Quick As You Like! (A Devious Adventure)

[DocClox]

It's a point - you do have slavetats installed, I take it?

 

If not, you won't see any tats.

[Arch]

It's a point - you do have slavetats installed, I take it?

 

If not, you won't see any tats.

 

I have slavetats but no MCM for it.... let me see

[Eaoro]

Hey folks !

 

First thing first : thank you Doc for this mod !

 

I just have a question : after the cage scene, I didn't manage to find the following quest... any help ?

[jfraser]

Hey folks !

 

First thing first : thank you Doc for this mod !

 

I just have a question : after the cage scene, I didn't manage to find the following quest... any help ?

 

To quote Doc from about four posts above yours, The second one needs a day and a half to pass and a change in location. The idea is that the DB would get on with her life, go clear a dungeon or something and come back to the city to find that the world had moved on her absence. I'm not sure if anyone ever plays like that, but that was the idea.

[Guest]

 

It's a point - you do have slavetats installed, I take it?

 

If not, you won't see any tats.

 

I have slavetats but no MCM for it.... let me see

 

 

If you don't have an MCM something has gone wrong. Maybe you didn't install J containers? Or maybe you accidentally installed a tattoo pack instead of the mod itself.

[Arch]

 

 

It's a point - you do have slavetats installed, I take it?

 

If not, you won't see any tats.

 

I have slavetats but no MCM for it.... let me see

 

 

If you don't have an MCM something has gone wrong. Maybe you didn't install J containers? Or maybe you accidentally installed a tattoo pack instead of the mod itself.

 

 

Yea thanks got it apparently something didnt take... weird did a reload of a mod and it worked... now sadly I'm stuck on the cart saw some other peoples comments on it. but not the fix any thoughts?

 

[Guest]

 

 

 

It's a point - you do have slavetats installed, I take it?

 

If not, you won't see any tats.

 

I have slavetats but no MCM for it.... let me see

 

 

If you don't have an MCM something has gone wrong. Maybe you didn't install J containers? Or maybe you accidentally installed a tattoo pack instead of the mod itself.

 

 

Yea thanks got it apparently something didnt take... weird did a reload of a mod and it worked... now sadly I'm stuck on the cart saw some other peoples comments on it. but not the fix any thoughts?

 

 

Weird that you're stuck on the cart, stuff breaking there was happening in the last version. But to be honest there's maybe 5 minutes of content after the cart scene and you can't continue from it to normal gameplay, you're basically at the end.

[Arch]

 

 

 

 

It's a point - you do have slavetats installed, I take it?

 

If not, you won't see any tats.

 

I have slavetats but no MCM for it.... let me see

 

 

If you don't have an MCM something has gone wrong. Maybe you didn't install J containers? Or maybe you accidentally installed a tattoo pack instead of the mod itself.

 

 

Yea thanks got it apparently something didnt take... weird did a reload of a mod and it worked... now sadly I'm stuck on the cart saw some other peoples comments on it. but not the fix any thoughts?

 

 

Weird that you're stuck on the cart, stuff breaking there was happening in the last version. But to be honest there's maybe 5 minutes of content after the cart scene and you can't continue from it to normal gameplay, you're basically at the end.

 

 

Yea after some console command play I got the cart to start.... now when I get into the compound, they close the door says something to me... opens a dialog which gives me ... or mmph!  choices and neither one do anything. and Im stuck standing there.  if thats the end I'm sad was really looking forward to how it would go... Hope there are updates soon :/

 

[Sospice]

 

Which quest? the first one to meet in the 'Skeever, or the dinner invite that's supposed to follow?

 

The second one needs a day and a half to pass and a change in location. The idea is that the DB would get on with her life, go clear a dungeon or something and come back to the city to find that the world had moved on her absence. I'm not sure if anyone ever plays like that, but that was the idea.

Sorry, I should have been more specific.

 

The initial quest you get in Solitude to start the first run across Skyrim, not the part 2 with the cart.

 

I had run it up to the cart in the 3.0 version but hit the cart ctd everyone else was getting. 

 

Before, when I installed 3.0 all I had to do was fast travel to a town or village and the courier showed up right away. This time, I bounced around to a bunch of towns and waited. Nothing happens. 

 

Addition:

 

Okay, this is strange. I realized I was also getting a strange bug around that time where I couldn't select items with the triggers (I use an xbox360 controller) in the favorites menu.

 

So I closed everything out and restarted, letting QAYL install again. 

