[WIP] Skykids - Child races & other technical goodies - No more armor patcher! New CotS R2 Race!(6/22/15)

[Erundil]

I have a problem with SkyProc Patcher.

 

To put it simple - it's old, it's weird, it's not working.

I'll just skip the fact that it really wants me to use BOSS, which is long dead and no longer supported.

I tend to just ignore the Patcher asking for BOSS, I tell it I'm not gonna use BOSS and order it to proceed.

But today it started spitting exceptions. About missing masters. Namely Unofficial Patches.

Example - Seems like UDGP in my load order requires USKP which is missing.

I checked. It's not. It's the Patcher spitting nonsense.

So - any chance of new and improved patcher that doesn't ask us to use the necro-BOSS and doesn't spit nonsense about my load order?

 

My load order, just for the record, although I already know it's correct:

 

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

ApachiiHair.esm

ApachiiHairFemales.esm

RaceCompatibility.esm

Skykids.esm

ApachiiHairMales.esm

Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm

SexLab.esm

SexLabAroused.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp

Cutting Room Floor.esp

Active Plugins Display.esp

CombatDramaOverhaul.esp

Footprints.esp

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

Better Werewolf 4.5.esp

SK Vanilla Child Replacer DB.esp

Civil War Overhaul.esp

ClamsDropPearls.esp

Brawl Bugs CE.esp

RaceMenu.esp

Cowardly Essential Horses - Frost (Before Quest).esp

Disease Descriptions - Dawnguard.esp

Cowardly Essential Horses - Shadowmere.esp

Khajiit Merchants Buy Stolen Items.esp

Cowardly Essential Horses.esp

Schlongs of Skyrim.esp

Better Skill and Quest Books Names.esp

Disease Descriptions - Dragonborn.esp

Maybe Hearts and Flesh.esp

FISS.esp

AMatterOfTime.esp

Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp

RaceMenuOverlays.esp

SOS Underwear for Both Genders by Erundil.esp

DS_HorseMeter.esp

Faster Vanilla Horses.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp

SexLabMatchMaker.esp

SOS - Leito Addon.esp

Heights Corrected by Erundil.esp

New Body for Aela by Erundil.esp

Helmless Warrior Reworked.esp

Mighty Beasts - Vampire Lord.esp

Mighty Beasts - Werewolf.esp

Nice Face by Erundil.esp

No Guard Helmets.esp

Disease Descriptions.esp

Point The Way.esp

RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp

Proper Aiming.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

Atlas Legendary OCS.esp

Blessings - Altar Descriptions.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

SK Vanilla Child Replacer.esp

SK Vanilla Child Replacer HF.esp

SkyUI.esp

SOS Female Schlongifier (No Schlong Addon by Erundil).esp

SpinningArrows - Dawnguard.esp

SpinningArrows.esp

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

Gildergreen Regrown.esp

Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge.esp

When Vampires Attack.esp

Open Cities Skyrim.esp

Open Cities Skyrim - Hearthfire Patch.esp

 

 

[en_hawk]

I have a problem with SkyProc Patcher.

 

To put it simple - it's old, it's weird, it's not working.

I'll just skip the fact that it really wants me to use BOSS, which is long dead and no longer supported.

I tend to just ignore the Patcher asking for BOSS, I tell it I'm not gonna use BOSS and order it to proceed.

But today it started spitting exceptions. About missing masters. Namely Unofficial Patches.

Example - Seems like UDGP in my load order requires USKP which is missing.

I checked. It's not. It's the Patcher spitting nonsense.

So - any chance of new and improved patcher that doesn't ask us to use the necro-BOSS and doesn't spit nonsense about my load order?

 

My load order, just for the record, although I already know it's correct:

 

