Sexout Intimacy

[Sagebrush61]

Female/Female sex definitely works now and results in relationship of lovers afterwards.  Spunk also works, if I'm judging times correctly my courier will be having her lover's child sometime during the middle of the battle of Hoover Dam.  I splurged and bought 2 "Penetrators" from the sexout store, tested it and it shows on my Courier if I equip it in inventory and look at character in 3rd person.  I gave one Penetrator to my Lover when I got a Gift dialog option, she is the dominant female in the relationship and so far I've never had the opportunity to choose animations during sex.  I'm assuming the "Giver" is position A?  Anyway, during genital sex the penetrator did not show up on either character.  The sex was [Genital: Top] but it must have been a riding animation because courier was on top during sex even though the medical scanner and Spunk show''s the Courier was definitely the one who recieved during sex.  Is there some other way of getting strap-ons into your sex partner's inventory than the gift dialog if they don't have a companion wheel?  And am I correct in thinking that the NPC female needs a strap-on if they are the giver in the animation or is that handled internally by the mod?

[t3589]

Female/Female sex definitely works now and results in relationship of lovers afterwards.  Spunk also works, if I'm judging times correctly my courier will be having her lover's child sometime during the middle of the battle of Hoover Dam.  I splurged and bought 2 "Penetrators" from the sexout store, tested it and it shows on my Courier if I equip it in inventory and look at character in 3rd person.  I gave one Penetrator to my Lover when I got a Gift dialog option, she is the dominant female in the relationship and so far I've never had the opportunity to choose animations during sex.  I'm assuming the "Giver" is position A?  Anyway, during genital sex the penetrator did not show up on either character.  The sex was [Genital: Top] but it must have been a riding animation because courier was on top during sex even though the medical scanner and Spunk show''s the Courier was definitely the one who recieved during sex.  Is there some other way of getting strap-ons into your sex partner's inventory than the gift dialog if they don't have a companion wheel?  And am I correct in thinking that the NPC female needs a strap-on if they are the giver in the animation or is that handled internally by the mod?

 

Yeah that's probably the problem.  She didn't have the item anymore after you gave it to her if she responded with a charity thanks.  I'll fix it.

 

ActorA/ActorC.  [Genital: Top] = NPC on Top.

 

EDIT: Try the new one.  Sex toys should stick in inventory now when given as gifts.  Tested on Penetrator and Black Dildo.

 

EDITx2: Added Solo option to solicitation.

Edited August 17, 2015 by t3589

[Sagebrush61]

Still not seeing strap-ons equip during sex, either recieving or once during a quickie when Courier was the giver.  Doesn't bother me much because I'm not that big a fan of strap-ons anyway (prefer scissors, but haven't seen an animation like that in New Vegas).  It does bother me that it's working for you but not for me, so I'm trying to experiment a little.  Turned off Damaged Outfit Swapping on the general theory that anything which affects inventory and auto-equipping of items might cause a conflict, but there was no change.  My other thought was it might be Pregnancy, since it imposes some armor restrictions and swaps clothing models as pregnancy progresses.  I still have about 11 in-game days left before giving birth, not sure how many real world days that will take me, depends upon playing time. 

 

I also wondered if having more than one strap-on in player inventory might have a negative impact?  I had to return to the Sexout store and restock because I gave my last "Penetrator" away.  Bought a wide selection and tested them and they appear on my character when equipped so the textures and meshes are present, just not equipping during sex.  I stored all but one in a closet in the Lucky 38 just to be safe.  I'll continue testing to see what happens.

[KRSG]

So had a sex mini-game with Willow and now Casual Dialog has been replaced by Lover. Is this a permanent change in the relationship or something temporary to reflect her current mood?

 

So outside of speaking to her and doing Activities with her after a mini-game (by the way, does it need to be actually having sex with one another or will any of the mini-games suffice?) when Afterglow is in effect (how exactly does Afterglow activate and how long is it supposed to last becuase sometimes it seems to reset to 0 instantly) as well as just spending time with her, how else does one raise the Love Attribute? Because I do all these things and still at 0?

 

Also, having sex through the mini-games seems to rise my SLP level dangerously high. I play in Hardcore mode with Project Nevada with the sleep setting moderately high (475 per day) do that way by 9 pm my character is a tad sleepy. Combined with Lust, Spunk, and SOI, before I had to start over there was an issue where my character would actually die from Sleep Deprivation after coming multiple times when having sex with Willow if the SLP level was too high initially. It's possible to go from 13 to 230 in one single session. Considering all the different mods I have that affect so many aspects of the game, I doubt it's this. I did notice this happening with wsex, where you could only have sex once a day or so, and over time, as your character gains more experience, the frequency would also increase. Perhaps that's the case here. I'll continue looking.

