Sexrim

[WitchGirl]

Hey; here's something that I don't think has been mentioned. And granted it's a bit more subtle than some of the focus seems to be. But;

 

There's an Intimidate and an Persuade option for Speech-craft checks already, but what about a Seduce?

[menatv]

Was just reading through a bunch of these suggestions. Wow you all have some GREAT ideas! Hope some or all of these eventually get implemented!

 

I realize that one poster was just halfway joking, but I like the dildo weapons idea.

 

My PC could wander into some area that maybe she was warned about not going into. But she'd blithely stumble into the area anyway. She would get surrounded by what she would innocently and perhaps naively think was a group of people with extremely small/dull weapons. Then she would get held and one native would approach her and she would discover it's not some sort of dull weapon. It would be a long dildo either on a spear or some other longish weapon. And he would laugh and point it right between her legs...as if to tell her what would be in store for her..

 

Or plants in some sort of weird field of vegetation could sprout dildos to ensnare and penetrate our victim(s) when attempting to transverse that area.

 

I like the idea of some sort of sexual cult too that the PC could wander into. He/she could get seduced/hypnotized or just plain taken by that group of cult members, depending on perhaps certain conversational options/checks.

 

I also would enjoy it being gender specific. Or these quests and mod's be able to be played with whatever gender you want. I am a bicurious male, so wouldn't mind some involving gay-type themes. Though really I play as a female and imagine myself as a certain female in my mind when I am playing this game. Wish too there were more customization in creating the female self that I'd want, but that's another issue..

 

Just a few of my warped ideas I thought I would contribute with!

 

[itt1968]

By the Gods I love Shrek! Donkey was-and still is- Awesome. sorry, just had to post my 2 cents bout that LMAO

[itt1968]

First off, just joined your, so far awesome lil group, and I must admit Im really impressed... Good job one and all.. no bashing, no fighting (pointless anyway), just awesome. I just read entire thread and found that thee idea of rape and being raped is a awesome idea. thanks to you wonderful modders i can create one sexy lil character and dress her in all the latest slut gear. but to no avail. I would like to see more "reaction" from npc' like "Looks like some ones trying to get lucky, maybe ...me?" or a female saying something like "SLUT!!!" Thoe the mos we made for Morrowind and Oblivian were nice, I just thought they were missing extra dialoge. If my pc is a slut or whore dog wouldnt the general populace know of my affairs? Exspecially if i have been sleeping with so and so's wife or husband. and if my pc works at a whore house... well i hope that says it all. any way thats my only gripe about those mods, with Skyrim we dont seem to be limited on dialoge thats for sure I just think it would be kewl that npc's notice or react to what it is pc is doing or wearing. just a thought... and I love the idea of the sex tree perks, that would be awesome.

[rylasasin]

Dunno if this has been suggested already, but a few ideas I had.

 

1. Put in some prisoner-rapings (or at the least some prisoners to free) in the dungeons (I mean the wilderness ones you clear bandits/rogue cultists from, not the ones you get sent to when you commit crimes)? I mean unlike in oblivion there's PLENTY of opportunity for it and lots of cages to put prisoners in, yet I find it funny that whenever I charge into a ruin all the prisoners are either not there or they're dead upon arrival.

 

2. Perhaps some transitionary animations between changing positions? What I mean is this:

 

In LoverswithPK, friendsandlovers, Sexus, and sexout, whenever you change positions its just like "Okay I'm screwing you like this" (hit z) *POOF* now I'm taking you from behind *poof* now you instantiously teleported onto your back and I froze time and spread your legs and now i'm screwing you missionary style" etc.

 

What I mean is, perhaps insert some animations actually showing both/all three/four/five/six (if you get that far that you can do orgies) of the people actually getting into position instead of just instantiously transfering from one position to another? Like if you go from Doggie to cowgirl, actually show the man pulling out of the girl, laying on his back, and then having the girl strattling him, and THEN start the cowgirl animation? Granted, some might think that's sort of a waste of time, but I think its a lot more realistic and a lot more immersive that way.

 

That might mean having quite a few less sex anims, (since that would mean having to take a lot more time to make transitions between them) but quite frankly I'd rather have a few GOOD sex animations (like with sexout) and some really immersive transitions between the ones we have, than just having a crapload of sub par anims with only a few good ones thrown in.(like with LoverswithPK)

[xiro8877]

Rylassin there's a company called Illusion that specializes in 3d sex games. THEY don't even animate position changes. There's a reason for it. There's not enough pay off. Not to beat down your idea...but you'd have to animate every possible transition. Let's pretend you only have three sex positions. Missionary, doggy and cowgirl. You now have to make animations for missionary changing to cowgirl and doggy. Then doggy to cowgirl and missionary. Then Cowgirl to missionary and doggy.

 

You've LITERALLY trippled the animations you have to do JUST to input transitions when really all you had to do was make 3 sex positions and animate them. So basically take however many positions you want...and multiply it by itself. And that's how many animations the animator would have to make in order to animate position changes. You want 10 sex positions? Congratulations. The animator has to make 100 animations to implement transitions. This could have been side stepped if the animator would have ignored transitions and just focused on sex animations.

