Animal Research: The Insatiable Scholar

[Alex749]

2 hours ago, killer905 said:

Ideas are always welcome! Even suggestions that would make the task more coherent overall, without plot holes, are welcome.

I hope what you said can be put in, i like that it gives options of danger or just another thing do research than move on. 

[leking]

Back on it.

 

So i removed the animal research npc replacer and then everything went fine no more crach. I don"t know why but it seems to be the issue.

 

the sprigan quest:

 

-Nyssia had a black face (see picture) 

-Sprigan was dickless (no idea why)

-I am a little confused are we not supposed to go back to ingun to give her the sap after that ? i went back to black briar lodge and suddenly ragnar just arrived from nowhere (he was supposed to be at his stable). i had to tell him to go back to the stables. 

 

Ingun was already gone so i went to riften but she had nothing to say. I know it is not a bug i just felt i was supposed to give her the sap even if it is not written in the quest menu. Do i have to come back later after some other trigger?

 

Currently at the party (stil pleasuring guests):

 

-A lot of npc including my pc are clipping while not even being in sex animation. People sitting, other standing ... a lot of them are clipping and i don't know why.

 

-Also maybe it is just me but i am experiencing an awfull noise bug like some object is constantly falling and entering in colision somewhere so i keep hearing this loud collision noise.... again i don't know if it is because of my mods or if something just did not spawned right. Impossible to find the object it was invisible, at least for me.

 

when tyrwin started to get in action and pleasure she chose a women and started a lesbian scene that never ended (i am still pleasuring guest and far away from the 14 left so i am not sure if it is an issue) is she supposed to remain with the same guest when i am taking the rest of them ?

 

Sex with the ghost was fun cause you can see through him and admire an awsome gape from my pc (see picture  )

 

Some idea or suggestion:

 

When i saw the 2 troll coming to nyssia forest and attack i was expecting them to come to rape/have rough sex with nyssia and my girls than fight.

 

Would have been fun if Nyssia would suddenly say "no do not hit them i will take care of them just go free the sprigan" . And then when you come back you see her in the middle of action with one of them (just like in animal mansion when you come back the first time and find the girl getting fucked by the dog).

 

I saw in previous message someone saying that he wanted more thalmor or danger to fight. At the beginning of the mod i was thinking the same but after playing more i remembred that in skyrim everything already try to kill you . To be honest i don"t think it would bring something more. I was more thinking of some complementary mod list that would be acting in sinergy with animal research. Maybe making a seperate commentary and event mod for tyrwin to comment and get in action in various situation. Or adding some habits to her when you are in your home.

 

She could for example automatically have fun with ragnar or storm when you are in the safety of an owned property.

 

[Donuts4me]

4 hours ago, leking said:

-I am a little confused are we not supposed to go back to ingun to give her the sap after that ? i went back to black briar lodge and suddenly ragnar just arrived from nowhere (he was supposed to be at his stable). i had to tell him to go back to the stables. 

 

Ingun was already gone so i went to riften but she had nothing to say. I know it is not a bug i just felt i was supposed to give her the sap even if it is not written in the quest menu. Do i have to come back later after some other trigger?

 

 

As I recall, Ingun is expecting samples from three different creatures. One down, two to go. I'm sure there are plans to go back to her when all the samples are collected in a later update.

 

4 hours ago, leking said:

-Also maybe it is just me but i am experiencing an awfull noise bug like some object is constantly falling and entering in colision somewhere so i keep hearing this loud collision noise.... again i don't know if it is because of my mods or if something just did not spawned right. Impossible to find the object it was invisible, at least for me.

 

 

I've had that happen not with this mod but others or even vanilla quests. Just a temporary bug. Reloading an earlier save usually fixes it for me.

 

4 hours ago, leking said:

 

when tyrwin started to get in action and pleasure she chose a women and started a lesbian scene that never ended (i am still pleasuring guest and far away from the 14 left so i am not sure if it is an issue) is she supposed to remain with the same guest when i am taking the rest of them ?

