[WIP] Skyrim Slavers Guild

[jhondidfool]

poop is cool

 

erm........... well, you are entitled to your kinks, but I doubt scat passes Doc's eye bleach test...

[nmanp1]

DL is looking at a DSTG line for the quest. That's going to take a bit longer since we need an extra quest to introduce the abolitionist faction.

 

what about the Vigilants of Stendarr? They seek to take down Daedric influence' date=' they're already in the game "searching" for something. The Slaves Guild could be that "something" if you were to follow the Molag Bal thing that is. Makes sense to me, what do others think?

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Actually, i've been playing dawnguard on the xbox for the past few days, and it turns out the vigilants were searching for powerful VAMPIRE artifacts, though when they found them, the sorta kinda sorta got blown up by vampires with fire

[mizreg]

Its not a kink, it was just my random daily sentence, amd since in my time zone the next day has technically already begun heres the next one: Don't eat raw granny's, they make you sick

[hogit]

@Diel

oh yeah I forgot about the Twin Lamps lol

 

@KnightMare

awesome irish voice

 

@DocClock

Molag Bal- I chose him bc the DB and Thieves Guild are each crime based guilds that have just one patron: Sithis through the Night Mother, and Nocturnal. Thats where I got that idea

Sapphire- she has only one unimportant quest Shadr's Debt and has no real function in the Theives Guild, she also mentions being raped by bandits for a fortnight(2 weeks). I was thinking the Molag Bal idea could be an extension to why she got raped, because he was gonna reward those bandits for setting up a shrine at that pig farm, but she killed them. And as a quest reward for "converting" her through rape and slavery, she could serve you by stealing gems for you for free and submitting her soul to Molag Bal so he gets her soul when she dies. Since he is the Harvester of Souls.

Hermaphrodites- I would do it myself but Blender doesn't work on my computer, it crashes on startup after the command prompt. If I were to make a mod with the ideas i gave, would you include it in your mod?

 

and thanks for your replies and considering my ideas

 

@nmanp1

I can't wait till Dawnguard comes out on PC so I can get it and play it!

[scepth]

I can't seem to get quest 1b started. Am I supposed to go to Chillfurow farm and look for Enarvy Sarayn? Coz I can't find him there.. and I didn't get any prompt after I finished the first mission, although I chose to side with the slavers guild.

[DocClox]

Text on flesh only visible during orgasm? I'd rape them and skin them mid-coitus' date=' then have the skins bound into a book of flesh. Mmmmmmm......

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That would work. Well assuming that the markings don't fade from the skin once removed. They'd still be there at a tactile level though, so you could still complete the quest.

 

Personally though I think it would be crueller to sell them to H-M alive. I mean the chances are he's going to treat them as books. Which in H-M's case means he's going to bind them in featureless black leather covers, stick them on a book case and forget about them until such time as he needs to check a reference. The setup would need to extend life indefinitely of course, and it would probably maintain it's occupant at very high arousal levels so that she could start orgasming the moment the book was opened, and continue doing so until it was closed. And then back on the bookshelf for another hundred and fifty years.

 

Or he might just decide to breed 'em and make sure the volumes never went out of stock that way.

 

Actually' date=' i've been playing dawnguard on the xbox for the past few days, and it turns out the vigilants were searching for powerful VAMPIRE artifacts, though when they found them, the sorta kinda sorta got blown up by vampires with fire

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/me waits paitently for Dawnguard on the PC

 

Its not a kink' date=' it was just my random daily sentence, amd since in my time zone the next day has technically already begun heres the next one: Don't eat raw granny's, they make you sick

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I am so relieved.

 

Molag Bal- I chose him bc the DB and Thieves Guild are each crime based guilds that have just one patron: Sithis through the Night Mother' date=' and Nocturnal. Thats where I got that idea

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And it makes perfect sense. In may ways it's probably a better approach than the one I'm going to use. On the other hand we have an opportunity here to explore the Daedra Princes' attitudes to sex. And I've always been irritated by the fact that, after you get appointed the champion of these god-like beings, they never seem to have any work for you.