 

This time, all was well in the favorites menu, and the courier showed up after I fast traveled to Whiterun. 

 

I have no idea if these two are connected but I thought I'd let you know. 

[Sospice]

So I'm doing the cart section and the daedric tattoo effects go off. I think this is the part that needs the blur fix patch people are talking about.  MO is basically telling me I need to do a manual install (I get the "bad install" warning on the blur hotfix, I'm guessing that means do it manually).

 Where in the QAYL mod directory do i drop the blur patch files? Where the main esm is?

Otherwise, it's running a lot smoother, just a few issues;

1: You may want to do a hard setting for sexlab animation choices (unless you already did and they aren't on for me?). I'm getting some  animations during the crowd search scene that aren't in keeping with the dialogue so they're not appropriate to what's going on (like BJ scenes, etc). 

I also got some weird position flipping in the beginning of the very first scene after the key is given over and the first sexlab animation starts. Basically, it's like the animation scripting for the characters scene is fighting between two different command sets that are telling them to face in conflicting directions, so what happens is one character is facing off at a right angle and he/ she keeps swiveling back to another set position. 

I'm guessing you've got some scripting connected to telling the character & the npc to perform directly on a spot while facing a specific direction (unless this is a weird conflict in my setup that's causing some sort of delay). The weird positioning conflict stops at about stage 3 of the sexlab animation sequence. Could that be a time out function in your scripting that's stopping a command 10 seconds or so late so it interferes with the sexlabs animation sequence? 

2: After the red blur kicks in, the sexlabs animation is doing a lot of stuttering. 

The mod is coming along nicely, btw. Good work.

P.S. I know this was mentioned some time ago, but could you please, please change the color of the note on the road at the beginning? I've taken to counting how many paving stones up it is from my starting position so I can find it. It's really just that hard to see for some of us.

[DocClox]

I guess when you say "bad install" you're referring to Mod Organizer?

 

I didn't set up a directory folder for those scripts, sadly. I just zipped them up. You can unpack them into the mods scripts folder or create a scripts folder when you install and move them into that.

 

The cart scene animations are a bit shaky. Not surprisingly, no one has made any strip or cavity search animations, and since my talents don't currently extend to animation I'm forced to Frankenstein existing animations to try and get the effect. The problem is that they quite frequently want to turn around. Nothing much I can about this until I either take some time to learn how to hack animations in Blender, or else someone makes me some custom animations.

 

The blur that the hotfix fixes, incidentally, is the one when you wake up after talking to Cursus. Because if the way I wrote it, it never cleared up for some people. The red one you're stuck with, at least until you've seen Cursus again, although it should fade in intensity a bit. Currently, I'd recommend removing it with rimodcf once you've reached the end of the action - assuming you're not just going to reload from before the cart scene.

 

***

 

General update: yesterday trashed by RL. Still can't quite get this other project out of my head at the moment. Although that might happen pretty soon if I can't get pas a couple of stupid coding problems.

[sou93mondal]

For the cavity search you can use fisting animation. Basically Bjorlam is inserting his hand to check her "cavity". It makes sense to me

[DocClox]

It's a thought. Might it not seem a bit brutal, though? I very much want Bjorlam to come out of this as a basically nice guy who's just doing his job and trying to minimise the unpleasantness as best he can.

 

I'd also like any explicit sexual response to come from the player. I don't want this to be rape scene. It's a chance for the player to act like a slut in front of witnesses. It's a little thing, but I hope to pick up on in later stages.

[sou93mondal]

Judging by Bjorlam's dialogue I think he was enjoying PC's ordeal .

[Guest]

It's a thought. Might it not seem a bit brutal, though? I very much want Bjorlam to come out of this as a basically nice guy who's just doing his job and trying to minimise the unpleasantness as best he can.

 

I'd also like any explicit sexual response to come from the player. I don't want this to be rape scene. It's a chance for the player to act like a slut in front of witnesses. It's a little thing, but I hope to pick up on in later stages.

 

 

Judging by Bjorlam's dialogue I think he was enjoying PC's ordeal .

 

Yeah, I definitely did not get the impression that Bjorlam was not a rapist. I mean, obviously we can have some suspension of disbelief in the game, but I thought he was supposed to have been sarcastic during that dialogue. Now that I know he's just a moron I won't kill him, which will make future travel easier...

[Sospice]

I guess when you say "bad install" you're referring to Mod Organizer?

 

I didn't set up a directory folder for those scripts, sadly. I just zipped them up. You can unpack them into the mods scripts folder or create a scripts folder when you install and move them into that.