 

 

That is an SL issue. I saw it happening a lot long before this mod came out. Just go up to them and change the animation stage manually (Shift +H). Go to the last stage so it ends. If it gets stuck at that stage, go back to the second-to-last stage and see if it will advance from there.

 

4 hours ago, leking said:

When i saw the 2 troll coming to nyssia forest and attack i was expecting them to come to rape/have rough sex with nyssia and my girls than fight.

 

Would have been fun if Nyssia would suddenly say "no do not hit them i will take care of them just go free the sprigan" . And then when you come back you see her in the middle of action with one of them (just like in animal mansion when you come back the first time and find the girl getting fucked by the dog).

 

 

I don't remember seeing trolls at that part? Are you sure they were a part of this mod and not another? Maybe even vanilla? I don't think Gristle added any trolls here.

 

[killer905]

7 hours ago, Alex749 said:

I hope what you said can be put in, i like that it gives options of danger or just another thing do research than move on. 

In general, I can suggest to @Gristle that he include some kind of bad ending that would even fit in with the content that is currently being created (I can't say anything about that). However, it is up to Gristle to make the final decision on whether this will be included, and even if not at this time, it could be added as part of QoL by adding more bad ending content, etc.

Edited October 8, 2025 by killer905

[killer905]

5 hours ago, leking said:

I am a little confused are we not supposed to go back to ingun to give her the sap after that ? i went back to black briar lodge and suddenly ragnar just arrived from nowhere (he was supposed to be at his stable). i had to tell him to go back to the stables. 

 

Ingun was already gone so i went to riften but she had nothing to say. I know it is not a bug i just felt i was supposed to give her the sap even if it is not written in the quest menu. Do i have to come back later after some other trigger?

You don't need to bring sap to Ingun, as she can gather it herself thanks to the knowledge she gained from the book.

1 hour ago, Donuts4me said:

As I recall, Ingun is expecting samples from three different creatures. One down, two to go. I'm sure there are plans to go back to her when all the samples are collected in a later update.

Ingun wants sperm from a bear, a troll, and a falmer (two of them will appear during the quest ‘Unknown Pleasures’).

5 hours ago, leking said:

When i saw the 2 troll coming to nyssia forest and attack i was expecting them to come to rape/have rough sex with nyssia and my girls than fight.

 

Would have been fun if Nyssia would suddenly say "no do not hit them i will take care of them just go free the sprigan" . And then when you come back you see her in the middle of action with one of them (just like in animal mansion when you come back the first time and find the girl getting fucked by the dog).

 

1 hour ago, Donuts4me said:

I don't remember seeing trolls at that part? Are you sure they were a part of this mod and not another? Maybe even vanilla? I don't think Gristle added any trolls here.

I think it's a random event from vanilla or another mod.

But I had an idea that if Ragnar follows Tirwin and we tell Nyssia that he will go with her, then when he returns, Ragnar would have sex with her, but it was rejected because there was already quite a lot of sex in this quest (Ingun and Nyssia).

 

6 hours ago, leking said:

Sex with the ghost was fun cause you can see through him and admire an awsome gape from my pc (see picture  )

I see you don't have the Billy Invisible pack animation. If you did, the sex would take place on the bed.

 

6 hours ago, leking said:

I saw in previous message someone saying that he wanted more thalmor or danger to fight. At the beginning of the mod i was thinking the same but after playing more i remembred that in skyrim everything already try to kill you . To be honest i don"t think it would bring something more. I was more thinking of some complementary mod list that would be acting in sinergy with animal research. Maybe making a seperate commentary and event mod for tyrwin to comment and get in action in various situation. Or adding some habits to her when you are in your home.

 

She could for example automatically have fun with ragnar or storm when you are in the safety of an owned property.

It depends on how much someone has modded the game. For you, it's already a big threat, but for me, it's definitely not enough.

