BeeingFemale

MsOtaku · March 27, 2017

Hey, milzschnitte. Do you think that there could be a possibility to have the option in the MCM to tell the child/children to "Go Home." Especially since I like for my PC's husband to be her follower and don't want a bunch of kids following them. The whole having sex while they watch weirds me out.

It would be neat to go home and visit them, and they'd be excited to see their mom or dad or both and ask if they got a present (like adopted kids), send them on a radiant quest and then while my PC and her husband/follower are out, there could be a message informing me that my PC's child has either completed or failed the quest. Just some thoughts. As I've mentioned, I love this mod so much, but I want the kids to stay at home or do quests on their own and not follow mommy and daddy. Please? :blush: xoxo

allfather123 · March 27, 2017

Hello, I have a follower pregnant. 1st trimester, still 30 or so days to birth. She has 100% chance of giving birth as I've set the abortion levels to 0%.

But whenever I wait or fast travel the pregnancy just disappears. I did a quick google search and couldn't find any solved problem related to this one in this thread.

So I hoped it's a known issue with any fix. Glad if anyone can help, thanks.

EDIT: This is the first time I'm using this mod, so maybe we should consider that.

Are you referring to just the belly disappearing or the whole pregnancy? Does it show anything, if you use the showAllStats-spell on the follower?

The whole thing. It's like she's not pregnant anymore at all. The information tab in the MCM gets empty from there on.

*milzschnitte* · March 27, 2017

I've read the posts but I've got some problems right now. Please don't be mad when I can't answer your questions right now.

Yes, BF still got some problems with Estrus Chaurus.

Hey, milzschnitte. Do you think that there could be a possibility to have the option in the MCM to tell the child/children to "Go Home." Especially since I like for my PC's husband to be her follower and don't want a bunch of kids following them. The whole having sex while they watch weirds me out.

It would be neat to go home and visit them, and they'd be excited to see their mom or dad or both and ask if they got a present (like adopted kids), send them on a radiant quest and then while my PC and her husband/follower are out, there could be a message informing me that my PC's child has either completed or failed the quest. Just some thoughts. As I've mentioned, I love this mod so much, but I want the kids to stay at home or do quests on their own and not follow mommy and daddy. Please? xoxo

I wish I could do that. This was on of my targets with BeeingFemale 2.5 but it was way more complicated then I've thought. The "Go to my Spouse" should work and when the spouse is at the players house, the child will go there and stay for a while.

The problem is, that the children are high dynamicly. The adoption system from Hearthfires is static and limited to 2 children. Each command for the children got a "Child1" and a "Child2" Property.

But I'm not done with it yet. There are way more plans

MsOtaku · March 27, 2017

But I'm not done with it yet. There are way more plans

:heart: YAY! :heart:

xoxo

hamthe3rd · March 27, 2017

I particular I should report. When my kids are first born, they have my hair color, but then when I come back from having been away from that cell/area/home, their hair is normal colored/tan/brown.

aspirine2 · March 28, 2017

well that's confusing ..suddenly a (beeing female is loading) infinite screen .. whenever i open the mcm on a single game save..??

*milzschnitte* · March 28, 2017

Camera Script (beta)

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/75633-fwcamera-an-animated-camera-script-for-skyrim-beta/

egon123 · March 28, 2017

I've read the posts but I've got some problems right now. Please don't be mad when I can't answer your questions right now.

Yes, BF still got some problems with Estrus Chaurus.

Hey, milzschnitte. Do you think that there could be a possibility to have the option in the MCM to tell the child/children to "Go Home." Especially since I like for my PC's husband to be her follower and don't want a bunch of kids following them. The whole having sex while they watch weirds me out.

It would be neat to go home and visit them, and they'd be excited to see their mom or dad or both and ask if they got a present (like adopted kids), send them on a radiant quest and then while my PC and her husband/follower are out, there could be a message informing me that my PC's child has either completed or failed the quest. Just some thoughts. As I've mentioned, I love this mod so much, but I want the kids to stay at home or do quests on their own and not follow mommy and daddy. Please? xoxo

I wish I could do that. This was on of my targets with BeeingFemale 2.5 but it was way more complicated then I've thought. The "Go to my Spouse" should work and when the spouse is at the players house, the child will go there and stay for a while.

The problem is, that the children are high dynamicly. The adoption system from Hearthfires is static and limited to 2 children. Each command for the children got a "Child1" and a "Child2" Property.

But I'm not done with it yet. There are way more plans

Oh yeah, I remember that I tried to let BF Children use the Hearthfire routine. I simply ended with just add them via console to the adoption faction. Still, sometimes they got stuck in some AI package. And I never tried more then 2.

Since my knowledge in Skyrim modding grow since back then, maybe I'll take a look at it again.

MsOtaku · March 28, 2017

Oh yeah, I remember that I tried to let BF Children use the Hearthfire routine. I simply ended with just add them via console to the adoption faction. Still, sometimes they got stuck in some AI package. And I never tried more then 2.

Since my knowledge in Skyrim modding grow since back then, maybe I'll take a look at it again.

How on earth did you "add them via console to the adoption faction"? Would please you share the console commands?

egon123 · March 28, 2017

Oh yeah, I remember that I tried to let BF Children use the Hearthfire routine. I simply ended with just add them via console to the adoption faction. Still, sometimes they got stuck in some AI package. And I never tried more then 2.

Since my knowledge in Skyrim modding grow since back then, maybe I'll take a look at it again.

How on earth did you "add them via console to the adoption faction"? Would please you share the console commands?

It has been a while... let's see...

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A Dialogue with "I can adopt you" or whatever the english one is, should show up.

After that the Child stands stupid in place (like HF Childs) and soon appear in your house.

But like I said, it felt a bit buggy. I wasn't 100% satisfied.

Uncle64 · March 28, 2017

Egon123 I do remember that you talked about that, but it should be easy to add them to that faction whit one small plugin.

Have you seen this nice mod?

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/73844/? Improved Adoptions by soupdragon

Jinxtr · March 29, 2017

So is a pregnancy armor mod required for this mod? Like will there be clipping on normal modded armors and such? Same question for the skeleton. Is that required as well?

MsOtaku · March 29, 2017

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A Dialogue with "I can adopt you" or whatever the english one is, should show up.

After that the Child stands stupid in place (like HF Childs) and soon appear in your house.

But like I said, it felt a bit buggy. I wasn't 100% satisfied.

I'll give it a shot and see how it goes. Thanks!

Egon123 I do remember that you talked about that, but it should be easy to add them to that faction whit one small plugin.

Have you seen this nice mod?

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/73844/? Improved Adoptions by soupdragon

I took a look at that mod and got excited, but there's issues with moving to custom homes, I don't know if it works with Immersive Citizens, and the mod author said something about that mod not being compatible with any mods that give horses to followers and I use Convenient Horses.

So is a pregnancy armor mod required for this mod? Like will there be clipping on normal modded armors and such? Same question for the skeleton. Is that required as well?

It's not required, but you won't see the belly or boobs grow. You could download PSVAC or Remodeled Armor for CBBE Bodyslide HDT.

Uncle64 · March 29, 2017

MsOtaku

If you want to move to custom homes you must use This one to.

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/29249/? Hearthfire multiple adoptions - Now with custom home support for kids and spouse by TMPhoenix

There are instructions how to install them and have it to work.

My self use Immerse Horses for my self and FLP for my followers.

