WhatTheElf Posted Sunday at 07:31 AM Author Posted Sunday at 07:31 AM 20 minutes ago, no_way said: 1) this actually seems to infect older saves when I was still alive. They're faded too, and dont reset On save load I'm running some checks to reset the skin color forcefully if the player is in alive state I'll double check to see if anything could be causing that but don't have that issue my side What version Skyrim are you on, what racemenu version are you using, do you have any other mods that might change skin/tattoo colors? Fix for now should be to open racemenu and just adjust the skin color by like one slider and change it back again.
sikamikanico78 Posted Sunday at 05:58 PM Posted Sunday at 05:58 PM (edited) after some testing i think this mod has compatibility issues with SGO4 as well both mods trying to set overlays on the character leading to softlocks... gona test some more and see if it is indeed the case edit: nah it was probably papyrus overload,, evn though i disabled sgo4 for safety the mod has great potential! consider changing the hair and pubes color and iris in the eyes to a more grayed out along side with the skin.. btw rigor mortis remains permanent even if i choose not to get debuffs.. after some testing this mods ruins the animated overlays mod also.. big conflict there the veins disapear imidietly maybe becuse the overlay is fighting with milk leak overlays from sgo4 thats it for now Edited Sunday at 07:12 PM by sikamikanico78 1
chasm Posted Sunday at 10:13 PM Posted Sunday at 10:13 PM I ESL'd the first version, and it didn't break the game anyway. I haven't tested all your features. On 9/18/2026 at 1:07 AM, GremlinSleeperAgent said: Is this safe to ESL? On 9/18/2026 at 2:01 AM, WhatTheElf said: But shit, give it a try if you want and see if it breaks! 1
WCSC Posted Sunday at 10:32 PM Posted Sunday at 10:32 PM I see PC and NPC, does this work for your followers right now or no?
no_way Posted Monday at 02:02 AM Posted Monday at 02:02 AM 18 hours ago, WhatTheElf said: On save load I'm running some checks to reset the skin color forcefully if the player is in alive state I'll double check to see if anything could be causing that but don't have that issue my side What version Skyrim are you on, what racemenu version are you using, do you have any other mods that might change skin/tattoo colors? Fix for now should be to open racemenu and just adjust the skin color by like one slider and change it back again. Im on 1.6.1170 and racemenu 4.20
Densz Posted Monday at 05:37 AM Posted Monday at 05:37 AM (edited) Support Acheron and NSS defeat? Edited Monday at 05:40 AM by Densz
no_way Posted Monday at 05:53 AM Posted Monday at 05:53 AM 16 minutes ago, Densz said: Support Acheron and NSS defeat? Seconded. Needs Acheron support in 2026 😛
WhatTheElf Posted Monday at 06:05 AM Author Posted Monday at 06:05 AM 11 hours ago, sikamikanico78 said: after some testing i think this mod has compatibility issues with SGO4 as well both mods trying to set overlays on the character leading to softlocks... gona test some more and see if it is indeed the case edit: nah it was probably papyrus overload,, evn though i disabled sgo4 for safety the mod has great potential! consider changing the hair and pubes color and iris in the eyes to a more grayed out along side with the skin.. btw rigor mortis remains permanent even if i choose not to get debuffs.. after some testing this mods ruins the animated overlays mod also.. big conflict there the veins disapear imidietly maybe becuse the overlay is fighting with milk leak overlays from sgo4 thats it for now Thanks for the testing! Yeah I expect any other mod adding overlays for now to potentially conflict, especially if the NIoverride limit is low. Not much I can for now but to disable those overlays in my mod for the time being. Skin fade should be unaffected as that actually changed the games skin value. I don't use sgo4 or any animated overlay mods so I'll look at fixes in a later version (most likely just use slavetats or something) As for rigor, does a potion of cure disease not fix it? I'll double check when I get a chance 7 hours ago, chasm said: I ESL'd the first version, and it didn't break the game anyway. I haven't tested all your features. Cool, thanks for letting me know 7 hours ago, WCSC said: I see PC and NPC, does this work for your followers right now or no? You could strangle drain your follower yes. But the neuro and resurrect is currently player only 3 hours ago, no_way said: Im on 1.6.1170 and racemenu 4.20 In the latest version I've added an option in the action menu to force reset skin features, hopefully that's a temporary fix to your issue (not immersive but an emergency way out) 23 minutes ago, Densz said: Support Acheron and NSS defeat? Dont use Acheron myself but understand it's a death alternative, I'd might work on a patch update at somepoint to add support but there's features I'd want to work on first. If NSS doesn't have any aftermath features or multiple round features like defeat it should work? Untested so no idea 11 minutes ago, no_way said: Seconded. Needs Acheron support in 2026 😛 Call me old...defeat is still my favourite 1
