Evi1Panda Posted February 23 Author Posted February 23 (edited) 12 hours ago, Tseverin said: This is just fucking silly. Virtue signal much? All I said was I want to make effort to understand and fix this but I just don't have the time or the consciousness (without falling asleep trying to delve to into this). I was hoping to appeal to your good senses and maybe elaborate what it is that I need to do. I'm not getting the results in doing the things you're telling me to do as if they were that simple. I have to admit I was very sleepy yet eager to find a solution to my problem. You're as emotional as anyone else and saying things that are not accurate. This is the direct result of following your instructions to a 'T'. More silly bullshit. Do you really think you need you to say that? Maybe. I don't know who you spend your time talking to, but that is not what is going here. Not once did I claim I was owed anything. Haha, It's not even a little appropriate for you say that. So now, thank you for stepping out of all that and helping me look into this. I don't know anything about coding or papyrus. I wish I knew what this means. I will make an effort to, though. If you could tell me what it is I need to change, I will do so. This is just a fucking game. I'm not trying to be at odds with someone 10,000 miles away over it. This is suppose to be fun and for an adult, a get away from our silly daily bullshit. Yes, man, sorry, I didn’t read everything completely. Think what you want, let’s stop communicating with you at this point. You just want me to waste some of my time on you, but I don't want to. This is all. We finished the conversation. We just don’t understand each other, communication doesn’t work, so there’s no need to torture each other. Regarding the fact that our dialogue did not work out - well, I’m sorry if there is any resentment left, I didn’t want to offend anyone, but I would like to answer as directly as possible: right now I don’t have time to deal with personal user care. And it's unlikely to appear soon. Moreover, there is no such desire. This is why I wrote all these rules and documentation - so that people would resolve their issues on their own as much as possible, bringing only real, repeatable and log-confirmed problems/errors that can be solved. I want to minimize communication, not expand it. To focus exclusively on modder's work, and not on users stories. Edited February 23 by Evi1Panda
waiyan Posted February 23 Posted February 23 How do I fix male npcs and creatures not having boner during sex scene?
Evi1Panda Posted February 23 Author Posted February 23 (edited) 8 hours ago, waiyan said: How do I fix male npcs and creatures not having boner during sex scene? This isn't an NAF bug or game issue. It's a screw-up in your animations/positions. The erection morph is either set in positionData via startMorphSet="ready", or added in animationData like this: <morph id="Erection" to="1.000000"/> If male NPCs and creatures aren't getting boners, your animation pack either doesn't have it at all or it's set up wrong. This won't be fixed by reinstalling frameworks, slapping on patches, or hoping it magically works. You simply have a broken/incomplete pack. Switch to proven packs that work out of the box. I know this war — "user vs. reality" — all too well, so I can already predict the reply: "No, I'm not like that, I followed every instruction exactly." Still gonna say it: in most cases, this happens because the user has a random mishmash of everything installed, thrown together haphazardly just to "have more stuff." Edited February 23 by Evi1Panda
dav42 Posted February 24 Posted February 24 I'm having an issue after the first NAF scene plays the PC no longer has lip movement in dialogue. This seems to affect versions after 1.51, tested 1.52 and 1.53.3.
waiyan Posted February 24 Posted February 24 6 hours ago, Evi1Panda said: This isn't an NAF bug or game issue. It's a screw-up in your animations/positions. The erection morph is either set in positionData via startMorphSet="ready", or added in animationData like this: <morph id="Erection" to="1.000000"/> If male NPCs and creatures aren't getting boners, your animation pack either doesn't have it at all or it's set up wrong. This won't be fixed by reinstalling frameworks, slapping on patches, or hoping it magically works. You simply have a broken/incomplete pack. Switch to proven packs that work out of the box. I know this war — "user vs. reality" — all too well, so I can already predict the reply: "No, I'm not like that, I followed every instruction exactly." Still gonna say it: in most cases, this happens because the user has a random mishmash of everything installed, thrown together haphazardly just to "have more stuff." I'm switching from AAF and boners used to work. I've uninstalled AAF and Ultimate AAF Patch. Still no luck. A user suggests to try putting a morphSetData XML file in NAF folder. If that's the case, how do I do that? How do I set up the animation pack?