I think it would be possible to add an option for Tirwin to have sex in the PC's house (probably only in vanilla homes) on her own, without the PC's interference. In the case of Heartfire properties with storms in their vicinity.

 

However, I would add this option as a to-do thing for QoL sometime in the future.

[eflat01]

19 hours ago, leking said:

So i removed the animal research npc replacer and then everything went fine no more crach. I don"t know why but it seems to be the issue.

 

That replacer does not match some of the key attributes of npc's in later versions of AR.

 

19 hours ago, leking said:

the sprigan quest:

 

-Nyssia had a black face (see picture) 

-Sprigan was dickless (no idea why)

-I am a little confused are we not supposed to go back to ingun to give her the sap after that ? i went back to black briar lodge and suddenly ragnar just arrived from nowhere (he was supposed to be at his stable). i had to tell him to go back to the stables. 

 

I don't get blackface ever, but I have a mod preventing that. Maybe you lost Nyssia's .nif or overwrote it at some point?  @killer905 the facegen could probably be verified again in CK?

 

Sprigans generally are dickless, i.e. check the nifs in More Nasty Critters ... what they fuck within the animations actually look like branches.

 

No but yes that's a common misconception since she gave you the bottles.

1. She never requests you to bring them back
2. There was initially an issue with the empty bottle, so that may be a issue still in gathering cum.
3. @killer905 There's enough work ahead but it would be nice if at some point Ingrun would have a buy or reward option if they did bring her bottles of cum. 

 

19 hours ago, leking said:

When i saw the 2 troll coming to nyssia forest and attack i was expecting them to come to rape/have rough sex with nyssia and my girls than fight.

 

 

If you have trolls in that area, you've ether another mod putting some closee or you drew them there going to the Spriggan.

 

19 hours ago, leking said:

saw in previous message someone saying that he wanted more thalmor or danger to fight. At the beginning of the mod i was thinking the same but after playing more i remembred that in skyrim everything already try to kill you . To be honest i don"t think it would bring something more. I was more thinking of some complementary mod list that would be acting in sinergy with animal research. Maybe making a seperate commentary and event mod for tyrwin to comment and get in action in various situation. Or adding some habits to her when you are in your home.

 

They're in the middle of the next set of functionality but are considering things like bad ending's etc... btw the next chapter does seem very interesting.

 

19 hours ago, leking said:

She could for example automatically have fun with ragnar or storm when you are in the safety of an owned property.

 

She does out in the wilderness if you ask her, I suppose it would not take very much to treat a player home  or Hearthfire property like such? She does want to "not be caught in public" however, so that needs to be considered.

 

It's not just a f me mod, There are storylines and npc personalities to the madness.

Edited October 8, 2025 by eflat01

[killer905]

1 hour ago, eflat01 said:

I don't get blackface ever, but I have a mod preventing that. Maybe you lost Nyssia's .nif or overwrote it at some point?  @killer905 the facegen could probably be verified again in CK?

 

Sprigans generally are dickless, i.e. check the nifs in More Nasty Critters ... what they fuck within the animations actually look like branches.

 

No but yes that's a common misconception since she gave you the bottles.

1. She never requests you to bring them back
2. There was initially an issue with the empty bottle, so that may be a issue still in gathering cum.
3. @killer905 There's enough work ahead but it would be nice if at some point Ingrun would have a buy or reward option if they did bring her bottles of cum. 

If you have the Creation Kit, you can regenerate it or use: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/42441

 

2) The broken bottle is still in the game, but it is simply not given to Tirwin's EQ, which caused CTD when opening her inventory.
3) Technically, Ingun already has the reward in the form of the ‘Storm’ horse for Bear, Troll and Falmer sperm (not yet added).

1 hour ago, eflat01 said:

They're in the middle of the next set of functionality but are considering things like bad ending's etc... btw the next chapter does seem very interesting.

To tell the truth, the current quest we are working on is begging for some kind of bad ending for Tirwin. Will it be implemented? Only Gristle can decide that now.

