cyanure Posted March 8, 2012 Posted March 8, 2012 I will need to check behind the ANK castle and top of the mountains to see the free space,and modeling of the lands just if!  Just an other dumb idea,that one for the anti Slavers  who is behind the anti slavers groups,why not use the cult of Thalos? the forbidden aedra?  purchased by the Talmor(who have the profiles to be perfect Slaver budy if they are not slaver themselves),they have that cult forbidden in the white gold concordat if I am not wrong there(nice trick to remove the problems for their buddy or themselves)  The Daedra are in side of the Slaver,so why not an Adrea on the anti slaver faction  Cult of Thalos is way more "fighter" than any others,and due to the Talmor act through proxy,fighting proxy...   Â
D_KNIGHT_PEN Posted March 8, 2012 Posted March 8, 2012 You know just as a thought why not have a quest where you infiltrate say the temple of Dibella and enslave the priestesses, maybe also make them "horny sluts." To me it sounds like a good way to get a foothold in one of the holds for the slaver guild.
lkl Posted March 8, 2012 Posted March 8, 2012 So far, nothing happened when I met Bonny =/ Was I supposed to download certain mods to get this working correctly? Or is that part a WIP?
D_KNIGHT_PEN Posted March 8, 2012 Posted March 8, 2012 Still WIP DocClox hasn't gotten everything for the quest worked out yet.
lkl Posted March 8, 2012 Posted March 8, 2012 I see, I guess I'll wait. Â For fun, you could add some evilness to the player that is a slaver, like giving a slave false hope - let em go, then hunt them down - let them out, ambush rape - 5minute luxury with false good intention, gang rape and taunt - grab their trust and friendship, beat and rape then (player's choice: kill or spare) Â Something like that or a little more sadistic, since most slavers i seen or heard usually do those kinds of things. Not sure if this suggestion is in the previous pages, as i didnt bother looking, but yeah just laying out a few suggestions. Â Â Â Â Â Â
Jerlis Posted March 8, 2012 Posted March 8, 2012 I see' date=' I guess I'll wait. Â For fun, you could add some evilness to the player that is a slaver, like giving a slave false hope - let em go, then hunt them down - let them out, ambush rape - 5minute luxury with false good intention, gang rape and taunt - grab their trust and friendship, beat and rape then (player's choice: kill or spare) Â Something like that or a little more sadistic, since most slavers i seen or heard usually do those kinds of things. Not sure if this suggestion is in the previous pages, as i didnt bother looking, but yeah just laying out a few suggestions. Â Â [/quote'] Â This but also for a PC slave
Krh Posted March 8, 2012 Posted March 8, 2012 Some thoughts on the "bandits must loot your stuff or expect to die" issue. Â As I understand the bleedout state and the overall state of the PC at the point where yield is demanded, she has already taken a severe beating. A normal person is not in any shape to fight back or retaliate anytime soon. Would the average bandit really see the PC as a threat anymore? Â Sure, the Dragonborn can flash some restoration magic and be fighting fit in no time, but is such magic common enough that enemies would expect it? Lydia sounds surprised when she receives healing, for example, and most magic-using NPCs only have offensive spells. Â Experienced, professional slavers would make sure the victim is and stays under control. Undisciplined bandits and such? They might very well think on the lines of "hurr hurr, taught her a lesson" and leave it at that.
