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Posted

there should probably be more actual content released before we start talking about a sub-board for SSG

Posted

there should probably be more actual content released before we start talking about a sub-board for SSG

 

Maybe, but it would be easier to start working on further content if the current information was sorted so it was easier to find/access

 

Regardless, thats still upto the admins and the Doc

Posted

mehrunes dagon would try to manipulate the situation to kill of as many of the other deadrics as possible... and while they are fighting amongst themselves, he would try to regain something from all the asskicking he has gotten and maybe do some of his own indirectly.

 

or depose another to move into a different part of the pecking order instead of the butt end.

Posted

OK' date=' it seems we can relax. Wikia got back to me.

 

 

 

Hello,

 

Thanks for contacting Wikia. I know that the decision to close a wiki can be difficult to come to grips with. I appreciate the calm and respectful tenor of your email, and I will do my best to answer your questions.

 

1. Why was the wiki closed? Our Terms of Use provide the baseline for the type of content we disallow. Specifically, users can't "Post or transmit any content that is obscene, pornographic, abusive, offensive, profane, or otherwise violates any law or right of any third party, or content that contains homophobia, ethnic slurs, religious intolerance, or encourages criminal conduct." Ultimately, Wikia determines where the line is drawn.

 

I appreciate that you flagged the content as potentially offensive and provided warnings to readers, but that doesn't change the nature of the content. The images and text descriptions were beyond our limit of acceptable content. Trying to keep our network as free of the glorification of rape is something we can take pride in.

 

2. The decision wasn't made lightly, and it came after serious internal discussion. We considered possible ways to compromise and work with you to keep the wiki around. We eventually determined that there is no way a wiki dedicated to the mod you described would fit in with our Terms of Use. I am sorry.

 

3. Your request for the data from the wiki is perfectly fair, and I am happy to provide it for you. The data dump should appear at http://wikistats.wikia.com/s/sk/skyrimslavers/ within the next 24 hours. please let me know if you have any problems.

 

 

 

I think that's fair, really. It is their line to draw at the end of the day. And we're getting our data back, which is the most important thing.

 

 

I'd just like to add another BIG thank you to GHJKL, ladderbag, Windu and everyone else who worked so hard to provide us with a safety net. You guys are fantastic, and saved copies of stuff I'd forgotten I even needed. I can't thank you enough.

 

I think I'm going to send a thank-you note, and then turn in. It's been a hell of day, all of a sudden :)

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Now don't forget to download the datadump :D

Posted

I ws halfway though this reply when all hell broke loose yesterday...

 

Two things I've thought about' date=' one is on the PC will be marked up with something set if you fail something quest. with something markings, collar, burner marking between his legs. so that nps not want to trade or even let the PC in or send her to jail if she try to buy some things from them. and only low life would rape or do sexual things to the PC.

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Yeah, I want to be able to add tatoos and brands, certainly. The effect of a slave brand on the PC's relations with NPCs will depend on how the guild is viewed overall.

 

We might have other faction specific things as well. I have one request from a list regular who'd like (among other things) her empire-supporting PC to be branded on the cheek with the Stormcloak emblem if Ulfric's men ever capture her. Brands like that would alter behavior for the faction involved.

 

Second' date=' if it were possible to have an An Alternative Start where Pc is already enslaved and broken. slave to a monster

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That would be one to handle the Lord Sload quest. It should also be doable to wake up in the SW cells with amnesia (cliched, but gets the job done). Other options would be starting in Cidnah mine or somewere very like it, used as a lab animal by some research minded black mages, or kept as a bloodcow by a coven of vamps.

 

Not promising any of that any time soon, but all could be fun.

 

Are there any plans to incorporate deadric princes in the quests' date=' there are some who fit quite well. As a bonus they are also each others enemies. This could make for some interesting factions within the guild maybe?

 

Mephala VS. Molag Bal?

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In general, I want to try and create a deadric quest for each of the princes. The attitudes of the deadra to sex hasn't been well explored on the whole, and I'd like a quest for each of them that looks at the way the prince's interests intersect with the business of the SSG.

 

 

Are there any plans to incorporate deadric princes in the quests' date=' there are some who fit quite well.

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Short answer: yes

Long answer: Look back through a bunch of the earlier pages.

 

 

I was going to put up a wiki page on the subject today, but that ... might have to wait a little longer :)

 

I've got some decent ideas for Molag Bal, Sanguine, Hircine, Hermeaus Mora, Clavicus Vile, Sheogorath and Vaermina. Mephala sounds like an easy one as well, now that the "Sex, Lies and Videotape" aspect has been brought to my attention.