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

ApachiiHair.esm

ApachiiHairFemales.esm

RaceCompatibility.esm

Skykids.esm

ApachiiHairMales.esm

Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm

SexLab.esm

SexLabAroused.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp

Cutting Room Floor.esp

Active Plugins Display.esp

CombatDramaOverhaul.esp

Footprints.esp

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

Better Werewolf 4.5.esp

SK Vanilla Child Replacer DB.esp

Civil War Overhaul.esp

ClamsDropPearls.esp

Brawl Bugs CE.esp

RaceMenu.esp

Cowardly Essential Horses - Frost (Before Quest).esp

Disease Descriptions - Dawnguard.esp

Cowardly Essential Horses - Shadowmere.esp

Khajiit Merchants Buy Stolen Items.esp

Cowardly Essential Horses.esp

Schlongs of Skyrim.esp

Better Skill and Quest Books Names.esp

Disease Descriptions - Dragonborn.esp

Maybe Hearts and Flesh.esp

FISS.esp

AMatterOfTime.esp

Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp

RaceMenuOverlays.esp

SOS Underwear for Both Genders by Erundil.esp

DS_HorseMeter.esp

Faster Vanilla Horses.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp

SexLabMatchMaker.esp

SOS - Leito Addon.esp

Heights Corrected by Erundil.esp

New Body for Aela by Erundil.esp

Helmless Warrior Reworked.esp

Mighty Beasts - Vampire Lord.esp

Mighty Beasts - Werewolf.esp

Nice Face by Erundil.esp

No Guard Helmets.esp

Disease Descriptions.esp

Point The Way.esp

RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp

Proper Aiming.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

Atlas Legendary OCS.esp

Blessings - Altar Descriptions.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

SK Vanilla Child Replacer.esp

SK Vanilla Child Replacer HF.esp

SkyUI.esp

SOS Female Schlongifier (No Schlong Addon by Erundil).esp

SpinningArrows - Dawnguard.esp

SpinningArrows.esp

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

Gildergreen Regrown.esp

Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge.esp

When Vampires Attack.esp

Open Cities Skyrim.esp

Open Cities Skyrim - Hearthfire Patch.esp

 

 

Update to the newest version of SK, it no longer uses skyproc. Pay more attention to the thread title and OP regarding updates in the future.

[Erundil]

I'm very sorry. I have your mod tracked, I have no idea how I could have missed that. Will try new version asap.

Edit:
Ah, now I get it. Your mod page doesn't get updated at all. Only this topic does.
I'm not gonna track the entire topic and get false-positives about updates each time someone asks a stupid question (just like I did, 1 post before).

As a side note it's not just my selfish thinking. There is an official announcement from Ashal, where he's asking ppl to start using the download system.
See here: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/19602-important-changes-to-downloads/

 

Oh, while I'm at it, let me report that file Data\Meshes\Skykids-ArmorSwap\SK-Girl\Clothes\Prisoner\1stpersonprisonerclothes_f_0.nif seems to have a hole in it. _1 is fine, just _0 has the hole. See attached screenie.

[ZarthonTheVanquished]

I'm very sorry. I have your mod tracked, I have no idea how I could have missed that. Will try new version asap.

 

Edit:

Ah, now I get it. Your mod page doesn't get updated at all. Only this topic does.

I'm not gonna track the entire topic and get false-positives about updates each time someone asks a stupid question (just like I did, 1 post before).

 

As a side note it's not just my selfish thinking. There is an official announcement from Ashal, where he's asking ppl to start using the download system.

See here: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/19602-important-changes-to-downloads/

 

Oh, while I'm at it, let me report that file Data\Meshes\Skykids-ArmorSwap\SK-Girl\Clothes\Prisoner\1stpersonprisonerclothes_f_0.nif seems to have a hole in it. _1 is fine, just _0 has the hole. See attached screenie.

Bez tytułu.png

 

I'm not sure what you mean - SkyKids doesn't use a LL downloads section page anymore - downloads are via external hosts (LL limits your downloads rather annoyingly, so it's better that way anyways).

 

Also, you can't see that far up your arm while in first person, and if you use a first person camera mod it won't use that mesh anyways, so the hole is actually quite irrelevant to be honest.

[en_hawk]

I'm very sorry. I have your mod tracked, I have no idea how I could have missed that. Will try new version asap.

 

Edit:

Ah, now I get it. Your mod page doesn't get updated at all. Only this topic does.

I'm not gonna track the entire topic and get false-positives about updates each time someone asks a stupid question (just like I did, 1 post before).

 

As a side note it's not just my selfish thinking. There is an official announcement from Ashal, where he's asking ppl to start using the download system.

See here: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/19602-important-changes-to-downloads/

 

Oh, while I'm at it, let me report that file Data\Meshes\Skykids-ArmorSwap\SK-Girl\Clothes\Prisoner\1stpersonprisonerclothes_f_0.nif seems to have a hole in it. _1 is fine, just _0 has the hole. See attached screenie.

