PAF Fixes and Addons

[Dg75]

1 hour ago, KnightxPawn said:

I just picked up the AIO, and the reqs I didn't have already.  I'm thinking of adding it to a list that I've been slowing adding survival type mods to.  In reading through several pages of the posts here I didn't see if, when adding this to an existing list, you need to rebuild the animations.  The list I'm running uses Pandora, which I've never used.  If so, I'll do some reading on it and see if I can add it without screwing up the existing animations.  Thanks!

Yes after first time installing, you will need to generate behavior files - fnis, nemy panora . doesn't matter which. 

[Dg75]

7 hours ago, alphafr said:

I have no magic effect and the keybind for status check doesn't work, all MCM menu show up properly though

Nope ! current issue was just receiving needed cell dethatch events to get some of extra features working. Has nada to do with menus or keybinds.

 

What do you mean you have no magic effect ? what magic effect ?  Key binds depend on skse !

Edited May 18, 2025 by Dg75

[alphafr]

1 hour ago, Dg75 said:

Nope ! current issue was just receiving needed cell dethatch events to get some of extra features working. Has nada to do with menus or keybinds.

 

What do you mean you have no magic effect ? what magic effect ?  Key binds depend on skse !

Thought you can also track bladder status through the magic menu via debuff

 

Unable to use the check status key as keybind does nothing even after remaping

[Dg75]

16 minutes ago, alphafr said:

Unable to use the check status key as keybind does nothing even after remaping

do the other keybinds work ? Just the status ? 

 

Edited May 18, 2025 by Dg75

[peefetishist]

13 hours ago, Dg75 said:

Try this if you want. Use mod manager to install, only leave it in to test - if it success - then make a hard save - exit game and uninstall it. - If need be 

reinstall PFA 4.1 + then load game and test it again. 

This only looks at Comment manager version on load game - and if PFA dont have a handle on cm it trys to regain handle.  Prints to screen Messages

This will debug add actor - as print to screen extra messages

 

Requires PFA 4.1.3 - newest edition - Note be watching for update - as I found another PFA bug - and will be updating again soon.PFAtest1.7z

 

I installed this, didn't show any messages when attempting to add actor, also still had comment manager warning. 

 

Additionally, I tried with the new version you've uploaded, with the test file and without, game freezes when attempting to use any of the pee/fart options, it undresses and then freezes immediately. 

 

I'm going to try disabling all of the other mods I have and see if this is an issue with some kind of conflict somewhere or if its actually PFA's fault. 

edit: ok I've managed to get PAF and PFA working for the most part, the add actors still doesn't work using the newest version of PFA, I missed the part in your response about turning on debugging for PFA, which I wasn't able to do, the box shows up in the MCM but doesn't allow me to tick it. The PFA test file you gave me also seems to have broken the menu options for me which meant I wasn't able to test it either way. 

 

For now my game allows me to use the menu and do most of the things I want it to do for myself, I do hope the add actors option can work in future, but apart from that I have no idea why its not letting me do it. 

Edited May 18, 2025 by peefetishist
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[Dg75]

1 hour ago, peefetishist said:

I installed this, didn't show any messages when attempting to add actor, also still had comment manager warning. 

 

Additionally, I tried with the new version you've uploaded, with the test file and without, game freezes when attempting to use any of the pee/fart options, it undresses and then freezes immediately. 

 

I'm going to try disabling all of the other mods I have and see if this is an issue with some kind of conflict somewhere or if its actually PFA's fault. 

Did you get any messages on load ? 

If you didnt get anything that quest PafAlias on PAF_MainQuest is dead. You got serious issues somewhere. Nothing besides pfa or paf related mods would conflict 

or overwright it. If you havent verify the integrity of your skyrim install. The quest in question is start game enabled - if it cant run or didnt start  . . Vanilla game 

[peefetishist]

41 minutes ago, Dg75 said:

Did you get any messages on load ? 

If you didnt get anything that quest PafAlias on PAF_MainQuest is dead. You got serious issues somewhere. Nothing besides pfa or paf related mods would conflict 

or overwright it. If you havent verify the integrity of your skyrim install. The quest in question is start game enabled - if it cant run or didnt start  . . Vanilla game 

Hey sorry didn't see this, I added additional info to my previous message but I'll answer these ones too.

 

I have verified integrity of my game files, no issues there. The mod does work for the time being, I cleared things out and did a fresh install of the mod + requirements and its playable, I get the usual PAF starting, PAF ready, etc. messages when starting a new save. 

Apart from the debugging option not working and the adding actors not working, everything else appears to work with minimal issues. I've just noticed that adding toilets doesn't seem to work with the newest version either. 

Edited May 18, 2025 by peefetishist

[alphafr]

9 hours ago, Dg75 said:

do the other keybinds work ? Just the status ? 