 

Most of the others I have some sort of idea. The ones that I draw a blank on are Azura and Malacath are the ones who really leave me stumped.

 

how about we take some of the deadric princes and give them factions within the guild...such as dibella followers who deal with pleasure slaves...followers of hircine for the slavers who excell at capturing the raw slaves...dagon followers who can break a slave quicker...molag bhaal followers could be generalists good at all but specializing in nothing...mephala followers could be good at secretly tranporting the slaves...

 

It's a good idea' date=' but I don't think we'll have enough named guild members to do the job well.

 

I might add a shrine to the guild HQ for each prince for whom the PC completes a second quest. Then you could maybe pray at the shrine and receive a blessing from that prince. Guild NPCs would have their preferred shrines as well, and benefit from the bonus if the shrine is present.

 

it could be usefull (if possiable) to give players of SSG a choice in how they want to play the mod from hardcore badass to typical middle of the road slaver, niether evil or caring, who just gets the job done to tender caring master who will nurture and guide his slaves

 

That's sort of in the pipeline. The PC is going to be the de facto leader of the guild by the time Secunda's Watch is up and running, and it'll be formalised somewhere around the time of moving in to Riften. I plan on making it possible to set policy for the treatment of slaves. Not sure of the details yet.

 

Awh I dunno... would Mehrunes be more the top or the bottom? ^^ For me he always was such a poor thing! His very existence is actually a curse forcing him to act against his nature (he wanted to save Mundus from Alduin but was cursed to become the prince of destruction instead)' date=' everything he has ever tried either ended in a spectacular failure or came back to stab (or bite) him in the end and other Daedric Princes are always having so much fun at his expense! He got the job against his will and I think he really just wants to be a happy little leaper demon again...

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I think so to. But I have problems reconciling the happy little leaper demon with the Prince who claimed Mundus as his rightful home. Of course Mankar Cameron may not be the most reliable authority on the matter.

 

Mehrunes Dagon. There's another problematic one. If he wanted something from the guild it would probably be something nasty. Like keep 20 slaves impaled on spikes outside SW. Give the guild a blessing of some sort as long as the numbers were maintained, but at the expense of a shocking drain of guild rep with Skyrim as a whole.

 

I'm not sure I want to do that one. I have very mixed feelings when it comes to guro type stuff, but I can't imagine what else he'd want.

 

Maybe some princes don't have anything in common with the guild after all. Or maybe some of them would side with the slaves. It's easy to see where Azura and Malacath fit in if they're slave patrons. Maybe the PC could get some bonus if one of the conditions was that the slaves were to be allowed to worship the prince in question. But that would need to be a side condition: we'd still need a quest, so no further forward.

 

lol...i had to laugh...Mehrunes dagon the prince of...brat slaves...those slaves who cant but help acting out...of course all done to incite "master" into "punishing" them thus giving them the very thing they desire...interesting take on it...and more so because it rings true...

 

Put like that ...

 

Awh... it's such a shame! the wiki was a really great way to keep everything organised! But I'm happy that at least the data is safe! I was really worried' date=' there's so much stuff I haven't read yet ^^

 

But now where will it all go? Maybe SSG could have its own board like Lovers?

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and...

 

there should probably be more actual content released before we start talking about a sub-board for SSG

 

Maybe' date=' but it would be easier to start working on further content if the current information was sorted so it was easier to find/access

 

Regardless, thats still upto the admins and the Doc

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I'd like a sub forum, but it would feel really presumptious to ask without a decent body of work created. CLS and Sexout were both well established before they got their own board.

 

The other possibility is to get a forum of our own. I'd sooner stay with LL if we can.

 

Meanwhile, there are a couple of possibilities for a new wiki. Let's see how that pans out.

 

mehrunes dagon would try to manipulate the situation to kill of as many of the other deadrics as possible... and while they are fighting amongst themselves' date=' he would try to regain something from all the asskicking he has gotten and maybe do some of his own indirectly.

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Bit outside the scope of what we have planned though. That's a plot for TESVI, that is :)

 

Now don't forget to download the datadump :D

 

Trying at 60 minute intervals :)

 

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Thinking on Mehrunes Dagon.

 

His destruction plots tend to work by corrupting the big political structures on Nirn. So he backed Jagar Tharn, wiped out the Septims, etc...

