[WIP] Skyrim Slavers Guild

[cloudwild]

Hey doc about some moves to brake the girls into slave how about some of the moves from here http://oblivionarmors.blogspot.com/?zx=1939932bd380901f there from oblivion but someone with yer talent could port them with the permision of the author of coures

[DocClox]

If I play a vanilla quest and need to kill a boss in a cave for exemple. What happen if I enslave her' date=' will the quest be finished ? Or will the enslavement break the quest ?

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Good question. Probably you'll break the quest. That said, I have it in mind to copy and kill some NPCs - mainly to get persistent, non-respawning versions of leveled actors. If that works (and I've not had a chance to try it yet) then it could be used to make sure that quest NPCs die for purposes of quest completion.

 

We'll see how it goes.

 

Do you know if it will be possible to start the slavery mod with a character at level 1?

I'd like to do the Skyrim quests' date=' discover the game, with the slavery options.

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Should be. Most of the mod won't kick in until you've encountered Teija, although I'll probably leave the combat yield options active from the start.

 

Long description: Iizluft lives in a comfortable palace' date=' somewhere in mountains of the Pale. His palace is filled with young enslaved girls. His preferred way of enslavement is the use of patience, rather than force. This results in slaves that are utterly devoted to him. The fact Iizluft can come over as extremely charming certainly helps.

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Hmmm... let's call the unaltered Falmer "Snow Elves" and the modern versions "Falmer". I know they're both the same thing, technically.

 

That sounds like a cool NPC to have around. I want to hang fire on having unchanged Snow Elves though. Mainly because I have a feeling they may be the subject of a forthcoming DLC.

 

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Nearly forgot: Screenshots

 

Most of them have been on here before. I have some more kicking around that I'll add to the page later on.

[Princessity]

Nearly forgot: Screenshots

 

Most of them have been on here before. I have some more kicking around that I'll add to the page later on.

 

~~Leeches stares at the "other" mask in total awe!~~

 

How did you KNOW I was dreaming of giving my character a mask exactly like this! WAAAANT! ^^

[Dark_Lord_]

 

Hmmm... let's call the unaltered Falmer "Snow Elves" and the modern versions "Falmer". I know they're both the same thing' date=' technically.

 

That sounds like a cool NPC to have around. I want to hang fire on having unchanged Snow Elves though. Mainly because I have a feeling they may be the subject of a forthcoming DLC.

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I could write a section about him in the wiki.

I mainly came up with this guy, because I felt the Slavers Guild needed a gentle hand, to balance out all the cruel members. I kind of imagine him as an eccentric but charming noble. And the type who can simply say ask a woman 'may I take you to my castle to enslave you' and still gets his way.

 

If him being an unchanged Snow Elf is a bit tricky to fit into the lore, we could also make him a High/Dark elf with Falmer DNA in his lineage.

[00ptic]

 

Hmmm... let's call the unaltered Falmer "Snow Elves" and the modern versions "Falmer". I know they're both the same thing' date=' technically.

 

That sounds like a cool NPC to have around. I want to hang fire on having unchanged Snow Elves though. Mainly because I have a feeling they may be the subject of a forthcoming DLC.

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I could write a section about him in the wiki.

I mainly came up with this guy, because I felt the Slavers Guild needed a gentle hand, to balance out all the cruel members. I kind of imagine him as an eccentric but charming noble. And the type who can simply say ask a woman 'may I take you to my castle to enslave you' and still gets his way.

 

If him being an unchanged Snow Elf is a bit tricky to fit into the lore, we could also make him a High/Dark elf with Falmer DNA in his lineage.

 

On my necromancer, I intend to kill and resurrect most NPCs related to the slavers such as this one. That way, when the time comes that someone suggests they betray me, all the others will simply groan "Ughhhh..." In a way, you could run the guild without actually being the master. And the only thing worse than a slaver is a zombie slaver.

[cnsnlze]

wow,he look so GOOD

[Saigas]

I'm noticing a distinct lack of one particular bit on the wiki, a bit that I'm fairly certain was discussed during the early conception of the DASTARD. Specifically, PC/NPC gender alteration. Is there no longer going to be any "male PC/NPC can be captured, taken to the DASTARD and subsequently be turned female through magical pseudo-science"?