[KRSG]

*Stares at screen with the most WTF look on his face*

 

The Love Attribute just jumped up to 99. I say just because a minute or so ago it was at 0. Doing a regular Hang Out now when I checked debug and saw it. So do these Attributes need a few several Cycles before they properly update or something?

 

EDIT: I'm sorry. That last sentence sounded a quite rude. I'm not trying to be rude, or pushy, or in any way negative. Just massively confused.

[t3589]

@Sage: Works fine for me.  Tested it again.  My guess is it's your pregnant body re-equipping.

 

@KRSG:  Lover = Casual Sex Partner.  Love won't accumulate until they think your trustworthy.  I too play hardcore/Project Nevada, no sleep problems at all on defaults.

 

EDIT: @Sage: Try this esm.  Walk up to any female NPC.  Engage 'regular' dialog (not hotkey).  Select TEST.  And make sure you have a strapon in your inventory.

 

EDIT EDIT: @ KRSG: Don't sweat it.  You're the only one that thought that.

Edited August 19, 2015 by t3589

[KRSG]

So then it's probably a Lust/Spunk issue. Okay, Thx. Also partners, I mean married, now. So trust was the issue. Hmm. How massive of an overhaul would it be for Sex, Love, and Trust to correlate with each other? As in you can't have Sex until a certain amount of Trust is obtained. And doing more and nore activities and spending time with one another will cause them to grow at an even faster rate. And the relationship levels would need their own value levels before the relationship can progress. I just feel like having sex and doing activities multiple times should have a greater impact on how things progress.

 

Also Lust. At one point, it was -530, despite us being together in a relationship and none the if the other Attributes being at a level where it should be that low. An earlier post mentioned being away from the NPC for an extended amount of time should have an Attribute set to 0 and no lower. Could something similar be set for Lust and Desire?

[KRSG]

Okay good. Been a really long week and am now just really getting some rest. Really don't want to project any feelings onto anybody.

 

So what do think about Relationship specific quests and actions? Just something to do and complete over the game with an NPC?

 

Like say a honeymoon quest to a specific location? Or a specific date location?

Edited August 18, 2015 by KRSG

[t3589]

So then it's probably a Lust/Spunk issue. Okay, Thx. Also partners, I mean married, now. So trust was the issue. Hmm. How massive of an overhaul would it be for Sex, Love, and Trust to correlate with each other? As in you can't have Sex until a certain amount of Trust is obtained. And doing more and nore activities and spending time with one another will cause them to grow at an even faster rate. And the relationship levels would need their own value levels before the relationship can progress. I just feel like having sex and doing activities multiple times should have a greater impact on how things progress.

 

Also Lust. At one point, it was -530, despite us being together in a relationship and none the if the other Attributes being at a level where it should be that low. An earlier post mentioned being away from the NPC for an extended amount of time should have an Attribute set to 0 and no lower. Could something similar be set for Lust and Desire?

 

You're assuming it should always progress.  This mod does not guarantee that the NPC you like will like you back.  It just doesn't.

 

I'd need to know how it got that low before I can make adjustments.  I'll poke around and see what I can find.

 

EDIT:  There are tons of things planned that aren't in yet.  However, the esm is primarily a framework for modders to use.  I'm sure all kinds of adventures can be set up eventually.  Right now we're still rebuilding from the alpha.

Edited August 18, 2015 by t3589

[KRSG]

Gotcha.

 

Don't really know what happened. All was fine. Then we went from Lovers, to Partners, to Spouses all within 10 mins real time. Could be because I picked the option to Make Out after each and she replied with Maybe. The thing is, my options at the time were Make Out, Argue and I think Ignore. Only Make Out seemed like the correct response to those situations. We did just Upgrade our relationship status after all.

 

Would the response "Mhm" after picking "Flattery" and "Affable" imply I used those responses one too many times?

[t3589]

Gotcha.

 

Don't really know what happened. All was fine. Then we went from Lovers, to Partners, to Spouses all within 10 mins real time. Could be because I picked the option to Make Out after each and she replied with Maybe. The thing is, my options at the time were Make Out, Argue and I think Ignore. Only Make Out seemed like the correct response to those situations. We did just Upgrade our relationship status after all.

 

Would the response "Mhm" after picking "Flattery" and "Affable" imply I used those responses one too many times?

 

Actually it probably has more to do with that bit being incomplete. lol  Currently, some things are set to 'easy/fast' for testing purposes.  Later things will change.  Don't forget.  There's still NPC>NPC interactions to do.  Which means you're currently experiencing the mod minus NPCs fighting/competing/blocking approaches/getting upset over who you talk to, etc.  There's still public morals to do also.