 

So: if he follows the pattern, who would he want brought low this era? The obvious candidates are already at one another throats in the Civil War (and probably causing all the destruction MD could want). So who might he want the SSG to compromise.

 

The Vigilants of Stendar are the obvious ones, but we already gave them a bloody nose back when we talked about getting a dark seducer to corrupt a vigilant, and MsLeeches started channeling Sheogorath, to the general alarm of the thread :)

 

If not the vigilants though, then who? I do have plans for a quest to re-sexualise the Dibella temple, but I'm not sure that's MD's style.

Posted

Hmm' date=' what happened to the Wiki?

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It was taken down unfortunately, but all the data was backed up by some heroic individuals, and now it can be found here on some of the more recent posts under the 'Spoiler' tags

Posted

 

Are there any plans to incorporate deadric princes in the quests' date=' there are some who fit quite well.

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Short answer: yes

Long answer: Look back through a bunch of the earlier pages.

 

 

I was going to put up a wiki page on the subject today, but that ... might have to wait a little longer :)

 

I've got some decent ideas for Molag Bal, Sanguine, Hircine, Hermeaus Mora, Clavicus Vile, Sheogorath and Vaermina. Mephala sounds like an easy one as well, now that the "Sex, Lies and Videotape" aspect has been brought to my attention.

 

Most of the others I have some sort of idea. The ones that I draw a blank on are Azura and Malacath are the ones who really leave me stumped.

 

 

 

How about this for Azura?

 

 

Azura's roses.

 

An follower of Azura, who was greatly trusted by her has betrayed her.

As known of Azura she is mostly what is seen benelovent.

However when angered her revenge is strict.

 

The follower has used the trust that Azura put in her to enter the

realm of Azura in a meditative state. There she was able to grab hold of

one of the most beatifull roses that azura had and severed the (meditative)

conection to azura's realm, somehow taking this rose with her.

 

She has fashioned this rose in a powerfull staff through which she's capable to

gain a conection to the realm of azura. Using this connection she is granted

visions like those of azura herself.

 

She already was one of the most powerfull wizards but with this staff

she added an absolute defense to her repetoire. As she now is able to forsee

any attacks that will be made against her. Her only shortcoming is that she

is still mortal and not a deadra and certaily not a god.

This has certain drawbacks for her. She is able to forsee everything in the world

but this gives too much of a strain on her mental wellbeing that she has chosen

to retreat into an tower which is protected by massive spellprotections.

And great number of traps And of course by herself. But why would she install

loads of traps when she alone would be enough? Because mortals need sleep.

She is (rightfully) paranoid that azura will enact her vengeange.

Therefore she sleeps only X (two) hours a day.

 

(Make it that "set timescale to" is equal for everyone here)

 

When she is awake she notices anyone and anything in the tower.

Being the great mage that she is she will be able to attack anyone inside the

tower with an endless number of summons or a smaller number of summons but invinceble

untill the player/everyone in the tower is dead or has fled from the tower.

(she doesn't stop for folowers in bleedout so don't take them.)

So when she awakes you have to abbandon the tower and quest for that day.

 

But that is not all, She uses the staff She stores the exessive energy in the

flower itself which can be drawn out in times of emergency

(might act as a potion of mana which is useable once a day?)

 

Even now she uses the staff in hopes to accend to godhood, she loved a single

rose more than her goddess. I am angry with her but if she loves flowers so much

I know a fitting punnishment. With the voice from her mouth she sang my praise,

She however became wet from the tought of the power she could get

Take this little rose seed and insert it in that lower mouth which made her betray me.

With my power I have made it so that it is not visible in her visions.

When it is placed in her vagina it will take some of her magic power over time but not enough

to make her notice, only enough to grow. However the energy that she stores into her rosestaff

will be mostly absorbed by the seed instead of her staff. If you have placed the seed begone from the tower before she wakes up.

 

After this Azura will be pleased with you and tell you to wait a little while (maybe go back sometime to hear her wonder why she has stomachcramps, something feels moving inside etc.)

After this Wait Azura Will send a messenger to you (one of the balls from ygnol barrow)

It tells you that it is time for you to get your reward.

 

Azura tells you that she is pleased with what you have done and that she has spoken to her ex follower.

Her anger was appeased And her follower has in exchange for keeping her life made some minor alterations to the staff

So you could use it.

 

When you arive you see that her exfollower has been restrained by a number of vines.