WCSC Posted Monday at 03:31 PM Posted Monday at 03:31 PM (edited) 9 hours ago, WhatTheElf said: Thanks for the testing! Yeah I expect any other mod adding overlays for now to potentially conflict, especially if the NIoverride limit is low. Not much I can for now but to disable those overlays in my mod for the time being. Skin fade should be unaffected as that actually changed the games skin value. I don't use sgo4 or any animated overlay mods so I'll look at fixes in a later version (most likely just use slavetats or something) As for rigor, does a potion of cure disease not fix it? I'll double check when I get a chance Cool, thanks for letting me know You could strangle drain your follower yes. But the neuro and resurrect is currently player only In the latest version I've added an option in the action menu to force reset skin features, hopefully that's a temporary fix to your issue (not immersive but an emergency way out) Dont use Acheron myself but understand it's a death alternative, I'd might work on a patch update at somepoint to add support but there's features I'd want to work on first. If NSS doesn't have any aftermath features or multiple round features like defeat it should work? Untested so no idea Call me old...defeat is still my favourite Sorry, I have not tried your mod yet. But like the mod "PLayer get's Necro'd" when you die will you and your followers get Necro'd, or in a Defeat Scenario will you and your followers get choked out? (NPC vs NPC) Edited Monday at 03:33 PM by WCSC
WhatTheElf Posted Monday at 03:52 PM Author Posted Monday at 03:52 PM 19 minutes ago, WCSC said: Sorry, I have not tried your mod yet. But like the mod "PLayer get's Necro'd" when you die will you and your followers get Necro'd, or in a Defeat Scenario will you and your followers get choked out? (NPC vs NPC) Necro: Just player for now Defeat Scenario: NPC vs NPC should work 1
pleasesendhelp Posted Monday at 06:01 PM Posted Monday at 06:01 PM Would you be willing to add things like drooling overlays and tongue lolling out during choking? I know they are not on the future plans list but I think these would be pretty neat to add.
Moiraine Posted Monday at 10:38 PM Posted Monday at 10:38 PM I admire your dedication to your craft. I really enjoy your storys, and appreciate that you're going the distance. Hopefully this will create a flourishing community of people with like-minded stories. 1
no_way Posted Tuesday at 04:57 AM Posted Tuesday at 04:57 AM 22 hours ago, WhatTheElf said: Thanks for the testing! Yeah I expect any other mod adding overlays for now to potentially conflict, especially if the NIoverride limit is low. Not much I can for now but to disable those overlays in my mod for the time being. Skin fade should be unaffected as that actually changed the games skin value. I don't use sgo4 or any animated overlay mods so I'll look at fixes in a later version (most likely just use slavetats or something) As for rigor, does a potion of cure disease not fix it? I'll double check when I get a chance Cool, thanks for letting me know You could strangle drain your follower yes. But the neuro and resurrect is currently player only In the latest version I've added an option in the action menu to force reset skin features, hopefully that's a temporary fix to your issue (not immersive but an emergency way out) Dont use Acheron myself but understand it's a death alternative, I'd might work on a patch update at somepoint to add support but there's features I'd want to work on first. If NSS doesn't have any aftermath features or multiple round features like defeat it should work? Untested so no idea Call me old...defeat is still my favourite Oh I remember original Defeat. But Acheron is just so much better
sikamikanico78 Posted Tuesday at 07:26 AM Posted Tuesday at 07:26 AM 2 hours ago, no_way said: Oh I remember original Defeat. But Acheron is just so much better I'll have to dissagree with that .I find defeat way better than Acheron...I only keep Acheron as well for the strip options...but it's a very disfunctional mod when it comes to be defeated
DownloadingStuff Posted Tuesday at 10:07 AM Posted Tuesday at 10:07 AM Used to mimic this with very jank SL triggers, so nice to see someone making a better attempt at this. Time to go in blind with simple defeat + this mod testing. Might heavily conflict with the ghosted effect applied during the scene to prevent any damage though. 1
johnydiabolical Posted Tuesday at 01:34 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:34 PM Any chance of adding a blowjob version of this?
Skeleto921 Posted Tuesday at 03:50 PM Posted Tuesday at 03:50 PM Mods pretty fun I got crashes from reverting the pale skin overlay that didnt go away with racemenu. I already saw someones reported the pale skin staying even when the player is alive.
