[Wip] Hero(Ine) In Distress (Former Sexlab Captured)

[Mallomar42]

Looking forward to wherever this goes 

[gaggedgirl123]

There's some very interresting ideas in there, as well as some I probably won't do.

 

The pain treshold idea is something I'll definitely add to the encounter. It could be influenced by many different factors, such as how close your last torture was to hitting the limit, or how "voluntary" they seem to be (might be hard to code though).

 

As far as the emotional connections go... I dunno, it could work if Skyrim made you give a damn about anyone, but as far as I'm concerned, the only NPC I ever felt pity for was that dark elf you can recruit in Whiterun, and that was because she died the horrible death of the dwemer spinning blades...

I haven'T decided though, just saying adding weight there would require something to make you care a bit more

[gaggedgirl123]

-IMPORTANT UPDATE-

 

Actually, while I can keep progressing the encounter without any problem, I'm wondering if my progress idea once you're webbed up is really the right approach. I'm not gonna spoil what I wanted to do, but I'm curious about your suggestions. On next saturday, I'l decide what will happen, so as to not slow me down should I manage to get there this week

 

EDIT: By "progression", I mean, what YOU have to do once you're webbed, what events can happen. Mechanics ideas are also welcome, but I don't think I really need those. 

[bleeb]

-IMPORTANT UPDATE-

 

Actually, while I can keep progressing the encounter without any problem, I'm wondering if my progress idea once you're webbed up is really the right approach. I'm not gonna spoil what I wanted to do, but I'm curious about your suggestions. On next saturday, I'l decide what will happen, so as to not slow me down should I manage to get there this week

 

EDIT: By "progression", I mean, what YOU have to do once you're webbed, what events can happen. Mechanics ideas are also welcome, but I don't think I really need those. 

so you're asking for ideas of what you can do while struggling etc? just trying to clarify. because I do have ideas. I love that you ask for input btw, it's a mark of awesomeness. anyhow, if this is the case, we might have to make looser suggestions since there's only a little context here

[gaggedgirl123]

Well, basically, I'm looking for events to happen during the "dead phase", as I like to call it. This is the phase between the impregnation and the time you actually give birth to these eggs. I had a few ideas myself, but I'd like if some variety could be added, as I think that phase could seem to drag on uselessly if so little actually happens

[xboronx]

Nice to hear, you seem to make good progress.

 

While trapped you could:

-Hear/look around if spiders are near. If they are, struggling should be dangerous and the spiders might wrap you up more.

-Struggling of course trying to get free.

-Try shouting for help, spiders are probably not intelligent enough to gag you. There might be a problem with Thu'ums then though. But could be interesting, you have one Thu'um attempt and after that even spiders probably gag you.

-Try to get some rest, should be difficult, because you are hungry and in an uncomfortable position

 

Overall this is everything i can think of since you are quite immobilized. There is the problem with drinking, in order to keep you alive for breeding the spiders would have to give you something to drink in a while, but they are probably not so intelligent. And there is the issue that you would be a breeding vessel of similiar quality when you are dead probably.

The spider encounter is quite tough to explain somewhat logically imho as long as there isn't some kind of explanation through someone involved in secret like a curse from hircine or some mad mage experimenting around and mind controlling the spiders or the like.

 

Because of these issues i'm looking forward even more to the encounter since i'm curious how you do it, probably i'll get some surprises then and will think great idea, why did i be so sceptical

[bleeb]

Nice to hear, you seem to make good progress.

 

While trapped you could:

-Hear/look around if spiders are near. If they are, struggling should be dangerous and the spiders might wrap you up more.

-Struggling of course trying to get free.

-Try shouting for help, spiders are probably not intelligent enough to gag you. There might be a problem with Thu'ums then though. But could be interesting, you have one Thu'um attempt and after that even spiders probably gag you.

-Try to get some rest, should be difficult, because you are hungry and in an uncomfortable position

 

Overall this is everything i can think of since you are quite immobilized. There is the problem with drinking, in order to keep you alive for breeding the spiders would have to give you something to drink in a while, but they are probably not so intelligent. And there is the issue that you would be a breeding vessel of similiar quality when you are dead probably.