 

Sapphire- she has only one unimportant quest Shadr's Debt and has no real function in the Theives Guild' date=' she also mentions being raped by bandits for a fortnight(2 weeks). I was thinking the Molag Bal idea could be an extension to why she got raped, because he was gonna reward those bandits for setting up a shrine at that pig farm, but she killed them. And as a quest reward for "converting" her through rape and slavery, she could serve you by stealing gems for you for free and submitting her soul to Molag Bal so he gets her soul when she dies. Since he is the Harvester of Souls.

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You got a nasty mind, you do. I like it

 

Still, I'm inclined to give the poor girl a break. You never know what patches or DLC might do with vanilla assets, and dealing lightly with them is good practice.

 

Hermaphrodites- I would do it myself but Blender doesn't work on my computer' date=' it crashes on startup after the command prompt. If I were to make a mod with the ideas i gave, would you include it in your mod?

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Probably as an addon. There are already plans afoot for an all-girl SSG. I can't see a problem with having an hermaphrodite/vampire guild as another option.

 

and thanks for your replies and considering my ideas

 

It was the least I could do really. They were good ideas.

 

I can't seem to get quest 1b started. Am I supposed to go to Chillfurow farm and look for Enarvy Sarayn? Coz I can't find him there.. and I didn't get any prompt after I finished the first mission' date=' although I chose to side with the slavers guild.

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That part isn't written yet, sorry. Currently there's just the one quest.

[scepth]

That part isn't written yet' date=' sorry. Currently there's just the one quest.

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D'oh! >w<

 

Its still pretty well made though. I hope Fuzrodoh gets an update in the future coz there was a couple of lines that skipped when I was talking to Balgruf and I think a line from Enarvy Sarayn.

[hogit]

@DocClock

I see what you mean and it makes since to leave her alone.

thanks again though for considering my ideas, I can't wait to see where this mod goes

[Daguy]

With Dawnguard, I was just lookign through the SSG wiki for content planned with Vampires in mind.

 

I read 'The Vampire Queen' (http://www.necavi.org/slavers/index.php/The_Vampire_Queen) and it looked interesting, but only from a slavers POV. I thought I might aswell offer another point of view. Perhaps if you are not a Slaver and just stumble upon the 'quest'/location she would not release you at the end. Instead, you could be enslaved by her as cattle and a pleasure slave. After the whole stripping you and draining you, things went along as normal. The keeping you drained and weak part could also be a good way of keeping you 'shackled' without shackles.

 

No slave is going to want to fight their way out of a cave of vampires, or even sneak, if they have to travel cold and naked across Skyrim with 5%/10% health. Plus, blood loss makes you more succeptable to the cold.

 

It would be fun - and if you were either good or bad it could be a method of becoming a Vampire yourself without doing the DLC or getting beaten on by some random vamp while training restoration. It could be a punishment to ensure obedience or a reward for good behavior, depending on how you acted. There really arn't enough alternate ways for certain thngs to happen in the vanilla game. I see this as a fairly realistic way to become a vampire personally, in the setting.

 

Just an idea of the opposing view. As i've always said, having my PC be the slave has always interested me more than being a slaver. So all I can do is offer my thoughts. =P

 

 

On the reason i started searching, are there any special plans for PC's who get enslaved or happen to be vampires at the time? Necromancers would likely see them as the ultimate slave/prize, and easily controlled with magic and blood. Some might even find them appealing because as long as they are kept fed they will never change appearance or age, and they have definate weaknesses to use against them if they are defiant. The 'easy blood' might even be enough to keep some vampires semi-willing.

[DocClox]

Perhaps if you are not a Slaver and just stumble upon the 'quest'/location she would not release you at the end. Instead' date=' you could be enslaved by her as cattle and a pleasure slave. After the whole stripping you and draining you, things went along as normal. The keeping you drained and weak part could also be a good way of keeping you 'shackled' without shackles.

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Sounds workable. Would fit in with the system of buying privileges through good behavior as well. You could start off as just another bloodbag chained in a cattle pen, and earn the status of pleasure slave.

 

Come to think of it, vampirism could be on the tariff too.

 

No slave is going to want to fight their way out of a cave of vampires' date=' or even sneak, if they have to travel cold and naked across Skyrim with 5%/10% health. Plus, blood loss makes you more succeptable to the cold.

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That could fit well with MsL's idea that vampiric wounds heal slowly as well. If you escape with your health in single figures, you'd need to make most of the journey in that state.

