Devious Devices NG

[donell]

is it safe to update to the new version?

[krzp]

8 minutes ago, donell said:

is it safe to update to the new version?

I've upgraded on a live game from 0.2.7, didn't see anything breaking - I think it should be safe.

[Rubikon11]

I am getting some CTDs. They have happened for DCL when it tries to equip a lot of devices (bondage adventure for example), and for Devious Strike for a transfer-all event. The last one was repeatable for several tries, and it worked when I disabled DD-NG. I have the DD-NG patch installed. I have attached the crash log.  

 

Edit: just noticed that there is a brand-new release. Haven't tried that one yet and will do so once I have time.

 

Edit2: The new version seems to have solved the problem (0.2.9)

 

crash-2023-11-12-20-57-55.log

Edited November 13, 2023 by Rubikon11

[valentinian]

Really am enjoying all the new animations and SMP improvements to DD, among all the other things!  Just wanted to make this clear before I write down the nitpicks.

 

A few potential bug / notes from my 1.5.97 install for 0.2.9:

 

- The wrong animation appears to be installed in Devious Devices NG v0.2.9\meshes\actors\character\animations\OpenAnimationReplacer\DD to OAR\100005\DD\_variants_ZazHornyE.  10005 should have been animations for yokes, but the animation in this directory is for elbowbinders.

 

- There seems to be some unintended consequences for blocking plug manipulation while in heavy bondage.  When other mod scripts attempt to put in plugs on a bound player (who otherwise has no plugs or chastity belt), it fails to do so because presumably the akActor.WornHasKeyword(libs.zad_DeviousHeavyBondage) check in the OnEquippedFilter is blocking it from doing so. 

 

    While it's reasonable for a mod to try to put in plugs before belts (which the existing check served), I'm not sure it's reasonable for mods to have to run plug code before heavy bondage code

 

- The Bodyslide osp file in 0.2.9 ships with -- in addition to the presumably intentional change for the soulgem vaginal piercing-- additional changes to the soulgem nipple piercing, the ebonite armbinder, and the ropebinder.  The soulgem nipple piercing changes, when rebuilt with bodyslide, no longer appears on my character for some reason.  Meanwhile, the ropebinder changes appear to undo the 5.2 bodyslide patch (from the following post), which may or may not be intentional? 

 

 

 

Edited November 13, 2023 by valentinian

[krzp]

8 minutes ago, valentinian said:

- The wrong animation appears to be installed in Devious Devices NG v0.2.9\meshes\actors\character\animations\OpenAnimationReplacer\DD to OAR\100005\DD\_variants_ZazHornyE.  10005 should have been animations for yokes, but the animation in this directory is for elbowbinders.

Thanks! ?

 

that one's on me - should've noticed that one of the animations has a suspiciously different name from the other ones in that folder ?‍♂️

 

that one needs to be deleted & the correct one copied over from base DD's folder

\Devious Devices for SE-AE-VR\meshes\actors\character\animations\DD\ft_orgasm_yoke_1.hkx

to fix it right now & i'll pack the correct one for the next update.

[lacie_]

I noticed since upgrading to DD NG that I am unable to use consumables when using open gags like the ring gag. I probably installed another couple mods using the DD framework before noticing this issue as well so I'm not positive this mod is the culprit, but just wondering if this is a known issue with ng

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, asdj1239 said:

I noticed since upgrading to DD NG that I am unable to use consumables when using open gags like the ring gag. I probably installed another couple mods using the DD framework before noticing this issue as well so I'm not positive this mod is the culprit, but just wondering if this is a known issue with ng

 

Can you post your DD NG log (My Games/SKSE/DeviousDevices.log)? We adding some logging to diagnose this.

[rilieAP]

Am I missing something, when I build Bodysilde on this new 2.9 download, I get errors on every DD item.  Is this expected or did I miss a download?

[Guest]

29 minutes ago, RileyAP said:

Am I missing something, when I build Bodysilde on this new 2.9 download, I get errors on every DD item.  Is this expected or did I miss a download?

 

Can you screenshot the errors, not able to replicate this.

[rilieAP]

[zarantha]

10 hours ago, RileyAP said:

 

Do you still have DD 5.2 installed? DD NG installs on top of it, it doesn't replace it.

Edit: You should be asking for help from Nefram since you are using that list. 

Edited November 14, 2023 by zarantha

[serranna]

On 11/12/2023 at 5:50 PM, ponzipyramid said:

We also have a stronger idea of our roadmap on the SKSE side:

v0.3 will the fully native device and node hider that @ihatemykite cooked up. This is going into QA on the Discord soon.

v0.4 will be native and enhanced SL animation filtering (and likely P+ phase 2 support)
v0.5 will be native equip and unequip handling

 

I know you can't necessarily predict exactly what's going to happen, but to the best of your knowledge will any of these updates be expected to require a new game in the future?

[krzp]

10 minutes ago, serranna said:

 

I know you can't necessarily predict exactly what's going to happen, but to the best of your knowledge will any of these updates be expected to require a new game in the future?

Can't say about any other ones, but the animation one will definitely need a new save, as DD's anim filter sets up on a new game and sits there.