The spider encounter is quite tough to explain somewhat logically imho as long as there isn't some kind of explanation through someone involved in secret like a curse from hircine or some mad mage experimenting around and mind controlling the spiders or the like.

 

Because of these issues i'm looking forward even more to the encounter since i'm curious how you do it, probably i'll get some surprises then and will think great idea, why did i be so sceptical

great suggestions here, but for one, gagged did say you ARE gagged, and the cocoons from Zaz do come with gags.. so yeah, no shouting. other than that, great ideas

[gaggedgirl123]

Nice to hear, you seem to make good progress.

 

While trapped you could:

-Hear/look around if spiders are near. If they are, struggling should be dangerous and the spiders might wrap you up more.

 

Well I find it completely ridiculous in mods like Submit where you'd get punished for struggling a bit, since afterall if you were expected to just stay put you wouldn't be bound. Still, this made me think of them checking the state of your webbing once in a while, and if it's too damaged, repair it, even stronger. This should add a bit of strategy as to when you choose to  struggle, as I plan on making struggle a player-influenced thing, instead of a random chance each time you try

 

-Struggling of course trying to get free.

 

That one is covered already, and I think you guys are going to appreciate how different it feels from the other mods around here, if I manage to make it work the way I want it to

 

-Try shouting for help, spiders are probably not intelligent enough to gag you. There might be a problem with Thu'ums then though. But could be interesting, you have one Thu'um attempt and after that even spiders probably gag you.

 

Well I do plan on having you gagged from the start, as the Zaz cocoons are already gagged, Besides, you're deep enough in Cronvangr that no one but the other victims would hear you.

 

-Try to get some rest, should be difficult, because you are hungry and in an uncomfortable position

 

Well, I might have to add some sort of poison that constantly tortures you. Possibly add some sort of debuff if you can't resist it, that prevents you from struggling. I'll have to think of how to balance that though. Still, thanks for making me think about resting, I never thought of it

 

Overall this is everything i can think of since you are quite immobilized. There is the problem with drinking, in order to keep you alive for breeding the spiders would have to give you something to drink in a while, but they are probably not so intelligent. And there is the issue that you would be a breeding vessel of similiar quality when you are dead probably.

The spider encounter is quite tough to explain somewhat logically imho as long as there isn't some kind of explanation through someone involved in secret like a curse from hircine or some mad mage experimenting around and mind controlling the spiders or the like.

 

Well as far as logic goes, I think you'll have to suspend your disbelief for a bit... They don'T feed their prisonners, would waste the already scarce ressources they have. Same goes for water. 

 

Because of these issues i'm looking forward even more to the encounter since i'm curious how you do it, probably i'll get some surprises then and will think great idea, why did i be so sceptical

 

 

ah ok, so you mean when you're left to your own devices, I'd say struggling is an obvious one you could have it do.. thinking up more. though I can't help but think I'd be of more useful help if I had more context, there isn't any way I could alpha test this or something to give you suggestions that way is there? just thought I'd ask, if not I'll make do

 

Well this encounter is small enough in scope that I can test it as I script it. I actually HAVE to, consideing how little I know of scripting so far, I'm still learning.

[bleeb]

 

Nice to hear, you seem to make good progress.

 

While trapped you could:

-Hear/look around if spiders are near. If they are, struggling should be dangerous and the spiders might wrap you up more.

 

Well I find it completely ridiculous in mods like Submit where you'd get punished for struggling a bit, since afterall if you were expected to just stay put you wouldn't be bound. Still, this made me think of them checking the state of your webbing once in a while, and if it's too damaged, repair it, even stronger. This should add a bit of strategy as to when you choose to  struggle, as I plan on making struggle a player-influenced thing, instead of a random chance each time you try

 

-Struggling of course trying to get free.

 

That one is covered already, and I think you guys are going to appreciate how different it feels from the other mods around here, if I manage to make it work the way I want it to

 

-Try shouting for help, spiders are probably not intelligent enough to gag you. There might be a problem with Thu'ums then though. But could be interesting, you have one Thu'um attempt and after that even spiders probably gag you.