For pregnancy belly you can also use Rustic clothing for clothes.

And it is one must to have correct skeleton and Fnis. It will not work if you dont have those.

MoonSpot · March 29, 2017

yeah ...my pc never enter the first phase of pregnancy ...it repeats the ovulation cycle ....i manually install the mod ..how may i remove the past scripts from my steam / data files...??

The "Lore friendly" toggle could be a cause if the participants are different races. Additionally, vampires also have a prego-able on/off toggle.

egon123 · March 29, 2017

Egon123 I do remember that you talked about that, but it should be easy to add them to that faction whit one small plugin.

Have you seen this nice mod?

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/73844/? Improved Adoptions by soupdragon

Basically yes. But it wasn't so "clean" as I hoped it would be.

It's been a while, but iirc the faction has different ranks. Starting from 1 (adoptable) to x (fully adopted). Between it was stuff like "You triggert the adoption but the kid didn't arrived at home, yet". Also giving them the last faction rank didn't work iirc. So you had to you trough the "I want to adopt you" dialogue for your own children.

But after that, and they moved in, they came up to me and used the Hearthfire Dialogue. Oh and I believe lost the option to take them as followers so I had them add to the follower faction again.

Ah! And as I set Proudspire as home they didn't go out. Just sandbox inside. And if, they got stuck in some corner

Like I said, it worked somehow, but not perfect.

I was thinking. A plugin would make Hearthfire a requirement. Clone the Ai packages for BF-Kids would maybe be possible. mmhmm.. but then again, you wouldn't have voice... Okay you need Hearthfire.

Btw: That mod looks very (!) interesting. I definitely give it a shot.

fsabsky1 · March 30, 2017

yeah ...my pc never enter the first phase of pregnancy ...it repeats the ovulation cycle ....i manually install the mod ..how may i remove the past scripts from my steam / data files...??

The "Lore friendly" toggle could be a cause if the participants are different races. Additionally, vampires also have a prego-able on/off toggle.

One other thing I've noticed that might be causing this: sometimes after using contraception, the contraceptive value doesn't drop back to zero. I had a character stuck with 70 contraception permanently -had to do a full reset of BF to clear it. So if your character ever used contraceptive fluid, you might have a stuck value. Go into debugging mode and the Debugging/Cheating menu, and look for contraception in the parameters list. If you haven't used contraceptive in a long time but you still have contraception value, this is probably your problem. I don't know of any way to fix it besides a reset. :/

Uncle64 · March 30, 2017

Egon123 yea you need heartfire for it.

Uncle64 · March 30, 2017

Dear Milz.

There are some things you must fix. And fast.

When you starts to have many npc in the game, like in my game 230 registered in Beeing Female. It actually starts to bloat the save.

When you tries to refresh your npc you can sit and watch for up to 3-4 ingame hours the progress.

You cant save, you cant change cell, your fps drops to 10 because Beeing Female struggles whit this.

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Dumping stack 16576511:
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Frame count: 3 (Page count: 2)
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] State: Waiting on other stack for return (Freeze state: Freezing)
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Type: Normal
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Return register: None
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Has stack callback: No
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Stack trace:
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [bFA_Reminder (B4006E85)].BFA_Reminder.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAddOn_Misc.psc" Line ?
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] IP: 0
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akWoman]: [Actor < (000199B4)>]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akCaster]: [Actor < (00000014)>]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect < (490389EF)>]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [bF_AddOnManager (1E001829)].fwaddonmanager.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAddOnManager.psc" Line 1886
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] IP: 230 Instruction: 10 Line: 1886
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akWoman]: [Actor < (000199B4)>]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akCaster]: [Actor < (00000014)>]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect < (490389EF)>]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp438]: True
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] : 1
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp439]: [bFA_Reminder ]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp440]: [bFA_Reminder ]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp441]: True
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp442]: 1
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::NoneVar]: None
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [Active effect 8 on (000199B4)].FWAbilityBeeingFemale.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAbilityBeeingFemale.psc" Line 1592
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] IP: 51 Instruction: 1 Line: 1592
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akCaster]: [Actor < (00000014)>]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect < (490389EF)>]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp450]: [fwaddonmanager ]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::NoneVar]: None
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Dumping stack 16583837:
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Frame count: 1 (Page count: 1)
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] State: Waiting on other stack for call (Freeze state: Freezing)
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Type: Normal
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Return register: [fwaddonmanager ]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Has stack callback: No
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Stack trace:
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [Active effect 10 on (000A2C94)].FWAbilityBeeingFemale.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAbilityBeeingFemale.psc" Line 1592
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] IP: 51 Instruction: 1 Line: 1592
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akCaster]: [Actor < (00000014)>]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect < (490389EF)>]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp450]: [fwaddonmanager ]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::NoneVar]: None
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Dumping stack 16583850:
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Frame count: 3 (Page count: 2)
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] State: Waiting on other stack for return (Freeze state: Freezing)
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Type: Normal
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Return register: None
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Has stack callback: No
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Stack trace:
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [bFA_VisualEffects (B4006E75)].BFA_VisualEffects.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAddOn_Misc.psc" Line ?
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] IP: 0
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akWoman]: [WIDeadBodyCleanupScript < (0001B092)>]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akCaster]: [Actor < (00000014)>]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect < (64003DE7)>]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [bF_AddOnManager (1E001829)].fwaddonmanager.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAddOnManager.psc" Line 1886
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] IP: 230 Instruction: 10 Line: 1886
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akWoman]: [WIDeadBodyCleanupScript < (0001B092)>]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akCaster]: [Actor < (00000014)>]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect < (64003DE7)>]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp438]: True
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] : 0
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp439]: [bFA_VisualEffects ]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp440]: [bFA_VisualEffects ]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp441]: True
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp442]: 0
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::NoneVar]: None
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [Active effect 10 on (0001B092)].FWAbilityBeeingFemale.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAbilityBeeingFemale.psc" Line 1592
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] IP: 51 Instruction: 1 Line: 1592
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akCaster]: [Actor < (00000014)>]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect < (64003DE7)>]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp450]: [fwaddonmanager ]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::NoneVar]: None
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] VM is thawing...
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:07AM] VM is freezing...
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:07AM] VM is frozen

You will notice when B-F starting to have issues, it comes when you have made one hard save. Load up that save again, and only to find that B-F have forgot all settings. ??

Then you need to first restart B-F, then refresh your addons, and after that you need to refresh your npc. And that can take up to 30-40 in real minutes.

I actually killed the game when B-F did try to refresh one NPC and it have struggled whit it for 10 minutes.

This is what PdTWrapped did report on the save.

Awaiting data... It can take a while for a data to be fully loaded (that depends on your savegame, sometimes it can take longer than 30 minutes). The only purpose of this data is to keep you informed about the state of your savegame. You can apply ANY edit operation at ANY time without waiting for the details...

Please, remember - every case is individual. In most cases all problems can be solved via "Remove Unattached Instances". However, some mods can use uncommon techniques based on such type of scripts. So, if you know exactly what scripts cause problems, it's always better to prepare filter for better accuracy. It's recommended to investigate the reasons first before performing any actions (don't forget that you can examine the actual Script Data in readable format).

Analysis...

Warning: There are 2583#Section: Active Threads active threads inside the savegame. It's a lot. This can cause performance issues and savegame bloat. If the Thread count will keep growing in a quiet location, then consider removing related mods or using the corresponding cleaning technique.

