BeeingFemale

[worik]

22 minutes ago, LatencyRemix said:

I have been deleting all those active scripts from my save file. 

You might consider to switch of the NPC tracking in BF.  ... e.g. MCM->GeneralSettings-> NPC menstrual cycle... etc...

 

It usually makes sense if you care for all those women in Skyrim, their babies, their daily mood and if they can conceive.

If you play BF just for your own female character you won't need that and can save yourself a lot of wasted Papyrus ressources.

[morpheousz]

9 hours ago, antediluvian said:

Yeah, exactly -- the old version required a third party patch and demonstrated this problem on my mod setup when I last tested it in August last year.  I stopped using both SLSO and the patch without public complaint, presuming that native support was needed.  I tried unsuccessfully to add in support myself, and then my hard drive failed and I stopped playing Skyrim for a few months.

 

Noticing that the newer BF patches added support, I decided to try again.  But the native patch also has the same problem, not using the third party patch.  Hence the concern that it was a mod incompatibility with some other mod on my own end, until someone else confirmed that they also have it.  That more or less rooted me into confirmatory-hypothesis-testing mode... but I'm still willing to accept an alternative explanation if I can find one. =)

 

1) Correct; without SLSO installed, but with BF installed, my game runs stable for several hours at a time.  I still get the occasional crash like anyone else with Skyrim does -- the occasional random crash around Dawnstar if Windcaller Temple hasn't been cleared, for instance -- but even with numerous script heavy mods, a demanding ENB, particle snow from Vivid Weathers, and a combined "gameplay PLUS sex" setup, I still tend to run quite smoothly on five-year-old hardware.

 

2) Mere presence causes the slowdown.  The takeaway is that installing SLSO somehow causes the game to bog down whenever an PC is affected by magic effects from other mods, rather than anything to do specifically with BF or SLSO itself.  However, BeeingFemale is the primary mod with frozen scripts that is identified in the increasingly lengthy stackdump.  In addition to the same reason you mention -- that SLSO shouldn't have any effect (it's purely event driven and has no cloak spells at all) -- this is the principal reason why I suspect that it's a virtual machine incompatibility with BeeingFemale.  Its SLSO compatibility is also purely event driven and has no hard dependency.  As BF is even theoretically a non-adult mod, it has only one part of the code that even cares whatsoever about anything that SLSO touches: the built-in SexLab addon.  Either coincidentally or causally, the stackdump spam all traces to the BF_AddonManager.  All stray magic effects are cleared out when the game is restarted, but it bogs down again eventually.

 

It's insidiously slow in the wilderness, taking at least an hour or two before it's noticeable, but Windhelm is one of the best places to test the problem as it'll degrade down to an obvious 20 FPS within less than 20~30 minutes.

 

3) I do!  I don't use any LOS or item-based naked actor detection -- I just use the simple configuration where any slot other than underwear is not naked.  I do usually run SLAR with a faster update and a lower Exposure Base Rate so that NPCs don't wind up completely missing exposures, and disable naked detection so that time rates for NPCs get properly updated even if there isn't anybody nude in the cell, so I can e.g., wait out an NPC becoming horny over time just by staying in the same cell.  This faster update rate does increase burden on Papyrus in extreme population areas, but has almost no effect in routine play, and works just fine on my sans-SLSO setup in the Windhelm Market where the plus-SLSO setup degrades.

 

4) I do run it on all NPCs by intention, since I play male and female characters and one of my previous ultra-promiscuous male characters had some "uh oh" moments.  Really makes me wish that I had the time to make a mod that has NPCs chasing down the player for child support. ;-)  Since BF usually only updates NPCs once every 60 seconds, that's been more or less completely transparent in effect.

 

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One other thing I didn't consider before... I wonder how well BF handles old configuration files.  I'm still using my old JSON file to load config settings.  I might try another couple throwaway characters without importing a profile, just setting everything manually, and see if that has any effect.

How long does it take before the slowdown happens? I started a new game, enabled BF for all NPCs and ran to whiterun and walked around with no difference from what I can tell. Ran to Dawnstar and then to Morthal, went to riften, etc... Even had sex in whiterun and got pregnant. After 3 hours of running to different cities, fighting in the wilderness, etc... no slowdown and no script dumps in the log. 

 

This is with BF 2.8.1 + Bane Master BF Patch V8 + SLSO 1.33, installed using NMM.

 

**Edit

Just checked through your load order, you have Wet and Cold. I had major major problems in general (not bf or slso related) when i had Wet and Cold installed, constant slowdowns, dumps, crashes, etc. As soon as I removed that mod, my skyrim install ran so much better. I tried playing with it's settings but nothing mattered, just having that mod caused me so many problems.

