Cold Nipple Morphs for SunHelm or FrostFall, RaceMenu, and 3BA

[km4387]

Cold Nipple Morphs for SunHelm or FrostFall, RaceMenu, and 3BA

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I wanted a mod that would extend and puff my PC's nipples slightly when cold.  I've little experience doing things from scratch like this, but spent some time over the last couple weeks on it and this is what I've got.  I work full time+ so I can't devote the hours to it that I'd like.  It makes the nipples slightly longer, and slightly puffy gradually as you get colder and clears them as you get warm.  This is a couple weeks work in my spare time as an inexperienced modder, and is very beta.  Feedback is quite welcome so that I can continue to learn.

 

Requirements:
SunHelm or FrostFall
RaceMenu
3BA

 

Details:
Over 4 steps of Sunhelms Chilly, Cold, Freezing, and Friged states (FrostFall: Cold, Very Cold, Freezing, and Freezing to Death), increases "NippleLength" to a max of 0.2 and "NipplePuffy_V2" to a max 0.5.  Values are hardcoded for now.  Uses "RegisterForSingleUpdate" every 20 seconds.  I don't think it needs to be instant.  Consider this totally for testing and feedback.  I highly recommend backing up your save previous to trying it.  For now this only affects the player.

 

This uses SSE Racemenu Morphs directly, and does not require and should not conflict with SLIF.

 

The plugin is only used to start the scripts, overwrites zero vanilla records, and is an ESP in ESL format and will not take up a space in your load order.  Should be safe to install or uninstall, but get to a warm or comfortable state before uninstalling so you're sure your morphs are zeroed. See above and make a back up before installing.

 

These settings may not be to everyone's liking, but it's exactly as I envisioned for my own needs - it's meant to be subtle.  Depending on reception, peoples ideas, my own ideas - I may extend it further later on. Possibilities include: add an MCM with configurable morph sliders, timer settings, other cold systems, and perhaps a male option to shrink the scrotum.  And if that works out later, I may add nearby NPCs.  Source is included if anyone wants to make additions or recommendations.

 

Installation:

Install the requirements

Install like any other mod

 

Uninstallation:

Remove the mod, load your save, click yes to continue loading and the script will self terminate after 20 seconds.  You can use the FallRim Tools ReSaver to clean if you like.

 

Permissions:
Do what you want with it, but credit me for the original.

 

Credits:

 

PyGee333 for the beautiful MCM artwork you'll see in the next version.

 

ChangeLog:

.03alpha: Added rudimentary MCM for developers to see what I'm doing.  Users will see the added MCM, but it doesn't do anything yet.

.02a: Hotfix for repeating notifications if FrostFall cold value = -1.  Need to know WHY it's -1.

.02: Added Frostfall support

.01: initial release

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• Submitter
  km4387
• Submitted
  09/29/2023
• Category
  Adult Mods
• Requires
  SunHelm or FrostFall, RaceMenu, 3BA
• Regular Edition Compatible
  No

 

Edited October 29, 2023 by km4387

[km4387]

Reserved.

 

If anyone has any good GIF's or screens of this in action, I'll add them and thank you profusely

[venomr]

If you ever get around to configurable morph sliders, try and make it so that we can enter any sliders we want, that way even custom sliders can work for it. 

 

I'm not sure the mechanics behind it. but some mods like an addon for milk mod economy, and "Devourment Refractored" on the nexus are set up to work with any slider names people choose to input, even custom sliders.

 

It also opens up the door for things like the entire breast shrinking because it got too cold ( sort of like balls shrinking for a guy) or the breasts getting larger as you warm up

 

[km4387]

2 minutes ago, venomr said:

If you ever get around to configurable morph sliders, try and make it so that we can enter any sliders we want, that way even custom sliders can work for it. 

 

I'm not sure the mechanics behind it. but some mods like an addon for milk mod economy, and "Devourment Refractored" on the nexus are set up to work with any slider names people choose to input, even custom sliders.

 

It also opens up the door for things like the entire breast shrinking because it got too cold ( sort of like balls shrinking for a guy) or the breasts getting larger as you warm up

Those are my thoughts exactly.  This is a very simple mod if you look at the script, but could be extended in alot of ways.  Thank you for the input and ideas.

[belegost]

Nice idea. Needs Frostfall version as well though.

Edited September 30, 2023 by belegost

[Je3ky3z]

This mod does something similar with character nipple morphs, but with more comprehensive customisations and different trigger (linked to OSL or SL arousal):

 

 

 

[km4387]

9 hours ago, belegost said:

Nice idea. Needs Frostfall version as well though.

I may add that later - the thought already crossed my mind, but I'm using SunHelm at the moment so that's what I used.

 

51 minutes ago, Je3ky3z said:

This mod does something similar with character nipple morphs, but with more comprehensive customisations and different trigger (linked to OSL or SL arousal):

 

 

 

Thank you for the link, there's also ABBA for arousal based morphs, which I'm using an older version of for now.  I wanted just this tiny amount of morphing for being cold when using a survival mod and a bit of practice to get to understand things a little better.