 

None work if sitting on a toilet auto trigger the sound effect

 

I do have PFA initialised message on save load

 

Also feels like PC ain't tracked by the mod after setting time scale for bladder to 1 and waiting a full day still see "no pressure" in MCM

 

Edit: had to disable the mod save and re enable it for keybind to work, no clue why I had to do that on a clean save

Edited May 18, 2025 by alphafr

[RecycleBin]

@Dg75 Im back... Ive tried everything. I cant get anything to work. The old PAF mod works fine so I think I just have to go back. I have reinstalled everything. Tested with just required mods. Tried Falrim tools (Hardly any scrips were running). Whenever I start a new game its a crap shoot what Ill see. Sometimes I get both the PAF and PFA MCMs, sometimes I get neither, sometimes one or the other appears. Sometimes comment manager says its fine. sometimes it says warning. Either way cant PAF no matter what. When I remove PFA everything works again. Im just not sure what to try next. Ive done every step we went over but its just not working with my system

Edited May 18, 2025 by RecycleBin

[alphafr]

Well I now have another issue : PFA crashes my game after I restart it on all save following its installation, corrupting all save if I remove it when it was active

 

Any idea what conflict PFA has with Skyclimb? Remember I have it installed, if its minor hindrance or hard crash

 

crash-2025-05-18-18-23-09.log

Edited May 18, 2025 by alphafr

[Dg75]

On 5/18/2025 at 1:26 PM, alphafr said:

Well I now have another issue : PFA crashes my game after I restart it on all save following its installation, corrupting all save if I remove it when it was active

 

Any idea what conflict PFA has with Skyclimb? Remember I have it installed, if its minor hindrance or hard crash

 

 

Man you have a lot of .dll's in.  these skes plugins are fun, and by no means am I saying they are bad, but they can do things to the vanilla behavior

that may bring unexpected results when combined with alot+ other mods,  , just saying - mods like SKyCLimb alters vanilla engine so it can do what it does. Fine!

Other users of it have reported issues with SkyClimb used along with Pee and fart - go to the pee and fart page and read. Its something to do with poop enabled ?

 

So how in the heck or might say what in the heck does SkyCLimb have to do with a mod that spawns a poop mesh at an actors tail bone node ? 

Theirs no telling unless you know how to open a .dll and look. Ask on that mod page. 

I noticed you have a BacksupportedESL .dll  - is that Bees mod ? are you on older than current skyrim ? 

 

Edited May 20, 2025 by Dg75

[alphafr]

1 hour ago, Dg75 said:

Man you have a lot of .dll's in.  these skes plugins are fun, and by no means am I saying they are bad, but they can do things to the vanilla behavior

that may bring unexpected results when combined with alot+ other mods,  , just saying - mods like SKyCLimb alters vanilla engine so it can do what it does. Fine!

Other users of it have reported issues with SkyClimb used along with Pee and fart - go to the pee and fart page and read. Its something to do with poop enabled ?

 

So how in the heck or might say what in the heck does SkyCLimb have to do with a mod that spawns a poop mesh at an actors tail bone node ? 

Theirs no telling unless you know how to open a .dll and look. Ask on that mod page. 

I noticed you have a BacksupportedESL .dll  - is that Bees mod ? are you on older than current skyrim ? 

 

Using latest skyrim version, some mod just require BacksupportedESL .dll it nonetheless even when its only for v1170 for some reason

 

Skyclimb issue seems related to one of its occasional issue where animation fail and you're stuck with temporarily disabled controls somehow transferring to this mod

 

Now I have no crashes and it works while changing nothing

 

Guess It just works™

[LDUSE]

If I'm using PFA AIO already is it safe to update mid-game? Kinda confused by the wording on the main page.

[Dg75]

12 hours ago, LDUSE said:

If I'm using PFA AIO already is it safe to update mid-game? Kinda confused by the wording on the main page.

yes. you only need a clean save if updating from 4.0 or under.

 

[Ysfggboi]

I'm sorry but, how the FUCK, do we use the mod? I haven't seen anything mentioning how to do anything, not even in the original paf mod.. I have both paf and pfa in my MCM... I tried a lot of things, and the menu of Paf seems to not open for some reason, n works normally but B: action and K: menu, they don't do anything and I don't know what to do with them... (edit: turns out the N that was working was from Sexlabs Arousal) My PAF/PFA keys are not doing anything for some reason, could it be the mod isn't even running for me? I see both in MCM tho. 

 

Edited May 22, 2025 by Ysfggboi

[Dg75]

10 hours ago, Ysfggboi said:

I'm sorry but, how the FUCK, do we use the mod? I haven't seen anything mentioning how to do anything, not even in the original paf mod.. I have both paf and pfa in my MCM... I tried a lot of things, and the menu of Paf seems to not open for some reason, n works normally but B: action and K: menu, they don't do anything and I don't know what to do with them... (edit: turns out the N that was working was from Sexlabs Arousal) My PAF/PFA keys are not doing anything for some reason, could it be the mod isn't even running for me? I see both in MCM tho. 