 

Well I do plan on having you gagged from the start, as the Zaz cocoons are already gagged, Besides, you're deep enough in Cronvangr that no one but the other victims would hear you.

 

-Try to get some rest, should be difficult, because you are hungry and in an uncomfortable position

 

Well, I might have to add some sort of poison that constantly tortures you. Possibly add some sort of debuff if you can't resist it, that prevents you from struggling. I'll have to think of how to balance that though. Still, thanks for making me think about resting, I never thought of it

 

Overall this is everything i can think of since you are quite immobilized. There is the problem with drinking, in order to keep you alive for breeding the spiders would have to give you something to drink in a while, but they are probably not so intelligent. And there is the issue that you would be a breeding vessel of similiar quality when you are dead probably.

The spider encounter is quite tough to explain somewhat logically imho as long as there isn't some kind of explanation through someone involved in secret like a curse from hircine or some mad mage experimenting around and mind controlling the spiders or the like.

 

Well as far as logic goes, I think you'll have to suspend your disbelief for a bit... They don'T feed their prisonners, would waste the already scarce ressources they have. Same goes for water. 

 

Because of these issues i'm looking forward even more to the encounter since i'm curious how you do it, probably i'll get some surprises then and will think great idea, why did i be so sceptical

 

 

ah ok, so you mean when you're left to your own devices, I'd say struggling is an obvious one you could have it do.. thinking up more. though I can't help but think I'd be of more useful help if I had more context, there isn't any way I could alpha test this or something to give you suggestions that way is there? just thought I'd ask, if not I'll make do

 

Well this encounter is small enough in scope that I can test it as I script it. I actually HAVE to, consideing how little I know of scripting so far, I'm still learning.

 

yeah, I think diving too deep into logic for mods on a fantasy game is a tad bit off, not a bad thing, but we should remember this is a fantasy game, and 100% realism is pretty hard to get.. and I'd venture to say it'd be more work than it's worth. still great ideas though.

 

btw, I like the way you respond to things in quotes gagged, very helpful. I didn't think you could actually type within someone else's quote lol. nice color choice for it too.

 

ah ok on the last note. ironically I meant to note that lol.

[gaggedgirl123]

Well I'd agree 100% if this wasn't a TES game, but these have always strived to attain a very believable fantasy world, where people really live lives and go through hard times, so sometimes immersion should go first. The thing is, I'm not planning integration with RNAD or any mod of the sort, so I don't really need to think about that

 

Yeah I chose that color because it doesn'T make you eyes bled when you read it. I'm looking at you, BLOOD RED

[bleeb]

TES or not, it's still fantasy though, so that's pretty debatable too, especially with things like magic, and dragons that talk to launch fire and such, not to mention how something that huge flies with such a bulky skeleton.. but yeah, that's not what I'm here for lol, I get what you mean though, it is supposed to be a 'grittier' fantasy, but what I brought up was basically excusing the focus on the 100% realism with hunger and whatnot, there's mods for that too though iirc, but I don't think most people come to play a fantasy game for every little tiny detail in every single scenario, tailored to be perfectly realistic on every minuscule note.. hope you get what I'm saying here. basically: this can be great without an anal attention to the tiny details, I personally think that too many of those way over-complicate things anyhow.

 

heh, yeah I think that was a wise move

[JahReit]

re: brood mother; has anyone mentioned same effect with baby spiders as you have with baby chaurus?  Realist animals, i think, have baby spiders and baby everything else.  Or change baby chaurus with spider mesh, or make your own by scaling regular spiders and removing or diminishing their bite and poison (although many baby creatures' poison is more potent than the adult's'.

[xboronx]

I'm liking those green quote replies too, they are good to read.

 

 

 

 

Overall this is everything i can think of since you are quite immobilized. There is the problem with drinking, in order to keep you alive for breeding the spiders would have to give you something to drink in a while, but they are probably not so intelligent. And there is the issue that you would be a breeding vessel of similiar quality when you are dead probably.

The spider encounter is quite tough to explain somewhat logically imho as long as there isn't some kind of explanation through someone involved in secret like a curse from hircine or some mad mage experimenting around and mind controlling the spiders or the like.