2583 threads are associated with script instances. Consider using "Remove Unattached Instances". No luck with removing instances? Try "Terminate Active Threads".

Threads count is growing. Difference is 2583

408 threads ( OnMagicEffectApply) were created by one single instance with ID 437339264#Self: 437339264, which belongs to class FWAbilityBeeingFemale#Class: FWAbilityBeeingFemale from BeeingFemale#Resource: BeeingFemale. This looks suspicious. Please, ensure that these threads are not stuck. You can play a bit and check if these threads are finished or not.
Note: the engine was executing the following instruction at the moment of writing the savegame (is this instruction stuck or it just needs some time to finish?):
I1: call OnMagicEffectApply, temp450, NoneVar, ActorRefvar, akCaster, akEffect;

402 threads ( OnMagicEffectApply) were created by one single instance with ID 427267136#Self: 427267136, which belongs to class FWAbilityBeeingFemale#Class: FWAbilityBeeingFemale from BeeingFemale#Resource: BeeingFemale. This looks suspicious. Please, ensure that these threads are not stuck. You can play a bit and check if these threads are finished or not.
Note: the engine was executing the following instruction at the moment of writing the savegame (is this instruction stuck or it just needs some time to finish?):
I1: call OnMagicEffectApply, temp450, NoneVar, ActorRefvar, akCaster, akEffect;

433 threads ( OnMagicEffectApply) were created by one single instance with ID 520227888#Self: 520227888, which belongs to class FWAbilityBeeingFemale#Class: FWAbilityBeeingFemale from BeeingFemale#Resource: BeeingFemale. This looks suspicious. Please, ensure that these threads are not stuck. You can play a bit and check if these threads are finished or not.
Note: the engine was executing the following instruction at the moment of writing the savegame (is this instruction stuck or it just needs some time to finish?):
I1: call OnMagicEffectApply, temp450, NoneVar, ActorRefvar, akCaster, akEffect;

405 threads ( OnMagicEffectApply) were created by one single instance with ID 457823824#Self: 457823824, which belongs to class FWAbilityBeeingFemale#Class: FWAbilityBeeingFemale from BeeingFemale#Resource: BeeingFemale. This looks suspicious. Please, ensure that these threads are not stuck. You can play a bit and check if these threads are finished or not.
Note: the engine was executing the following instruction at the moment of writing the savegame (is this instruction stuck or it just needs some time to finish?):
I1: call OnMagicEffectApply, temp450, NoneVar, ActorRefvar, akCaster, akEffect;

318 threads ( OnMagicEffectApply) were created by one single instance with ID 415495520#Self: 415495520, which belongs to class FWAbilityBeeingFemale#Class: FWAbilityBeeingFemale from BeeingFemale#Resource: BeeingFemale. This looks suspicious. Please, ensure that these threads are not stuck. You can play a bit and check if these threads are finished or not.
Note: the engine was executing the following instruction at the moment of writing the savegame (is this instruction stuck or it just needs some time to finish?):
I1: call OnMagicEffectApply, temp450, NoneVar, ActorRefvar, akCaster, akEffect;

375 threads ( OnMagicEffectApply) were created by one single instance with ID 396579168#Self: 396579168, which belongs to class FWAbilityBeeingFemale#Class: FWAbilityBeeingFemale from BeeingFemale#Resource: BeeingFemale. This looks suspicious. Please, ensure that these threads are not stuck. You can play a bit and check if these threads are finished or not.
Note: the engine was executing the following instruction at the moment of writing the savegame (is this instruction stuck or it just needs some time to finish?):
I1: call OnMagicEffectApply, temp450, NoneVar, ActorRefvar, akCaster, akEffect;

2 threads ( GetPillDuration) were created by one single instance with ID 312041024#Self: 312041024, which belongs to class fwsystem#Class: fwsystem from BeeingFemale#Resource: BeeingFemale. This looks suspicious. Please, ensure that these threads are not stuck. You can play a bit and check if these threads are finished or not.
Note: the engine was executing the following instruction at the moment of writing the savegame (is this instruction stuck or it just needs some time to finish?):
I0: call getActorContraceptionDuration, Managervar, temp312, A;

7 threads ( UpdateParentFaction) were created by one single instance with ID 2253112304#Self: 2253112304, which belongs to class fwcontroller#Class: fwcontroller from BeeingFemale#Resource: BeeingFemale. This looks suspicious. Please, ensure that these threads are not stuck. You can play a bit and check if these threads are finished or not.
Note: the engine was executing the following instruction at the moment of writing the savegame (is this instruction stuck or it just needs some time to finish?):
I0: call Trace, Systemvar, NoneVar, FWControllerUpdateParentFaction, ParentActor;

15 threads ( getStateDuration) were created by one single instance with ID 312041024#Self: 312041024, which belongs to class fwsystem#Class: fwsystem from BeeingFemale#Resource: BeeingFemale. This looks suspicious. Please, ensure that these threads are not stuck. You can play a bit and check if these threads are finished or not.
Note: the engine was executing the following instruction at the moment of writing the savegame (is this instruction stuck or it just needs some time to finish?):
I3: call getActorDurationScale, Managervar, temp327, Step, Woman;

2 threads ( OnObjectUnequipped) were created by one single instance with ID 2339929728#Self: 2339929728, which belongs to class XPMSEWeaponStyleScaleEffect#Class: XPMSEWeaponStyleScaleEffect from XPMSE#Resource: XPMSE. This looks suspicious. Please, ensure that these threads are not stuck. You can play a bit and check if these threads are finished or not.
Note: the engine was executing the following instruction at the moment of writing the savegame (is this instruction stuck or it just needs some time to finish?):
I2: call Restyle, self, NoneVar, 0;

Scripts from the following resources still have active threads. It's NOT recommended to update these resources until active scripts finish their work
[Resource : Threads count]
BeeingFemale#Resource: BeeingFemale: 2366
SkyUI#Resource: SkyUI: 1
XPMSE#Resource: XPMSE: 3
CreatureFramework#Resource: CreatureFramework: 1
AMatterOfTime#Resource: AMatterOfTime: 1

The most "Heavy" non-basic classes. There are a lot of instances of these classes in the game, in some cases this can lead to performance drop. Some scripts are designed and expected to have a lot of instances. However, if they don't suppose to hold any long term data, such design is not optimal at all. If you experience a performance issues, try temporary removing the corresponding resources.
[script class: Current instances count]
(Skyrim#Resource: Skyrim) mineorefurniturescript#Class: mineorefurniturescript:1972
(Skyrim#Resource: Skyrim) critterSpawn01#Class: critterSpawn01:1655
(UndergroundBathhouse#Resource: UndergroundBathhouse) MineOreScript#Class: MineOreScript:1528
(Skyrim#Resource: Skyrim) critterspawn#Class: critterspawn:1519
(Unofficial Skyrim City Patch Modified#Resource: Unofficial Skyrim City Patch Modified) WeaponRackTriggerSCRIPT#Class: WeaponRackTriggerSCRIPT:1377
(Update#Resource: Update) masterambushscript#Class: masterambushscript:1363
(Update#Resource: Update) WeaponRackActivateScript#Class: WeaponRackActivateScript:1294
(Skyrim#Resource: Skyrim) CWMapFlagScript#Class: CWMapFlagScript:1223
(Skyrim#Resource: Skyrim) default2StateActivator#Class: default2StateActivator:1153
(ZaZAnimationPack#Resource: ZaZAnimationPack) sslBaseAnimation#Class: sslBaseAnimation:1133
(Update#Resource: Update) defaultDisableHavokOnLoad#Class: defaultDisableHavokOnLoad:1019
(RealShelter#Resource: RealShelter) GetShelterTBScript#Class: GetShelterTBScript:1013