no_way Posted Wednesday at 06:07 AM Posted Wednesday at 06:07 AM 22 hours ago, sikamikanico78 said: I'll have to dissagree with that .I find defeat way better than Acheron...I only keep Acheron as well for the strip options...but it's a very disfunctional mod when it comes to be defeated I would say Acheron is 100% reliable for defeat. What happens after depends on which mod it hands off to
sikamikanico78 Posted Wednesday at 06:17 AM Posted Wednesday at 06:17 AM 7 minutes ago, no_way said: I would say Acheron is 100% reliable for defeat. What happens after depends on which mod it hands off to When I get downed with archeon I get stuck in a loop that plays the getting down animation and the camera is also annoyingly rotating non stop..the mods ofc that are to manage what happen next can't start since archeon is stuck..acheron had never been updated also
WhatTheElf Posted Wednesday at 12:55 PM Author Posted Wednesday at 12:55 PM 23 hours ago, johnydiabolical said: Any chance of adding a blowjob version of this? On my todo list yeah! 21 hours ago, Skeleto921 said: Mods pretty fun I got crashes from reverting the pale skin overlay that didnt go away with racemenu. I already saw someones reported the pale skin staying even when the player is alive. Hmm when you did you get the crash, was it trying to open the action menu? Could be missing UIExtensions? Failing that its probably some update shenanigans if you're on a different version of skyrim. As for the pale skin staying. Question, have you been resurrected 7 times or more? There's a permanent debuff feature i added where skin remains at 25% faded. I should really add a separate toggle for this, but fix for now would be to disable debuffs in the MCM
Skeleto921 Posted Wednesday at 06:43 PM Posted Wednesday at 06:43 PM 5 hours ago, WhatTheElf said: On my todo list yeah! Hmm when you did you get the crash, was it trying to open the action menu? Could be missing UIExtensions? Failing that its probably some update shenanigans if you're on a different version of skyrim. As for the pale skin staying. Question, have you been resurrected 7 times or more? There's a permanent debuff feature i added where skin remains at 25% faded. I should really add a separate toggle for this, but fix for now would be to disable debuffs in the MCM As for the crash I dont think it was an issue on your mod could be from something else. I wasnt resurrected 7 times I died fun stuff happened and wanted to see if it worked. Thought it was cool so I reloaded the save and noticed the pale skin. I fixed it with race menu then when changing tops today. The pale skin returned so I used another mod that removes skin overrides. racemenu has a weird bug for me that gives my character a shine so i use that mod to remove that weird bug but it worked with your mod as well. 1
Mynote Posted yesterday at 05:52 AM Posted yesterday at 05:52 AM Having an issue with the post-snuff death state. my character doesn't ragdoll, playing a short bleedout animation before giving me back normal control. if i press the resurrection key, it resurrects me as if i was in the death state. of the mods you listed in the incompatibilities section, i only have defeat installed, which is, as you said, accounted for.
WhatTheElf Posted yesterday at 08:04 AM Author Posted yesterday at 08:04 AM 2 hours ago, Mynote said: Having an issue with the post-snuff death state. my character doesn't ragdoll, playing a short bleedout animation before giving me back normal control. if i press the resurrection key, it resurrects me as if i was in the death state. of the mods you listed in the incompatibilities section, i only have defeat installed, which is, as you said, accounted for. Hmm sounds like you've got a mod that prevents the player from dying? Any death alternative mods? As post snuff I actually kill the player using scripts.
Mynote Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 18 hours ago, WhatTheElf said: Any death alternative mods? none that explicitly mention it, no. i'm going to comb through several dozen mod menus to see if i have any mods that somehow make me essential. will update if i find a result.
Mynote Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 19 minutes ago, Mynote said: none that explicitly mention it, no. i'm going to comb through several dozen mod menus to see if i have any mods that somehow make me essential. will update if i find a result. Lazy bum that i am, and also because my game takes ages to launch, i'm posting my load order in the spoiler below. if you recognize any incompatibilities, tell me and i'll remove the mod and test again. Spoiler this is on version 1.6.1170. Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm _ResourcePack.esl DeviousFollowers - Cutting Room Floor - Patch.esp DF SLACS Patch.esp unofficial skyrim special edition patch.esp Leash.esm SexLab.esm SexLabAroused.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm LoreFriendlyToys.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm CreatureFramework.esm PamaPrisonAlternative.esm PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm BeeingFemale.esm TrueHUD.esl OCF.esp PamaFurnitureScr.esp SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm Amputator.