FALLOUT 4 is getting update on April 25

[deathmorph]

12 hours ago, El_Duderino said:

If you have the ~35 GB disc space available, it might be a good idea to create a full backup of your Fallout 4 folder before letting it update. Then you can always roll back to the older version when ever you want. Or could even use both side by side.

 

Do you mean C:\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 4 and C:\Users\abcd\Documents\My Games\Fallout4? And the depot files and the acf in C:\Steam\steamapps are not required to be backed up?

[deff.]

1 hour ago, AdriantheBelgian said:

If you still managed to not get your game updated : DON'T DO IT !! Even F4SE didn't catch up yet, it broke everything, apparently the update modified a lot of the native code

 

I will not update. I have wonderful modlist and don't want to ruin it

[M.BISON]

I have steam set to - update on launch, and using MO2. Game hasn't updated  

 

I don't think it will  ever update unless I launch it via steam, but would steam ever do a stealth update?

[ebbluminous]

1 hour ago, M.BISON said:

I have steam set to - update on launch, and using MO2. Game hasn't updated  

 

I don't think it will  ever update unless I launch it via steam, but would steam ever do a stealth update?

Stealth updates have happened to me on Skyrim before.

 

To be safe, change the appmanifest for FO4 to be read only. After this, you'll see the update pending in Steam, but with an error.

 

 

[docsteel]

Well, I was one of the few who had no idea this update was coming since I don't really read much gaming news.  This weekend I got the urge to play FO4 (no, I have not seen the series, I don't subscribe to the service) and after installing it (I don't have the hard drive space to keep monster games installed eternally) and beginning the modding process I saw that I had just missed the deadline to block the update.

 

So now I'm stuck with the idea of playing FO4 with no mods and, more importantly, no sexy bodies to ogle while I rampage across the wastelands.

 

Sometimes life is hard.

[Grymli]

On Steam is a manual how to go back to the previous version. I tried it and it works.

[chasm]

I bet if the F4SE team said "no, we're not updating, this update is not worth it", most of the modding community would just accept never updating again. 
How many authors have moved on, so their great mods will never be updated to this?

[chasm]

58 minutes ago, ebbluminous said:

Stealth updates have happened to me on Skyrim before.

Me too, and F4 as well. 
Steam forces updates to the Steam app, and that update changed my update/offline settings and trashed my F4.  Since the last time they did that I have not played a Steam game.  Switched to GoG and Epic.  Neither of them has tried to screw me so far.  Other than the lack of a CK anyway.

[deathmorph]

The biggest bummer about the update is that modders are already pulling out of FO4. Thank you, Bethesda. I will never buy a game from you again.

[ebbluminous]

53 minutes ago, deathmorph said:

The biggest bummer about the update is that modders are already pulling out of FO4. Thank you, Bethesda. I will never buy a game from you again.

Things like this and Starfield = People should not expect ES6 to be anywhere near decent

[erc1971]

I had to get a new computer.  After installing vanilla FO4 I thought about getting back into the world after a couple years away...then I saw the update coming.  So I waited, never having installed a single FO4 mod on this new computer...game is 100% vanilla.  Once the update came, I decided to play through the intro so I could have a save game ready to mod for when the mods were updated.  CTD every 30-60 seconds, completely unplayable.  Supposedly many people are having many issues with this patch, so time to wait for the patch to patch the patch. 

[Captain Cobra]

Don't forget to grab a copy of the old Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch (2.1.5, in the old files section, the one that says its for the GOG version) before it gets yeeted out of existence, you'll never know if you'll need it...

[ebbluminous]

1 hour ago, Captain Cobra said:

Don't forget to grab a copy of the old Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch (2.1.5, in the old files section, the one that says its for the GOG version) before it gets yeeted out of existence, you'll never know if you'll need it...

2.1.5 was removed at first when it was updated to 2.1.6. Surprised they have put it back up. It's usually update the game to the latest version and fuck you if you don't/can't

[0tt3r82]

I use Vortex to launch FO4 and handle my mods. I don't think that I have played in like a week. To my surprise I was met with the message box saying that the game has updated and F4SE doesn't support it.

 

I skimmed the comments in this thread and it appears that F4SE won't even bother to update? 

 

Is it possible to revert back to the older version? If so, how? 

 

Damnit, this sucks. I was still in the first act with my PC. Went through "Commonwealth Slavers," "Milking Human Kindness," and "Nuka Ride." Had been just drifting through the rest of the game with Sexual Harassment and wanted to get back into some RSE mods and "Problems of a Survivor." 

[0tt3r82]

4 minutes ago, 0tt3r82 said:

I use Vortex to launch FO4 and handle my mods. I don't think that I have played in like a week. To my surprise I was met with the message box saying that the game has updated and F4SE doesn't support it.