[BearWithASword]

Quick question, is there a limit to the number of kids and if not what can you do with them? Like, are they just treated as kids you've adopted or...? And what do NPCs do with their kids?

 

 

[Loller99]

Question: i am using this mod together with Skyrim Romance. My char gave birth to the kid from that mod, but now, after the birth, my pc's body won't reset to normal, even if i resetted mod through cheat menu.
I mean, it doesn't have the pregnancy belly anymore, but it's still not the way i setted it..

[Ragnarokj]

I'm having trouble getting the belly to have motion like the breasts. What are the specific things i have to do to get it to bounce and whatnot?

[Uncle64]

You need one body that can do it.

[Ragnarokj]

18 hours ago, Uncle64 said:

You need one body that can do it.

What does that mean?

[slygothmog]

13 hours ago, Ragnarokj said:

What does that mean?

He means you need a body with a skeleton that supports this, I use XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended with HDT Physics Extension, this works well for me, the belly will move a little when entering/leaving sneak mode or jumping, just enough to give a sense of realism.

[Ragnarokj]

Yeah, I use that too but get no motion.

[anolbee]

Is there a patch for Skyrim Romance?

[morpheousz]

12 hours ago, anolbee said:

Is there a patch for Skyrim Romance?

Skyrim Romance already uses Beeing Female if BF is present. When you have the convo about getting pregnant, SR triggers a BF pregnancy. Then SR has a convo for each trimester which manually advances BF's pregnancy and then the birth scene convo as well.

 

Can cause some weirdness depending on the settings you have in BF for how long pregnancy lasts as you could in theory get to the 3rd trimester without having any convos in SR, then have the convo in SR and SR will reset your pregnancy back to whatever pregnancy status convo you had (so in theory you could go from late 3rd trimester back to "Hey i just got pregnant").

[The_Virus]

Has anyone made a Bodyslide conversion for the equippable baby items?

[Ragnarokj]

On 3/31/2018 at 2:18 AM, slygothmog said:

He means you need a body with a skeleton that supports this, I use XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended with HDT Physics Extension, this works well for me, the belly will move a little when entering/leaving sneak mode or jumping, just enough to give a sense of realism.

One question however: What type of body do you use? I use Unified UNP HDT since it was recommended in another forum for this.

[milzschnitte]

Hi everyone,

 

a few weeks/month ago someone wrote me, that he converted everything to Skyrim SE except the BeeingFemale.dll file.

Can this person please contact me via PM? I've converted the BeeingFemale.dll to BeeingFemale64.dll

[Uncle64]

Nice

[slygothmog]

On 4/2/2018 at 9:06 AM, Ragnarokj said:

One question however: What type of body do you use? I use Unified UNP HDT since it was recommended in another forum for this.

I use the same body, it's probably the best of them all .... I suspect your maybe expecting the belly to jiggle like the boobs do?  That's not going to happen unless you physically alter the body mesh weight paint in that area, though I would not recommend it, the more stuff 'bounces' the more probability that it will distort.

 

You might try looking through the downloads section, some people have uploaded their own versions of the body with altered physics, like this one ...

https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/2476-all-in-one-hdt-animated-pussy/ or https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/2431-naturalistic-hdt-and-beast-hdt/

[Uncle64]

My self uses UUnp Special 4K works fine.

[slygothmog]

Will there be any more updates?  It's just iv'e noticed a few things since installing the V.8 patch.

I run a very stable game, CTD's are rare, I decided to start a new game and let NPC's become pregnant, normally I only let my character do the preg thing.

Anyways on two separate occasions my game crashed and of course I had no idea why, till later that is.  Six NPC's were pregnant, one by my character, then later I got messages saying two of them were pregnant again!

I checked them in game via the spell you can cast and saw they had lost their original pregnancy and were now pregnant by someone completely different.

The other four NPC's have kept their pregnancy's intact.... for now.

The two that lost their pregnancy had multi partner pregnancy, 4 children all by different fathers ( They attended a very naughty party courtesy of SLEN )

The V.7 patch ran great for me, I think I played the game for 60 hours (RL) and never had a hiccup, seems V.8 has introduced a bit of wonkyness.

[Bane Master]

3 hours ago, slygothmog said:

Will there be any more updates?  It's just iv'e noticed a few things since installing the V.8 patch.

I run a very stable game, CTD's are rare, I decided to start a new game and let NPC's become pregnant, normally I only let my character do the preg thing.

Anyways on two separate occasions my game crashed and of course I had no idea why, till later that is.  Six NPC's were pregnant, one by my character, then later I got messages saying two of them were pregnant again!