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm ApachiiHairMales.esm ApachiiHair.esm Heels Sound.esm High Poly Head.esm SGEyebrows.esp Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm ClimatesOfTamriel.esm SkyUI_SE.esp I4IconAddon.esp SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp Animal_Research.esp SD Cages.esp Immersive Jewelry.esp MysticismMagic.esp Animal Mansion Reborn.esp BalazarTheHusky.esp LC_BuildYourNobleHouse.esp SexLab-Stories.esp SexLab_DibellaCult.esp SimplyKnock.esp SL Survival.esp Public Whore.esp BaboInteractiveDia.esp NewArmoury.esp SexLab More Creatures.esp sanguinesDebauchery.esp SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp The Ancient Profession.esp Slaverun_Reloaded.esp CustomComments.esp SprawlingBimbos.esp FloatingSwordFollower.esp zRavenous.esp The Haunted Brothel.esp SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp MiasLair.esp EnslavedByThalmor.esp pchsWartimes.esp RennasRanch.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp SexLab_Dialogues.esp Laura's Bondage Shop.esp DeviousFollowers.esp DeviousFollowers - Unofficially Patched.esp SLSnuff.esp Nordic Warmaiden Body Hair.esp ButtSlap.esp P1FlyingRing.esp Animated Wings Ultimate.esp SexLab UtilityPlus.esp BesEss.esp SexLab Approach.esp MeatFarm.esp Nodachi.esp PrisonAlternative_Executions_Riften.esp PaPunishmentPack1.esp yps-ImmersivePiercing.esp SimpleSlavery.esp Bandit Paradise.esp AnubAnimObj.esp DarkAdditions.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp SexLabWerewolves.esp FSMPM - The FSMP MCM.esp HornyCreatures.esp KSO Mage Robes.esp BD Armor and clothes replacer.esp Luxury Collection.esp EnforcerOutfitsLuxuryCollection.esp Luxury Collection Keywords.esp SlaverunEnforcerStandsalone.esp SRREnforcerEnhanced.esp RaceMenuHH.esp HN66mage4vanilla.esp [Imp] Modular Mage.esp [Predator] Custom HP Head edits.esp MCMHelper.esp BimboLips.esp CBBE Standalone Underwear.esp CBBE Underwear Clothing Rename.esp Goddess.esp UNP Undies.esp Lazman_Outfits.esp BFACreatureChildActorsSE_ESPFE.esp BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp BeeingFemaleSE_Opt.esp AngrimApprentice.esp PrisonAlternative_Executions_WindHelm.esp Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp Next-Gen Decapitations.esp PamaSovngardeAftermath.esp PaOutdoorEventPack.esp OrkishBountyHunters.esp The Amazing World of Bikini Armors REMASTERED.esp FGCIronUltraGreatsword.esp RosaFollower.esp All Geared Up Derivative.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Disable Turn Animation.esp TrueDirectionalMovement.esp I4WeaponIconsOverhaul.esp Ultra Weapons.esp PowerAttacks.esp Precision.esp Attack_MCO.esp argonianchargen.esp JS Unique Utopia SE - Daggers - Johnskyrim.esp smp beast tail.esp FlawnsArgonians - Eyes, Replacer Plus.esp FlawnsArgonians - NPCs, Flawns Edits.esp Player Death Aftermath.esp SolitudeSlaughtery.esp UnforgivingDevices.esp Devious Devices SE patch.esp UnforgivingDevices - DD Patch.esp UnforgivingDevices - LBS Patch.esp ToastGuroOutfits.esp BakaMotionData.esp SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp BakaFactoryABC.esp MNC_ABC_Patch.esp Bathing in Skyrim.esp BimboDemeanor.esp 3BBB.esp CBBE.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp Botox SE.esp SOSPhysicsManager.esp HN66_NAILS4ALL.esp ConfigurableNotificationMessages.esp CumSwallowNeeds_BeggingAddon.esp DX Fetish Fashion Volume 1 SE.esp Devious Devices - Equip.esp DX FetishFashion II.esp DevFollowersVoiceMore.esp EquipableStockings.esp FNIS.esp SLALAnimObj.esp FMS_FemaleMakeupSuite.esp sr_FillHerUp.esp FlufyFoxAnimObjects.esp Brows.esp Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp KSHairdosSMP.esp KS Hairdo's.esp KS Jewelry.esp Kaw's Claws.esp Love Sickness.esp E_OGN.esp SexLabTools.esp Poser Hotkeys.esp PregnancyNormalmapSwapper.esp SD Patches.esp SLAnimLoader.esp SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SexLab Inflation Framework.esp SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp SLSO.esp SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp SexLabDefeat.esp Shas' Equipable Handnails_VersionYps.esp SimpleItemSpawner.esp SlaveTats.esp (Pumpkin)-TEWOBA-TheExpandedWorldofBikiniArmor.esp SOS - TRX - Futanari Addon.esp TAWOBA Remastered Leveled List.esp ToastPoses.esp ToastSLAL.esp VivisCockcageSE_TRX_CBBE.esp Weapon Styles.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp XPMSE.esp dse-display-model.esp ahzWaywardKnight.esp toast-dmpack1.esp HN66_Earrings.esp Sonders_Keyword_Distribution.esp HN66 Mage Nails USSEP Patch.esp JaxonzMCMKicker.esp Some Collision Camera.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-L2.esp UIExtensions.esp alternate start - live another life.esp ccas_starts.esp Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp side note, i managed to test Player Death Aftermath, it has nothing to do with my issue as i had the necro option and even the whole mod disabled, yet the issue persisted. the only difference is that my character stayed in the bleedout animation this time instead of quickly returning to normal.
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