 

Well as far as logic goes, I think you'll have to suspend your disbelief for a bit... They don'T feed their prisonners, would waste the already scarce ressources they have. Same goes for water. 

 

Also as response to bleeb. No problem with the logic, i just tend to divide fantasy beings into 3 classes, humanoids or other very intelligent beings, semi-intelligent beings like trolls, ogers, giants, clever animals like cats, wolves and finally rather unintelligent beings like spiders or rather brainless magic slave creatures like guardian golems.

 

A while ago i suggested that you might be able to pray in helpless situations, this might also be a possible action, and i'll just assume that either one of the Aedras or Sanguine has enough mercy with you to keep you alive.

 

Really looking forward to the encounter because it will be very special, i think even a premiere. You seem to be unable to do much, and those spiders seem to have no goal and there won't be much interaction from the spiders side, so you are entering pioneer land. In all other mods i have tried so far either your purpose is to be a slave or when animals are involved they rape you once and you're free to go. Only XAZ prison overhaul comes close enough with the limited actions you can make, but there you know that you will get free after some days and you may at least eat and rest in your cell. But here you will be in utter despair, just a breeding vessel for new spiders. 

So don't worry if there isn't much to do or the time seems too long, this will make the encounter special and interesting. And there is finally always the option to use the console to change speed to shorten the waiting a bit. If your escaping system for this encounter will work well enough concerns about replayability are unneccessary too, because you only lose to spiders very rarely. So it might even happen that i will lose to spiders voluntarily every now and then to replay the scenario

[bleeb]

I'm liking those green quote replies too, they are good to read.

 

 

 

 

Overall this is everything i can think of since you are quite immobilized. There is the problem with drinking, in order to keep you alive for breeding the spiders would have to give you something to drink in a while, but they are probably not so intelligent. And there is the issue that you would be a breeding vessel of similiar quality when you are dead probably.

The spider encounter is quite tough to explain somewhat logically imho as long as there isn't some kind of explanation through someone involved in secret like a curse from hircine or some mad mage experimenting around and mind controlling the spiders or the like.

 

Well as far as logic goes, I think you'll have to suspend your disbelief for a bit... They don'T feed their prisonners, would waste the already scarce ressources they have. Same goes for water. 

 

Also as response to bleeb. No problem with the logic, i just tend to divide fantasy beings into 3 classes, humanoids or other very intelligent beings, semi-intelligent beings like trolls, ogers, giants, clever animals like cats, wolves and finally rather unintelligent beings like spiders or rather brainless magic slave creatures like guardian golems.

 

A while ago i suggested that you might be able to pray in helpless situations, this might also be a possible action, and i'll just assume that either one of the Aedras or Sanguine has enough mercy with you to keep you alive.

 

Really looking forward to the encounter because it will be very special, i think even a premiere. You seem to be unable to do much, and those spiders seem to have no goal and there won't be much interaction from the spiders side, so you are entering pioneer land. In all other mods i have tried so far either your purpose is to be a slave or when animals are involved they rape you once and you're free to go. Only XAZ prison overhaul comes close enough with the limited actions you can make, but there you know that you will get free after some days and you may at least eat and rest in your cell. But here you will be in utter despair, just a breeding vessel for new spiders. 

So don't worry if there isn't much to do or the time seems too long, this will make the encounter special and interesting. And there is finally always the option to use the console to change speed to shorten the waiting a bit. If your escaping system for this encounter will work well enough concerns about replayability are unneccessary too, because you only lose to spiders very rarely. So it might even happen that i will lose to spiders voluntarily every now and then to replay the scenario

yeah, I wasn't debating realism on that note, I was just pointing out that sometimes it's ok to pass up the extreme details is all. no biggie.

 

oh wow! amazing idea! I didn't even think about praying at all, great thinking! I think that's a pretty appropriate and fitting thing you could do while caught. though I wonder who it would be aimed at, or if you'd have a choice of god to pray to, and if it would accomplish anything lol. instant like for that idea!

 

yeah, I'll definitely be replaying this one as well

[gaggedgirl123]

-NOTIFICATION-

 

Unfortunately, due to real life issues, I'll have to put this whole project on pause. Don't worry, I'll still make it, but until some personal issues clear up, progress is officially halted.

