DeepBlueFrog Posted December 11, 2014 Author Posted December 11, 2014 I was going to post an update tonight but I ran into a serious issue I need to fix first... I will try again tomorrow,
Budroi Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 Im not sure but is this supposed to be happening? *also with the sheer amount of post on this thread its been pretty quick to reach the 50 notifications limit, just curious if you saw my post on the hormones thread?
DeepBlueFrog Posted December 11, 2014 Author Posted December 11, 2014 Im not sure but is this supposed to be happening? It is not supposed to happen but it is a known issue. I have been trying to track down the source of that issue several time without success.
Budroi Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 Im not sure but is this supposed to be happening? It is not supposed to happen but it is a known issue. I have been trying to track down the source of that issue several time without success. perhaps a minor inconsistency with beeing female? Its the only mod I have that even adds a refractory period. errr wait that might be a replanish period... EC adds refractory? too many mods always getting them confused. Although now that i think on it let me tell a brief story it might (and I mean "might") shed some light. using immerslave new male master start (the start in black reach) as soon as i loaded in the warlock or whatever attacked. had on ragged trousers or whatever the LAL prisoner clothes are and flame spell. needless to say I got destroyed and enslaved (SD enslavement) using RND, got tired and slept. dangerous nights activated and a chaurus enjoyed me. obtained parasite. continued playing awhile in that tiny room with not a lot to do for or to my master. let alone try to escape legitimately. got bored so reloaded to a previous save (back in the LAL prison before selecting my start. I never canceled my EC preg before back loading) could this have been the issue? maybe EC keeps a record in a Json file or something that is tied to character name so that when i loaded back since I still have same character name it keep some of the timers/settings from the EC preg? which then in turn mixed into the SD active effects?
drunken toad Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 Wow great update skyrimll, quick question how are animations picked when your bound I haven't registered zaz animations, but I'm getting animations like DD_zap(Lesbian) alot when enslaved despite my master being male, Is there anyway to use normal animations or disable certain zap animations? I have checked mcm options for all 3 mods and I couldn't find anything, Thanks for the mod.
acac Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 Hi, great job with the mod! I was just wondering, is this normal? I got enslaved, and when I talk to my master, the only option is "Sorry sir you were saying something?" from SlaveRun. I don't have any other dialogue options (no passive or aggressive options, either). Is this normal? What if I get hungry or thirsty? Thanks! P.S - Oh yeah, how do I "get on my knees"? Thanks, again!
Budroi Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 Hi, great job with the mod! I was just wondering, is this normal? I got enslaved, and when I talk to my master, the only option is "Sorry sir you were saying something?" from SlaveRun. I don't have any other dialogue options (no passive or aggressive options, either). Is this normal? What if I get hungry or thirsty? Thanks! did you install dialogues? you should at least have the "update dialogues" or whatever the message is labeled as. cant remember right now because i have been free for the last hour or so. FYI... Being freed was hilarious. my master (a random forsworn women) got killed by a mudcrab. best freedom ever... I think Sam's looking out for me. lol.
acac Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 Hi, great job with the mod! I was just wondering, is this normal? I got enslaved, and when I talk to my master, the only option is "Sorry sir you were saying something?" from SlaveRun. I don't have any other dialogue options (no passive or aggressive options, either). Is this normal? What if I get hungry or thirsty? Thanks! did you install dialogues? you should at least have the "update dialogues" or whatever the message is labeled as. cant remember right now because i have been free for the last hour or so. FYI... Being freed was hilarious. my master (a random forsworn women) got killed by a mudcrab. best freedom ever... I think Sam's looking out for me. lol. Ah, that helps! Thanks!
Min Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 Im not sure but is this supposed to be happening? It is not supposed to happen but it is a known issue. I have been trying to track down the source of that issue several time without success. The "Missing Name" on the shackles is caused by you putting the player-visible enchantment (For the slow effect) on the rendered item ("Which does not have a name"), rather than on the inventory device.