 

 

I hope that puts things in perspective.

 

10 animations vs 100. Which do you think the animator would choose. I'd rather that animator make 90 more positions than animate transitions between the 10 we have.

[DocClox]

10 animations vs 100. Which do you think the animator would choose. I'd rather that animator make 90 more positions than animate transitions between the 10 we have.

 

You can cut that back a lot by having the actors return to a neutral position, like standing upright. Then for each sex act you need three animtions: from neutral to sex act starting point; the sex act itself; and from the sex act end position to neutral again. That gives a linear increase rather than an x^2 curve. It looks weird and oddly formal, and wouldn't work for rape at all, but it's doable.

 

That said, I tend to agree with you; it's still a lot of extra work for a very small payoff, and there are probably better uses for the animator's time.

[Seijin8]

An option I was playing with in Oblivion Lovers was to make a number of transitional animations and change to layout so that the "poof" is a lot less noticable. It just takes abit of imagination to figure what the intermediate anims would be. And it wasn't *that* hard to animate since you could take one of the existing anims and modify it halfway to another (within reason). Some new anims would definitely be needed since some of the transitions would be difficult.

[rylasasin]

10 animations vs 100. Which do you think the animator would choose. I'd rather that animator make 90 more positions than animate transitions between the 10 we have.

 

You can cut that back a lot by having the actors return to a neutral position' date=' like standing upright. Then for each sex act you need three animtions: from neutral to sex act starting point; the sex act itself; and from the sex act end position to neutral again. That gives a linear increase rather than an x^2 curve.

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I was actually going to suggest that too. Though now I have an even better idea that might save even more time yet still give the atmospheric/immersive/realistic feeling I mentioned earlier.

 

That is instead of having transitions from anim to anim or from type of position to type of position just have a "intro transition."

 

That is, an animation that shows the couple (or again other people if you get as far as threesomes and the like) going from standing into the first animation of the chosen position (Let's assume we're going by the LoversPK cats: Standing up, doggie, cowgirl, missionary, and bj) on the list instead of just "we're standing here talking *poof* now we're on the floor doggie style" (In other words, you'd only need standing up->Cowgirl, Standing up -> doggie, Standing up -> Missionary, standing up->Blowjob, Standing up->Having sex standing up, etc. OR if there's a foreplay sequence before hand (ALA Lovers with PK extender but more advanced) You'd just have to go from standing->foreplay, THEN Foreplay->Cowgirl/Doggie/Missionary/standing/BJ (if not part of the foreplay)/etc.)

 

and wouldn't work for rape at all, but it's doable.

 

Actually IMO rape shouldn't be using the same animations as normal sex in the first place, hence why I left that out of the equation. Rape animations should actually look like rape (IE with the rapist dominating the person, and the person's hands being held/tied up, (maybe even a blindfold for the forementioned dungeon/gang rape ones?) the expressions on both the rapist and rape victim should look different, maybe the victim trying to struggle and squirm, etc?

 

In the oblivion version (and even in sexout) they used the same animations and it looked... wrong. It just looked... humorous (especially when the girl was on top which is what happened quite often, at least in oblivion. In sexout it happened a lot less but it still looked weird. Though then again that might have more to do because of sexout raper's very broad and unrealistic targeting system than it did with the anims.) more like it was a joke but rape isn't SUPPOSED to look humorous. It would especially look really out of place considering Skyrims darker, more gritter mood than oblivion's.

 

Oh, and because you don't get the option (at least I think you don't) to chance positions during rape anyway, and since it's just a straight forward process (standing up->some animation like lovers struggle (maybe)->Rape, I would think this would actually work a lot better for rape.

[DocClox]

Oh' date=' and because you don't get the option (at least I think you don't) to chance positions during rape anyway, and since it's just a straight forward process (standing up->some animation like lovers struggle (maybe)->Rape, I would think this would actually work a lot better for rape.

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If you're the one being raped, you don't get any control over the process. If you're the one doing the deed then you probably ought to be able to change positions.

 

[rylasasin]

Oh' date=' and because you don't get the option (at least I think you don't) to chance positions during rape anyway, and since it's just a straight forward process (standing up->some animation like lovers struggle (maybe)->Rape, I would think this would actually work a lot better for rape.

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If you're the one being raped, you don't get any control over the process. If you're the one doing the deed then you probably ought to be able to change positions.

 

 

oh, right. I forgot about that. (probably because none of my characters in any of my games actually do any of the raping. easy to overlook then I suppose)

 

 

[HawkleyFox]

At the core of all the best sex mods for Bethesda games has basically been an animation framework (with a few other sexually oriented bells and whistles). When I considered the idea of transitions myself, I assumed the best way to do it was to have Sexrim provide a very well-thought out animation resource, query, and management system.

 

In such a system, it should be possible for an animation to register itself with Sexrim as being a graceful transition to/from other animations, then the modder can use the framework's query system to build a linear chain of animations with as many graceful transitions as possible.

 

It could be that the combination of animations the modder wants may not have graceful transitions. That shouldn't be a big deal. When the modder selects an animation that has no graceful transition from a previous animation and adds it to the animation chain, Sexrim could use a fade-out-fade-in transition to prevent the models from suddenly popping into a new pose on-screen instead.

