[WIP] Skyrim Slavers Guild

[jhondidfool]

You make it' date=' I'll look at including it

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I'd love to.

Sadly, my skills with skeleton and animation edition are close to none... and I say close because I know how to create a bone in Blender. That's all...

However, I'm sure you can press someone's buttons for something like this.

[nmanp1]

@Dream Treasure

 

from what i know of custom races, most texture mods should still work, new armors need to be enabled manually through the CK, and our mod(being a combination of location, quest, texture, and armor/mesh) you will have to enable some things for custom races but some of it shoulld work with no trouble.

 

Thats what ive learned over the past month since i started playing a custom deadra race.

[DocClox]

I'd love to.

Sadly' date=' my skills with skeleton and animation edition are close to none... and I say close because I know how to create a bone in Blender. That's all...

However, I'm sure you can press someone's buttons for something like this.

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Is this where I'm supposed to say something like "you could always suck up to someone so they'd show you more about making bones"?

 

Because if so, we are so not having this conversation.

 

from what i know of custom races' date=' most texture mods should still work, new armors need to be enabled manually through the CK, and our mod(being a combination of location, quest, texture, and armor/mesh) you will have to enable some things for custom races but some of it shoulld work with no trouble.

 

Thats what ive learned over the past month since i started playing a custom deadra race.

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Useful to know, thanks

[00ptic]

 

Is this where I'm supposed to say something like "you could always suck up to someone so they'd show you more about making bones"?

 

 

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Anyway, are there any tutorials for doing this type of thing?

[beastmaster]

 

Is this where I'm supposed to say something like "you could always suck up to someone so they'd show you more about making bones"?

 

 

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Anyway' date=' are there any tutorials for doing this type of thing?

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/delurking www.blender.org/education-help/tutorials/animation/

maybe you'll find something useful there

[DocClox]

 

Is this where I'm supposed to say something like "you could always suck up to someone so they'd show you more about making bones"?

 

 

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Sorry' date=' I thought were doing "penis based innuendo". It won't happen again

 

/delurking www.blender.org/education-help/tutorials/animation/

maybe you'll find something useful there

 

Yeah, tons of good ones on the blender site. I particularly liked Blender: From Noob To Pro on wikibooks. Admittedly, I never got much beyond making the animated gingerbread man, but I can't blame the book for that

[knightmare]

Just had a thought... Would anyone else like to see some, Mord Sith, from the sword of truth/legend of the seeker.

 

Naturally we can adapt things to fit our needs, but I think with only a little tweaking to the original lore they could be very interesting and TES lore friendly characters.

 

Instead of Darken Rahl they could serve Molag Bal.

Maybe a female PC could join their ranks.

 

They could be a part of the slavers guild, or perhaps a rival faction with which there are disputes and territory battles.

 

Let me hear some other peoples thoughts on this matter.

[mizreg]

It would be an amazing add-on, but I don't think it fits the main theme very well. As this slavers guild is very sexually oriented.

[knightmare]

It would be an amazing add-on' date=' but I don't think it fits the main theme very well. As this slavers guild is very sexually oriented.

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It's been a while sense I read the books, but I remember the Mord Sith as being very sexual...

[DocClox]

Instead of Darken Rahl they could serve Molag Bal.

Maybe a female PC could join their ranks.

 

They could be a part of the slavers guild' date=' or perhaps a rival faction with which there are disputes and territory battles.

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Mmm... much as I love the mord-siths, I'd prefer not to have anything too derivative in the mod. Which isn't to say we can't have something inspired by them.

 

It would be an amazing add-on' date=' but I don't think it fits the main theme very well. As this slavers guild is very sexually oriented.

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So were the Mord-Sith, at least in the books. I don't know how much of it made it to the TV, of course.

 

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OK, a bit of bad news, people:

 

I celebrated too soon: It turns out that "ghosting" an npc won't let you get close enough to have sex. In fact turning collisions off globally wont let you get close enough to have sex

 

It seems there's effectively a collision box around the genital area that stays active, no matter what. I can stand my char so he occupies the same co-ords as Teija and there isn't a problem, but move him out by one unit and the invisible bloody chaperone kicks in and separates them.

 

I don't generally subscribe the bethesda conspiracy theories about how they're trying to stop us making sex mods, but it's hard to see this as anything but deliberate.

 

There are approaches that could still work.

 

• I've not looked at ASX yet. rainofchaos said they were cancelling collision, so I'm now wondering if they hit the same problem or if not how close they get. Maybe I'm doing something stupid.
  
• AP moves the actor and leaves her collision box behind. I think we could do the same thing by translation as well. I'm just not familiar with the animation toolset to make use of that. Maybe I'll need to learn.
  
• I could try and write a SKSE patch. But i'm not that good with assembly language, much as it pains me to admit it.
  
• I could just keep on with text scenes and wait for someone clever than I am to fix it.
  
• I can use the AP animations, which I know will work. That greatly limits the situations where I can use animation in the mod, which is a pain ... but maybe it's better than nothing
  

 

Right. I need a cup of coffee. Whatever happens, sex is going to take a little longer than I thought it would two days ago ...