1 hour ago, eflat01 said:

She does out in the wilderness if you ask her, I suppose it would not take very much to treat a player home  or Hearthfire property like such? She does want to "not be caught in public" however, so that needs to be considered.

 

It's not just a f me mod, There are storylines and npc personalities to the madness.

To tell the truth, after the fourth creation, he would probably have no objection to fucking the creation on his own, e.g. at PC's house, but of course he would need PC's permission in this matter and would need to know whether there are children or PC's spouse at home.

[leking]

Idea to bring new interaction with thalmor:

 

-Maybe put some more random patroll of them searching and spying for tyrwin that you have to avoid

 

-Put some random lone spy in cities and village that spawn and you have to secretely take them down

 

-Create specific small camp around the map that you can attack and burn to lower their presence in the area and make patroll and spyes disappear.

 

-Make agreement with local werewolves so they will huntdown thalmor agent or come to help in fight against them in exchange for having sex with them

 

PC or tyrwin could gain some kind of spell to howl at night to attract werewolves to the team and then be able to speak with them for asking their help against thalmor

 

This could be an interesting mechanic as PC and tyrwin are slowly becoming one with nature and its creature.

Edited October 8, 2025 by leking

[Goblets]

Wow what an amazing story with hot dialogues! i also really liked the castle volkihar part : ) such a cool idea! Tirwin is such a great character!

 

Im so excited for this mod to continue! you are a very talented modder!

[Guardian_Angel]

Just completed a playthru on the latest release and loved it.
I am a VR player and i play as a male nord to which i bring up these concerns.

there as some scenes that will not auto-start most of the time, like the friendly giants, the markarth horse, and the reiklings. those are easily solved by using a SL MM spell to target both and after the scene completes, she continues.
there is one consistent blockage where i need to use the console to progress and that's on the ship ride back to solitude from Solsthim. it has never completed in all my playthrus and gets stuck right before Tirwin is to entertain the dog. even if i use a MM spell, after the scene it still wont progress. i have to use the console to progress.

 

Last thing is that the when at the party pleasuring guests, the bar maid's, the prisoner and the ghost see my PC as a Male (which is correct), but all the other guest (male or female) see me as a female with dialog and animation and i have to use SL trigger to swap roles. this seems to be consistent. 

None of the above are show stoppers and i was able to workaround them, i just want to give some feedback and let you know i really enjoy it. 

and the Volkihar quest was F'in awesome! the jumps scares in VR are a whole new level of scary...

Edited October 9, 2025 by Guardian_Angel

[killer905]

On 10/8/2025 at 11:52 PM, leking said:

Idea to bring new interaction with thalmor:

 

-Maybe put some more random patroll of them searching and spying for tyrwin that you have to avoid

 

-Put some random lone spy in cities and village that spawn and you have to secretely take them down

 

-Create specific small camp around the map that you can attack and burn to lower their presence in the area and make patroll and spyes disappear.

 

-Make agreement with local werewolves so they will huntdown thalmor agent or come to help in fight against them in exchange for having sex with them

 

PC or tyrwin could gain some kind of spell to howl at night to attract werewolves to the team and then be able to speak with them for asking their help against thalmor

 

This could be an interesting mechanic as PC and tyrwin are slowly becoming one with nature and its creature.

I would include these things in the QoL update.

[killer905]

On 10/9/2025 at 7:38 AM, Goblets said:

Wow what an amazing story with hot dialogues! i also really liked the castle volkihar part : ) such a cool idea! Tirwin is such a great character!

 

Im so excited for this mod to continue! you are a very talented modder!

Tirwin would "like" your post, but our technology is ahead of Skyrim's time.

[killer905]

23 hours ago, Guardian_Angel said:

Just completed a playthru on the latest release and loved it.
I am a VR player and i play as a male nord to which i bring up these concerns.

there as some scenes that will not auto-start most of the time, like the friendly giants, the markarth horse, and the reiklings. those are easily solved by using a SL MM spell to target both and after the scene completes, she continues.
there is one consistent blockage where i need to use the console to progress and that's on the ship ride back to solitude from Solsthim. it has never completed in all my playthrus and gets stuck right before Tirwin is to entertain the dog. even if i use a MM spell, after the scene it still wont progress. i have to use the console to progress.

