Fallout 4 TV Series!

[pinky6225]

21 minutes ago, branmakmuffin said:

Thaddeus is not the bully with the highest charisma. He's not a bully at all. He's a follower. Thaddeus is what I would call "a wimp."

 

Thaddeus explains to Maximus he was picked on until he managed to move the focus to Maximus which is classic bully behavior

[Miauzi]

Vor 2 Minuten sagte pinky6225:

 

Thaddeus erklärt Maximus, dass er gehänselt wurde, bis es ihm gelang, den Fokus auf Maximus zu lenken, was ein klassisches Tyrannenverhalten ist

 

The focus has changed because Maximus was the NEW one in the unit... and the NEW one falls (especially in the military) to be the "whipping boy" for the frustrated trainee soldiers - that's how the "system" protects them Executive floor (the officers)

[Guest]

14 minutes ago, Miauzi said:

 

As I have already written - something like ruins (blown-up aircraft hangars from the Second World War) were a daily sight for me on the way from the accommodation to the airfield during my own service in a naval helicopter squadron in the early 1980s.

That may have been different for you in the "rich West" - but you are not the benchmark for everything in the world... and it is your capitalist world that is in ruins in the Fallout universe

🤣

You're trying to convince me. Would I be able to convince you? That's a rhetorical question. We both know I would not be able to. Any more than you can me.

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, pinky6225 said:

 

Thaddeus explains to Maximus he was picked on until he managed to move the focus to Maximus which is classic bully behavior

It's pretty clear Thaddeus is nothing even close to the leader of the group that is beating up Maximus. He's standing off to the side yelling "Hit him again," looking very tentative. Then he kicks Maximus when he knows it's safe. Which is classic bully follower behavior.

[Miauzi]

Vor 19 Minuten sagte Branmakmuffin:

Du versuchst mich zu überzeugen. Könnte ich Sie überzeugen? Das ist eine rhetorische Frage. Wir wissen beide, dass ich dazu nicht in der Lage wäre. Mehr als du kannst, ich.

 

Honestly no... I've just learned in my long life that there is more than just one way of looking at things

Edited April 16, 2024 by Miauzi

[pinky6225]

5 minutes ago, branmakmuffin said:

It's pretty clear Thaddeus is nothing even close to the leader of the group that is beating up Maximus. He's standing off to the side yelling "Hit him again," looking very tentative. Then he kicks Maximus when he knows it's safe. Which is classic bully follower behavior.

 

His dialogue to Maximus were he literally says he was the target until he managed to shift that to maximus kinda conflicts with that, if he wasn't the leader (now he's found a better target) then why would they have moved from him to someone else?

[Guest]

11 minutes ago, Miauzi said:

 

Honestly no... I've just learned in my long life that there is more than just one way of looking at things

Yes, there is. But if we want to come to a conclusion (and there's no requirement that we do so for something as trivial as whether or not Fallout realistically depicts how things will look 200 years after World War 3), then each of us will come to the conclusion that seems most reasonable to us.

Edited April 16, 2024 by branmakmuffin

[Miauzi]

Vor 3 Minuten sagte pinky6225:

 

Sein Dialog mit Maximus, in dem er buchstäblich sagt, dass er das Ziel war, bis er es geschafft hat, das auf Maximus zu verlagern, steht irgendwie im Widerspruch dazu: Wenn er nicht der Anführer wäre (jetzt hat er ein besseres Ziel gefunden), warum hätten sie dann von ihm zu jemandem wechseln sollen? anders?

 

Do you know the term “opportunist”? - Mr. Thaddeus is exactly that kind of person... just the victim of the beating himself, he now stands next to it and encourages his former tormentors to beat up the NEW victim... and when the victim is finally on the ground - he then kicks himself - it's now safe for him

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, pinky6225 said:

 

His dialogue to Maximus were he literally says he was the target until he managed to shift that to maximus kinda conflicts with that, if he wasn't the leader (now he's found a better target) then why would they have moved from him to someone else?

I don't remember that line exactly, but if Thaddeus was being bullied until he convinced the bullies to move to Maximus. It doesn't conflict with my assertion, it supports it.

[pinky6225]

4 minutes ago, Miauzi said:

 

Do you know the term “opportunist”? - Mr. Thaddeus is exactly that kind of person... just the victim of the beating himself, he now stands next to it and encourages his former tormentors to beat up the NEW victim... and when the victim is finally on the ground - he then kicks himself - it's now safe for him

 

3 minutes ago, branmakmuffin said:

I don't remember that line exactly, but if Thaddeus was being bullied until he convinced the bullies to move to Maximus. It doesn't conflict with my assertion, it supports it.

 

Someone who is bullied often go onto bully others (go google if you want, as they say in GoT it is known) so someone who was bullied (prior to finding an alternative victim) then going onto to bully a victim that isn't themselves is very consistent with bully behaviour

[Miauzi]

Vor 10 Minuten sagte pinky6225:

 

 

Jemand, der gemobbt wird, geht oft dazu über, andere zu schikanieren (gehen Sie auf Google, wenn Sie wollen, wie es in GoT heißt), also geht jemand, der gemobbt wurde (bevor er ein alternatives Opfer gefunden hat), dazu über, ein Opfer zu schikanieren, das nicht er selbst ist ist sehr konsistent mit Mobbingverhalten

 

I don't have to look on the internet to find out - sorry - but the Maxism scene took me back 40 years into my own past... I guess I don't have to write more about it

[Guest]

1 hour ago, pinky6225 said:

 

 

Someone who is bullied often go onto bully others (go google if you want, as they say in GoT it is known) so someone who was bullied (prior to finding an alternative victim) then going onto to bully a victim that isn't themselves is very consistent with bully behaviour

Now you're just saying "It could have happened the way I say." Yes, it certainly could have, but that's not what it looks like. I don't see in Thaddeus anything but a spinless, ass-kissing little twerp.