 

Now, I'll keep answering to the thread and to PMs though, as that isn't really time-consuming.

 

Also, if you'd like to contribute to making this project succesful, and work on an encounter yourself, I strongly encourage you to PM me so we can figure out the details. 

 

I apologize for the hearts I might have broken by posting this...

[bleeb]

No problem, you have to deal with RL first, mods come second, after all that's cleared up. hope you get that all worked out soon though.

 

I don't think it's so unexpected though, this is a really ambitious project, and there's quite a lot too it, so it's not surprising, at least to me anyway.

[gaggedgirl123]

Well the project's ambition is actually a motivation for me, so that's really not a problem. The thing is, right now my computer is almost dying on me, AND I just lost the job I had (not a huge loss, these fuckers made me work about 3 days in 2 months, so...). So now I'll find a job, as well as buy a new computer when I have enough money. When that's done I'll keep working on it.

 

I don't like giving a deadline for this, as finding a job doesn't depend entirely on me, but I'd say don't expect anything in the next 2 months...

 

And if you ask me why I was so optimistic yesterday, the thing is, it happened BEFORE I got 3 Blue Screen of Death in the same evening... I know what the problem is, but I've already spent too much boosting this old piece of shit, now I wanna get something brand new

[Lusty Housecarl]

I must say this mod reminds me a little of the game "Violated Heroine" reading all these neat ideas that the Heroine will be put through

 

Either way i hope stuff works out for you!

 

[gaggedgirl123]

I was hugely inspired by Lightning Warrior Raidy lol. Also by the obvious lack of attention some things seem to get on here.

 

And thanks! I know it will, I'm determined enough to work on it. I just wish it wasn't so damn cold today, so I could actually physically go there, instead of being stuck with an internet search

[Lusty Housecarl]

I was hugely inspired by Lightning Warrior Raidy lol. Also by the obvious lack of attention some things seem to get on here.

 

And thanks! I know it will, I'm determined enough to work on it. I just wish it wasn't so damn cold today, so I could actually physically go there, instead of being stuck with an internet search

I cant say i have ever tried that game/VN. Hehe there can never be enough mods that put your heroine in all sorts of "trouble"

 

Good ol'cold weather, a foe i am far to familiar with living in the real worlds Skyrim.

[gaggedgirl123]

So you live in Canada too? haha.

 

And I think you definitely should try the Raidy series, they're really awesome. If you enjoy that kind of combat there's also the Monster Girl Quest series, which has you playing a guy this time, that I'm going through these days. It's tough but fun

[Lusty Housecarl]

So you live in Canada too? haha.

 

And I think you definitely should try the Raidy series, they're really awesome. If you enjoy that kind of combat there's also the Monster Girl Quest series, which has you playing a guy this time, that I'm going through these days. It's tough but fun

Norway (..Where is my nordic 50% Frost resistance racial?)

 

Hmm i may need to give said Raidy game a try later! as for MGQ a male protagonist may be lost on me a little

Oh well time for me to stop hijacking your thread with this!

[gaggedgirl123]

No worries, right now it's probably gonna be used for discussion until I can get back to it, which might take some time

 

BTW did you have any suggestions for the mod? Don't filter yourself, I usually modify those I use anyways

[Lusty Housecarl]

Something i have always wanted is a obsessed stalker that follows you around Skyrim spreading rumors about you to scare people away from you, only to eventually capture you in one way or another to "keep you safe" from the rest of the world.   (Romantic in a batshit insane sort of way..)

 

This could end in a few ways a "Good end" where you escape from him, or a "Bad end" where you accept him/her/it. (Though the good/bad end depends on how you view being locked up and taken care of by someone until you possibly start a new game or escape. I could consider the later the good end   )

[gaggedgirl123]

Yeah the stalker encounter definitely will go something similar to this, though I think the rumors would add a nice touch. I also aim to add a side to it where once you meet them, you accept to fall for them. Of course, they'd lock you up anyways, to "protect you", but I think it would add a nice touch.

 

Besides, a "loving" capture has rarely been done I think