The following classes were mentioned in the log just before the game exited. If any crashes occured and if the crash time equals the time of the last line in the Papyrus log, then it's most likely related to those classes
If true, consider removing instances/references or terminating threads (don't forget to specify the filter)
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [bFA_VisualEffects#Class: BFA_VisualEffects (B4006E75)].BFA_VisualEffects#Class: BFA_VisualEffects.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAddOn_Misc.psc" Line ?
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akWoman]: [WIDeadBodyCleanupScript#Class: WIDeadBodyCleanupScript < (0001B092)>]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akCaster]: [Actor#Class: Actor < (00000014)>]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect#Class: MagicEffect < (64003DE7)>]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [bF_AddOnManager (1E001829)].fwaddonmanager#Class: fwaddonmanager.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAddOnManager.psc" Line 1886
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akWoman]: [WIDeadBodyCleanupScript#Class: WIDeadBodyCleanupScript < (0001B092)>]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akCaster]: [Actor#Class: Actor < (00000014)>]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect#Class: MagicEffect < (64003DE7)>]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp439]: [bFA_VisualEffects#Class: BFA_VisualEffects ]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp440]: [bFA_VisualEffects#Class: BFA_VisualEffects ]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [Active effect 10 on (0001B092)].FWAbilityBeeingFemale#Class: FWAbilityBeeingFemale.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAbilityBeeingFemale#Class: FWAbilityBeeingFemale.psc" Line 1592
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akCaster]: [Actor#Class: Actor < (00000014)>]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect#Class: MagicEffect < (64003DE7)>]
[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp450]: [fwaddonmanager#Class: fwaddonmanager ]

Analysis complete

#class:>#class:>

Edited March 30, 2017 by Uncle64

egon123 · March 30, 2017

Egon123 yea you need heartfire for it.

Yeah, I came to the same conclusion.

I was wondering if you could just copy adoption system so that bf-children won't run the original hearthfire system but in it's own. But since you would also need to include the voice files, it would go to far.

I've taken a quick look in it yesterday. It seems more complex then I thought.

Still, I hadn't the scripts unpacked to follow it more clearly.

*milzschnitte* · March 30, 2017

Dear Milz.

There are some things you must fix. And fast.

When you starts to have many npc in the game, like in my game 230 registered in Beeing Female. It actually starts to bloat the save.

When you tries to refresh your npc you can sit and watch for up to 3-4 ingame hours the progress.

You cant save, you cant change cell, your fps drops to 10 because Beeing Female struggles whit this.

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Dumping stack 16576511:

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Frame count: 3 (Page count: 2)

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] State: Waiting on other stack for return (Freeze state: Freezing)

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Type: Normal

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Return register: None

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Has stack callback: No

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Stack trace:

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [bFA_Reminder (B4006E85)].BFA_Reminder.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAddOn_Misc.psc" Line ?

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] IP: 0

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akWoman]: [Actor < (000199B4)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akCaster]: [Actor < (00000014)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect < (490389EF)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [bF_AddOnManager (1E001829)].fwaddonmanager.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAddOnManager.psc" Line 1886

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] IP: 230 Instruction: 10 Line: 1886

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akWoman]: [Actor < (000199B4)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akCaster]: [Actor < (00000014)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect < (490389EF)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp438]: True

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] : 1

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp439]: [bFA_Reminder ]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp440]: [bFA_Reminder ]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp441]: True

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp442]: 1

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::NoneVar]: None

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [Active effect 8 on (000199B4)].FWAbilityBeeingFemale.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAbilityBeeingFemale.psc" Line 1592

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] IP: 51 Instruction: 1 Line: 1592

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akCaster]: [Actor < (00000014)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect < (490389EF)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp450]: [fwaddonmanager ]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::NoneVar]: None

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Dumping stack 16583837:

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Frame count: 1 (Page count: 1)

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] State: Waiting on other stack for call (Freeze state: Freezing)

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Type: Normal

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Return register: [fwaddonmanager ]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Has stack callback: No

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Stack trace:

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [Active effect 10 on (000A2C94)].FWAbilityBeeingFemale.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAbilityBeeingFemale.psc" Line 1592

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] IP: 51 Instruction: 1 Line: 1592

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akCaster]: [Actor < (00000014)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect < (490389EF)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp450]: [fwaddonmanager ]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::NoneVar]: None

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Dumping stack 16583850:

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Frame count: 3 (Page count: 2)

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] State: Waiting on other stack for return (Freeze state: Freezing)

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Type: Normal

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Return register: None

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Has stack callback: No

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Stack trace:

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [bFA_VisualEffects (B4006E75)].BFA_VisualEffects.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAddOn_Misc.psc" Line ?

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] IP: 0

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akWoman]: [WIDeadBodyCleanupScript < (0001B092)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akCaster]: [Actor < (00000014)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect < (64003DE7)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [bF_AddOnManager (1E001829)].fwaddonmanager.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAddOnManager.psc" Line 1886

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] IP: 230 Instruction: 10 Line: 1886

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akWoman]: [WIDeadBodyCleanupScript < (0001B092)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akCaster]: [Actor < (00000014)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect < (64003DE7)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp438]: True

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] : 0

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp439]: [bFA_VisualEffects ]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp440]: [bFA_VisualEffects ]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp441]: True

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp442]: 0

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::NoneVar]: None

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [Active effect 10 on (0001B092)].FWAbilityBeeingFemale.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAbilityBeeingFemale.psc" Line 1592

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] IP: 51 Instruction: 1 Line: 1592

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akCaster]: [Actor < (00000014)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect < (64003DE7)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp450]: [fwaddonmanager ]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::NoneVar]: None

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] VM is thawing...

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:07AM] VM is freezing...

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:07AM] VM is frozen

You will notice when B-F starting to have issues, it comes when you have made one hard save. Load up that save again, and only to find that B-F have forgot all settings. ??

Then you need to first restart B-F, then refresh your addons, and after that you need to refresh your npc. And that can take up to 30-40 in real minutes.

I actually killed the game when B-F did try to refresh one NPC and it have struggled whit it for 10 minutes.

This is what PdTWrapped did report on the save.

Awaiting data... It can take a while for a data to be fully loaded (that depends on your savegame, sometimes it can take longer than 30 minutes). The only purpose of this data is to keep you informed about the state of your savegame. You can apply ANY edit operation at ANY time without waiting for the details...

Please, remember - every case is individual. In most cases all problems can be solved via "Remove Unattached Instances". However, some mods can use uncommon techniques based on such type of scripts. So, if you know exactly what scripts cause problems, it's always better to prepare filter for better accuracy. It's recommended to investigate the reasons first before performing any actions (don't forget that you can examine the actual Script Data in readable format).

Analysis...

Warning: There are 2583#Section: Active Threads active threads inside the savegame. It's a lot. This can cause performance issues and savegame bloat. If the Thread count will keep growing in a quiet location, then consider removing related mods or using the corresponding cleaning technique.

2583 threads are associated with script instances. Consider using "Remove Unattached Instances". No luck with removing instances? Try "Terminate Active Threads".

