[WIP] Skyrim Slavers Guild

[DocClox]

Hmm... I actually don't see vampires recovering their pride faster. I think that they would literally never get over being broken by something as weak as a mortal' date=' and remain in the initial broken state forever.

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The way I see it, when a vamp gets to drink his or her fill, they get a dizzying rush of power and confidence. That has got to raise their pride - at least in the fairly specialist "willpower" sense that we use in SSG.

 

Of course, you can get around that by keeping them hungry and rationing the blood supply. But you don't want them to get too hungry. If they hit type 4 starvation, the beast takes over and all the training in the world isn't worth a damn anymore.

 

Of course when they've fed, the training kicks back in again. But you've also got a vamp with a belly full of warm blood looking round at the devastation they just caused and thinking "Hot damn! Maybe I still got it after all..."

 

But at the same time I don't see them getting to that point without a LOT of work. I also would imagine they have much higher initial pride' date=' since many (especially the older ones) consider themselves to be royalty, gods or at least above humans (and those damned [b']wolves[/b]!).

 

Yeah, but balanced against which is that you can use their hunger, and often their arrogance against them. But they're always going to be tricky.

 

Doc' date=' you absolutely MUST put in an NPC in charge of vampire slaves and call her Buffy the Vampire Slaver. XD

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No. Absolutely not. I refuse. Never, I say!

 

Well ... maybe if we spell it "Bjoffi"

[Queen Bee]

Bjoffi could work. Or you could call her Barbara Anne, since that's Buffy's real name.

 

Edit: No it's not, I just looked it up. Apparently her real name is Buffy Anne. So yeah, Bjoffi.

[jhondidfool]

Ah! the 90's....

Ontopic, I think handling a vampire is nothing major, as long as you have the supply line of blood under control. Also, their more mentally weak stages, though physically stronger, a skilled Dominant (slaver) could make obedient blabbering babies out of them without much trouble in a couple of days...

[Queen Bee]

Oh! Doc! Check this out!

 

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/19447

 

Among other changes, this mod lets you knock people unconscious. Maybe with some tweaks you could make it work with something else, like chloroform or something.

[DocClox]

Ontopic' date=' I think handling a vampire is nothing major, as long as you have the supply line of blood under control.

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That would be the trick of it. I also reckon they're good at escapology, and I'd probably make them more devious than the average slavegirl. More likely to try faking submission in the hopes of escape.

 

Also' date=' their more mentally weak stages, though physically stronger, a skilled Dominant (slaver) could make obedient blabbering babies out of them without much trouble in a couple of days...

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Fledgelings would be easy, but they get hungry so quickly. Watch out for that stage four hunger.

 

Oh! Doc! Check this out!

 

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/19447

 

Among other changes' date=' this mod lets you knock people unconscious. Maybe with some tweaks you could make it work with something else, like chloroform or something.

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Looks like fun I shall have to investigate in more detail.

[jhondidfool]

Fledgelings would be easy' date=' but they get hungry so quickly. Watch out for that stage four hunger.

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Dominate them in full plate mail smouldered with garlic?

[itt1968]

Yup... keep on messing with those vamps if you want to, if your not careful, you will wind up as there next meal LMFA!!! Couldn't help that one, I play Vamps ;P You can rape my lil vamp all day long but dont try to send her to her coffin without dinner... bad idea... real bad idea LOL and as far as the armor smeared with garlic, even if you did manage to get it on her/him I truly dont think you will get a submissive vamp servant that way... more like a very enraged creature who will kill every one around them until that armor comes off. Just give them fresh supplys of blood and you will have a most obedient servant... IMPO of course Case solved, and yet it was soooo easy to do so, blood is life, even to the undead.

[DocClox]

Yup... keep on messing with those vamps if you want to' date=' if your not careful, you will wind up as there next meal LMFA!!! Couldn't help that one, I play Vamps ;P You can rape my lil vamp all day long but dont try to send her to her coffin without dinner... bad idea...

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They're never going to be easy to keep as slaves, nor entirely safe ... but it should be doable

 

Why should the living have all the fun, after all?

 

as far as the armor smeared with garlic' date=' even if you did manage to get it on her/him I truly dont think you will get a submissive vamp servant that way...

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I think the idea was that the slaver wear the armour, rather than the vampire. Though I could imagine a good cartoon based on that misunderstanding

 

Personally, I want to start importing corkbulb plants from Morrowind. Get a nice big cork ballgag for the vamps to sink their fangs into, and a hole drilled in the middle that we can trickle blood through as a reward.