 

They work! I assure you. Maybe you have conflicts or incorrect files ?

First you must check that you have all the correct files that are required. I am assuming you read the main page.

list here the files you have so we can take a look. - just the files associated with paf beginning with game version, skse version, sexlab  . . .

 

[Ysfggboi]

These were my installation, I had SKSE and SKYUI and RaceMenu already(made sure they're up to date) since I use many other mods that require them, and they work. SlaveTats was visible in the MCM so I assumed it's also working, I haven't searched for the outdoor toilets(if they exist, idk if we spawn them or what) but their esp was loaded. I installed sexlab and launched, then installed it from the MCM like they said, closed the game and installed the rest of the stuff. Finally, the Paf AIO since I had a clean save and never downloaded older versions. I mainly wanted Paf to be able to install your other mod, Domination AIO, but I wanted to test that Paf was working for my game first before taking that step. Honestly I thought I just didn't know how to use it(I probably still don't since idk how to even track an npc) but I assumed it was through the menu which I can't open lol. It's really weird that PAF and PFA are visible in the MCM yet I can't see any sign of them working in the game. idk what to do v_v ..

 

SKSE build 2.2.6 (game version 1.6.1170)

SkyUI_5_2_SE

SexLab SE - Sex Animation Framework v1.66b

SlaveTats 1.3.9 SE

Stroti's Outdoor Toilet Resource for Skyrim SE

RaceMenu Anniversary Edition v0-4-19-16

 

OH! and it turns out the N button that was working was the Sexlab button that selects actors or something like that. the N B K buttons for PAF sadly don't do anything :c

 

 

Edited May 23, 2025 by Ysfggboi

[alphafr]

Worked for a day but now its stuck booting up, resetting in MCM or new game didn't help, get stuck on PAF : starting... message and doesn't progress further

 

Noticed I have PAF but not PFA in MCM using the latest AIO (4.1.5) even after force updating MCM via maid menu

 

And it randomly decide to work after restarting the game

Edited May 23, 2025 by alphafr

[Dg75]

7 hours ago, Ysfggboi said:

the menu which I can't open lol. It's really weird that PAF and PFA are visible in the MCM yet I can't see any sign of them working in the game. idk what to do v_v ..

Okay. So the mcm's are loading for both paf and pfa, but the default hot keys are not working ? K in  particular I think is the menu. 

To track npc's you have to either open paf menu and select Add Actor while that npc is in crosshairs. Or I believe Paf has a spell alt method as well - mainly 

for users on VR that cannot get cross hair refs. 

 

If the hot keys aren't working is generally a sign Paf's mcm init process borked as it would need to register the keys on load. 

Try changing the key to something else, and maybe change back or leave it different - whatever, this should make Paf mcm re-register the key.

Make sure they are not conflicting with other mods. I think Sexlab, Zaz, and maybe Defeat have defualt keys set to N. 

 

Past this if the mcm's are loading, Look into PFA's Debug page and see if everything is okay. It should detect mods you have on right pane, 

and will give any warnings of failures. Paffing in game  - you will need to wait at least a few hours, try eating food and drinking liquid after you waited. 

see If you PC pressure states increase.

 

Paf nor PFA use PapyrusUtilty functions to store and retrieve data from json files, but none the less SexLab does- and packs its own version of it

Many other mods like campfire, simplyknock  .  .name but a few overwright the same scripts - Utility script. IDK why!!

But I personally Install PapyrusUtility from nexus and have it - the most updated version overwright all.. This Papyrus utility or a 

conflict of it may influence your skse co save file - which stores hotkey data. I dont see this being your problem, but nor do I know 

why your Hotkeys are not working. I am assuming they work for all other mods ?

 

Edited May 23, 2025 by Dg75

[Dg75]

1 hour ago, alphafr said:

stuck booting up

Whats stuck on booting up ?

If its been working for a day and a half Skyui already has the mcm's

[Ysfggboi]

48 minutes ago, Dg75 said:

Okay. So the mcm's are loading for both paf and pfa, but the default hot keys are not working ? K in  particular I think is the menu. 

To track npc's you have to either open paf menu and select Add Actor while that npc is in crosshairs. Or I believe Paf has a spell alt method as well - mainly 

for users on VR that cannot get cross hair refs. 

 

If the hot keys aren't working is generally a sign Paf's mcm init process borked as it would need to register the keys on load. 

Try changing the key to something else, and maybe change back or leave it different - whatever, this should make Paf mcm re-register the key.