Min Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 Wow great update skyrimll, quick question how are animations picked when your bound I haven't registered zaz animations, but I'm getting animations like DD_zap(Lesbian) alot when enslaved despite my master being male, Is there anyway to use normal animations or disable certain zap animations? I have checked mcm options for all 3 mods and I couldn't find anything, Thanks for the mod. That's probably being caused by the updated animation filter functionality, from DDi (Integration handles animation selection). One of the major changes for 2.8.3, was an overhaul of the way that bound sex animations are processed. Can you post a copy of your Papyrus.0.log, in which this occurs for you?
Majin Buu Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 So I got enslaved and did nothing but insult and spit in the owners face. On day 6 I asked if I could go now. Owner invited me to join them. Odd thing to offer to someone who was defiant and disrespectful. Should it be like that?
spoonsinger Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 I got captured, (as you do), and was clothed in a Roughspun Tunic with collar and hand restraints, (as expected). However due to being a particularly poor slave I got the 'you can't wear cloths effect'. This didn't remove the tunic. However after being accosted by the owner subsequently I got the 'You are not allowed to wear clothing. Your collar compels you to remove it' message. What it was removing, (from the message on the screen), were the Squirt and Gush effects, (I assume from Sexlab Squirt), but it still didn't remove the tunic.
Buffmutti Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 The Collar even removes gags, after one of my useless escape attempts my master forced me to wear a gag and 1 second later the collar removed the gag, because i am not allowed to wear clothes. I wonder what the tunic is? Well, something is wrong. Whenever i try to escape the screen goes black and then i'm back near my owner. Doing positive things (being a good slave) doesn't give a reward (the level never rises, it stays on the negative number and that number becomes higher and higher, every day), but if i do negative things i get a reward (and the level becomes lower and lower). Its not a problem with giving the owner gold or food, because i never reach that level, hell, i never even reach level 1, i start with level -1 and from that point it goes only down, never up.
DeepBlueFrog Posted December 11, 2014 Author Posted December 11, 2014 The Collar even removes gags, after one of my useless escape attempts my master forced me to wear a gag and 1 second later the collar removed the gag, because i am not allowed to wear clothes. I wonder what the tunic is? The tunic is given to you by the master automatically if you uncheck 'Hardcore mode'. I will have a fix out tonight for items removed by the collar tonight. Well, something is wrong. Whenever i try to escape the screen goes black and then i'm back near my owner. Doing positive things (being a good slave) doesn't give a reward (the level never rises, it stays on the negative number and that number becomes higher and higher, every day), but if i do negative things i get a reward (and the level becomes lower and lower). Being teleported back to your owner when you try to escape is normal. That's the new ranged leash for slaves with low trust from their master. As your master's trust increases, you will be switched to a timed leash, which will allow you to go away from your master for a certain amount of time. Level should be set to 1 automatically when slavery starts. I will check the code and see why it would remain at -1. Check the logfile for 'exposure'. That's the count of sex and punishments that will dictate which slavery level you receive. Its not a problem with giving the owner gold or food, because i never reach that level, hell, i never even reach level 1, i start with level -1 and from that point it goes only down, never up.
magicrealm Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 Tested the mod and everything i saw was running very good, except when sold to another one the screen was in a greenish world with a brown building, the character flying around until he falled down to silverblood inn or belethor. my critics is, that it is not possible to end the slavement in any way. you cant escape, which i like very much, and you cant get the real favour of the master. that never worked for me in sd since the beginning. there are so many dialogues now to fuck and whip, one more dialogue or console command to simple end the enslavement would do good here. i like hte new dialogue System during enslavement, but not when talking to every npc all day long, as said in that mods post. especially the please can you spare some coins with 200.000 Gold in your pocket is not fun. the dialogues thrown at all npc must be at least optional to disable in mcm and a possibility to end the enslavement in some short way would make this mod playable.