cyanure Posted March 8, 2012 Posted March 8, 2012 eerrr....Doc,checked some more the ANK Castle and come with a "weird" things,base entry is okey with your mod,but that things extend way more than the "simple" entry,after some "no cliping travel",here are the two other parts of it,with a screenshot of the map to show you where they are,just to be sure it does not cut in with what You have done there(NO CHANGING A THING ON YOUR SIDE HERE!LOL) Â
DocClox Posted March 8, 2012 Author Posted March 8, 2012 who is behind the anti slavers groups' date='why not use the cult of Thalos? the forbidden aedra? [/quote']  Hmmm... I suppose...  I'm reluctant to turn the faction to an Aedra vs Daedra thing. Partly because I want to leave it to player choice who they align themselves with, and partly because the Divines are so remote from everyday life.  Still, it might be nice to have some optional quests for the DTSG side to gain some additional favour, if not from the divines, then certainly from their cults.   purchased by the Talmor(who have the profiles to be perfect Slaver budy if they are not slaver themselves)' date='they have that cult forbidden in the white gold concordat if I am not wrong there(nice trick to remove the problems for their buddy or themselves) [/quote']  On the other hand, I personally plan to use this mod to open a slave brothel in Windhelm and populate it enirely with broken and subservient Thalmor sluts who can spend their days apologising to the nords in the only way that really matters: on their backs.  Not that I have anything against the Thalmor, or anything  You know just as a thought why not have a quest where you infiltrate say the temple of Dibella and enslave the priestesses' date=' maybe also make them "horny sluts." To me it sounds like a good way to get a foothold in one of the holds for the slaver guild. [/quote']  mmm... that could work. Some client wants to see the temple move away from the somewhat feminist aspects of the current temple, and emphasis the free love aspects of Dibella cults elsewhere in Tamriel. I like it.  So far' date=' nothing happened when I met Bonny =/ Was I supposed to download certain mods to get this working correctly? Or is that part a WIP? [/quote']  lkl, it's all WIP at the moment. I had weeks before the CK came out and I used it to plot and spec. Since then, I've spent most of my time learning the CK.  We'll get there, but it's going to take a while yet  - let em go' date=' then hunt them down - let them out, ambush rape - 5minute luxury with false good intention, gang rape and taunt - grab their trust and friendship, beat and rape then (player's choice: kill or spare) [/quote']  Some good ideas there.  Something like that or a little more sadistic' date=' since most slavers i seen or heard usually do those kinds of things. Not sure if this suggestion is in the previous pages, as i didnt bother looking, but yeah just laying out a few suggestions. [/quote']  Have a look through the thread or the wiki. We're not short on evilness  This but also for a PC slave  I'll see what I can do  As I understand the bleedout state and the overall state of the PC at the point where yield is demanded' date=' she has already taken a severe beating. A normal person is not in any shape to fight back or retaliate anytime soon. Would the average bandit really see the PC as a threat anymore? [/quote']  Exactly. As often as not, the PC will be on one hp.  Sure' date=' the Dragonborn can flash some restoration magic and be fighting fit in no time, but is such magic common enough that enemies would expect it? Lydia sounds surprised when she receives healing, for example, and most magic-using NPCs only have offensive spells. [/quote']  Also, casting a spell is likely to get you told "none of that now", punctuated with a slap around the face that might just her in her weakened state.  Experienced' date=' professional slavers would make sure the victim is and stays under control. Undisciplined bandits and such? They might very well think on the lines of "hurr hurr, taught her a lesson" and leave it at that. [/quote']  That is pretty much the essence of it. Some of them should do stupid things. Some of them should (belatedly) try and be nice. Some should be overconfident. And of course some should be ruthless psychos ... but not all of them.  eerrr....Doc' date='checked some more the ANK Castle and come with a "weird" things,base entry is okey with your mod,but that things extend way more than the "simple" entry,after some "no cliping travel",here are the two other parts of it,with a screenshot of the map to show you where they are,just to be sure it does not cut in with what You have done there(NO CHANGING A THING ON YOUR SIDE HERE!LOL) [/quote']  I should be OK. The interiors are each in their own separate space. There's no danger of the castle basement clipping into the cell block.  Just so long as there's a bush left to hide a trapdoor under I'll be happy.  Oh, and thanks for looking
cyanure Posted March 8, 2012 Posted March 8, 2012 DocClox said: Â On the other hand, I personally plan to use this mod to open a slave brothel in Windhelm and populate it enirely with broken and subservient Thalmor sluts who can spend their days apologising to the nords in the only way that really matters: on their backs. Â You know,Talmor have some of them that are not happy with the actual way of the Talmor or do niot want to follwo it,so the one that control the Talmor decided to put them to go use...on their back...with their budy the Slavers it became a nice source of income or service....
