using the feature where it removes all forms from a plugin.... but.... not sure how that works if the plugin isn't active.... weird.. its magic! its leaking all the time or during/after action? leaking were always installed since it was added, it just had no nifs in previous versions maybe check you mod manager/script folder, maybe theres old script somewhere How can i have a custom armor behave as a parasite armor? or rather how can i add an armor to the list of parasite armors? name it with a following string inside or make a request -Spriggan Armor -Spriggan Host -Living Arm -Hermaeus Mora -Tentacle Armor
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