 

I only ask because it's a concept I have always found intriguing (I'm a fan of Ranma 1/2 and similar fictional works dealing with gender reversal), and if it is at all feasible, I think it would be nice to at least have an optional selection in the mod for PC/NPC males to be turned into females and enslaved.

[sbseed]

I'm noticing a distinct lack of one particular bit on the wiki' date=' a bit that I'm fairly certain was discussed during the early conception of the DASTARD. Specifically, PC/NPC gender alteration. Is there no longer going to be any "male PC/NPC can be captured, taken to the DASTARD and subsequently be turned female through magical pseudo-science"?

 

I only ask because it's a concept I have always found intriguing (I'm a fan of Ranma 1/2 and similar fictional works dealing with gender reversal), and if it is at all feasible, I think it would be nice to at least have an optional selection in the mod for PC/NPC males to be turned into females and enslaved.

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yes there will be both male/female npc's all around... no longer will there be unisex... same goes for most (if not all) of the creatures in skyrim. should be possible to come up with a extremely rare and/or heavily gaurded spell that can change the sex of anything from its original to the opposing (except for in the case of Futa type)...

 

personally i would add it as a optional quest line to find the spell and either learn it yourself or bring it back to the current leader of the SG... that way it fits into gaming in general and the SG as well.

i will also add that to one of the enable/disable options for our version of the MCM.

[Saigas]

 

yes there will be both male/female npc's all around... no longer will there be unisex... same goes for most (if not all) of the creatures in skyrim. should be possible to come up with a extremely rare and/or heavily gaurded spell that can change the sex of anything from its original to the opposing (except for in the case of Futa type)...

 

personally i would add it as a optional quest line to find the spell and either learn it yourself or bring it back to the current leader of the SG... that way it fits into gaming in general and the SG as well.

i will also add that to one of the enable/disable options for our version of the MCM.

 

Sounds good' date=' though a "spell" you find wasn't exactly what I meant. I was thinking more along the lines of a questline related sort of thing, where a male PC/NPC would, once captured, be shoved into a bodymould or a vat of chemicals that result in a transformation. Less of a:

 

[i']"Let me shoot you with this convenient genderswap spell I found while adventuring."[/i]

 

...and more of a:

 

"Through the mysterious powers of ancient Dwemeri technology, you have somehow been transformed into a woman by your captors. What they intend to do with you now isn't hard to guess..."

 

Either way, it sounds like you guys are doing a bang-up job on all of this. Keep up the good work!

[sbseed]

its harder to make it fit chemically with lore... potion wise.

it could be done by using some potion/chemicals or ingredience, and have a spell that 'activates the process' or something.

 

lore wise (according to skyrim or current) there isnt really anything expanding basic potions or allowing for new potions or rare specific potions... i suppose it could be done outright with no explanation or being lore friendly, dont know about other people but that kinda breaks the games feel for me(and i end up getting very bored very quickly with the gameplay session).

[Saigas]

its harder to make it fit chemically with lore... potion wise.

it could be done by using some potion/chemicals or ingredience' date=' and have a spell that 'activates the process' or something.

 

lore wise (according to skyrim or current) there isnt really anything expanding basic potions or allowing for new potions or rare specific potions... i suppose it could be done outright with no explanation or being lore friendly, dont know about other people but that kinda breaks the games feel for me(and i end up getting very bored very quickly with the gameplay session).

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Well, the DASTARD is Dwemeri technology. I have a hard time believing that just by acquiring the Heart of Lorkhan, the Dwemer created technology capable of making them (or someone else) into immortal demigods (it's the entire reason Dagoth Ur even has his power in Morrowind), yet they couldn't figure out a combination of chemicals and magic that could alter the sex of a simple commoner they've captured.

 

If the DASTARD isn't already considered "lore-breaking" in the context of Dwemer culture (being a fortress facotry designed to churn out sex slaves), I don't think a simple gender-altering bodymould or chemical vat is really going too far.

 

Then again, it's your guys' mod. I'm just making suggestions based on my own personal opinions and taste. I really appreciate that you're even discussing it with me at all, and I really appreciate the time and hard work you're putting into it to make the mod great.