Bez tytułu.png

Thanks for the report on the broken mesh, its now on my todo list, I'll have to take a look and see about fixing it.

 

In regards to the 'false positives' for updates, the thread title only ever gets updated when there is a mod update(and I even bother to put the date of the update in there as well). I refuse to use LL's trash-tier file manager, as after over a year of dealing with it I am simply fed up with how broken it is, as well as the file size restrictions which we now exceed(the off site 'mirror' feature is half-assed as well, and confusing to use for the end user). I'm not going back, end of discussion. Monitor the thread title for updates.

 

If getting people to use his crappy file manager system is such a big deal to Ashal, maybe he should fix the bloody thing so it works properly first, before insisting people use it...

[Erundil]

Thanks for the report on the broken mesh, its now on my todo list, I'll have to take a look and see about fixing it.

 

In regards to the 'false positives' for updates, the thread title only ever gets updated when there is a mod update(and I even bother to put the date of the update in there as well). I refuse to use LL's trash-tier file manager, as after over a year of dealing with it I am simply fed up with how broken it is, as well as the file size restrictions which we now exceed(the off site 'mirror' feature is half-assed as well, and confusing to use for the end user). I'm not going back, end of discussion. Monitor the thread title for updates.

 

If getting people to use his crappy file manager system is such a big deal to Ashal, maybe he should fix the bloody thing so it works properly first, before insisting people use it...

Well, exceeding the allowed filesize is convincing enough for me. Too bad download system isn't better then.

[BansheePanda]

TES5Edit is telling me:

 

[00:03] _skchildAlt-ChildWoodElfVampire [RACE:0B0261DF]

[00:03]     RACE \ VTCK - Voices \ Voice #0 (Male) -> Found a NULL reference, expected: VTYP

[00:03]     RACE \ VTCK - Voices \ Voice #1 (Female) -> Found a NULL reference, expected: VTYP

 

only for all the children. Is it alright to leave this as is, or is it something I need to patch/fix?

[en_hawk]

TES5Edit is telling me:

 

[00:03] _skchildAlt-ChildWoodElfVampire [RACE:0B0261DF]

[00:03]     RACE \ VTCK - Voices \ Voice #0 (Male) -> Found a NULL reference, expected: VTYP

[00:03]     RACE \ VTCK - Voices \ Voice #1 (Female) -> Found a NULL reference, expected: VTYP

 

only for all the children. Is it alright to leave this as is, or is it something I need to patch/fix?

Go ahead and ignore any errors coming from the races starting with the underscore, they are used exclusively to configure the armor swapper, and not actually employed by the player or any NPCs.

[BansheePanda]

 

TES5Edit is telling me:

 

[00:03] _skchildAlt-ChildWoodElfVampire [RACE:0B0261DF]

[00:03]     RACE \ VTCK - Voices \ Voice #0 (Male) -> Found a NULL reference, expected: VTYP

[00:03]     RACE \ VTCK - Voices \ Voice #1 (Female) -> Found a NULL reference, expected: VTYP

 

only for all the children. Is it alright to leave this as is, or is it something I need to patch/fix?

Go ahead and ignore any errors coming from the races starting with the underscore, they are used exclusively to configure the armor swapper, and not actually employed by the player or any NPCs.

 

 

Thanks, en_hawk, for the quick reply. Good to know I'm not borking my game. >.<

[magicman]

Where's the file for that hot pink bikini because I'm going to try to replace it and pray it does not horribly mess up everything.

[asd000]

Hey, this is kind of a shot in the dark, but I figured I'd ask since I'm fairly new to any real complicated modding (I did make a mod once, in which I nerfed the fuck out of the disarm shout because I was sick of hunting for my followers' weapons after every single draugr fight, but that's about it).

 

I'd like to do something like an NPC replacer, but I'm not real sure where to begin. I asked SpyderArachnid because they made the first Skykids replacer mod, but it's been so long since that mod came out that I was directed here (to en_hawk and Johann specifically). Is there any good information you guys could direct me to as a starting point for this, perhaps? I've been able to find guides on creating things like new standalone NPCs, but I'm not sure how much those apply to replacing NPCs' appearances - especially NPCs who've been heavily modified already by stuff like Skykids. The biggest things I'm having trouble with revolve around how to create or use specific faces (the few times I've experimented with that, I always ended up with unedited all-sliders-at-0 adult heads and other weird effects), or possibly edit skeletons to change proportions slightly (I assume that there's no way to save stuff like RaceMenu sliders on NPCs in a mod, so the skeleton itself would have to be changed somehow?).