DeepBlueFrog Posted December 11, 2014 Author Posted December 11, 2014 Tested the mod and everything i saw was running very good, except when sold to another one the screen was in a greenish world with a brown building, the character flying around until he falled down to silverblood inn or belethor. my critics is, that it is not possible to end the slavement in any way. you cant escape, which i like very much, and you cant get the real favour of the master. that never worked for me in sd since the beginning. there are so many dialogues now to fuck and whip, one more dialogue or console command to simple end the enslavement would do good here. i like hte new dialogue System during enslavement, but not when talking to every npc all day long, as said in that mods post. especially the please can you spare some coins with 200.000 Gold in your pocket is not fun. the dialogues thrown at all npc must be at least optional to disable in mcm and a possibility to end the enslavement in some short way would make this mod playable. If you want enslavement to last longer, go into your SD menu and set 'Min days to join' and 'Disposition threshold' to the maximum values. 15 days to join is a long time in Skyrim. If you want a single command to end enslavement, the Safeword option has been available in the menu for many versions now. As I said in the Dialogues forum thread, there will be a menu to configure Dialogues options eventually. It is just not a priority right now. I have too many other more important things to do.
Vithiss Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 Greetings, the new version is, so far, fabulous, thank you! a couple of notes: the known collar issue is also preventing Sexlab Squirt from working (turning it off removes the messages with no problems, just thought I'd mention it for the fix in the works). like the blackout when you try to just run away a lot have not yet been able to get above first slave rank or to get positive numbers for owner's disposition, but am enjoying experimenting anyway when sold to the Markarth inn my iron collar was replaced by a leather one, is this indicative of anything other than the owner's preference? again, wonderful stuff and thank you
DeepBlueFrog Posted December 11, 2014 Author Posted December 11, 2014 Greetings, the new version is, so far, fabulous, thank you! a couple of notes: the known collar issue is also preventing Sexlab Squirt from working (turning it off removes the messages with no problems, just thought I'd mention it for the fix in the works). like the blackout when you try to just run away a lot have not yet been able to get above first slave rank or to get positive numbers for owner's disposition, but am enjoying experimenting anyway when sold to the Markarth inn my iron collar was replaced by a leather one, is this indicative of anything other than the owner's preference? again, wonderful stuff and thank you Thanks! The leather collar does indicate a preference from the master but does not have an impact on their personality (although that could be an interesting idea to explore). There are a few 'slavery gear sets' available to master at this point: - Common set: medieval iron - Wealthy set: leather - Random set: Keyword based (could give you anything registered as a generic device) - Primitive set (for falmers): just a collar and cuffs On top of that, you also have: - Sanguine set: spectral items - Spriggan set: root armor Eventually, that system can be extended into other preferences based on faction, job, race or even individuals.
eric_starbuck Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 Another question: i managed to steal the key from benetor, since i was not able to get the ranking going positive and it was very boring to wait all night since "it is not possible to sleep while they ask you to leave". Now when i encounter him, as you said, he still recognise me and I can select the slave dialogues. then a pop-up message appears saying something like: "i will show you how a slave should behave" or something... i Click OK, but then nothig happens. I was expecting to be enslaved again. EDIT: if you have the captured dream shop gear on you, it is too easy beat your master after enslavement as he cannot bind your hands and use the SD kneeling collar. therefore you can pick up wheapons and kill him easily since it needs several hits to recognise you as an enemy. can you do something about this?
magicrealm Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 Another question: i managed to steal the key from benetor, since i was not able to get the ranking going positive and it was very boring to wait all night since "it is not possible to sleep while they ask you to leave". Now when i encounter him, as you said, he still recognise me and I can select the slave dialogues. then a pop-up message appears saying something like: "i will show you how a slave should behave" or something... i Click OK, but then nothig happens. I was expecting to be enslaved again. EDIT: if you have the captured dream shop gear on you, it is too easy beat your master after enslavement as he cannot bind your hands and use the SD kneeling collar. therefore you can pick up wheapons and kill him easily since it needs several hits to recognise you as an enemy. can you do something about this? i tell you how easy you can kill the master : tipp kill in the consols. can you do something about this?