Threads count is growing. Difference is 2583

408 threads ( OnMagicEffectApply) were created by one single instance with ID 437339264#Self: 437339264, which belongs to class FWAbilityBeeingFemale#Class: FWAbilityBeeingFemale from BeeingFemale#Resource: BeeingFemale. This looks suspicious. Please, ensure that these threads are not stuck. You can play a bit and check if these threads are finished or not.

Note: the engine was executing the following instruction at the moment of writing the savegame (is this instruction stuck or it just needs some time to finish?):

I1: call OnMagicEffectApply, temp450, NoneVar, ActorRefvar, akCaster, akEffect;

402 threads ( OnMagicEffectApply) were created by one single instance with ID 427267136#Self: 427267136, which belongs to class FWAbilityBeeingFemale#Class: FWAbilityBeeingFemale from BeeingFemale#Resource: BeeingFemale. This looks suspicious. Please, ensure that these threads are not stuck. You can play a bit and check if these threads are finished or not.

Note: the engine was executing the following instruction at the moment of writing the savegame (is this instruction stuck or it just needs some time to finish?):

I1: call OnMagicEffectApply, temp450, NoneVar, ActorRefvar, akCaster, akEffect;

433 threads ( OnMagicEffectApply) were created by one single instance with ID 520227888#Self: 520227888, which belongs to class FWAbilityBeeingFemale#Class: FWAbilityBeeingFemale from BeeingFemale#Resource: BeeingFemale. This looks suspicious. Please, ensure that these threads are not stuck. You can play a bit and check if these threads are finished or not.

Note: the engine was executing the following instruction at the moment of writing the savegame (is this instruction stuck or it just needs some time to finish?):

I1: call OnMagicEffectApply, temp450, NoneVar, ActorRefvar, akCaster, akEffect;

405 threads ( OnMagicEffectApply) were created by one single instance with ID 457823824#Self: 457823824, which belongs to class FWAbilityBeeingFemale#Class: FWAbilityBeeingFemale from BeeingFemale#Resource: BeeingFemale. This looks suspicious. Please, ensure that these threads are not stuck. You can play a bit and check if these threads are finished or not.

Note: the engine was executing the following instruction at the moment of writing the savegame (is this instruction stuck or it just needs some time to finish?):

I1: call OnMagicEffectApply, temp450, NoneVar, ActorRefvar, akCaster, akEffect;

318 threads ( OnMagicEffectApply) were created by one single instance with ID 415495520#Self: 415495520, which belongs to class FWAbilityBeeingFemale#Class: FWAbilityBeeingFemale from BeeingFemale#Resource: BeeingFemale. This looks suspicious. Please, ensure that these threads are not stuck. You can play a bit and check if these threads are finished or not.

Note: the engine was executing the following instruction at the moment of writing the savegame (is this instruction stuck or it just needs some time to finish?):

I1: call OnMagicEffectApply, temp450, NoneVar, ActorRefvar, akCaster, akEffect;

375 threads ( OnMagicEffectApply) were created by one single instance with ID 396579168#Self: 396579168, which belongs to class FWAbilityBeeingFemale#Class: FWAbilityBeeingFemale from BeeingFemale#Resource: BeeingFemale. This looks suspicious. Please, ensure that these threads are not stuck. You can play a bit and check if these threads are finished or not.

Note: the engine was executing the following instruction at the moment of writing the savegame (is this instruction stuck or it just needs some time to finish?):

I1: call OnMagicEffectApply, temp450, NoneVar, ActorRefvar, akCaster, akEffect;

2 threads ( GetPillDuration) were created by one single instance with ID 312041024#Self: 312041024, which belongs to class fwsystem#Class: fwsystem from BeeingFemale#Resource: BeeingFemale. This looks suspicious. Please, ensure that these threads are not stuck. You can play a bit and check if these threads are finished or not.

Note: the engine was executing the following instruction at the moment of writing the savegame (is this instruction stuck or it just needs some time to finish?):

I0: call getActorContraceptionDuration, Managervar, temp312, A;

7 threads ( UpdateParentFaction) were created by one single instance with ID 2253112304#Self: 2253112304, which belongs to class fwcontroller#Class: fwcontroller from BeeingFemale#Resource: BeeingFemale. This looks suspicious. Please, ensure that these threads are not stuck. You can play a bit and check if these threads are finished or not.

Note: the engine was executing the following instruction at the moment of writing the savegame (is this instruction stuck or it just needs some time to finish?):

I0: call Trace, Systemvar, NoneVar, FWControllerUpdateParentFaction, ParentActor;

15 threads ( getStateDuration) were created by one single instance with ID 312041024#Self: 312041024, which belongs to class fwsystem#Class: fwsystem from BeeingFemale#Resource: BeeingFemale. This looks suspicious. Please, ensure that these threads are not stuck. You can play a bit and check if these threads are finished or not.

Note: the engine was executing the following instruction at the moment of writing the savegame (is this instruction stuck or it just needs some time to finish?):

I3: call getActorDurationScale, Managervar, temp327, Step, Woman;

2 threads ( OnObjectUnequipped) were created by one single instance with ID 2339929728#Self: 2339929728, which belongs to class XPMSEWeaponStyleScaleEffect#Class: XPMSEWeaponStyleScaleEffect from XPMSE#Resource: XPMSE. This looks suspicious. Please, ensure that these threads are not stuck. You can play a bit and check if these threads are finished or not.

Note: the engine was executing the following instruction at the moment of writing the savegame (is this instruction stuck or it just needs some time to finish?):

I2: call Restyle, self, NoneVar, 0;

Scripts from the following resources still have active threads. It's NOT recommended to update these resources until active scripts finish their work

[Resource : Threads count]

BeeingFemale#Resource: BeeingFemale: 2366

SkyUI#Resource: SkyUI: 1

XPMSE#Resource: XPMSE: 3

CreatureFramework#Resource: CreatureFramework: 1

AMatterOfTime#Resource: AMatterOfTime: 1

The most "Heavy" non-basic classes. There are a lot of instances of these classes in the game, in some cases this can lead to performance drop. Some scripts are designed and expected to have a lot of instances. However, if they don't suppose to hold any long term data, such design is not optimal at all. If you experience a performance issues, try temporary removing the corresponding resources.

[script class: Current instances count]

(Skyrim#Resource: Skyrim) mineorefurniturescript#Class: mineorefurniturescript:1972

(Skyrim#Resource: Skyrim) critterSpawn01#Class: critterSpawn01:1655

(UndergroundBathhouse#Resource: UndergroundBathhouse) MineOreScript#Class: MineOreScript:1528

(Skyrim#Resource: Skyrim) critterspawn#Class: critterspawn:1519

(Unofficial Skyrim City Patch Modified#Resource: Unofficial Skyrim City Patch Modified) WeaponRackTriggerSCRIPT#Class: WeaponRackTriggerSCRIPT:1377

(Update#Resource: Update) masterambushscript#Class: masterambushscript:1363

(Update#Resource: Update) WeaponRackActivateScript#Class: WeaponRackActivateScript:1294

(Skyrim#Resource: Skyrim) CWMapFlagScript#Class: CWMapFlagScript:1223

(Skyrim#Resource: Skyrim) default2StateActivator#Class: default2StateActivator:1153

(ZaZAnimationPack#Resource: ZaZAnimationPack) sslBaseAnimation#Class: sslBaseAnimation:1133

(Update#Resource: Update) defaultDisableHavokOnLoad#Class: defaultDisableHavokOnLoad:1019

(RealShelter#Resource: RealShelter) GetShelterTBScript#Class: GetShelterTBScript:1013

The following classes were mentioned in the log just before the game exited. If any crashes occured and if the crash time equals the time of the last line in the Papyrus log, then it's most likely related to those classes

If true, consider removing instances/references or terminating threads (don't forget to specify the filter)

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [bFA_VisualEffects#Class: BFA_VisualEffects (B4006E75)].BFA_VisualEffects#Class: BFA_VisualEffects.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAddOn_Misc.psc" Line ?