[00ptic]

If I'm not mistaken, nothing happens in-game to change your gender. It's more of a: We're not currently designing a quest-line for enslaved males, and know that if you are enslaved, you will be female.

 

I'm not certain how male NPCs will be dealt with, presumably when caught they are out of your hands, at least until a system specifically for males is made.

[zebulous]

Get one of the daedric princes to cause the pc to gender swap. For a quest? Give them the option to change back afterward if they want.

 

Or, maybe one of the lesser daedra may see the slaver's guild as a means to increase its own standing. I guess it should be working for Molag Bal the little critter has ambition! After the pc gender swap, and possible reversal, the daedra's artifact could just be, yet another, staff. Then let the staff have the gender change ability.

 

You do realize you could be setting yourselves up to make a great many ugly women. Though if your guild has access to the dastard then it doesn't matter, they will all end up looking like the dwemer ideal anyway.

 

[Maphis2017]

Been lurking around here for awhile but I felt that I needed to say thanks for all the hard work you guys are putting into this ^^, it adds a very interesting aspect into the game. In a way it almost reminds me of how (the HBO)Game of Thrones adds in sex to the series, just in this case it is definitely a bit more sexualized sex... if that makes sense. In any case keep up the amazing work guys, I look forward to your creation. And not just because it adds an interesting aspect into the game bwahaha.

[Saigas]

Been lurking around here for awhile but I felt that I needed to say thanks for all the hard work you guys are putting into this ^^' date=' it adds a very interesting aspect into the game. In a way it almost reminds me of how (the HBO)Game of Thrones adds in sex to the series, just in this case it is definitely a bit more sexualized sex... if that makes sense. In any case keep up the amazing work guys, I look forward to your creation. And not just because it adds an interesting aspect into the game bwahaha.

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A little off topic, but if you think there wasn't sex in "Game of Thrones" until HBO made it into a television series, think again.

 

The books are chock full of sex, attempted/successful rape, and so on. And most of the characters involved in the sex are actually YOUNGER in the books. In fact, a lot of the stuff in HBO's series is a more tame than the original stuff simply because they had to age-up certain characters.

 

But your point is still valid. While the stuff the masterminds behind this mod are doing is much more...detailed...the addition of this sort of stuff adds wholes new layers of depth to the story of The Elder Scrolls, fun erotica or no.

 

Once again, thanks to Doc Clox and all the rest for their great efforts to bring us such an awesome mod! Looking forward to when we can actually start giving it a test run!

[toxic44]

The gender alteration does not really fit in this version of the sex slave business.

But the Dwemer could have a tool to extract the soul of a man and inject it in a woman body.

The training of a woman failed in the dastard, she is like a zombie, she needs a new soul/personality for a new training.

[Saigas]

The gender alteration does not really fit in this version of the sex slave business.

But the Dwemer could have a tool to extract the soul of a man and inject it in a woman body.

The training of a woman failed in the dastard' date=' she is like a zombie, she needs a new soul/personality for a new training.

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Considering the fact that Dwemeri technology specializes in souls, I find this to be an apt way of getting it done. If the training of a woman failed, or was too harsh, it might have killed her, or left her effectively brain-dead, maybe even corrupted her soul in the same manner that the Dwemer corrupted the Falmer's souls (they were once black, and are now white). Capturing the soul at time of death/disability (perhaps to power an automaton), they keep the now empty shell in storage, for possible use with a fresh soul.

 

That fresh soul could be the soul of a captured male PC/NPC.

[toxic44]

It could be a quest for a male pc slaver.

After an accident in the dastard the soul of a male pc slaver is injected in a woman body, the male body is stored in a warehouse.

The pc could could be trained in the dastard or sold to the falmers and trained with a training chaurus. As a slaver the pc kowns how to fake his submission. After being sold (in a woman body) the pc should escape and find back his male body.

 

Or the SG boss needs a slaver woman for some missions (to go undercover as a sex slave in a hidden amazon society). The PC has to change his body in the dastard, be trained and sold (that's the only way to do it). The pc (or the SG boss) could choose to use this woman body for other missions. At the end the SG boss would help the pc to get back his body.