 

The cart scene animations are a bit shaky. Not surprisingly, no one has made any strip or cavity search animations, and since my talents don't currently extend to animation I'm forced to Frankenstein existing animations to try and get the effect. The problem is that they quite frequently want to turn around. Nothing much I can about this until I either take some time to learn how to hack animations in Blender, or else someone makes me some custom animations.

 

The blur that the hotfix fixes, incidentally, is the one when you wake up after talking to Cursus. Because if the way I wrote it, it never cleared up for some people. The red one you're stuck with, at least until you've seen Cursus again, although it should fade in intensity a bit. Currently, I'd recommend removing it with rimodcf once you've reached the end of the action - assuming you're not just going to reload from before the cart scene.

 

***

 

General update: yesterday trashed by RL. Still can't quite get this other project out of my head at the moment. Although that might happen pretty soon if I can't get pas a couple of stupid coding problems.

 

Ah, okay. Then I don't need to worry about that hotfix. 

 

There is an animation in one of the Captured Dreams quest lines that would do the trick. You might want to ask the mod author if you can use it. 

 

I don't have it installed, but I tried it at one point and from what I recall, there's an "Assist a Customer" mini quest where the character turns around, bends over and allows the customer to probe them (it ends with a device equip). From what I recall, the "Forbidden Tome Quest" from devious expansion also uses a variation of that animation where the character is hanging from a chain. 

 

The animations are not part of the sexlabs animation pack and are not editable in the sexlabs animation editor MCM section. 

[DocClox]

Judging by Bjorlam's dialogue I think he was enjoying PC's ordeal .

Well he's not ... unappreciative of some of the sights involved, let's say. But I hadn't intended him to revel in her distress or anything like that.

 

Yeah, I definitely did not get the impression that Bjorlam was not a rapist. I mean, obviously we can have some suspension of disbelief in the game, but I thought he was supposed to have been sarcastic during that dialogue. Now that I know he's just a moron I won't kill him, which will make future travel easier...

I suppose it's difficult when there's no tone of voice at times like this. But that's why he keeps encouraging the player to go do something else. I mean he's been paid already.

 

He is a bit of a smart-arse in places, certainly. But that's generally either when the player's threatening him, or when he's just been asked the same question for the third or fourth time. He's not so much abusive there as he is fed up of dogged player persistence.

 

And yeah, I don't think he's daft, but he's not the sharpest tool in the box, either.

 

There is an animation in one of the Captured Dreams quest lines that would do the trick. You might want to ask the mod author if you can use it. 

 

I don't have it installed, but I tried it at one point and from what I recall, there's an "Assist a Customer" mini quest where the character turns around, bends over and allows the customer to probe them (it ends with a device equip). From what I recall, the "Forbidden Tome Quest" from devious expansion also uses a variation of that animation where the character is hanging from a chain. 

 

I'll have to look into that, then. It would be nice to do that scene without the PC keeping swiveling through 180 degrees

[Sospice]

I'm still having a bit of trouble at the gate. Am I supposed to be locked into first person view? Because it starts out that way and sometimes I can hit the joystick to revert to 3rd person view, and sometimes I can't.

I tried the patch to speak to the fellow after Bjorlam leaves, but now instead of the gag dialogue, I'm getting what I think are the sexlab dialogue options (which I believe is a hard requirement for SD+). 

What's weird is I even tried deactivating the sexlab dialogues option and it's still happening. Is there some sort of conflict between SD+ & your mod? I think I saw someone mention this issue earlier in the thread. 

I don't know if this is supposed to be the case, but the sound effect from the daedric tattoo activation is still playing along with the red screen effect at that point at the gate. If I do a reload of a save after it activates, the sound effect is gone but the red screen effect is still there.

Thought I'd mention that.

One small thing too; Bjorlam says "We don't TEAT a woman that way" instead of "we don't TREAT a woman that way". While funny, I don't think that was intended.

[DocClox]

I'm still having a bit of trouble at the gate. Am I supposed to be locked into first person view? Because it starts out that way and sometimes I can hit the joystick to revert to 3rd person view, and sometimes I can't.

 

You should start in 1st person, but not locked that way. I drop you into 1PV so you get the effect of the DD blindfold but would should be able to pull back from it. Depending on how you have DD configured, you might have to.

 

What's weird is I even tried deactivating the sexlab dialogues option and it's still happening. Is there some sort of conflict between SD+ & your mod? I think I saw someone mention this issue earlier in the thread.