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akWoman]: [WIDeadBodyCleanupScript#Class: WIDeadBodyCleanupScript < (0001B092)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akCaster]: [Actor#Class: Actor < (00000014)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect#Class: MagicEffect < (64003DE7)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [bF_AddOnManager (1E001829)].fwaddonmanager#Class: fwaddonmanager.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAddOnManager.psc" Line 1886

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akWoman]: [WIDeadBodyCleanupScript#Class: WIDeadBodyCleanupScript < (0001B092)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akCaster]: [Actor#Class: Actor < (00000014)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect#Class: MagicEffect < (64003DE7)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp439]: [bFA_VisualEffects#Class: BFA_VisualEffects ]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp440]: [bFA_VisualEffects#Class: BFA_VisualEffects ]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [Active effect 10 on (0001B092)].FWAbilityBeeingFemale#Class: FWAbilityBeeingFemale.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAbilityBeeingFemale#Class: FWAbilityBeeingFemale.psc" Line 1592

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akCaster]: [Actor#Class: Actor < (00000014)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect#Class: MagicEffect < (64003DE7)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp450]: [fwaddonmanager#Class: fwaddonmanager ]

Analysis complete

#class:>#class:>

That's what I was already afraid of. The massive threads come from RegisterForSingleUpdate I think. They are dead but not terminated.

Don't worry, I will switch back to RegisterForUpdate

Uncle64 · March 31, 2017

Dear Milz.

There are some things you must fix. And fast.

When you starts to have many npc in the game, like in my game 230 registered in Beeing Female. It actually starts to bloat the save.

When you tries to refresh your npc you can sit and watch for up to 3-4 ingame hours the progress.

You cant save, you cant change cell, your fps drops to 10 because Beeing Female struggles whit this.

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Dumping stack 16576511:

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Frame count: 3 (Page count: 2)

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] State: Waiting on other stack for return (Freeze state: Freezing)

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Type: Normal

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Return register: None

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Has stack callback: No

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Stack trace:

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [bFA_Reminder (B4006E85)].BFA_Reminder.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAddOn_Misc.psc" Line ?

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] IP: 0

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akWoman]: [Actor < (000199B4)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akCaster]: [Actor < (00000014)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect < (490389EF)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [bF_AddOnManager (1E001829)].fwaddonmanager.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAddOnManager.psc" Line 1886

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] IP: 230 Instruction: 10 Line: 1886

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akWoman]: [Actor < (000199B4)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akCaster]: [Actor < (00000014)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect < (490389EF)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp438]: True

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] : 1

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp439]: [bFA_Reminder ]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp440]: [bFA_Reminder ]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp441]: True

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp442]: 1

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::NoneVar]: None

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [Active effect 8 on (000199B4)].FWAbilityBeeingFemale.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAbilityBeeingFemale.psc" Line 1592

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] IP: 51 Instruction: 1 Line: 1592

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akCaster]: [Actor < (00000014)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect < (490389EF)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp450]: [fwaddonmanager ]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::NoneVar]: None

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Dumping stack 16583837:

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Frame count: 1 (Page count: 1)

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] State: Waiting on other stack for call (Freeze state: Freezing)

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Type: Normal

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Return register: [fwaddonmanager ]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Has stack callback: No

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Stack trace:

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [Active effect 10 on (000A2C94)].FWAbilityBeeingFemale.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAbilityBeeingFemale.psc" Line 1592

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] IP: 51 Instruction: 1 Line: 1592

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akCaster]: [Actor < (00000014)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect < (490389EF)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp450]: [fwaddonmanager ]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::NoneVar]: None

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Dumping stack 16583850:

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Frame count: 3 (Page count: 2)

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] State: Waiting on other stack for return (Freeze state: Freezing)

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Type: Normal

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Return register: None

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Has stack callback: No

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] Stack trace:

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [bFA_VisualEffects (B4006E75)].BFA_VisualEffects.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAddOn_Misc.psc" Line ?

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] IP: 0

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akWoman]: [WIDeadBodyCleanupScript < (0001B092)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akCaster]: [Actor < (00000014)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect < (64003DE7)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [bF_AddOnManager (1E001829)].fwaddonmanager.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAddOnManager.psc" Line 1886

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] IP: 230 Instruction: 10 Line: 1886

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akWoman]: [WIDeadBodyCleanupScript < (0001B092)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akCaster]: [Actor < (00000014)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect < (64003DE7)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp438]: True

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] : 0

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp439]: [bFA_VisualEffects ]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp440]: [bFA_VisualEffects ]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp441]: True

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp442]: 0

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::NoneVar]: None

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [Active effect 10 on (0001B092)].FWAbilityBeeingFemale.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAbilityBeeingFemale.psc" Line 1592

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] IP: 51 Instruction: 1 Line: 1592

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akCaster]: [Actor < (00000014)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect < (64003DE7)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp450]: [fwaddonmanager ]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::NoneVar]: None

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] VM is thawing...

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:07AM] VM is freezing...

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:07AM] VM is frozen

You will notice when B-F starting to have issues, it comes when you have made one hard save. Load up that save again, and only to find that B-F have forgot all settings. ??

Then you need to first restart B-F, then refresh your addons, and after that you need to refresh your npc. And that can take up to 30-40 in real minutes.

I actually killed the game when B-F did try to refresh one NPC and it have struggled whit it for 10 minutes.

This is what PdTWrapped did report on the save.

Awaiting data... It can take a while for a data to be fully loaded (that depends on your savegame, sometimes it can take longer than 30 minutes). The only purpose of this data is to keep you informed about the state of your savegame. You can apply ANY edit operation at ANY time without waiting for the details...

Please, remember - every case is individual. In most cases all problems can be solved via "Remove Unattached Instances". However, some mods can use uncommon techniques based on such type of scripts. So, if you know exactly what scripts cause problems, it's always better to prepare filter for better accuracy. It's recommended to investigate the reasons first before performing any actions (don't forget that you can examine the actual Script Data in readable format).

Analysis...

Warning: There are 2583#Section: Active Threads active threads inside the savegame. It's a lot. This can cause performance issues and savegame bloat. If the Thread count will keep growing in a quiet location, then consider removing related mods or using the corresponding cleaning technique.

2583 threads are associated with script instances. Consider using "Remove Unattached Instances". No luck with removing instances? Try "Terminate Active Threads".

Threads count is growing. Difference is 2583

408 threads ( OnMagicEffectApply) were created by one single instance with ID 437339264#Self: 437339264, which belongs to class FWAbilityBeeingFemale#Class: FWAbilityBeeingFemale from BeeingFemale#Resource: BeeingFemale. This looks suspicious. Please, ensure that these threads are not stuck. You can play a bit and check if these threads are finished or not.