Evi1Panda Posted February 24 Author Posted February 24 9 hours ago, dav42 said: I'm having an issue after the first NAF scene plays the PC no longer has lip movement in dialogue. This seems to affect versions after 1.51, tested 1.52 and 1.53.3. logs logs logs
Evi1Panda Posted February 24 Author Posted February 24 7 hours ago, waiyan said: I'm switching from AAF and boners used to work. I've uninstalled AAF and Ultimate AAF Patch. Still no luck. A user suggests to try putting a morphSetData XML file in NAF folder. If that's the case, how do I do that? How do I set up the animation pack? As I said shlong morph should be set in animationData or in positionData.
waiyan Posted February 24 Posted February 24 41 minutes ago, Evi1Panda said: As I said shlong morph should be set in animationData or in positionData. I have no idea how to that. Could you please give me a guide in detail?
dosfox Posted February 24 Posted February 24 39 minutes ago, waiyan said: I have no idea how to that. Try reinstalling Ultimate AAF Patch and then reNAFicate. The Ultimate AAF Patch is the mod that provides the xml files for erections etc.
waiyan Posted February 24 Posted February 24 1 hour ago, dosfox said: Try reinstalling Ultimate AAF Patch and then reNAFicate. The Ultimate AAF Patch is the mod that provides the xml files for erections etc. Done that. Still flaccid. Any ideas?
dosfox Posted February 24 Posted February 24 30 minutes ago, waiyan said: Done that. Still flaccid. Any ideas? So did you actually use NAFicator?
waiyan Posted February 24 Posted February 24 37 minutes ago, dosfox said: So did you actually use NAFicator? Yes. I installed it on MO2, let it run on game menu screen and disabled it again before testing.
Evi1Panda Posted February 24 Author Posted February 24 3 hours ago, waiyan said: I have no idea how to that. Could you please give me a guide in detail? Spoiler
waiyan Posted February 24 Posted February 24 10 minutes ago, Evi1Panda said: Reveal hidden contents Sorry to bother you again, man. What's the location of those xml files? I've searched NAF, NAF Bridge and NAficator folders.
Evi1Panda Posted February 24 Author Posted February 24 Aw, I forgot, there is another option - your male body is installed incorrectly.
Evi1Panda Posted February 24 Author Posted February 24 1 minute ago, waiyan said: Sorry to bother you again, man. What's the location of those xml files? I've searched NAF, NAF Bridge and NAficator folders. Located in Data/NAF or MO2/Overwrite/NAF
waiyan Posted February 24 Posted February 24 44 minutes ago, Evi1Panda said: Located in Data/NAF or MO2/Overwrite/NAF Here are my xml files. I opened and read them. The texts inside are like yours in that three images. What do I do? PandaXML.rar
dav42 Posted February 24 Posted February 24 9 hours ago, Evi1Panda said: logs logs logs Log, and video: https://streamable.com/i0wkpf After the scene you can see the PC is no longer lip syncing. This sometimes can linger on in all future dialogue, and also seems to be baked into the save because restarting the game after still exhibits the problem. aaSUPF4SEDebugPrint.txt
Evi1Panda Posted February 25 Author Posted February 25 (edited) 4 hours ago, dav42 said: Log, and video: https://streamable.com/i0wkpf After the scene you can see the PC is no longer lip syncing. This sometimes can linger on in all future dialogue, and also seems to be baked into the save because restarting the game after still exhibits the problem. aaSUPF4SEDebugPrint.txt 6.26 kB · 0 downloads I guess it is because Spoiler [NAF Bridge] [INFO] OnSceneEndEvent: scene=[id1 = 1, id2 = 0] [NAF Bridge] [INFO] Scene end processing: key=1000, actors=[[Actor < (00000014)>], [Actor <CharonREF (41001071)>]], duration=73s, actors=2 [NAF Bridge] [INFO] Applying MFG set: actor=[Actor < (00000014)>], setId='NR_Normal', loop=True, havok=False [NAF Bridge] [INFO] ApplyMfgSet: checking if MFG 'NR_Normal' is blocked for actor [Actor < (00000014)>] [NAF Bridge] [INFO] ApplyMfgSet: applying MFG set 'NR_Normal' to actor [Actor < (00000014)>] [NAF Bridge] [INFO] ApplyMfgSet: successfully applied 'NR_Normal' to actor [Actor < (00000014)>] I will look at this more carefully tomorrow. Edited February 25 by Evi1Panda
waiyan Posted February 25 Posted February 25 19 hours ago, waiyan said: Here are my xml files. I opened and read them. The texts inside are like yours in that three images. What do I do? PandaXML.rar 236.4 kB · 1 download What value should I change in these xml files?