Make sure they are not conflicting with other mods. I think Sexlab, Zaz, and maybe Defeat have defualt keys set to N. 

 

Past this if the mcm's are loading, Look into PFA's Debug page and see if everything is okay. It should detect mods you have on right pane, 

and will give any warnings of failures. Paffing in game  - you will need to wait at least a few hours, try eating food and drinking liquid after you waited. 

see If you PC pressure states increase.

 

Paf nor PFA use PapyrusUtilty functions to store and retrieve data from json files, but none the less SexLab does- and packs its own version of it

Many other mods like campfire, simplyknock  .  .name but a few overwright the same scripts - Utility script. IDK why!!

But I personally Install PapyrusUtility from nexus and have it - the most updated version overwright all.. This Papyrus utility or a 

conflict of it may influence your skse co save file - which stores hotkey data. I dont see this being your problem, but nor do I know 

why your Hotkeys are not working. I am assuming they work for all other mods ?

 

Yes, my hotkeys work for other mods. I tried waiting for paffing but I didn't get any notifications, do I need to have survival mode on in skyrim settings? Sexlab arousal uses N key for some stuff, but it doesn't make sense that K and B still don't work. I don't have Zaz installed since you mentioned that we don't need it or that it's already installed or something. I guess I'll try to open the game, change the hotkey, restart...? I'll also check the debug page.

[Ysfggboi]

56 minutes ago, Dg75 said:

Okay. So the mcm's are loading for both paf and pfa, but the default hot keys are not working ? K in  particular I think is the menu. 

To track npc's you have to either open paf menu and select Add Actor while that npc is in crosshairs. Or I believe Paf has a spell alt method as well - mainly 

for users on VR that cannot get cross hair refs. 

 

If the hot keys aren't working is generally a sign Paf's mcm init process borked as it would need to register the keys on load. 

Try changing the key to something else, and maybe change back or leave it different - whatever, this should make Paf mcm re-register the key.

Make sure they are not conflicting with other mods. I think Sexlab, Zaz, and maybe Defeat have defualt keys set to N. 

 

Past this if the mcm's are loading, Look into PFA's Debug page and see if everything is okay. It should detect mods you have on right pane, 

and will give any warnings of failures. Paffing in game  - you will need to wait at least a few hours, try eating food and drinking liquid after you waited. 

see If you PC pressure states increase.

 

Paf nor PFA use PapyrusUtilty functions to store and retrieve data from json files, but none the less SexLab does- and packs its own version of it

Many other mods like campfire, simplyknock  .  .name but a few overwright the same scripts - Utility script. IDK why!!

But I personally Install PapyrusUtility from nexus and have it - the most updated version overwright all.. This Papyrus utility or a 

conflict of it may influence your skse co save file - which stores hotkey data. I dont see this being your problem, but nor do I know 

why your Hotkeys are not working. I am assuming they work for all other mods ?

 

Do you have a discord server we can communicate on?

[Dg75]

13 minutes ago, Ysfggboi said:

Yes, my hotkeys work for other mods. I tried waiting for paffing but I didn't get any notifications, do I need to have survival mode on in skyrim settings? Sexlab arousal uses N key for some stuff, but it doesn't make sense that K and B still don't work. I don't have Zaz installed since you mentioned that we don't need it or that it's already installed or something. I guess I'll try to open the game, change the hotkey, restart...? I'll also check the debug page.

you'll need zaz for domination. PFA and paf don't need it. Survival isn't needed. I personally use campfire and frostfall and realneeds

 

Idk. strange. 

resetting the hotkeys didnt work ?

 

Its something with pafs mcm. I didnt write in it, just copied it over. It all works for me. - guessing you got some conflict messing with skyui or paf mcm

or maybe the way I packed it in. Comment Manager.esp is packed with Paf and Addons, but Cm loads its own mcm - does it load ?

Paf Fixes and Addons AIO . esp  - loads both paf mcm and pfa mcm on different quests.  It works for me, I dont know why it cause issue with

anyone else.

Edited May 23, 2025 by Dg75

[Dg75]

1 minute ago, Ysfggboi said:

Do you have a discord server we can communicate on?

no. never set one up.

[Ysfggboi]

11 minutes ago, Dg75 said:

you'll need zaz for domination. PFA and paf don't need it. Survival isn't needed. I personally use campfire and frostfall and realneeds

 

Idk. strange. 

resetting the hotkeys didnt work ?

 

Its something with pafs mcm. I didnt write in it, just copied it over. It all works for me. - guessing you got some conflict messing with skyui or paf mcm

HEY! PAF is working!(it now tells me stuff like i don't need to pee and it opens the menu and stuff) but PFA is now not visible in MCM... lmao. I think it's the order of how I installed things? I really don't know.... this is very confusing...

Edited May 23, 2025 by Ysfggboi