[Daguy]

Garlic armor itself would be hilarious, especially if you stumble upon another slaver trying it, for one simple reason... garlic doesn't actually work on TES Vampires. Said slaver would have their throat ripped out. Vincent from Oblivion was alergic to garlic, but he noted it was a strange and personal quirk.

[nmanp1]

actually, if you remember from oblivion, Vincent Valieri, the vamp of the DB said that he was allergic to garlic but he also said he had never seen another vampire have a reaction, or at least as bad a reaction, as he did

[nmanp1]

whoops, daguy beat me to it. I never read the last post

[00ptic]

Yup... keep on messing with those vamps if you want to' date=' if your not careful, you will wind up as there next meal LMFA!!! Couldn't help that one, I play Vamps ;P You can rape my lil vamp all day long but dont try to send her to her coffin without dinner... bad idea...

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They're never going to be easy to keep as slaves, nor entirely safe ... but it should be doable

 

Why should the living have all the fun, after all?

 

as far as the armor smeared with garlic' date=' even if you did manage to get it on her/him I truly dont think you will get a submissive vamp servant that way...

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I think the idea was that the slaver wear the armour, rather than the vampire. Though I could imagine a good cartoon based on that misunderstanding

 

Personally, I want to start importing corkbulb plants from Morrowind. Get a nice big cork ballgag for the vamps to sink their fangs into, and a hole drilled in the middle that we can trickle blood through as a reward.

 

I suppose right after feeding (or slaughtering a few members), the vampire might think they're something special so the pride makes sense.

 

As for the cork gag, that would be a pretty effective way to tease them, but I don't know how happy they'd be about it. I'm going to let the other slavers handle that facet of our operations, however. I like my PC's throat right where it is. Then again, I might keep mine declawed as well as gagged

 

Maybe there could be some kind of arena where you put various opponents against a stage 4 vampire (or just stage 4 vampires in general). Or a line of holding pens that you simultaneously release when the guild is under attack. "Release...the starved." Or maybe it could just be a pride drop on the vampires who consider themselves above their brutish and impulsive fledgling relatives. I don't know exactly what, but there has to be some reason to intentionally get them to that state.

[DocClox]

Vincent from Oblivion was alergic to garlic' date=' but he noted it was a strange and personal quirk.

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actually' date=' if you remember from oblivion, Vincent Valieri, the vamp of the DB said that he was allergic to garlic but he also said he had never seen another vampire have a reaction, or at least as bad a reaction, as he did

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All very true

 

I suppose right after feeding (or slaughtering a few members)' date=' the vampire might think they're something special so the pride makes sense.

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It just feels right to me. I can imagine even the smell of blood giving them a short term buff to pride. Think of all the vampire films and the way the vamp bristles and hisses when he/she smells blood.

 

As for the cork gag' date=' that would be a pretty effective way to [i']tease[/i] them, but I don't know how happy they'd be about it. I'm going to let the other slavers handle that facet of our operations, however. I like my PC's throat right where it is. Then again, I might keep mine declawed as well as gagged

 

I'm joking about the corkbulbs. Well, half-joking anyway. Probably.

 

I'll tell you what though; that would make an awesome mission for the abolitionists: A straightforward run to clear out a guild base, only to find that the vamps broke loose from the pen, and everyone is now a vampire or a thrall. "Welcome to my domain. I'm afraid you'll find the guild under new management ... Mua-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!"

 

I have this image of lots of vampirised pleasure slaves, still wearing their Slave Leia outfits, looking for a bit of payback...

 

Could do it for the slaver players as well, but we'd need a disposable guild HQ. Hmm...

 

I don't know exactly what' date=' but there has to be some reason to intentionally get them to that state.

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Interesting idea. I shall have a ponder.

 

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Whoo! I know how to cancel collisions for individual objects. Actor.SetGhost(true). That's all it does!

 

Just wait until I get back to my desktop...

 

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Anyone have any thoughts about how we should address the question of male genetalia?

 

Personally, I'd be as happy with the guys wearing loin cloths, but I suspect a lot of people want more than that.

 

I'm also happy to leave it to individuals to install their own body mods. But if the majority want to see dongs in the game, it would probably help if I was using such a mod, if only to help get rod A lined up with slot B. In which case, I'd prefer something that allowed for erect and flaccid, and preferably not one of the silly-huge ones kicking around on nexus.

 

Thoughts, anyone?

[Daguy]

Made a post on that a little ways back, didn't get a whole lot of response.