Evi1Panda Posted February 26 Author Posted February 26 On 2/25/2026 at 12:35 AM, dav42 said: Log, and video: https://streamable.com/i0wkpf After the scene you can see the PC is no longer lip syncing. This sometimes can linger on in all future dialogue, and also seems to be baked into the save because restarting the game after still exhibits the problem. aaSUPF4SEDebugPrint.txt 6.26 kB · 1 download We have the ApplyMfgSet function, which applies morphs to the face with a loop parameter—repeat every frame. If you run it without the loop, the next frame will revert the face to its normal state. This is clearly not the behavior you want when applying ApplyMfgSet via script, so we lock the face. That's why you see motionless lips during conversations. To remove this lock, you need to call ApplyMfgSet again with an empty string parameter: ApplyMfgSet(akActor, "") when it's no longer needed. Instead, it's called with the NR_Normal parameter. Which is exactly what locks the character's lips in the closed state. My head is empty right now, and I have no ideas on how to resolve this situation at a level below the mod itself. How to understand that the face morph is no longer needed?
Evi1Panda Posted February 26 Author Posted February 26 (edited) 19 hours ago, waiyan said: What value should I change in these xml files? What do you expect from me? Why would I sit and study hundreds of lines of your xml files? No, I won't do that. If you sent a specific case, I could probably look at it, but sending me a bunch of your... text is an option that will never fly. I don’t advise you to sit and look for and change something on your own. Just use packs that are written in such a way that they work out of the box. Edited February 26 by Evi1Panda
waiyan Posted February 26 Posted February 26 3 hours ago, Evi1Panda said: What do you expect from me? Why would I sit and study hundreds of lines of your xml files? No, I won't do that. If you sent a specific case, I could probably look at it, but sending me a bunch of your... text is an option that will never fly. I don’t advise you to sit and look for and change something on your own. Just use packs that are written in such a way that they work out of the box. Packs? Such as?
Andy14 Posted February 26 Posted February 26 2 hours ago, waiyan said: Packs? Such as? You usually don't need to manually edit the XML. In your case, it seems to me that you don't have any compatible meshes installed. If the mesh doesn't have the corresponding skin, it doesn't matter what's in the XML – it won't work.
waiyan Posted February 26 Posted February 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, Andy14 said: You usually don't need to manually edit the XML. In your case, it seems to me that you don't have any compatible meshes installed. If the mesh doesn't have the corresponding skin, it doesn't matter what's in the XML – it won't work. I used AAF and once had that erection problem. But, it was fixed after installing Ultimate AAF Patch. Now, I'm switching to NAF and every sex scene works but without erection for both human and creature. I think the penis meshes are there. How do I make them compatible with NAF? Any suggestions? By switching, I mean I just uninstalled AAF and Ultimate AAF patch and followed NAF installation guide. Are there other AAF mods I need to reinstall after NAF installation for them to recgonize NAF? Edited February 26 by waiyan
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