 

[DocClox]

~~Leeches stares at the "other" mask in total awe!~~

 

How did you KNOW I was dreaming of giving my character a mask exactly like this! WAAAANT! ^^

 

I'd love to take credit' date=' but the kudos goes to Zaraia for the conception, and Aeon for execution.

 

I mainly came up with this guy, because I felt the Slavers Guild needed a gentle hand, to balance out all the cruel members. I kind of imagine him as an eccentric but charming noble. And the type who can simply say ask a woman 'may I take you to my castle to enslave you' and still gets his way.

 

OK, I can see the need for a gentler voice on the guild council. The execution seems a little over-the-top though, somehow.

 

Let me think about it a bit.

 

On my necromancer' date=' I intend to kill and resurrect most NPCs related to the slavers such as this one. That way, when the time comes that someone suggests they betray me, all the others will simply groan "Ughhhh..." In a way, you could run the guild without actually being the master. And the only thing worse than a slaver is a zombie slaver.

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Interesting. I wonder how that'll play with the AI packages. Do you have a particular necromancy mod in mind, or is this just hypothetical?

 

I'm noticing a distinct lack of one particular bit on the wiki' date=' a bit that I'm fairly certain was discussed during the early conception of the DASTARD. Specifically, PC/NPC gender alteration. Is there no longer going to be any "male PC/NPC can be captured, taken to the DASTARD and subsequently be turned female through magical pseudo-science"?

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I should start by saying that I'm not really a fan of TG in general.

 

My main concern was that if someone wanted to play a subbie male, then I was worried about what the DASTARD's face and body change would do to them. Mainly in terms of potential CTD from trying to force female morphs on a male mesh, really. There are also a few things that are going to happen to anyone going through the DASTARD that are biologically impossible for males, and I didn't particularly want to rethink the necessary parts of the quest. So the TG thing was a bit of a compromise.

 

So, there aren't currently any plans to dig deep into the whole TF/TG experience for the player. That said, I'm not adverse to someone adding some support for this ... but I'd maybe if we can wait until we get through Riften before we look at that in detail.

 

yes there will be both male/female npc's all around... no longer will there be unisex... same goes for most (if not all) of the creatures in skyrim. should be possible to come up with a extremely rare and/or heavily gaurded spell that can change the sex of anything from its original to the opposing (except for in the case of Futa type)...

 

Well' date=' I'm sure there will be TG mods. I hadn't planned on bundling any into SSG itself. Although some sort of bridging mod would be possible if someone did create such a questline.

 

 

its harder to make it fit chemically with lore... potion wise.

it could be done by using some potion/chemicals or ingredience' date=' and have a spell that 'activates the process' or something.

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If you were going to do it seriously (as opposed to the half-asseed hack I had in mind) I'd probably suggest having a static location and having a ritual to invoke a higher power. You know the sort of thing: standing stone circle, subject lying (or chained) to the altar. Column of light breaks through the clouds, rumble of distant thunder ...

 

If the DASTARD isn't already considered "lore-breaking" in the context of Dwemer culture (being a fortress facotry designed to churn out sex slaves)' date=' I don't think a simple gender-altering bodymould or chemical vat is really going too far.

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I think we're kind of on the edge with the DASTARD We know the Dwemer were slave-keepers, and fairly nasty ones at that. There's no evidence that there was anything particularly fetishistic about their slave-keeping, but none to the contrary either. I take the viewpoint that I'm just exploring a side of the Dwemer psyche that's been thus far ignored.

 

But if they were going to do such a thing, the DASTARD seems to be just their style. The race that tried to mechanize the process of attaining Godhood wouldn't flinch at a slave training factory

 

Then again' date=' it's your guys' mod. I'm just making suggestions based on my own personal opinions and taste. I really appreciate that you're even discussing it with me at all, and I really appreciate the time and hard work you're putting into it to make the mod great.

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Hey, no problem. It's an interesting question on several levels

 

You do realize you could be setting yourselves up to make a great many ugly women. Though if your guild has access to the dastard then it doesn't matter' date=' they will all end up looking like the dwemer ideal anyway.