I checked them in game via the spell you can cast and saw they had lost their original pregnancy and were now pregnant by someone completely different.

The other four NPC's have kept their pregnancy's intact.... for now.

The two that lost their pregnancy had multi partner pregnancy, 4 children all by different fathers ( They attended a very naughty party courtesy of SLEN )

The V.7 patch ran great for me, I think I played the game for 60 hours (RL) and never had a hiccup, seems V.8 has introduced a bit of wonkyness.

I'm more than happy to fix things if I can - but sadly I can't try to fix CTDs or even wonkyness unless we can identify a cause in the code

 

[slygothmog]

34 minutes ago, Bane Master said:

I'm more than happy to fix things if I can - but sadly I can't try to fix CTDs or even wonkyness unless we can identify a cause in the code

 

I appreciate that, I also appreciate all the work you've done so far, I would like to return to the V.7 patch but somehow manged to delete it, I don't suppose you or anyone else still has a copy?  if so I'd be grateful if it could be uploaded for use, it did seem to be the more stable version.

[Deathmaw]

I seem to be having some weird Depth of Field effect caused by this mod? Anyway to disable it? It's causing me to feel sick lol.

*Edit* On second investigation it might not be caused by this mod, but removing this causes the skse cosave to be wiped.

[gullu]

On 29.3.2018 at 11:04 PM, Ragnarokj said:

I'm having trouble getting the belly to have motion like the breasts. What are the specific things i have to do to get it to bounce and whatnot?

You also need a hdt xml that has support for belly physics. There are some with and some without it.

 

I think I used to use the one that comes with this body: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/27122-working-vagina-hdt-collisions-hair-physics-now-with-belly-support/

But I felt like the physics looked kind of weird most of the time (when clothed) so i actually switched to another one without belly physics.

 

 

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ah, while i'm here already.. I remembered a little bug I wanted to report.  Maybe someone else has seen this as well.

 

If you play a male pc you are locked out of the impregnation options where as a female you can set things like what happens when you sleep (random impregnation by followers, all npcs around etc). However sometimes when my male pc wakes up next to a (female) npc, I get the message "You came inside ...". So the functionality actually doesn't seem to be disabled. 

 

Workaround can be using sexchange on pc and changing the settings then sexchange back.

 

Not sure if this was reported already somewhere... (and I must admit I didn't read all of the changelogs.. )

[Bane Master]

On 4/5/2018 at 9:45 AM, slygothmog said:

I appreciate that, I also appreciate all the work you've done so far, I would like to return to the V.7 patch but somehow manged to delete it, I don't suppose you or anyone else still has a copy?  if so I'd be grateful if it could be uploaded for use, it did seem to be the more stable version.

No problem  - here is the old version 

 

 

Beeing Female V2.8.1 Patch V7.7z

[slygothmog]

1 hour ago, Bane Master said:

No problem  - here is the old version 

 

 

Beeing Female V2.8.1 Patch V7.7z

Thank you so much!

 

I'm just having too many problems with V.8, I started a new game and it started turning off the addons that handle PMS and Prenancy buffs, got stuck with ovulation buffs and didn't know why till I checked the MCM and saw one addon had been disabled, I had them both enabled at the start.

 

Anyways thank you for this and I look forwards to any more updates you might have in the future.

[Uncle64]

One warning for all others that download the old patch, you cant remove the latest patch if you have that installed and install the old and play on the same save, you will trash your save, you will have the absolute need for starting one new game.

 

 

@slygothmogyou say that some of your addons did turn off when you did start one new game, have you downloaded Jcontainers and PapyrusUtil and have those 2 mods installed in your system?

Do you have Sleapy_souls plugin Bfap1.3 installed? If so you must load that plugin after Beeing Female addon plugin.

Beeing female can have serious hickups if the load and installation order is wrong.

My self always alters how many children any npc can have to 1, it seems to reduce papyrus stress, since when you have played some time the mod tracks female npc. Also change the default npc:s it tracks from 10 to 15, and change the update time to 40 seconds.

You can easy see how many females the mod tracks, have tracked 300 and it can at that point create stress on the papyrus, that is why you may need Jcontainers and PapyrusUtil.

 

How do your SKSE.ini file looks like?

 

 

@gullu I have noticed that feature for some time to. Think it did start to come whit 2.8. It seems to work but as you say but you cant change it.

My self have newer tried the solution you did use.

Do think I remember one old post by Milz about it for several month ago.

 

This is the body I use.

AIO3.3 and added this textures and meshes on top of it. They are merged in MO.

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/73512 Leyenda Skin uunp 4K.