 

Last thing is that the when at the party pleasuring guests, the bar maid's, the prisoner and the ghost see my PC as a Male (which is correct), but all the other guest (male or female) see me as a female with dialog and animation and i have to use SL trigger to swap roles. this seems to be consistent. 

None of the above are show stoppers and i was able to workaround them, i just want to give some feedback and let you know i really enjoy it. 

and the Volkihar quest was F'in awesome! the jumps scares in VR are a whole new level of scary...

It sounds like you have SexLab p+ installed, but unfortunately, due to a broken feature (in SexLab P+), it does not work properly with AR

[eflat01]

3 hours ago, killer905 said:

Last thing is that the when at the party pleasuring guests, the bar maid's, the prisoner and the ghost see my PC as a Male (which is correct), but all the other guest (male or female) see me as a female with dialog and animation and i have to use SL trigger to swap roles. this seems to be consistent. 

 

I know the prisoner and ghost use specific animations and/or tags ... not sure about the barmaid?

 

Edit: Nevermind yes, the barmaids are very specific searches.

 

I think when soliciting it looks like the PC is on the receiving end?

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 10, 2025 by eflat01

[killer905]

4 hours ago, eflat01 said:

 

I know the prisoner and ghost use specific animations and/or tags ... not sure about the barmaid?

 

Edit: Nevermind yes, the barmaids are very specific searches.

 

I think when soliciting it looks like the PC is on the receiving end?

 

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Emm, huh? Why i get ping?

[eflat01]

5 hours ago, killer905 said:

Emm, huh? Why i get ping?

 

It's  quite likely that Dibella always summons the mighty devs - her heroes. 😏

 

It's either that or I had @ you before I buckled down and took the time to load up the mod in CK to look for myself. 😆

Edited October 11, 2025 by eflat01

[Guardian_Angel]

12 hours ago, killer905 said:

It sounds like you have SexLab p+ installed, but unfortunately, due to a broken feature (in SexLab P+), it does not work properly with AR

I do not, and I'm not even sure they added support for SkyrimVR so I dunno... it was strange for only this quest and while im no Papyrus scripter, i have read it that it could be that the script to kick off the animation is not marking the 1st actor the PC, so i just wanted to bring it up. If this is not happening to you or others then it must be VR or my version of SL causing the issue, BTW im running SL 1.6.3 which was the last version to work on VR, at least in my experience.

[killer905]

5 hours ago, Guardian_Angel said:

I do not, and I'm not even sure they added support for SkyrimVR so I dunno... it was strange for only this quest and while im no Papyrus scripter, i have read it that it could be that the script to kick off the animation is not marking the 1st actor the PC, so i just wanted to bring it up. If this is not happening to you or others then it must be VR or my version of SL causing the issue, BTW im running SL 1.6.3 which was the last version to work on VR, at least in my experience.

Unfortunately, it is difficult for me to determine what might be the cause in your case, as I personally do not have VR Skyrim ;/

And the only thing I know is that Skyrim VR has its own weirdness.

[eflat01]

12 hours ago, Guardian_Angel said:

I do not, and I'm not even sure they added support for SkyrimVR so I dunno... it was strange for only this quest and while im no Papyrus scripter, i have read it that it could be that the script to kick off the animation is not marking the 1st actor the PC, so i just wanted to bring it up. If this is not happening to you or others then it must be VR or my version of SL causing the issue, BTW im running SL 1.6.3 which was the last version to work on VR, at least in my experience.