I've tested half the weather mods on Nexus while constantly restarting when Taki made adjustments to the filtering system ?

[serranna]

4 hours ago, krzp said:

Can't say about any other ones, but the animation one will definitely need a new save, as DD's anim filter sets up on a new game and sits there.

 

That's good to know. It means I need not get too invested in going deep into my current save knowing I'm gonna have to restart again.

[johntrine]

4 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Do you still have DD 5.2 installed? DD NG installs on top of it, it doesn't replace it.

Edit: You should be asking for help from Nefram since you are using that list. 

hey man, sorry for cluttering this thread, do you happen to know how to fix arm clipping with elbow and arm binders and such? i remember you working on the 3ba conversion

[Hakuna_Matata]

My hair is gone. I suspect the device hider. In the Devious Devices MCM I turned the device hider off but that did not help.

I'm using actual hair, not a wig. Xint's BDO pack.

 

How would I test this hypothesis without uninstalling devious devices ng and breaking my save games?

Any way to turn off the device hider in this mod separately?

[XCwosjw]

Sadly, CTD is still happening (when the main interface loads)

Crash_2023_11_14_22-48-50.txt DeviousDevicesNG.log

[XCwosjw]

4 minutes ago, XCwosjw said:

遗憾的是，CTD 仍在发生（当主界面加载时）

Crash_2023_11_14_22-48-50.txt 94.47 KB · 0 下载 DeviousDevicesNG.log 8.92 KB · 0 下载

Maybe I should also include the OAR log.

OpenAnimationReplacer.log

[Guest]

1 hour ago, XCwosjw said:

Sadly, CTD is still happening (when the main interface loads)

Crash_2023_11_14_22-48-50.txt 94.47 kB · 2 downloads DeviousDevicesNG.log 8.92 kB · 0 downloads

 

This seems like another DLL is creating issues. I'd try testing with just ng to and add mods to see where it might be popping up.

[krzp]

3 hours ago, XCwosjw said:

Sadly, CTD is still happening (when the main interface loads)

Crash_2023_11_14_22-48-50.txt 94.47 kB · 3 downloads DeviousDevicesNG.log 8.92 kB · 1 download

How many animations do you have installed between FNIS & OAR?

[rilieAP]

15 hours ago, zarantha said:

 

Do you still have DD 5.2 installed? DD NG installs on top of it, it doesn't replace it.

Edit: You should be asking for help from Nefram since you are using that list. 

Thanks for the response and yes using Nef, I'll ask around in the list discord to see who else is using and if they have any issues though..  The list comes with DD 5.2 by default and it is still installed.  I was using .2.7 with the patch and didn't get these errors so I assumed it had to be from .2.9 so I asked here with the new version.  Also my Nef list is heavily modified, at this point it's more that it's my base

 

Edit, I figured it out based on your response though, some files were hidden by defualt from the list and I didn't realize it, I fixed it so thanks!!

Edited November 14, 2023 by RileyAP

[zarantha]

3 hours ago, RileyAP said:

Thanks for the response and yes using Nef, I'll ask around in the list discord to see who else is using and if they have any issues though..  The list comes with DD 5.2 by default and it is still installed.  I was using .2.7 with the patch and didn't get these errors so I assumed it had to be from .2.9 so I asked here with the new version.  Also my Nef list is heavily modified, at this point it's more that it's my base

 

Edit, I figured it out based on your response though, some files were hidden by defualt from the list and I didn't realize it, I fixed it so thanks!!

 

That would do it lol.

 

The reason I referred back is because of exactly that reason - things are done to the list that you are not necessarily aware of, and would not be known by people supporting the mod outside of the list. We can only help so far, if they patch or modify the mod, we've got no way of knowing what was done.

[zarantha]

13 hours ago, johntrine said:

hey man, sorry for cluttering this thread, do you happen to know how to fix arm clipping with elbow and arm binders and such? i remember you working on the 3ba conversion

 

Run bodyslide and make sure the output is going to the right place. the 3ba conversion is included in the 5.2 installer already.

[johntrine]

1 hour ago, zarantha said:

 

Run bodyslide and make sure the output is going to the right place. the 3ba conversion is included in the 5.2 installer already.

i did that and the elbow blinders do spawn correctly, it is just that the hands are still visible inside the binders. from what i remember, in the old cbbe bodyslide, they made sure that hand part that is supposed to be inside the binder was technically deleted, you know? and that isnt happening. which makes it so that the hands are still visible.

[audhol]

1 hour ago, johntrine said:

i did that and the elbow blinders do spawn correctly, it is just that the hands are still visible inside the binders. from what i remember, in the old cbbe bodyslide, they made sure that hand part that is supposed to be inside the binder was technically deleted, you know? and that isnt happening. which makes it so that the hands are still visible.

Its possible that the errors are down to me, I had messed about a bit adding SMP to the armbinder for the locks and rings but its not finished. However I uploaded my version of the DD3BA.osp along with the new vaginal piercings.

 

The Nipple piercing bodyslide is also broken again my fault, I'm working on getting both an upgraded mesh of the armbinder together with SMP nipple piercings featuring the same glow shaders as the vaginal ones for the next update.

 

Sorry for the cockup.