 

if you were either good or bad it could be a method of becoming a Vampire yourself without doing the DLC or getting beaten on by some random vamp while training restoration.

 

Way ahead of me I see. Though I can't see you being turned for being bad. It might happen if you particularly pleased them though. Whether you wanted it or not. Then we need to think about the level of control a master vampire can exercise over his progeny/

 

On the reason i started searching' date=' are there any special plans for PC's who get enslaved or happen to be vampires at the time? Necromancers would likely see them as the ultimate slave/prize, and easily controlled with magic and blood. Some might even find them appealing because as long as they are kept fed they will never change appearance or age, and they have definate weaknesses to use against them if they are defiant. The 'easy blood' might even be enough to keep some vampires semi-willing.

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I think vampires would be a lot harder to keep controlled as a slaver, which probably means they get an easier time as a slave. The downside for a vampire slave is that blood hunger can be used against you. You're more likely to capitulate if you're at stage 3 and there's blood offered as a reward.

 

Mind, if they misjudge it and you go over into stage 4, that would give you a huge temporary boost to pride, and probably leave it raised permanently as well.

 

As for the market for vampire slaves... speaking as a slaver, I always wanted to open a vampire brothel. Stocked with well behaved vampire slaves. I can imagine an NPC doing something similar. Of course, the vivisection option works well too

[jhondidfool]

As for the market for vampire slaves... speaking as a slaver' date=' I always wanted to open a vampire brothel. Stocked with well behaved vampire slaves. I can imagine an NPC doing something similar. Of course, the vivisection option works well too

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Geralt of Rivia much?

[DocClox]

Geralt of Rivia much?

 

Possibly, which one? I've read a few of the stories, played the first game, and ran out of steam running round the swamps in the second one. Don't remember any slave vampire brothels offhand.

 

Mind it wouldn't be the first time my subconscious threw up something as inspiration that I'd actually read some time earlier.

[DirkJag]

Mind it wouldn't be the first time my subconscious threw up something as inspiration that I'd actually read some time earlier.

That's pretty normal.

[jhondidfool]

Geralt of Rivia much?

 

Possibly' date=' which one? I've read a few of the stories, played the first game, and ran out of steam running round the swamps in the second one. Don't remember any slave vampire brothels offhand.

 

Mind it wouldn't be the first time my subconscious threw up something as inspiration that I'd actually read some time earlier.

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First game. Vampire brothel in the rich district.

[00ptic]

Mind it wouldn't be the first time my subconscious threw up something as inspiration that I'd actually read some time earlier.

That's pretty normal.

 

"The secret to creativity is to forget where you heard it."

 

I forget who said this.

 

Anyway, how exactly could you control all those vampires? I know if they were werewolves you could simply take the position of the alpha, but I don't think vampires are like that.

[mizreg]

Did you know 19% of the French population is allergic to peanuts??????

[mizreg]

Also I think you couldn't take the position of a werewolf alpha without being a werewolf yourself, and to some players that can be a problem.

[sammythesquirrel]

Mind it wouldn't be the first time my subconscious threw up something as inspiration that I'd actually read some time earlier.

That's pretty normal.

 

"The secret to creativity is to forget where you heard it."

 

I forget who said this.

 

Anyway' date=' how exactly could you control all those vampires? I know if they were werewolves you could simply take the position of the alpha, but I don't think vampires are like that.

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in most stories the more powerful vampire will feed on the weaker then inject a small amount of their own blood and use it to create a mark on or with in the servant the mark the gives the master access to the servants mind and the ability to control them like puppets

[lilbooth]

in most stories the more powerful vampire will feed on the weaker then inject a small amount of their own blood and use it to create a mark on or with in the servant the mark the gives the master access to the servants mind and the ability to control them like puppets

 

Well the puppet idea sounds more like a vampire's Drudge, who is generally a human servant, they are essentially hard wired to do anything their vampire master says, which is usually offering their blood. Many diffirent stories have methods of creating a drudge but the generally accepted one is to bite the human but not drink, which is extreemly difficult, doing so agian frees them from your orders.