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Well, ultimately I want the bodymoulds to give the SSG full access to the race menu controls. That said, this is going to need some as-yet unimplemented SKSE support. The necessary functions have been requested, but they're not implemented yet. So until they are, that part of the DASTARD remains more hypothetical than actual

 

Been lurking around here for awhile but I felt that I needed to say thanks for all the hard work you guys are putting into this ^^' date=' it adds a very interesting aspect into the game. In a way it almost reminds me of how (the HBO)Game of Thrones adds in sex to the series, just in this case it is definitely a bit more sexualized sex... if that makes sense. In any case keep up the amazing work guys, I look forward to your creation. And not just because it adds an interesting aspect into the game bwahaha.

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One of the things I really wanted to do with this was to have a questline that had sex as a central element, rather than just a handful of sex animations and a flimsy pretext. I'm glad that's coming across. And thanks for commenting

[Dark_Lord_]

OK' date=' I can see the need for a gentler voice on the guild council. The execution seems a little over-the-top though, somehow.

 

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I can see what you mean. Especially the charming females into slavery part. Perhaps if we tone him down in that most of his slaves are either troubled women he manipulated or former adversaries he gave 'mercy'.

 

I have also made up a possible recruitment quest. I will place it in the Wiki, so a you can take a look at it. It will also provide a detailed look at the character.

[DocClox]

OK' date=' I can see the need for a gentler voice on the guild council. The execution seems a little over-the-top though, somehow.

 

Let me think about it a bit.[/quote']

 

I can see what you mean. Especially the charming females into slavery part. Perhaps if we tone him down in that most of his slaves are either troubled women he manipulated or former adversaries he gave 'mercy'.

 

I have also made up a possible recruitment quest. I will place it in the Wiki, so a you can take a look at it. It will also provide a detailed look at the character.

 

All right, sold. I've got a few ideas on what we could do with him as well, but I'll comment on the wiki page

 

 

[jkarpynczyk]

When will slavers guild be released to the public?

[Nightasy]

When will slavers guild be released to the public?

 

Yea, I was wondering this as well. I wasn't sure but wasn't today one of the possible days for a beta release? I seemed to recall something about the 16th, maybe was a different mod. How's it coming along?

[Thelargir]

This is going to be awesome! How is the work coming along?

 

Got an idea when reading about "soulstealing" dwemer artifacts and stuff. How about being able to (as a slaver) take the souls of your slaves, and leaving their bodies as docile shells to be used for breeding, sextoys, furniture or whatever

As a female PC, this could potentially be a quest to escape and regain your own soul after having been captured by slavers. (Effectively making you "non-dragonborn" and not having the ability to shout, this would necessarily imply that the main quest can't be progressed until you regain your soul).

[DocClox]

When will slavers guild be released to the public?

 

Yea' date=' I was wondering this as well. I wasn't sure but wasn't today one of the possible days for a beta release? I seemed to recall something about the 16th, maybe was a different mod. How's it coming along?

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Bit of a delay, largely caused by me swtiching tracks to try and sort out a decent animation framework. The basics are there, JoshNZ has shared his "secret sauce" and all I need do now is work out what he meant

 

I'm also working on a compiler for behavior files so we don't need to depend on Fore recognising us a "serious modders" - something that probably isn't going to happen while he has me set on "ignore"

 

Got an idea when reading about "soulstealing" dwemer artifacts and stuff. How about being able to (as a slaver) take the souls of your slaves' date=' and leaving their bodies as docile shells to be used for breeding, sextoys, furniture or whatever

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We've kicked a few ideas around along those lines. In general, it sounds like fun thing to do from the PC slaver side of things. It'd be a bit powerful though, making all the training and breaking pretty much redundant, so it would need to be late in the questline.

 

In general, I think I prefer having slaves free to disobey and be punished to slaves that obey mindlessly, though. It makes them more interesting to my mind. And more satisfying to finally break.

 

As a female PC' date=' this could potentially be a quest to escape and regain your own soul after having been captured by slavers. (Effectively making you "non-dragonborn" and not having the ability to shout, this would necessarily imply that the main quest can't be progressed until you regain your soul).

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Definite potential there, I must admit.