[jhondidfool]

I think AP method is the more solid one... I use AP and ASX several times per play session, and AP never fails, but ASX tends to show odd behaviour from time to time. Plus, they're also switching to AP's method.

And yeah, collision boxes in the groin? Lol.

[Queen Bee]

 

So were the Mord-Sith' date=' at least in the books. I don't know how much of it made it to the TV, of course.

 

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Yeah, they were very sexual in the TV show, though of course they had to tone it down for puritan American audiences. They get a bit kinky here and there, a lot of implied sex without much action. Buffy the Vampire Slayer got raunchier than this.

 

*sigh* When will my country realize depictions of sex are less damaging to young minds than violence? I'd much rather see nipples on tv than the absurd amount of shootings, stabbings, abuse and more no one seems to have a problem with.

 

*gets off the soap box*

 

Anyway, Mord Sith would be perfect! I wouldn't call them that, but they're so sexy!

[GHJKL]

 

So were the Mord-Sith' date=' at least in the books. I don't know how much of it made it to the TV, of course.

 

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Yeah, they were very sexual in the TV show, though of course they had to tone it down for puritan American audiences. They get a bit kinky here and there, a lot of implied sex without much action. Buffy the Vampire Slayer got raunchier than this.

 

*sigh* When will my country realize depictions of sex are less damaging to young minds than violence?

 

Not so sure that that is true, have you seen what has happened/is happening in Egypt?

[Queen Bee]

The riots? That's violence. Or is something sexual going on I'm not aware of?

[Asariphile]

 

 

It seems there's effectively a collision box around the genital area that stays active' date=' no matter what.

 

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I swear we need a fucking kick in the nads here in America. Things like this really tick me off, and Bethesda has never pulled this kind of shit in the past. I guess I shouldn't be surprised seeing as in every other game they provided the soundtrack free and already converted to mp3 format right in the install folder, but in this game they made you work for it as they were trying to sell it.

 

Censorship can die in a fire, hopefully this generation can change things. While I myself happen to be christian, I am EXTREMELY liberal in my faith. The hardcore fundies are becoming more and more the minority, and more and more despised by the general populous. Hopefully this puritanical nonsense will get cut out of our society like the cancer it is. One can only hope.

[Queen Bee]

We should start a thread on the topic of censorship in one of the other forums, whichever one is most appropriate. I just don't want to derail Herr Doktor's thread.

[deadmetal]

I dont believe there is a collision box around the groin...someone else would have noticed it by now, plus it would be visible in the skeleton mesh

[DocClox]

I dont believe there is a collision box around the groin...someone else would have noticed it by now' date=' plus it would be visible in the skeleton mesh

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Hmmm... and in fact 30 seconds of running around whiterun with tcl set shows that you can indeed run through other people. So it's not that simple.

 

OK, a bit more investigation is perhaps called for. Too little sleep and too much stress lately.

 

I know the collisions were off though. Damn. I'll do some more tests. I may be talking utter cobblers here.

[GHJKL]

The riots? That's violence. Or is something sexual going on I'm not aware of?

 

Ms. Logan' date=' a CBS News correspondent, was in the (tahir) square preparing a report for “60 Minutes” on Feb. 11 when the celebratory mood suddenly turned threatening. She was ripped away from her producer and bodyguard by a group of men who tore at her clothes and groped and beat her body. “For an extended period of time, they raped me with their hands,” Ms. Logan said in an interview with The New York Times. She estimated that the attack involved 200 to 300 men.[/quote']

 

And she isn't the first.

 

But you are right and let's not derail the thread.

 

 

I know it might sound weird but are there any plans for living furniture?

 

 

 

[jhondidfool]

I dont believe there is a collision box around the groin...someone else would have noticed it by now' date=' plus it would be visible in the skeleton mesh

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You can hardcode it into the engine, with relative coordinates respect the 0,0,0 of the NPC/PC

[Asariphile]

We should start a thread on the topic of censorship in one of the other forums' date=' whichever one is most appropriate. I just don't want to derail Herr Doktor's thread.

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My bad, if the box REALLY IS there though... that kind of thing really "Grinds my Gears"

 

I'll try and keep it on topic

[DocClox]

I know it might sound weird but are there any plans for living furniture?

 

I'm a big fan of living furniture. Not sure how we'll do it given the current collision issues though

 

You can hardcode it into the engine' date=' with relative coordinates respect the 0,0,0 of the NPC/PC

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Well, that was my first thought. Trouble is I can't reproduce it by turning off collisions and running around Whiterun. It could just kick in when both parties are playing idles though, or something like that.

 

Further investigation is called for, clearly.

[deadmetal]

Try not to burn yourself over the animation issues, chances are it will be a simple solution right under your nose, take some rest or focus on some of the easier parts of the mod, come back to it when your more focused

 

we can wait

[Queen Bee]

Try not to burn yourself over the animation issues' date=' chances are it will be a simple solution right under your nose, take some rest or focus on some of the easier parts of the mod, come back to it when your more focused

 

we can wait

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This. You've been so diligent with this. No one will fault you if you take a break.

[jhondidfool]

Try not to burn yourself over the animation issues' date=' chances are it will be a simple solution right under your nose, take some rest or focus on some of the easier parts of the mod, come back to it when your more focused

 

we can wait

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