While from inside of her a (rapeflower/rapevine/something similar) is growing from her.

(Or have her changed in something like a roper with vines)

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You now get the staff from her and she explains what has been changed, The visions that would have been too much to handle

have been replaced by simpeler visions. The staff now makes it possible to see

-That epends on what is possible, maybe if a person is Sado or Maso, maybe if a person is someone who would capture/sell you, maybe an clairvoyance to a defensless girl walking outside?-

Also since the staff is still living it will bring seeds. The seeds it grows has the same effect as the seed implanted in me

When you pickpocket this seed into someone sleeping she will grow into another (rapeflower/rapevine/something similar)

If you were able to picpocket me but for some reason you aren't able to preform the same feat on other persons.

you could also insert it with force if you are in a position to do so. (subject is in bleedout, paralyzed, (intimidated?) or restrained)

However the seeds grow very slowly onely one seed in X day's

 

The lighyball from Ygnol now speaks again with the voice of azura. She can no longer call herself my follower and I would not have done anything for her to ease her ordeal.

However what grows inside hr is one of my lovely roses and I would not want it to live it such a lonely live. Therefore if you could sometimes bring her some girls to speak with and for my little flower to have some fun with I would be gratefull.

 

The End

 

-If the tower is acceptable it would be awesome to make it an slaversbase or playerhome-

 

 

Posted

Wish I had your patience Doc.

 

Anyone figured out how to get the PC to use the wall shackles yet? Doesn't seem to work as part of a scene with the player AI driven.

Posted

Re. Malacath, from the little I know it strikes me that he isn't going to be pro slavery, being a patron of the spurned and outcasts. I think a plot hook where he helps a slave or some slaves endure their lot until they can get revenge on the slavers or escape might work. Maybe something like him helping the female cast of Birthday Girl turn the tables on Tolfdir (not sure if thats the right name) for his treachery, sometime after the events of Birthday Girl. Any slaver including the pc is going to be fair game for a hefty dose of revenge from Malacaths perspective.

Posted

Re. Malacath' date=' from the little I know it strikes me that he isn't going to be pro slavery, being a patron of the spurned and outcasts. I think a plot hook where he helps a slave or some slaves endure their lot until they can get revenge on the slavers or escape might work. Maybe something like him helping the female cast of Birthday Girl turn the tables on Tolfdir (not sure if thats the right name) for his treachery, sometime after the events of Birthday Girl. Any slaver including the pc is going to be fair game for a hefty dose of revenge from Malacaths perspective.

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Probably he would want revenge only if you would enslave ogres trolls or maybe orcs.

He wouldn't care for humans and non-orc elves.

Posted

Hey there doc, sorry about the wiki. On another note, did you manage to get anything useful out of the files I sent you?

Posted

Hey there doc' date=' sorry about the wiki. On another note, did you manage to get anything useful out of the files I sent you? [/quote']

 

Yeah thanks. I've been playing with it all weekend and it seems to be fairly robust.

 

I've done some tweaking on your scripts, mainly breaking down some of those epic nested ifs and whiles so it's easier to see what's what. I also tried to set a new outfit for some bandits and failed dismally. And I was thinking about adding a sexual abuse option, but didn't get that far what with vanishing wikis and all the rest. I did get as far as making them get naked. I can't understand why the collars aren't equipping.

 

I'll send you the modified scripts back if you're interested.

Posted

Hi people!

 

So reading through this thread, I am frankly amazed at what you're all working on. I'd love to help, is there some way I can get involved?

Posted

Regarding the wiki:

Hosting comes pretty cheap nowadays, I'm willing to help you set up a MediaWiki if you want to go that route.

Posted

Doc, instead of a wiki you might want to look into Blogger, I know users couldn't change anything you wrote like with a wiki but it lots of "disturbing" sites use Blogger.

And most (all?) other free options dissalow pornographic/lewd content.

 

Though blogger does not allow bestiality or incest... (I would link to it but I apparently can only get the TOS in Dutch)

I think it's the best option right now.

Posted

goddamn ballz cracking butt munchers...

damn wikia, damn them i say.

 

nothing like having to re-organize and redo half the scripting etc. at least i can get most of it copied from this thread.

Posted

You could also try Scratchpad' date=' it's a free wikia site, and I don't think they've ever complained about adult content.

http://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/Scratchpad

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But its still hosted by Wikia, who closed down the wiki in the first place.

 

However, Doc told me in the IRC channel that he might get a wiki of his own from one of the other team members there.

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