[Kanutten]

Well, that is no contradiction to being a bully.

[Guest]

7 hours ago, Kanutten said:

Well, that is no contradiction to being a bully.

If someone is the follower of a bully and joins in the "alpha" bully's bullying, they are also a bully? Is that your point?

 

My point is that without being part of such a crew Thaddeus would not be bullying anyone.

[Miauzi]

Vor 4 Stunden sagte Branmakmuffin:

Wenn jemand der Gefolgsmann eines Tyrannen ist und sich an dessen Mobbing beteiligt, ist er dann auch ein Tyrann? Ist das Ihr Punkt?

 

Mein Punkt ist, dass Thaddeus ohne die Mitgliedschaft in einer solchen Crew niemanden schikanieren würde.

 

The whole thing also only works for the others within a group - none of them (these trainees) have the "grit" to face their bullying victim alone

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, Miauzi said:

 

The whole thing also only works for the others within a group - none of them (these trainees) have the "grit" to face their bullying victim alone

That is exactly the idea I get from the scene of Maximus being beaten up. There are mainly two very large guys, larger than him, punching him, Then, when he's down, a woman and Thaddeus kick him. In my view, they intentionally cast a wimpy-looking actor to play Thaddeus because Thaddeus is meant to be a wimp. Now, I thought the actor who played Thaddeus did a good job, but that's beside the point.

 

Thaddeus's kick, even when Maximus is down, seems tentative.

 

EDIT: Instead of that Johnny Cash song, they should have played "Ain't That a Kick in the Head."

Edited April 17, 2024 by branmakmuffin

[Guest]

Speak for yourself. PC Gamer. I do not want to see aliens in season 2 of Fallout. Or ever (speaking for myself).

[Gameplayer]

Who else was worried that we would have to fix the

Fallout TV show?

 

😆 

 

Turned out ok, for television it's a fine enough show sort of surprised guess I was expecting a super Mario adaptation haha.

[travelmedic]

1 hour ago, Gameplayer said:

Who else was worried that we would have to fix the

Fallout TV show?

 

😆

 

Turned out ok, for television it's a fine enough show sort of surprised guess I was expecting a super Mario adaptation haha.

 

Based on the first 2 or 3 episodes, I thought there would be no fixing it.  As much as I really loved the sets and costumes and stuff, it just wasn't pulling me in.

 

That all changed by episode 4 for me, at which point I totally loved it!

[Guest]

3 hours ago, travelmedic said:

 

Based on the first 2 or 3 episodes, I thought there would be no fixing it.  As much as I really loved the sets and costumes and stuff, it just wasn't pulling me in.

 

That all changed by episode 4 for me, at which point I totally loved it!

For me, it drops off for eps 5-8. But still good enough to finish. Unlike another Prime show, which shall remain nameless, aside from the fact that its name is The Rings of Power.

[misterpipes]

Totally unbelievable show. Theres no way its based on Fallout. I watched it for 8 hours and it didn't crash once. For the first time in quite a hile I'm actually looking forward to a second season.

 

Personally I thought the BoS portrayal was pretty good. Better organised savengers with bigger guns and better armour. Sure, some might believe in the ideals of the BoS, but others aren't going to care about it (I'll just note here the BoS in FO3 is an aberation, what with its active recruitment of members and actual trying to defend the wasteland, and the really BoS in FO3 is the Outcasts).

 

 

[Guest]

On 5/2/2024 at 12:23 PM, misterpipes said:

Personally I thought the BoS portrayal was pretty good. Better organised savengers with bigger guns and better armour

That does not jibe with the Brotherhood as depicted in 3 (Outcast or Citadel), NV or 4 (especially 4), in my opinion. That describes the Gunners as far as I'm concerned.

[South8028]

it's a normal show. It's not a masterpiece, but it turned out well. The bad thing... I think in shelters people don’t have a 3D printer that prints new overalls. They are in too good shape for 200 years of use. Also, shelters cannot have shampoos with conditioner. All the inhabitants of the shelter look very good for an isolated enclave underground. Also. There is not enough globality in the carparatocracy of the world fo4. As in the game, the pre-war corporations of the Fallout world look like kindergarten. Some local small companies, but not transnational giants. The world is plastic and too vanilla. The show's creators could have backed off the game a little in favor of realism.

[Guest]

5 hours ago, South8028 said:

The show's creators could have backed off the game a little in favor of realism.

Same goes for the games, which I think you alluded to.

[NotKinkyEnough]

watched it once, will watch again. I want to discuss some aspects which would be of interest to this community so in spoilers

 

Spoiler

Lucy spends quite a bit of time captive to 'The Ghoul', bound and forced to follow. This is the kind of content we want from some death alternative / capture mods| Lucy is driven to the limits of thirst and offered only radioactive water by her captor. She was tied to some 'scenery' and thought she was being tortured by being dunked in water - infact she was used as bait. She is traded to a 'medical facility' where she presumed she had been sold as a sex slave. (the truth was more immediately perilous). 

There's quite a bit of stuff in the show which gives us good ways to think about capture scenarios and death alternatives.