 

The method of creating a vampire, unless you'd like to consider the Pravus Prophecy, is via a blood transfusion and a naming. A vampire gives their drudge (or a diffirent willing human) their blood and enscribes a name for them upon their wrist (or any other body part), their name later becomes important for creating runes and glyphs to claim personal items and block other vampires from trespassing. The original vampire becomes the father or mother to the person they gave blood to and they gain slight control over their actions and they can communicate telepathicly, however with practice any vampire can achieve these skills, it is considered impolite to use them on other vampires though.

[Troubadour]

Hmm...sorry for the noob question here but i find all kinda patch files...but where is the main file

 

keep up the great work

[lilbooth]

Hmm...sorry for the noob question here but i find all kinda patch files...but where is the main file

 

keep up the great work

 

Well you'll need everything listed in the download version of this thread. You can find an alpha version of npc capture on the Skyrim Slaver Guild Release Page. I think you still need to manually insert the attached files in post #2241 on page 225.

[DocClox]

"The secret to creativity is to forget where you heard it."

 

My creativity has been working overtime in which case.

 

I forget who said this.

 

Very good

 

Anyway' date=' how exactly could you control all those vampires? I know if they were werewolves you could simply take the position of the alpha, but I don't think vampires are like that.

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I think vampires can be controlled in much the same way as human slaves. You can break their will and train them to obey. They're just harder to keep prisoner up to that point; all those vampy powers give them interesting ways to escape.

 

They also tend to recover their pride faster than normal humans.

 

Of course if we have vampires who can turn to mist or whatever, it gets harder.

 

Also I think you couldn't take the position of a werewolf alpha without being a werewolf yourself' date=' and to some players that can be a problem.

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Silver in their collar and low level wolvesbane poisoning. That should keep them from transforming.

 

in most stories the more powerful vampire will feed on the weaker then inject a small amount of their own blood and use it to create a mark on or with in the servant the mark the gives the master access to the servants mind and the ability to control them like puppets

 

Now' date=' a vampire slaver has some more options, of course. I'm probably not going to expand greatly on how vampires make human thralls. It's probably not a good basis for slave training anyway.

 

I'm interested in vampires controlling vampires by means of blood though. The obvious case is a sire and a new fledgeling. I might think about expanding that a little.

 

Well the puppet idea sounds more like a vampire's Drudge, who is generally a human servant, they are essentially hard wired to do anything their vampire master says, which is usually offering their blood. Many diffirent stories have methods of creating a drudge but the generally accepted one is to bite the human but not drink, which is extreemly difficult, doing so agian frees them from your orders.

 

The trouble is that there's so much divergent vampire lore. I think I'd tend to stick to TES vampire lore where possible, maybe with the odd touch of Bram Stoker thrown in. So I'd probably go for the vampire making his victim drink the vampire's blood, but without draining her to the point of death. It seemed to work reasonably well with Mina anyway.

 

The method of creating a vampire' date=' unless you'd like to consider the Pravus Prophecy, is via a blood transfusion and a naming. A vampire gives their drudge (or a diffirent willing human) their blood and enscribes a name for them upon their wrist (or any other body part), their name later becomes important for creating runes and glyphs to claim personal items and block other vampires from trespassing.

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Interesting stuff. I've not come across any of this before. What's the source?

 

Hmm...sorry for the noob question here but i find all kinda patch files...but where is the main file

 

keep up the great work

 

Well you'll need everything listed in the download version of this thread. You can find an alpha version of npc capture on the Skyrim Slaver Guild Release Page. I think you still need to manually insert the attached files in post #2241 on page 225.

 

I think that was a misunderstanding. The file on the download thread should be standalone. I don't know anything that's missing from it.

 

If it really does need another file to work right, I want to bundle the missing files in the main download.

[00ptic]

Hmm... I actually don't see vampires recovering their pride faster. I think that they would literally never get over being broken by something as weak as a mortal, and remain in the initial broken state forever. But at the same time I don't see them getting to that point without a LOT of work. I also would imagine they have much higher initial pride, since many (especially the older ones) consider themselves to be royalty, gods or at least above humans (and those damned wolves!).

[Queen Bee]

Doc, you absolutely MUST put in an NPC in charge of vampire slaves and call her Buffy the Vampire Slaver. XD

[Deep Red]

Hmmmm, blood sucking + slavery + sex.... kinky, but fucking awesome. I'm all for vampire slaves. Time to put those arrogant little pricks in their place!