Note: the engine was executing the following instruction at the moment of writing the savegame (is this instruction stuck or it just needs some time to finish?):

I1: call OnMagicEffectApply, temp450, NoneVar, ActorRefvar, akCaster, akEffect;

402 threads ( OnMagicEffectApply) were created by one single instance with ID 427267136#Self: 427267136, which belongs to class FWAbilityBeeingFemale#Class: FWAbilityBeeingFemale from BeeingFemale#Resource: BeeingFemale. This looks suspicious. Please, ensure that these threads are not stuck. You can play a bit and check if these threads are finished or not.

Note: the engine was executing the following instruction at the moment of writing the savegame (is this instruction stuck or it just needs some time to finish?):

I1: call OnMagicEffectApply, temp450, NoneVar, ActorRefvar, akCaster, akEffect;

433 threads ( OnMagicEffectApply) were created by one single instance with ID 520227888#Self: 520227888, which belongs to class FWAbilityBeeingFemale#Class: FWAbilityBeeingFemale from BeeingFemale#Resource: BeeingFemale. This looks suspicious. Please, ensure that these threads are not stuck. You can play a bit and check if these threads are finished or not.

Note: the engine was executing the following instruction at the moment of writing the savegame (is this instruction stuck or it just needs some time to finish?):

I1: call OnMagicEffectApply, temp450, NoneVar, ActorRefvar, akCaster, akEffect;

405 threads ( OnMagicEffectApply) were created by one single instance with ID 457823824#Self: 457823824, which belongs to class FWAbilityBeeingFemale#Class: FWAbilityBeeingFemale from BeeingFemale#Resource: BeeingFemale. This looks suspicious. Please, ensure that these threads are not stuck. You can play a bit and check if these threads are finished or not.

Note: the engine was executing the following instruction at the moment of writing the savegame (is this instruction stuck or it just needs some time to finish?):

I1: call OnMagicEffectApply, temp450, NoneVar, ActorRefvar, akCaster, akEffect;

318 threads ( OnMagicEffectApply) were created by one single instance with ID 415495520#Self: 415495520, which belongs to class FWAbilityBeeingFemale#Class: FWAbilityBeeingFemale from BeeingFemale#Resource: BeeingFemale. This looks suspicious. Please, ensure that these threads are not stuck. You can play a bit and check if these threads are finished or not.

Note: the engine was executing the following instruction at the moment of writing the savegame (is this instruction stuck or it just needs some time to finish?):

I1: call OnMagicEffectApply, temp450, NoneVar, ActorRefvar, akCaster, akEffect;

375 threads ( OnMagicEffectApply) were created by one single instance with ID 396579168#Self: 396579168, which belongs to class FWAbilityBeeingFemale#Class: FWAbilityBeeingFemale from BeeingFemale#Resource: BeeingFemale. This looks suspicious. Please, ensure that these threads are not stuck. You can play a bit and check if these threads are finished or not.

Note: the engine was executing the following instruction at the moment of writing the savegame (is this instruction stuck or it just needs some time to finish?):

I1: call OnMagicEffectApply, temp450, NoneVar, ActorRefvar, akCaster, akEffect;

2 threads ( GetPillDuration) were created by one single instance with ID 312041024#Self: 312041024, which belongs to class fwsystem#Class: fwsystem from BeeingFemale#Resource: BeeingFemale. This looks suspicious. Please, ensure that these threads are not stuck. You can play a bit and check if these threads are finished or not.

Note: the engine was executing the following instruction at the moment of writing the savegame (is this instruction stuck or it just needs some time to finish?):

I0: call getActorContraceptionDuration, Managervar, temp312, A;

7 threads ( UpdateParentFaction) were created by one single instance with ID 2253112304#Self: 2253112304, which belongs to class fwcontroller#Class: fwcontroller from BeeingFemale#Resource: BeeingFemale. This looks suspicious. Please, ensure that these threads are not stuck. You can play a bit and check if these threads are finished or not.

Note: the engine was executing the following instruction at the moment of writing the savegame (is this instruction stuck or it just needs some time to finish?):

I0: call Trace, Systemvar, NoneVar, FWControllerUpdateParentFaction, ParentActor;

15 threads ( getStateDuration) were created by one single instance with ID 312041024#Self: 312041024, which belongs to class fwsystem#Class: fwsystem from BeeingFemale#Resource: BeeingFemale. This looks suspicious. Please, ensure that these threads are not stuck. You can play a bit and check if these threads are finished or not.

Note: the engine was executing the following instruction at the moment of writing the savegame (is this instruction stuck or it just needs some time to finish?):

I3: call getActorDurationScale, Managervar, temp327, Step, Woman;

2 threads ( OnObjectUnequipped) were created by one single instance with ID 2339929728#Self: 2339929728, which belongs to class XPMSEWeaponStyleScaleEffect#Class: XPMSEWeaponStyleScaleEffect from XPMSE#Resource: XPMSE. This looks suspicious. Please, ensure that these threads are not stuck. You can play a bit and check if these threads are finished or not.

Note: the engine was executing the following instruction at the moment of writing the savegame (is this instruction stuck or it just needs some time to finish?):

I2: call Restyle, self, NoneVar, 0;

Scripts from the following resources still have active threads. It's NOT recommended to update these resources until active scripts finish their work

[Resource : Threads count]

BeeingFemale#Resource: BeeingFemale: 2366

SkyUI#Resource: SkyUI: 1

XPMSE#Resource: XPMSE: 3

CreatureFramework#Resource: CreatureFramework: 1

AMatterOfTime#Resource: AMatterOfTime: 1

The most "Heavy" non-basic classes. There are a lot of instances of these classes in the game, in some cases this can lead to performance drop. Some scripts are designed and expected to have a lot of instances. However, if they don't suppose to hold any long term data, such design is not optimal at all. If you experience a performance issues, try temporary removing the corresponding resources.

[script class: Current instances count]

(Skyrim#Resource: Skyrim) mineorefurniturescript#Class: mineorefurniturescript:1972

(Skyrim#Resource: Skyrim) critterSpawn01#Class: critterSpawn01:1655

(UndergroundBathhouse#Resource: UndergroundBathhouse) MineOreScript#Class: MineOreScript:1528

(Skyrim#Resource: Skyrim) critterspawn#Class: critterspawn:1519

(Unofficial Skyrim City Patch Modified#Resource: Unofficial Skyrim City Patch Modified) WeaponRackTriggerSCRIPT#Class: WeaponRackTriggerSCRIPT:1377

(Update#Resource: Update) masterambushscript#Class: masterambushscript:1363

(Update#Resource: Update) WeaponRackActivateScript#Class: WeaponRackActivateScript:1294

(Skyrim#Resource: Skyrim) CWMapFlagScript#Class: CWMapFlagScript:1223

(Skyrim#Resource: Skyrim) default2StateActivator#Class: default2StateActivator:1153

(ZaZAnimationPack#Resource: ZaZAnimationPack) sslBaseAnimation#Class: sslBaseAnimation:1133

(Update#Resource: Update) defaultDisableHavokOnLoad#Class: defaultDisableHavokOnLoad:1019

(RealShelter#Resource: RealShelter) GetShelterTBScript#Class: GetShelterTBScript:1013

The following classes were mentioned in the log just before the game exited. If any crashes occured and if the crash time equals the time of the last line in the Papyrus log, then it's most likely related to those classes

If true, consider removing instances/references or terminating threads (don't forget to specify the filter)

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [bFA_VisualEffects#Class: BFA_VisualEffects (B4006E75)].BFA_VisualEffects#Class: BFA_VisualEffects.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAddOn_Misc.psc" Line ?