 

I've got some expierience with several different 3d applications (Blender, Hexagon, etc) but so far the byzantine content creation process of Skyrim is stopping me from getting to the point where any of that is even useful. If you guys could help me figure out where to begin I'd greatly appreciate it, and if you can't.. well, I'll thank you anyway for creating and continuing to support this mod and the eradication of potoato heads in Skyrim.

[johnny2by4]

anyone know how this mod interacts with the being female mod?  specifically would the children born through that mod be skykids children?  i'm guessing not, so has anyone seen a patch?

[kainobean]

i cant seem to get the new version armors to work and there is no info on how to get it to work... im so confused.... the old java one worked perfectly everytime and was easy to use this one just makes all my children nude all the time even followers that i put basic armors on dont have it show up... i saw others mentioning somehting about this but no one seemed to address it.... im using mod orginizer and finaly got everything wokring but this mod with it... any help would but nice...

 

i cant go back to old version wiht working swapper cuase well it dont work anymore keeps giving null pointer errors in java... so now i have broken kids on a fresh install.

 

please dont be mad at me for asking this i read everything and cant seem to figure out how to fix it.....

[LordNecris]

i cant seem to get the new version armors to work and there is no info on how to get it to work... im so confused.... the old java one worked perfectly everytime and was easy to use this one just makes all my children nude all the time even followers that i put basic armors on dont have it show up... i saw others mentioning somehting about this but no one seemed to address it.... im using mod orginizer and finaly got everything wokring but this mod with it... any help would but nice...

 

i cant go back to old version wiht working swapper cuase well it dont work anymore keeps giving null pointer errors in java... so now i have broken kids on a fresh install.

 

please dont be mad at me for asking this i read everything and cant seem to figure out how to fix it.....

Try a clean reinstall of the complete Skykids files. Yor probably still got your Skyproccer packed mesh folder placed.

[Capostrophic]

I have the same glitch: Swapper just doesn't seem to work. Armorswap directory (in meshes) is present in installation archive. I tried deleting it. Obvious, that didn't helped.

Naked children, naked children everywhere... I think about returning to RS Children. :c

Edited July 29, 2015 by Capostrophic

[kainobean]

 

i cant seem to get the new version armors to work and there is no info on how to get it to work... im so confused.... the old java one worked perfectly everytime and was easy to use this one just makes all my children nude all the time even followers that i put basic armors on dont have it show up... i saw others mentioning somehting about this but no one seemed to address it.... im using mod orginizer and finaly got everything wokring but this mod with it... any help would but nice...

 

i cant go back to old version wiht working swapper cuase well it dont work anymore keeps giving null pointer errors in java... so now i have broken kids on a fresh install.

 

please dont be mad at me for asking this i read everything and cant seem to figure out how to fix it.....

Try a clean reinstall of the complete Skykids files. Yor probably still got your Skyproccer packed mesh folder placed.

 

thats the problem this is a full clean install... didnt work first time so i uninstalled all mods even skyrim and redownloaded and put everything in... i guess now i should try going through mods and disable them till the children work. maybe my armor packs are the issue...

[kainobean]

i got it working ^.^ 

seems that one of my race mods (ohmes-raht) from the nexus came with its own racecompatibility.esm and it was overwriting the proper one needed for this mod... deleted it and bam all chidren have clothing woot woot...

[delgathar]

 

 

So to give the new COTS R2 version a try, I did a racemenu preset save of Iria on the LEFT, and saved her face in sculpt menu.  Both were required.  Without the face save it was still a little wonky.  RCOTS changed the facemarks to accessories, so I lose the glasses and get a standard mole.  I also replaced the skin textures with fair skin but did not change the face textures.  Skykids cots is on the right.

 

I'm impressed.  Now if I could find the mod the glasses come from, or find a glasses mod that fits unp....

 

edit - I'm not allowed to add image extention but I can attach images? Could someone explain?

[delgathar]

SK_COTS_TES5_Scripts.zip

 

OK, These are the edited tes5 scripts for COTS.  Use them as according to the OP directions, but without the manual editing part.  I tested it by installing Eyes of Aber and can now select about 600 eyes as opposed to 12.