 

If you're playing the mod currently, thinking this is how it's going to be, you're in for a real shock as we move forward.

 

Mhm was changed from Thanks.  Nothing bad about getting it, it could mean you're out of those for the day, or not.  Mind the highlighted dialog.  I left it that way so you could have clues.  So if it's dark text one time, and the next time you see it it's highlighted, that means it's a different option that you haven't chosen yet.

Edited August 18, 2015 by t3589

[Sagebrush61]

Ok, progress report.  I tried your test ESM on my pregnant character both with the pregnancy mod enabled and again with it disabled, also with PipboyRemover mod disabled (which required using console to add Pipboy back).   When I had sex with someone in a private area where all clothes got stripped there was no strap-on visible.  When I tried having sex with someone on the street where my clothes remained on there was a strap-on equipped, 3 different varieties worked so far.  Tried loading an old character who had never been pregnant: same results,  if all Courier clothes are removed, no strap-on, if clothes remain on the strapon equips.

 

I also tried turning off the Spunk setting "Stapons are cocks" or something like that, doesn't effect the results.  It seems to be related to clothes stripping somehow.  In my SCR settings for Player I have it set for T3 Cali because I have nude textures and meshes installed but it doesn't seem to make a difference if I use the BNB body bodysuit from SexoutNG.

 

Maybe some of my results will give someone an idea, because I'm sort of baffled why this is happening.  None of the things I thought would make a difference seem to change it.

[KRSG]

Ok, progress report. I tried your test ESM on my pregnant character both with the pregnancy mod enabled and again with it disabled, also with PipboyRemover mod disabled (which required using console to add Pipboy back). When I had sex with someone in a private area where all clothes got stripped there was no strap-on visible. When I tried having sex with someone on the street where my clothes remained on there was a strap-on equipped, 3 different varieties worked so far. Tried loading an old character who had never been pregnant: same results, if all Courier clothes are removed, no strap-on, if clothes remain on the strapon equips.

 

I also tried turning off the Spunk setting "Stapons are cocks" or something like that, doesn't effect the results. It seems to be related to clothes stripping somehow. In my SCR settings for Player I have it set for T3 Cali because I have nude textures and meshes installed but it doesn't seem to make a difference if I use the BNB body bodysuit from SexoutNG.

 

Maybe some of my results will give someone an idea, because I'm sort of baffled why this is happening. None of the things I thought would make a difference seem to change it.

In the "Apparel Setting" if SOI Control, if you're wearing something an options appear under "Function" for "Leave On". I was under the impression that enabling that would leave that article of clothing on when performing a sexual act. If I was mistaken, could lead to a fix for the situation?

[t3589]

You shouldn't need to set them to leave on.

 

@ Sage: What version of SexoutNG are you using?  If it's not the beta, try it.  Also, the only reason you should stay dressed in public as a female PC, is if you have access through your clothes (short skirt/crotchless).  If you don't have either of those set, and you're still not undressing, then something else may be wrong.

Edited August 18, 2015 by t3589

[KRSG]

 

Gotcha.

 

Don't really know what happened. All was fine. Then we went from Lovers, to Partners, to Spouses all within 10 mins real time. Could be because I picked the option to Make Out after each and she replied with Maybe. The thing is, my options at the time were Make Out, Argue and I think Ignore. Only Make Out seemed like the correct response to those situations. We did just Upgrade our relationship status after all.

 

Would the response "Mhm" after picking "Flattery" and "Affable" imply I used those responses one too many times?

Actually it probably has more to do with that bit being incomplete. lol Currently, some things are set to 'easy/fast' for testing purposes. Later things will change. Don't forget. There's still NPC>NPC interactions to do. Which means you're currently experiencing the mod minus NPCs fighting/competing/blocking approaches/getting upset over who you talk to, etc. There's still public morals to do also.

 

If you're playing the mod currently, thinking this is how it's going to be, you're in for a real shock as we move forward.

 

Mhm was changed from Thanks. Nothing bad about getting it, it could mean you're out of those for the day, or not. Mind the highlighted dialog. I left it that way so you could have clues. So if it's dark text one time, and the next time you see it it's highlighted, that means it's a different option that you haven't chosen yet.

I did notice that for some of the choices I was given. Didn't always work out for me.

 

*Shakes his fist at Trust*

 

Will continue playing.

[Sagebrush61]

You shouldn't need to set them to leave on.

 

@ Sage: What version of SexoutNG are you using?  If it's not the beta, try it.

I'm using SexoutNG 95 beta 4 right now, downloaded beta 5 but haven't installed yet.  I'll try setting a strap-on to leave on as a temporary fix.  Could be embarrassing though, the people of New Vegas are too polite to mention that you have a strap-on sticking out of your clothes as you walk down the street.