 

I hadn't thought so, in fact the intention is that it would work alongside SD+. Then again, it's a long time since I wrote that scene and I've not tested it against SD+ recently.

 

I don't know if this is supposed to be the case, but the sound effect from the daedric tattoo activation is still playing along with the red screen effect at that point at the gate. If I do a reload of a save after it activates, the sound effect is gone but the red screen effect is still there.

 

The peal of thunder? That's supposed to play once and be done. Another one to add to the list.

 

One small thing too; Bjorlam says "We don't TEAT a woman that way" instead of "we don't TREAT a woman that way". While funny, I don't think that was intended.

Yeah... that needs fixing

[Mercor]

Hello!

 

I wanted to try the lastest version, but I had some troubles unfortunatly... It's to start the first race. I received the note, talked to the guy... But after the loading screen... Nothing. I just see a black screen and can't do anything. In a first time, I thought it was due to the DD blindfold effect, but it seems that's not the case. I can open the quests resume and the fast-time function, but that's all.

I'm sorry if someone already had the problem and if you already answered, if it's the case I didn't find it. Can you help me please?

[DocClox]

what does sql qayl say? no need for the whole thing, just is it running and what stage?

 

setstage qayl 1 might shake it loose as well

[Sospice]

So I turned off the following mods in MO to see what would happen because all were offering dialogue options that seemed to bypass whatever was trying to happen;

sexlabsstories + SLStoriesDevious. 
MilkMod
SD32+

SLDialogues

Once they were all gone, I get;

"right, now that the mouth breather is gone, let's get started". And then nothing happens. 

I put SD32 on again with SLDialogues and it goes back to giving me the SD dialogue options. I've got the second patch on from you as well.

I don't mind removing all of those as I I don't use them much (except for SLDialogues & SD32, I gather that they're a bit of a framework for a number of other rmods).

Any thoughts on how to proceed?

[Mercor]

what does sql qayl say? no need for the whole thing, just is it running and what stage? setstage qayl 1 might shake it loose as well

 

It said it's on stage 1. I tried to make it go to stage 5. I see the new entrance in the journal, but I can't do anything.

And I tried to do the stage 5 without doing stage 1, it works but with no restraints.

 

EDIT : OK it seems that Devious Devices isn't working... Sorry for the trouble, I'll try to fix that

[Sospice]

Hello!

 

I wanted to try the lastest version, but I had some troubles unfortunatly... It's to start the first race. I received the note, talked to the guy... But after the loading screen... Nothing. I just see a black screen and can't do anything. In a first time, I thought it was due to the DD blindfold effect, but it seems that's not the case. I can open the quests resume and the fast-time function, but that's all.

I'm sorry if someone already had the problem and if you already answered, if it's the case I didn't find it. Can you help me please?

I had that problem with 3.0. I uninstalled it, did a fresh install, and then ran tesedit,  loot & FNIS to make sure everything was in proper working order. You probably only need to do the fresh install though. 

 

I did just get that issue with the recent version but it was because I was messing around with the QUAYL tats folder (I was curious since I always seem to get the same ones, so I wanted to see if I could force certain tats to be picked by removing others). It seems that the tats are not randomly picked, so if something goes wrong with the tattoo installation, or the tattoo picking option, you can get a hang up in that black screen.

 

Doc, it seems that only about half of the tattoo options available are set up to be chosen when you start the quest. Is that deliberate?

[DocClox]

So I turned off the following mods in MO to see what would happen because all were offering dialogue options that seemed to bypass whatever was trying to happen;

 

sexlabsstories + SLStoriesDevious.

MilkMod

SD32+

SLDialogues

 

Once they were all gone, I get;

 

"right, now that the mouth breather is gone, let's get started". And then nothing happens.

 

Hmm... so there's definitely a clash somewhere.

 

There's probably a flag somewhere to disable that. In the meantime, if you can live without those, you might as well turn them off for the duration of the scene. There's not a lot to go and you can turn them back on afterwards.

 

Thanks for the investigative work

 

 

It said it's on stage 1. I tried to make it go to stage 5. I see the new entrance in the journal, but I can't do anything.

And I tried to do the stage 5 without doing stage 1, it works but with no restraints.

 

EDIT : OK it seems that Devious Devices isn't working... Sorry for the trouble, I'll try to fix that

If the DD gear isn't equipping, there's a loop that waits for them all to equip wich will probably never terminate. I can probably add a timeout to that, thinking about it.