DocClox Posted March 8, 2012 Author Posted March 8, 2012 You know' date='Talmor have some of them that are not happy with the actual way of the Talmor or do niot want to follwo it,so the one that control the Talmor decided to put them to go use...on their back...with their budy the Slavers it became a nice source of income or service.... [/quote'] Â Oh, but it's not the same doing it with permission ;P Â Seriously, I can see the Thalmor being a great source of jobs for the Guild. Although if you piss them off too much, some of those missions might turn out to ... alternative endings
zaraia Posted March 8, 2012 Posted March 8, 2012 Not sure I follow you here. I can see how Dibella a parton divine might open the way for some girl-on-girl hot priestess action ... but it also leaves my guy Wulf stuck outside the temple doors polishing his Happy Stick while he waits for the celebrations to be over. Â Since when are Dibellans strict lesbians? And if they are that would work great with a female PC' date=' and really why would you play the DTSG line with a male PC anyway? Â And I see his point, I don't really find the Twin Lamps very appealing, or opposing the Slavers Guild for no other reason than being the good guys. Dibellans and their motivation in this do seem a lot more interesting, in opposing the Slavers with their own view of sex. And if there are some lesbian feminists among them, that just makes failure more humiliating. Â [edit']Also this is clearly outside the scope of this mod, but it would be great if the Dibellans were turned a bit more faithful in practice to their free love ideas. At the very least the priestesses should be nude within the temple like they were in Daggerfall
DocClox Posted March 8, 2012 Author Posted March 8, 2012 Since when are Dibellans strict lesbians? And if they are that would work great with a female PC' date=' and really why would you play the DTSG line with a male PC anyway? [/quote'] Â Beats me, tbh. I assumed that was what TheCaptn had in mind between "lesbian layabouts" and using them to add eroticism to the DTSG path. Although like I said, I'm not entirely sure that was his point. Â I can imagine playing DSTG as a male PC. Probably only once. But the guild will make great villains. Â [edit]Also this is clearly outside the scope of this mod' date=' but it would be great if the Dibellans were turned a bit more faithful in practice to their free love ideas. At the very least the priestesses should be nude within the temple like they were in Daggerfall [/quote'] Â I'm bang alongside getting them naked again. Let's re-sexualise the goddess by all means... Â Hmmm....
cyanure Posted March 8, 2012 Posted March 8, 2012 You know' date='Talmor have some of them that are not happy with the actual way of the Talmor or do niot want to follwo it,so the one that control the Talmor decided to put them to go use...on their back...with their budy the Slavers it became a nice source of income or service.... [/quote']  Oh, but it's not the same doing it with permission ;P  Seriously, I can see the Thalmor being a great source of jobs for the Guild. Although if you piss them off too much, some of those missions might turn out to ... alternative endings  mmm....you know I think Cinabar the dark elf is totally okey with "the job of the Talmor"here,I am pretty sure he has some name to give too ,like the Talmor that invite herself to the peace party in the greybeard temple or...the one that is near the Jarl in riften...her andsaid Jarl seem to be interresting ressource for ...  thinking of that I do not think there is that much Talmor high elf women in the game(but I ùmay have missed some),there is maybe 4?the others may be where you tell they are,need to check there...just to be sure...knowledge is power here...  Againa dumb idea,for the rapper,an other problems may be the sumon if the target cast a summon at start of the fight(familliar ,astronach and so on),he/she has no control of the action once it is summoned, even if thetarget surrender,said summon will well use his/her 60 secondes of life to figth    Â
DocClox Posted March 8, 2012 Author Posted March 8, 2012 thinking of that I do not think there is that much Talmor high elf women in the game(but I ùmay have missed some)' date='there is maybe 4?the others may be where you tell they are,need to check there...just to be sure...knowledge is power here... [/quote']  Well, there's always the patrols you encounter from time to time. And the guards in Markarth respawn, and they stand a 50/50 chance to be female (which is a large part of why I learned to pick pockets: there's an ever increasing pile of female thalmor armour at the bottom of those stairs.  I do have a mission in mind where the target is the ambassador's sister, come from sumerset isle to check up on things. That could prove interesting...  Againa dumb idea' date='for the rapper,an other problems may be the sumon if the target cast a summon at start of the fight(familliar ,astronach and so on),he/she has no control of the action once it is summoned, even if thetarget surrender,said summon will well use his/her 60 secondes of life to figth [/quote']  True. And that I don't mind. Although it might well result in the player bound hand and foot in the snow: the atronach isn't going to rescue them, either