 

 I'd been pondering about this

 

On 10/9/2025 at 11:06 AM, Guardian_Angel said:

am a VR player and i play as a male nord to which i bring up these concerns.

there as some scenes that will not auto-start most of the time, like the friendly giants, the markarth horse, and the reiklings. those are easily solved by using a SL MM spell to target both and after the scene completes, she continues.
there is one consistent blockage where i need to use the console to progress and that's on the ship ride back to solitude from Solsthim. it has never completed in all my playthrus and gets stuck right before Tirwin is to entertain the dog. even if i use a MM spell, after the scene it still wont progress. i have to use the console to progress.

 

@killer905, @Gristle Giants, Markart Horse and Reiklings? If I recall correctly aren't most these scenes they're describing which seem to be failing invoked via trigger markers?

 

 

[Denis7335]

I can't seem to start the quest. I went to the bandit camp but there is no Wolf present, quest marker just floats in the air. 
Also I have aquired the book and carry it in my inventory but the quest still says to retreave it but the quest marker vanished after i picked it up.
There are no dialogue options with Tirwin.

[killer905]

14 minutes ago, Denis7335 said:

I can't seem to start the quest. I went to the bandit camp but there is no Wolf present, quest marker just floats in the air. 
Also I have aquired the book and carry it in my inventory but the quest still says to retreave it but the quest marker vanished after i picked it up.
There are no dialogue options with Tirwin.

Easy option. Load save after you enter to book lacation or use command setstage quest_name id_stage

 

And don't speed updialogue this can broke some scripts.

 

All are here: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/234579-animal-research-the-insatiable-scholar/page/48/#findComment-7006290

Edited October 11, 2025 by killer905

[Mineral4K]

How can I replay the quest or the chain? After completing the storyline, the elf simply stops following me. "restartquest " doesn't help

Edited October 12, 2025 by Mineral4K

[Gristle]

On 10/12/2025 at 12:37 PM, Mineral4K said:

How can I replay the quest or the chain? After completing the storyline, the elf simply stops following me. "restartquest " doesn't help

Where did the story end for you? My guess is that you didn't complete all the quests and something else happened.

[Gristle]

On 10/7/2025 at 3:45 PM, leking said:

-A lot of npc including my pc are clipping while not even being in sex animation. People sitting, other standing ... a lot of them are clipping and i don't know why.

Clipping what? Furniture? Walls?

On 10/7/2025 at 3:45 PM, leking said:

when tyrwin started to get in action and pleasure she chose a women and started a lesbian scene that never ended (i am still pleasuring guest and far away from the 14 left so i am not sure if it is an issue) is she supposed to remain with the same guest when i am taking the rest of them ?

This happened to me too. The code is just the normal Sexlab function. Maybe it's the animation?

On 10/7/2025 at 3:45 PM, leking said:

When i saw the 2 troll coming to nyssia forest and attack i was expecting them to come to rape/have rough sex with nyssia and my girls than fight.

The enemies near clearing are actually disabled during the quest to prevent interruptions. Do you have a mod that spawns more enemies?

On 10/7/2025 at 3:45 PM, leking said:

I was more thinking of some complementary mod list that would be acting in sinergy with animal research. Maybe making a seperate commentary and event mod for tyrwin to comment and get in action in various situation. Or adding some habits to her when you are in your home.

The intention is to build those kinds of comments into the mod. Also, her "home" activities will be expanded.

On 10/7/2025 at 3:45 PM, leking said:

She could for example automatically have fun with ragnar or storm when you are in the safety of an owned property.

I'm always concerned that "automatic" events (especially ones that take several minutes to finish) can be annoying for players who are just trying to do something else. So, I think something like this should be more of an automatic request ("Do we have time for ...")

[Mineral4K]

20 minutes ago, Gristle said:

Чем закончилась для тебя история? Полагаю, ты не выполнил все задания, или случилось что-то ещё.

I completed all the story missions, checked them against the guide, and at the end I received a notification that that was all for now and that I could continue traveling with Tirvin. I dismissed her from my companions, but she was still nearby, appearing and leaving - then after some time she reappeared, and she had no new lines in the tavern.