magicrealm Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 Tested the mod and everything i saw was running very good, except when sold to another one the screen was in a greenish world with a brown building, the character flying around until he falled down to silverblood inn or belethor. my critics is, that it is not possible to end the slavement in any way. you cant escape, which i like very much, and you cant get the real favour of the master. that never worked for me in sd since the beginning. there are so many dialogues now to fuck and whip, one more dialogue or console command to simple end the enslavement would do good here. i like hte new dialogue System during enslavement, but not when talking to every npc all day long, as said in that mods post. especially the please can you spare some coins with 200.000 Gold in your pocket is not fun. the dialogues thrown at all npc must be at least optional to disable in mcm and a possibility to end the enslavement in some short way would make this mod playable. If you want enslavement to last longer, go into your SD menu and set 'Min days to join' and 'Disposition threshold' to the maximum values. 15 days to join is a long time in Skyrim. If you want a single command to end enslavement, the Safeword option has been available in the menu for many versions now. As I said in the Dialogues forum thread, there will be a menu to configure Dialogues options eventually. It is just not a priority right now. I have too many other more important things to do. i did not knew that the safeword is to end the enslavement. i thught it is to repair bugs. i will test it. about the dialogues : can you please say where in the ck i can find the dialogues "spare some coins" and "gift for you",so i can delete those manually. i cant find them.
eric_starbuck Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 LOL! Sorry if it was a silly question. I would love SD to be the mod number 1 and make it able to remove all other devices from other mods.
DeepBlueFrog Posted December 11, 2014 Author Posted December 11, 2014 Tested the mod and everything i saw was running very good, except when sold to another one the screen was in a greenish world with a brown building, the character flying around until he falled down to silverblood inn or belethor. my critics is, that it is not possible to end the slavement in any way. you cant escape, which i like very much, and you cant get the real favour of the master. that never worked for me in sd since the beginning. there are so many dialogues now to fuck and whip, one more dialogue or console command to simple end the enslavement would do good here. i like hte new dialogue System during enslavement, but not when talking to every npc all day long, as said in that mods post. especially the please can you spare some coins with 200.000 Gold in your pocket is not fun. the dialogues thrown at all npc must be at least optional to disable in mcm and a possibility to end the enslavement in some short way would make this mod playable. If you want enslavement to last longer, go into your SD menu and set 'Min days to join' and 'Disposition threshold' to the maximum values. 15 days to join is a long time in Skyrim. If you want a single command to end enslavement, the Safeword option has been available in the menu for many versions now. As I said in the Dialogues forum thread, there will be a menu to configure Dialogues options eventually. It is just not a priority right now. I have too many other more important things to do. i did not knew that the safeword is to end the enslavement. i thught it is to repair bugs. i will test it. about the dialogues : can you please say where in the ck i can find the dialogues "spare some coins" and "gift for you",so i can delete those manually. i cant find them. Look in the main controller quest, under dialogue views. These topics are handled by the 'GiveTake' topic branch.
DeepBlueFrog Posted December 11, 2014 Author Posted December 11, 2014 Another question: i managed to steal the key from benetor, since i was not able to get the ranking going positive and it was very boring to wait all night since "it is not possible to sleep while they ask you to leave". Now when i encounter him, as you said, he still recognise me and I can select the slave dialogues. then a pop-up message appears saying something like: "i will show you how a slave should behave" or something... i Click OK, but then nothig happens. I was expecting to be enslaved again. EDIT: if you have the captured dream shop gear on you, it is too easy beat your master after enslavement as he cannot bind your hands and use the SD kneeling collar. therefore you can pick up wheapons and kill him easily since it needs several hits to recognise you as an enemy. can you do something about this? Thanks... One of the things I need to improve is proper detection the slave is hitting the master (with a weapon and not with a hidden magical cloak effect from another mod). Until then, it will be easy to kill the owner once your hands are free and your trust level is high enough to hold a weapon.
spoonsinger Posted December 11, 2014 Posted December 11, 2014 Skyrill - Re :- "The tunic is given to you by the master automatically if you uncheck 'Hardcore mode'." Sorry to be a pain, but Hardcore was on when I got the tunic. (ducks back into the shadows).
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