 

I skimmed the comments in this thread and it appears that F4SE won't even bother to update? 

 

Is it possible to revert back to the older version? If so, how? 

 

Damnit, this sucks. I was still in the first act with my PC. Went through "Commonwealth Slavers," "Milking Human Kindness," and "Nuka Ride." Had been just drifting through the rest of the game with Sexual Harassment and wanted to get back into some RSE mods and "Problems of a Survivor." 

Here's an option for going back to the previous version on Steam. 

 

 

Will that work with my game being managed by Vortex? I think all the files still go to a Steam directory...

[izzyknows]

1 hour ago, 0tt3r82 said:

Will that work with my game being managed by Vortex? I think all the files still go to a Steam directory...

You're rolling back the vanilla files, vortex or any mod manager has nothing to do with that.

Edited April 29, 2024 by izzyknows

[docsteel]

3 hours ago, 0tt3r82 said:

I skimmed the comments in this thread and it appears that F4SE won't even bother to update?

 

 

Don't know where you read that, but that's wrong.  F4SE is being worked on.  The trick will be which mods will still need to be updated after that.  For many it won't be a problem--they just rely on F4SE.  But for others it's going to take an update from the authors of those mods to get them working again.

Edited April 29, 2024 by docsteel

[docsteel]

Just found this mod on Nexus that's apparently a real life-saver:

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/81630?tab=description

 

Basically a simple program to revert the files.  You have to enter your Steam info which the author says they understand is a big ask for folks but there is an alternative QR code option if you're too uneasy.

 

There is also this one which tricks Steam into thinking you've updated so you shouldn't have to worry about Steam trying to update your files again once you revert:

 

STEAM - Skip Next-Gen update at Fallout 4 Nexus - Mods and community (nexusmods.com)

 

 

[donttouchmethere]

On 4/25/2024 at 8:05 PM, worik said:

Updating right now … 14GB takes some time on my old and rusty uplink

Let’s see how fast my mods get updated … no hurry since I can occupy myself with Skyrim as well for next months

You make it sound good and bad at the same time 😶

[worik]

17 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

You make it sound good and bad at the same time 😶

Skyrim is always  on the good side of life ☝️

[0tt3r82]

On 4/30/2024 at 9:00 AM, docsteel said:

Just found this mod on Nexus that's apparently a real life-saver:

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/81630?tab=description

 

Basically a simple program to revert the files.  You have to enter your Steam info which the author says they understand is a big ask for folks but there is an alternative QR code option if you're too uneasy.

 

There is also this one which tricks Steam into thinking you've updated so you shouldn't have to worry about Steam trying to update your files again once you revert:

 

STEAM - Skip Next-Gen update at Fallout 4 Nexus - Mods and community (nexusmods.com)

 

 

Yo, I'm going to try these mods! Thanks for finding and posting! 

[Dodzh]

F4SE, just released yesterday a "Mod Developer Test" it should be used only by mod developers to test mods 

[0tt3r82]

On 4/30/2024 at 9:00 AM, docsteel said:

Just found this mod on Nexus that's apparently a real life-saver:

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/81630?tab=description

 

Basically a simple program to revert the files.  You have to enter your Steam info which the author says they understand is a big ask for folks but there is an alternative QR code option if you're too uneasy.

 

There is also this one which tricks Steam into thinking you've updated so you shouldn't have to worry about Steam trying to update your files again once you revert:

 

STEAM - Skip Next-Gen update at Fallout 4 Nexus - Mods and community (nexusmods.com)

 

 

 

Running that mod worked! Even though it gave me an error message at the end of running the .exe program. Been playing for about an hour now and haven't run into any errors. 

 

Thanks again!

[M.BISON]

On 4/27/2024 at 5:36 PM, ebbluminous said:

Stealth updates have happened to me on Skyrim before.

 

To be safe, change the appmanifest for FO4 to be read only. After this, you'll see the update pending in Steam, but with an error.

 

 

 

Good to know.

 

BTW I have a few appmanifest files, but after some googling, found out it should be appmanifest_377160 (is that right?), changed it to read only but my I don't have the error like you said!? I think it should be okay?

[ebbluminous]

28 minutes ago, M.BISON said:

 

Good to know.

 

BTW I have a few appmanifest files, but after some googling, found out it should be appmanifest_377160 (is that right?), changed it to read only but my I don't have the error like you said!? I think it should be okay?

That's the one.

Did you update and roll back? If so, you will not get the error until there is another update.

 

Edit: Just checked and it doesn't display an error anymore, just a pending update. Check your update settings in Steam again - Steam has reset mine from 'Only update this game when I luanch it' back to 'Always keep this game updated'. It likes to do that periodically.

 

Edited May 3, 2024 by ebbluminous