cyanure Posted March 8, 2012 Posted March 8, 2012 thinking of that I do not think there is that much Talmor high elf women in the game(but I ùmay have missed some)' date='there is maybe 4?the others may be where you tell they are,need to check there...just to be sure...knowledge is power here... [/quote']  Well, there's always the patrols you encounter from time to time. And the guards in Markarth respawn, and they stand a 50/50 chance to be female (which is a large part of why I learned to pick pockets: there's an ever increasing pile of female thalmor armour at the bottom of those stairs.  I do have a mission in mind where the target is the ambassador's sister, come from sumerset isle to check up on things. That could prove interesting...    Well,I must been unlucky there so far in around 250+ hours of game with various character I have encountered said patrol once(and damn the ice spear is really a spell I hate)  Can't wait to do that one,could be very sport to do as Talmor bodyguards may be a tad tricky and tend to fire spells at the first oportunity even if they need to create it...
zaraia Posted March 8, 2012 Posted March 8, 2012 Well' date='I must been unlucky there so far in around 250+ hours of game with various character I have encountered said patrol once [/quote'] Â Haha yes you must have, did you only just meet Delphine or do you avoid the roads ? I've seen Thalmor patrols all over the place since then, maybe one every 30 minutes.
TheCaptn Posted March 8, 2012 Posted March 8, 2012 Not sure I follow you here. I can see how Dibella a parton divine might open the way for some girl-on-girl hot priestess action ... but it also leaves my guy Wulf stuck outside the temple doors polishing his Happy Stick while he waits for the celebrations to be over.  Only women can be members of Dibella's cult' date=' but they share their sexuality with anyone they choose. Just look at Haelga for a perfect example of this... Having sex with all those guys is -how- she worships Dibella.  The only reason I referred to them as "lesbian layabouts" is because the temple in Markarth is full of young women who never go anywhere or do anything... But that's not lore, it's simply lazy scripting. They lack a visible purpose or an explanation for their wealth and success, which is an ideal opportunity to provide them with both.  That said, while I think there's necessarily going to be less sex in the DTSG line, I'm confident we can get the PC into a few sexy situations here and there. Regular strolls through sinkholes of vice and depravity, a deprogramming here, an undercover mission there... and always the chance to experience it from the slave's perspective. I think there a few options open to us  If the cult works through agents to challenge the slavers, rather than confronting them directly, then I'm sure there would be many additional rewards in store for successful agents. And all of your other ideas hold just as true... Plus the freed slaves would have somewhere safe to go, if they lack that. Somewhere that you can stop by to "check on their wellbeing".
Siko Posted March 9, 2012 Posted March 9, 2012 Just vhappened upon the thread for the first time. A lot of potential here, I am just wondering how far they are into creatig it are they. Can I get an updated status of this mod, please.
D_KNIGHT_PEN Posted March 9, 2012 Posted March 9, 2012 First dungeon is created but quest is still in the design and analysis stage.
lkl Posted March 9, 2012 Posted March 9, 2012 I'm sure this mod will be finished around late April - July. My guess though, depending how many people is helping him =/
D_KNIGHT_PEN Posted March 9, 2012 Posted March 9, 2012 Maybe the main portions of the mod but not everything the Doc has planned for this mod. Total completion of everything that is on the Wiki page i would say would take till maybe at most this time next year ... at most.
lkl Posted March 9, 2012 Posted March 9, 2012 Rofl a year, I'm pretty sure I'll be moving onto a another game. But meh, I guess I can wait.
DocClox Posted March 9, 2012 Author Posted March 9, 2012 First arc, maybe 20% complete. Lot of work still to do
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