[Naps-On-Dirt]

Another mod you could look at is "Aroused Nips" by TTT here on LL.  Links with standard arousal mods and has a Frostfall patch I think.  Pretty sure it got ported to SE too.

[km4387]

This mod is for morphs due to cold and weather, so in the future let's keep on that topic.  I thank those few who responded for the thoughts, ideas, and links to assist me in the learning experience.  But arousal based morphs are already done many times over, and not the topic here.  Thank you.  I'd like more ideas based on my intent.

 

Feedback is good though, so don't take me as rude - and those links provided point me to something I can learn from.  I just want to be on topic and move this to its intended goal.  I mentioned "other cold systems" in my OP, so Frostfall support is a possibility in the future - already under consideration.  If you use another survival system, link me so I can add it to the list.  Ultimately as long as whichever mod isn't obfuscating it's values, I should be able to make this work with anything.

 

Along those lines, if  you are using body mods other than 3BA, and can recommend compatible racemenu morph sliders - I can try to make it work with those.  Not a big deal for me to temporarily install something else for testing, but I'm a 3BA user and won't make a permanent move.

[Guest]

+1 for Frostfall please, I'm struggling to find Aroused Nips for SE *and* with Frostfall tweak anywhere.

 

running 3BA/ABBA/Frostfall/WetAndCold/Campfire/Hunterborn/SkillsOfTheWild/iNeed/RND/CACO  on SE v1.5.97 Best of Both with ccSurvivalMode turned off, cuz immersion.

 

edit: did eventually find the functioning version of Aroused Nips a couple pages back in the thread.

Edited October 18, 2023 by w2bvaultmeat

[km4387]

3 hours ago, w2bvaultmeat said:

+1 for Frostfall please, I'm struggling to find Aroused Nips for SE *and* with Frostfall tweak anywhere.

 

running 3BA/ABBA/Frostfall/WetAndCold/Campfire/Hunterborn/SkillsOfTheWild/iNeed/RND/CACO  on SE v1.5.97 Best of Both with ccSurvivalMode turned off, cuz immersion.

 

I'll get on it soon - I'm off work tomorrow and maybe Sunday.  I've downloaded FrostFall 3.4.1 and Campfire and FrostFall - Unofficial Update 1.3.  Hopefully won't be a big deal to make it work - then we need a MCM for active/inactive/uninstall, two morph sliders for the moment, invert/reverse options just in case, and perhaps control over the stages of cold the effect begins - that last will most likely be a different update.

Edited October 17, 2023 by km4387

[km4387]

I spent this evening on FrostFall support.  I can get all the values I need but I'm getting compile errors I'm not sure of.  A little more time, I'll figure it out.  If you're a FrostFall user, don't dispair - I'll make it work.

 

New version for FrostFall users is up - let me know if you have any problems.

Edited October 23, 2023 by km4387

[sath81]

Nice, im interested in the frostfall support bigtime

[sath81]

im getting message spam, that says cold out of expected bounds (0-5) -1.0000000

[km4387]

4 hours ago, sath81 said:

im getting message spam, that says cold out of expected bounds (0-5) -1.0000000

Do you have FrostFall enabled or cold disabled?  I never saw that value when testing, so I left the debug message there to let you know if there was a problem.  The value should fall between 0 and 5.  I'll need to figure out why it's at -1 and put a different catch in there.

 

You can safely uninstall the mod for now due to the spam, the script will self terminate after 20 seconds.

 

Edit: New version is up that doesn't fix the problem, but will terminate the script instead of spamming the debug message.  Uninstall, save, clean if desired, and reinstall to restart the script.

Edited October 23, 2023 by km4387

[Anunya]

Hey thanks for making this. I look forward to trying it out next time I play.

[km4387]

2 minutes ago, Anunya said:

Hey thanks for making this. I look forward to trying it out next time I play.

You're quite welcome - it was just something I wanted and decided to share.  I'm not as advanced as many people on here, but it's at least functional.  Let me know how you like it when the time comes - should be safe to install mid game.

[km4387]

3 minutes ago, Gyra said:

Could you make sunhelm and frostfall optional, and provide an option to check current weather instead?

That actually had occurred to me.  I'll check into it.  Vanilla weathers shouldn't be a problem, but there's alot of different weather mods and I don't know how they each approach cold weather (I use Obsidian Weathers and Seasons).  I'll do some research when I get time and see if it's plausible.  Thank you for the suggestion.

Edited October 23, 2023 by km4387

[myhouseatl]

Please don't add to NPC's.  ABBA spams me to death when that option is enabled.  However, Companions would be nice.

 

Clothing items are working fine.  I get puffy nipples through the clothes.  However, I can't seem to get anything when necked.  Not sure if other mod's are interfering.  I have ABBA, SLIF and Fertility and tweaks.  I also have OBody.  That is all I can think of that modifies bodies.

[km4387]

32 minutes ago, myhouseatl said:

Please don't add to NPC's.  ABBA spams me to death when that option is enabled.  However, Companions would be nice.