 

edit- I thought 600 was a bit much.  Went back, apparently all the highelf/woodelf/etc eyes got added too for a lot of duplication.  I went back and deleted all the male eyes and the elf eyes and have a much smaller list.  But still a lot bigger than 12

[crazipowerz]

Loving the new update keep up the great work en_hawk, thanks for putting in the effort. It really is the best child race mod (if not best race mod period) going by far. Your continued support, updates, and refining are greatly appreciated. Also awesome work on that new armor technique much easier than the skyproc and haven't had any issues with it all.

 

             

 

Kudos.

 

CrazipowerZ

[nap85]

Cant find any information regarding the issue I'm having. The SKSE plugin from the Base folder causes ctd. I deleted that file and the mod seems to work as intended, except that no vanilla armors display on characters. Anyone happen to know the cause of this? Assuming a conflict of some sort. Is there an esp. floating around that converts the armors? Perhaps some other work around? If not....anyone familiar with any non-vanilla armor packs/compilations that will work with sky kids? Thanks.  

 

Edit: Still having issues, although no longer ctd, just freezing at the smoke screen when I start skyrim with the skse armor plugin installed. With that plugin deleted, the game runs, but no armors work on any children, whether follower, npc, or my character. I can equip child armors as an adult race and it forces my body to a childs body. So confused. No armors from any mod work on any children with this mod installed. Seems that without the skse plugin, armors from other mods should still work on children, no?

 

Anyone happen to have a link to the old java patcher? I would like to try that, and if it doesn't work I'm going to do a full clean install of skyrim and start over...which I really, really, really don't want to do.

 

Lol....final edit: I was using an old version of GELO enchants, and its skyproc patcher was causing the issues. Not sure why, but it was. And for a moment...it was working beautifully, hairs, armors, eyes, etc. all seemed to be working. Then the hairs stopped working. So I attempted to make a patch with tesvedit and now....ctd without that patch even installed. My mind-brain is hurting. Would have been less hassle to do a clean reinstall at this point. So....I guess I'm reinstalling 90gb worth of mods.... 

 

 

Edited August 18, 2015 by nap85

[johann7124]

What version of SKSE do you have installed?

[Capostrophic]

Hm. Something fixed my problem.

[aceofstars]

hello en_hawk! i have a question, and i have no idea if the scope of my question is very simple or obnoxiously wide, so i apologize ahead of time if it is a very complex question that is asking you to explain a lot of complex mechanics to a noob! that is definitely not my intent so i just wanted to make that clear ahead of time in case i am actually asking way too much of you, because i'm definitely not wanting to offend/insult you with obnoxious requests!

 

i think the most recent update with the SKSE-based armor swapper very good!! i am looking to create replacement meshes for swapped out armor and clothes that do not yet have them (so they end up wearing the fullsize adult versions), and it seems like there are already a lot of replacement for the vanilla clothes. i know additional armor from mods also works on them, but does it use the same mesh files or create new entries? i don't seem to find any within the skykids-armorswap files, but are they saved elsewhere? i tried to poke around first before resorting to asking but i cannot find any folders for them - or is it that i need to make new folders with the updated meshes in them first? edit: (i figure it out, i think!)

 

along a similar lines, i have several existing child body armors from old replacers and standalones that i'd like to function as the swapped files to the full sized armors - is this possible or do i need to do a lot more work to implement it?  

thank you very much for your time, and also for your excellent mod!

 

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EDIT: okay! i guessed a bit, and imitated the folder structure of the modded armors (the folder structure within the Meshes directory) into the skykids-armorswap directory and that seems to work pretty well! is that the proper method or am i missing some vital steps   or taking unnecessary ones?

 

i refitted DreamBurrow's Regal Huntsman armors (not yet the belts/bandoliers though) and just imitated the folder structure DreamBurrow/outfitname/outfitelement/ etcetc within the skykids-armorswap folder and now my mini huntsman is looking very regal

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EDIT again: ah, after i missed a space within the folder name for the belts/bandolier, it became clear that the folder structure has to be exact!

[draen]

I'm having trouble with this mod. I've installed the main file and the three npc replacers (for the main game and expansions). The hearthfire kids have changed but the vanilla from honorhall haven't what I'm doing wrong?

 

Edit: Solved. Installed again and worked...