Update: installed latest Beta 5, no change.  Checked strap-on and by default it has leave on [enabled].  Tried toggling it off in desperation, but that didn't help.  I'm going to try installing a different body mesh to see if it makes a difference, not sure why that would effect stripping in any way but I'm kind of out of ideas.

[t3589]

 

You shouldn't need to set them to leave on.

 

@ Sage: What version of SexoutNG are you using?  If it's not the beta, try it.

I'm using SexoutNG 95 beta 4 right now, downloaded beta 5 but haven't installed yet.  I'll try setting a strap-on to leave on as a temporary fix.  Could be embarrassing though, the people of New Vegas are too polite to mention that you have a strap-on sticking out of your clothes as you walk down the street.

Update: installed latest Beta 5, no change.  Checked strap-on and by default it has leave on [enabled].  Tried toggling it off in desperation, but that didn't help.  I'm going to try installing a different body mesh to see if it makes a difference, not sure why that would effect stripping in any way but I'm kind of out of ideas.

 

 

None of that should matter.  Is the PC wearing a short skirt or crotchless outfit?  If not, she should disrobe.  If she doesn't, something else is wrong.  You might check your undress settings in SexoutNG.

 

[Sagebrush61]

I just started a new game without PipboyRemover, Pregnancy or Damaged Outfit swapper so I could get a clean start.  Ran to the sexout store and bought a cheap strap-on and said "test" to poor Sunny Smiles.  It worked perfectly, my vaultsuit stripped off, strap-on went on fine.  So it's one of those 3 mods, and just disabling them in the middle of a playthrough doesn't help.  It seems likely that it's a conflict with the pregnancy bodies but when I get time I'll check them one by one to make sure.  It doesn't seem to effect the function of the strap-on because Spunk detects "sperm" whether the strap-on shows or not so it's just a cosmetic thing.

 

In reference to your post above I was wearing a Robco jumpsuit in public and it didn't strip off, but in private it did, didn't make any changes to default apparel settings so it shouldn't be crotchless or short skirt.

 

My undress settings are currently "Use Strip List" but in the past I have set it to "Always Strip" and PC's clothes remove in private.  In less private areas I usually have a short skirt outfit which doesn't strip, so it seems like outdoors but behind the tents clothes stay on, indoors they come off.

[t3589]

OK now we're getting somewhere.  I use Damage Outfit swapper and Pregnancy.   So I'm going to go with PipBoyRemover (I use readius instead).

[Sagebrush61]

So after testing mods separately and together I have found that it seems to be my SexoutNG Strip settings.  PipboyRemover, Pregnancy and Damaged Outfit Swapping all work if I set Strip settings to "Use Strip List".  Oddly enough if I set it to "Always Strip", it always strips, everything, including strap-ons (except in a semi-public place).  I thought I had tested those settings first, but apparently I didn't.  In the past I had problems with some animations hanging when I use strip list but it is working fine now.

 

Sorry to have taken so much time on such a simply solved problem.

[t3589]

So after testing mods separately and together I have found that it seems to be my SexoutNG Strip settings.  PipboyRemover, Pregnancy and Damaged Outfit Swapping all work if I set Strip settings to "Use Strip List".  Oddly enough if I set it to "Always Strip", it always strips, everything, including strap-ons (except in a semi-public place).  I thought I had tested those settings first, but apparently I didn't.  In the past I had problems with some animations hanging when I use strip list but it is working fine now.

 

Sorry to have taken so much time on such a simply solved problem.

 

No sweat.  As long as it's solved I'm happy.

 

[KRSG]

So [Walk], is iy just as simple as it sounds, or is there something more?

[t3589]

So [Walk], is iy just as simple as it sounds, or is there something more?

 

Yes it's just a placeholder for 'Let's go for a walk.'.  Also note that I think there's still a bug in Hangout/Walk, where after you talk to them they lose the package.  I can't remember if I fixed it yet or put it off as minor.

 

[BruceWayne]

I noticed them losing the hangout package and going to do their vanilla package, a couple of versions to go. Which was kind of bad, since doing that package meant, that they were going to a totally different location, which was quite far away.

[t3589]

I noticed them losing the hangout package and going to do their vanilla package, a couple of versions to go. Which was kind of bad, since doing that package meant, that they were going to a totally different location, which was quite far away.

 

Copy that. Ty.  I'll fix it for the next copy.

 

Something I forgot to mention.  The current copy has partial stalking settings in, so stay away from the hardcore setting ftm, unless you want to lose most of your inventory.  Classic and Fantasy should work as intended though.