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akWoman]: [WIDeadBodyCleanupScript#Class: WIDeadBodyCleanupScript < (0001B092)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akCaster]: [Actor#Class: Actor < (00000014)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect#Class: MagicEffect < (64003DE7)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [bF_AddOnManager (1E001829)].fwaddonmanager#Class: fwaddonmanager.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAddOnManager.psc" Line 1886

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akWoman]: [WIDeadBodyCleanupScript#Class: WIDeadBodyCleanupScript < (0001B092)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akCaster]: [Actor#Class: Actor < (00000014)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect#Class: MagicEffect < (64003DE7)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp439]: [bFA_VisualEffects#Class: BFA_VisualEffects ]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp440]: [bFA_VisualEffects#Class: BFA_VisualEffects ]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [Active effect 10 on (0001B092)].FWAbilityBeeingFemale#Class: FWAbilityBeeingFemale.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAbilityBeeingFemale#Class: FWAbilityBeeingFemale.psc" Line 1592

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akCaster]: [Actor#Class: Actor < (00000014)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect#Class: MagicEffect < (64003DE7)>]

[03/30/2017 - 08:07:06AM] [::temp450]: [fwaddonmanager#Class: fwaddonmanager ]

Analysis complete

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That's what I was already afraid of. The massive threads come from RegisterForSingleUpdate I think. They are dead but not terminated.

Don't worry, I will switch back to RegisterForUpdate

Ok. I am not that good at scripting, but you say they are dead? So they are lingering there and have not been removed by the game?

Did check the Papyrus log file. The logfile I have left is 500 mgb. So I cant upload it.

Have restarted Beeing Female and reset all NPC and the log is down at normal.

Here are some more stack dumps from the log. If it can help you.

Return register: [fwaddonmanager ]

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] Has stack callback: No

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] Stack trace:

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] [Active effect 9 on (180062D4)].FWAbilityBeeingFemale.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAbilityBeeingFemale.psc" Line 1592

Dumping stack 16628250:

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] Frame count: 3 (Page count: 3)

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] State: Waiting on other stack for return (Freeze state: Freezing)

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] Type: Normal

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] Return register: None

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] Has stack callback: No

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] Stack trace:

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] [bF_BathingInSkyrim (1E066E97)].BFA_BathingInSkyrim.OnMagicEffectApply() - "BFA_BathingInSkyrim.psc" Line 42

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] IP: 0 Instruction: 0 Line: 42

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] [akWoman]: [Actor < (5C002306)>]

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] [akCaster]: [Actor < (00000014)>]

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect < (48040071)>]

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] [::temp13]: False

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] [::temp14]: False

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] [::temp16]: False

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] [::temp15]: None

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] [::NoneVar]: None

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] [bF_AddOnManager (1E001829)].fwaddonmanager.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAddOnManager.psc" Line 1886

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] IP: 230 Instruction: 10 Line: 1886

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] [akWoman]: [Actor < (5C002306)>]

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] [akCaster]: [Actor < (00000014)>]

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect < (48040071)>]

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] [::temp438]: True

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] : 4

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] [::temp439]: [bFA_BathingInSkyrim ]

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] [::temp440]: [bFA_BathingInSkyrim ]

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] [::temp441]: True

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] [::temp442]: 4

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] [::NoneVar]: None

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] [Active effect 8 on (5C002306)].FWAbilityBeeingFemale.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAbilityBeeingFemale.psc" Line 1592

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] IP: 51 Instruction: 1 Line: 1592

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] [akCaster]: [Actor < (00000014)>]

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect < (48040071)>]

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] [::temp450]: [fwaddonmanager ]

[03/30/2017 - 05:21:35PM] [::NoneVar]: None

Dumping stack 16667058:

[03/30/2017 - 05:26:58PM] Frame count: 3 (Page count: 2)

[03/30/2017 - 05:26:58PM] State: Waiting on other stack for return (Freeze state: Freezing)

[03/30/2017 - 05:26:58PM] Type: Normal

[03/30/2017 - 05:26:58PM] Return register: None

[03/30/2017 - 05:26:58PM] Has stack callback: No

[03/30/2017 - 05:26:58PM] Stack trace:

[03/30/2017 - 05:26:58PM] [bFA_PregAddOn (B5000D62)].BFA_SC_3T_Fix.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAddOn_Misc.psc" Line ?

[03/30/2017 - 05:26:58PM] IP: 0

[03/30/2017 - 05:26:58PM] [akWoman]: [DLC1SeranaLevelingScript < (02002B74)>]

[03/30/2017 - 05:26:58PM] [akCaster]: [Actor < (00000014)>]

[03/30/2017 - 05:26:58PM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect < (6C0028AB)>]

[03/30/2017 - 05:26:58PM] [bF_AddOnManager (1E001829)].fwaddonmanager.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAddOnManager.psc" Line 1886

[03/30/2017 - 05:26:58PM] IP: 230 Instruction: 10 Line: 1886

[03/30/2017 - 05:26:58PM] [akWoman]: [DLC1SeranaLevelingScript < (02002B74)>]

[03/30/2017 - 05:26:58PM] [akCaster]: [Actor < (00000014)>]

[03/30/2017 - 05:26:58PM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect < (6C0028AB)>]

[03/30/2017 - 05:26:58PM] [::temp438]: True

[03/30/2017 - 05:26:58PM] : 5

[03/30/2017 - 05:26:58PM] [::temp439]: [bFA_SC_3T_Fix ]

[03/30/2017 - 05:26:58PM] [::temp440]: [bFA_SC_3T_Fix ]

[03/30/2017 - 05:26:58PM] [::temp441]: True

[03/30/2017 - 05:26:58PM] [::temp442]: 5

[03/30/2017 - 05:26:58PM] [::NoneVar]: None

[03/30/2017 - 05:26:58PM] [Active effect 9 on (02002B74)].FWAbilityBeeingFemale.OnMagicEffectApply() - "FWAbilityBeeingFemale.psc" Line 1592

[03/30/2017 - 05:26:58PM] IP: 51 Instruction: 1 Line: 1592

[03/30/2017 - 05:26:58PM] [akCaster]: [Actor < (00000014)>]

[03/30/2017 - 05:26:58PM] [akEffect]: [MagicEffect < (6C0028AB)>]

[03/30/2017 - 05:26:58PM] [::temp450]: [fwaddonmanager ]

[03/30/2017 - 05:26:58PM] [::NoneVar]: None

Sprrank · April 1, 2017

Are there actually any breastfeeding animations for the baby item?

Jusperson · April 1, 2017

Hello, milzschnitte, I am a huge fan of your mod. It makes the game so realistic for me. I'd like to report a small bug. My character's child somehow adresses her as archmage :-/

MsOtaku · April 1, 2017

Hey, Milzchnitte.

I reinstalled Beeing Female and the widgets are still not showing up. The only one is the contraception notification, but the others are not. When I reinstalled it, every time I logged into the game I'd get a little panty like symbol (widget) on the left side of the screen and then it would disappear. I have A Matter of Time and RND widgets on my HUD. Is that an issue? The location of the widgets is set to Default in the Beeing Female MCM. I tried left and it didn't affect it. But once I messed with the location of the widgets the panty-like icon no longer shows up when I log in game.

I'd appreciate some help. Thank you!

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