 

Clothing items are working fine.  I get puffy nipples through the clothes.  However, I can't seem to get anything when necked.  Not sure if other mod's are interfering.  I have ABBA, SLIF and Fertility and tweaks.  I also have OBody.  That is all I can think of that modifies bodies.

I have the same problem with ABBA, so I understand what you're saying.  If and when I get that far with it, I'll see how it performs before I ruin the experience for people.

 

I had a problem once where morphs wouldn't apply until I changed clothes or armor, it was due to the memory manager setting in Engine Fixes.  Try setting "MemoryManager = false" in the "EngineFixes.toml" file.  There's a second setting that also needs set to false, if I recall, or my own game would crash - I think it was "ScaleformAllocator = false".  Once I did that my morphs all appeared properly in real time.  SLIF doesn't like the memory manager for some reason.

 

I can't think of any other reason the morphs wouldn't apply when naked unless you're body was built without morphs and the clothes were built with them.  I'm sure that's not the case since you seem familiar with morph mods.  I'll have to think on that a little more if you can't get it working.  Or maybe someone else has an idea.  It's working with or without clothes for me.

Edited October 24, 2023 by km4387

[N.Gamma]

Thank you for creating this mod.
It would be great if you could set the nipple settings via the MCM, because I think that with different body presets also different nipple settings might be necessary. Your previous settings you could still use as a default for the mod.

[myhouseatl]

1 hour ago, km4387 said:

I have the same problem with ABBA, so I understand what you're saying.  If and when I get that far with it, I'll see how it performs before I ruin the experience for people.

 

I had a problem once where morphs wouldn't apply until I changed clothes or armor, it was due to the memory manager setting in Engine Fixes.  Try setting "MemoryManager = false" in the "EngineFixes.toml" file.  There's a second setting that also needs set to false, if I recall, or my own game would crash - I think it was "ScaleformAllocator = false".  Once I did that my morphs all appeared properly in real time.  SLIF doesn't like the memory manager for some reason.

 

I can't think of any other reason the morphs wouldn't apply when naked unless you're body was built without morphs and the clothes were built with them.  I'm sure that's not the case since you seem familiar with morph mods.  I'll have to think on that a little more if you can't get it working.  Or maybe someone else has an idea.  It's working with or without clothes for me.

Oooof.  Memory manager is pretty important....  I did try it just to see if it helped and no go.  Perhaps ScaleformAllocator wasn't the proper setting?  Not sure but, I actually suspect OBody might be the problem.  I set my body type using OBody instead of making the body type in bodyslide.  Other body morphs work fine though.  IE: ABBA and Fertility mode.  I do have SLIF controlling them because they do similar body morphs.  But, I did have Fertility mode working before I installed ABBA and SLIF.

[km4387]

10 hours ago, myhouseatl said:

Oooof.  Memory manager is pretty important....  I did try it just to see if it helped and no go.  Perhaps ScaleformAllocator wasn't the proper setting?  Not sure but, I actually suspect OBody might be the problem.  I set my body type using OBody instead of making the body type in bodyslide.  Other body morphs work fine though.  IE: ABBA and Fertility mode.  I do have SLIF controlling them because they do similar body morphs.  But, I did have Fertility mode working before I installed ABBA and SLIF.

I remembered right, just found a post talking about a similar issue and those settings.  But that's not helping you at the moment anyway.

 

I'm not familiar with OBody.  But I do use AutoBody.  In autoBodyConfig.ini is a setting, in my case: "bEnableClothingRefit = 0" cause it has the ability to adjust morphs differently (such as nipple length) when clothed compared to when naked, but that almost sounds reverse of your problem.  Something to look into perhaps.  I disabled the setting cause I didn't like the clothed adjustments - though I didn't bother tweaking the morphs either.

 

If you figure out anything further, let us know, because it may help someone else with the same issue.

[km4387]

11 hours ago, N.Gamma said:

Thank you for creating this mod.
It would be great if you could set the nipple settings via the MCM, because I think that with different body presets also different nipple settings might be necessary. Your previous settings you could still use as a default for the mod.

You're welcome! MCM is definitely on top of my TODO list, just wanted the basic workings tested and FrostFall support before I got distracted with other things.  There are tons of reasonably simple examples out there for me to follow, and it won't need to be crazy advanced, so hopefully it won't take long to accomplish.

[km4387]

So I'm setting up the basic MCM, released an alpha that doesn't do squat - no need to download unless you're interested in the inner workings.  I've sent a message to PyGee333 of Porny Banners fame asking if he'd like to add the MCM art for the default page - here's hoping

 

Added a couple screenshots - one for warm, one for freezing - admittedly my settings are so subtle that it's hard to see, but it's how I want it.  The coming MCM changes are so you can make it how YOU like it.

 

And yes, I see the freckles look outrageous.  With ENB, sometimes you cant see them at all, but in light like that, they're too pronounced.  Ignore it and focus on the nipple goodness.

Edited October 29, 2023 by km4387