 

This was linked, but I haven't tried it yet: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/6667

 

Even if it is the 'right' size, it requires the player to manually swap between erect and flacid. If I remember right, Oblivion and Lovers made the bottom half of the male body into a 'quest item' that was seamlessly and forcfully equipped on men during sex.

 

That way the bodies stayed flacid until they were 'needed'.

[DocClox]

Made a post on that a little ways back' date=' didn't get a whole lot of response.

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My apologies. I try to reply to everyone, but some posts slip through the cracks.

 

This was linked, but I haven't tried it yet: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/6667

 

Even if it is the 'right' size' date=' it requires the player to manually swap between erect and flacid. If I remember right, Oblivion and Lovers made the bottom half of the male body into a 'quest item' that was seamlessly and forcfully equipped on men during sex.

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I can live with having to swap states manually. Well, as long as there's some way to make it happen in NPCs of course.

 

I'll have a look when I get home.

[Jimjim117]

I think most people are currently using Chris's Better Males(The Darksoul version) or whatever It's called, Unrealistic in terms of size but it was the recomended mod for ASX and AP since its the most popular male body replacer on the nexus. But it's up to you how you do it.

[GHJKL]

can't the need for both flacid and erect be changed to loincloth and erect?

 

That would mean that you could keep the loincloth on during times when there is no sex and when the magic is happening it goes off?

 

And no idea if there is one Animated prostitution dick or that it is separate, but AP is kinda popular right now (I think) Can't you take the one used there?

[Daguy]

My apologies. I try to reply to everyone' date=' but some posts slip through the cracks.

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No, no, I don't mean I posted it here. I mean I made a thread asking about smaller wangs.

 

I was just noting that I had an asnwer for you, of sorts.

 

Could you do me a favor? When you do try it, can you let me know if its the 'same' base body as Sundracon's body?

 

(http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/3421) <- This one.

 

Assuming you used it of course, because as far as I know most do, even if its the super-duper-killercock version. Because until now the flacid one is the one i've been using and like post people I fear change. =P

 

I'd prefer peoples entire bodies didn't change when they got a hard on. I'd rather swap full time to the 'new' body I linked, than have a strange change happen. It would be jarring with screenshots.

[DocClox]

Proving how some messages slip through the cracks ...

 

I think most people are currently using Chris's Better Males(The Darksoul version) or whatever It's called' date=' Unrealistic in terms of size but it was the recomended mod for ASX and AP since its the most popular male body replacer on the nexus. But it's up to you how you do it.

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Sure. I just wanted to get some idea of what people were using. Or wanted to use.

 

can't the need for both flacid and erect be changed to loincloth and erect?

 

That would mean that you could keep the loincloth on during times when there is no sex and when the magic is happening it goes off?

 

And no idea if there is one Animated prostitution dick or that it is separate' date=' but AP is kinda popular right now (I think) Can't you take the one used there?

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Both ideas worth looking at.

 

 

No' date=' no, I don't mean I posted it here. I mean I made a thread asking about smaller wangs.

 

I was just noting that I had an asnwer for you, of sorts.

 

Could you do me a favor? When you do try it, can you let me know if its the 'same' base body as Sundracon's body?

 

(http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/3421) <- This one.

 

Assuming you used it of course, because as far as I know most do, even if its the super-duper-killercock version. Because until now the flacid one is the one i've been using and like post people I fear change. =P

 

I'd prefer peoples entire bodies didn't change when they got a hard on. I'd rather swap full time to the 'new' body I linked, than have a strange change happen. It would be jarring with screenshots.

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Yeah, I'd as soon not have bodies change drastically for sex. That was one reason I was thinking of an equitable organ.

 

Of course, that's something we could potentially configure using the resources framework. I might have to write the rest of that soon at this rate

[Dream Treasure]

umm been followen this thred for quit a while and i wanted to ask what happens if we use a mod that gives us another race to play that isent in the oringal game?

[DocClox]

I don't know. I guess I need someone to test it and see what the problems are likely to be.

[jhondidfool]

About the erect or flaccid... females have BBP on their skeletons, why don't you put a 2Boner" bone in the skeleton and alter the idles? You're using FNIS, or a variation of it, I can't remember, so you could script when to do it.

[DocClox]

You make it, I'll look at including it

[delurker]

If you're taking a poll, Doc, then I'll say I prefer the more realistic options here. Normal-sized thingies that stay hidden when armor/pants are being worn, dangly when there's no action going on, and straightened out when there is something worth getting straightened out for.

[GHJKL]

I would prefer that there is no need to install a specific bodymodification as it is a very personal choice. And I would like to think that it is mostly Aesthetics and that the dicks will be around the same place?