 

But in the future, an animator may release an animations pack that does add the transition. Thanks to the framework, when the older mod queries for animations, it would automatically integrate the transition into the animation chain.

 

There would be a lot more to it than that, of course, but this is just a simple explanation of my thoughts. Whether or not it is practical is another thing entirely.

 

But, if it is possible to provide this framework, it would make it such that new animations, perhaps provided by an animations expansion pack, could be integrated into its resource pool and all mods that make use of the framework's query and animation chaining system should be able to make use of them without any modifications.

 

It would be absolutely fantastic if any Sexrim mod would be able to gain new variety in its animations by the player simply installing an animations pack.

[Vincent Draggy]

oh, just to throw in a suggestion (if no one else has already suggested this.) for those who are in the dark brother hood and have finished the faction, to be able to rape the four prisoners in the Dawnstar sanctuary. with the nudity mod, they're just laying their nude all chained up. xD

 

and also with the whole rape thing, i'm not sure if it was said, iv kinda forgotten now, but when you fight, lets say, a bandit and you lose all of your help, your character should be set to essential so you'd just be knocked down and crawling around. there should be a chance that the bandit will try to rape you or let you go on your way after recovering, because i wouldn't think that every enemy your meet is going to try you rape you. also something that would be interesting to add for like speechcraft is that you're able to seduce males/females with a chance of it failing and you wont be able to seduce that same person nearly as easily the more you do it to that person unless you can find some way to make the NPC like you and then be able to marry, or somewhere down the road to rape them and then leave them.

[Thorn14]

One idea I'd love for the inevitable new version would be demons/demonesses/daedra/succubi/whatever that maybe can cast a spell on your character that makes you willing for whatever sexual acts they want on you, even if you are at full health.

 

It could even be done through conversation too maybe?

 

I imagine that wouldn't be too hard to do...

 

Of course I have no idea how any of this works... Do we even know how hard it would be to make a sex mod?

[edeavor]

Rather than the bandit just raping you in a down mode like Angelicsnowfox said, how about when in a bandit hold and your health reaches 0 they can take you captive as a sex slave and you have to escape like when you go to jail,

i think it would go; you die, sceen fades out and then into you being raped by a bandit in a jail cell, they leave after and then you have to escape. All your stuff would be in a chest just like when you go to jail. But there would have to be anothr option tojust getting your items back and killing your way out...with jail ou can sleep, i'm thinking maybe just a dodgy cell wall that lets you escape straight out side but you dont get your items.

 

or maybe your taken as a normal prisoner and your options are make a deal to have sex with the guard and he will free you or do a jail brake

[DocClox]

when you fight' date=' lets say, a bandit and you lose all of your help, your character should be set to essential so you'd just be knocked down and crawling around. there should be a chance that the bandit will try to rape you or let you go on your way after recovering, because i wouldn't think that every enemy your meet is going to try you rape you.

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And sometimes they should probably just kill you, I guess

[Pervert_from_hell]

I bet I sound like real pervert , but what about first person skyrim sex ? It would new level on pervertness , like pov ( point of view porn ) style ...

 

 

Sexcraft skills are really good idea , opening new powers / poses , and at end ability to make children , then you can grow him up and make as your companion , but you choose what to teach him and so on , you may even control him ( as second PC player ) and upgrade him from start ( from level 1 ) , ofcouse he will not appear 1 hour after sex , depending on your childrenmaking skill - depends how fast he born and how fast he grow up , + there may be several child levels , kids in skyrim looks ~ 8 years old . So there may as minimum 3 levels : 1) newborn 2) that skyrim 8 year type 3) teenager what can already be used in fights - he is not so tall and don't look too mature , next level he looks like adult , there may be more levels of growth and if you have children growing skill ( at sexcraft tree there may several levels of this ant at every level it give you spell what make your child grow up faster , if you have 1rst level ot may take month in skyrim time for example to grow enough big to be useful in fight , as teenager he have several advantages and disadvantages , for example he may be brave and risk with his life , but have decreased Armour skill , weaker resistance or something like that what when he is adult simply disappears .

 

What about several duel types ( protect your wife ) ? for example they may be other persons who want your wife then you must do sex dual who can do more pleasure to your wife , if you loose - you lose your wife if you win you can choose what to do with that looser who wanted to take away your wife - kill , make as slave , give task ask money , favor or something like that .

[NokoKoko]

Rather than the bandit just raping you in a down mode like Angelicsnowfox said' date=' how about when in a bandit hold and your health reaches 0 they can take you captive as a sex slave and you have to escape like when you go to jail,

i think it would go; you die, sceen fades out and then into you being raped by a bandit in a jail cell, they leave after and then you have to escape. All your stuff would be in a chest just like when you go to jail. But there would have to be anothr option tojust getting your items back and killing your way out...with jail ou can sleep, i'm thinking maybe just a dodgy cell wall that lets you escape straight out side but you dont get your items.

 

or maybe your taken as a normal prisoner and your options are make a deal to have sex with the guard and he will free you or do a jail brake

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I love that idea!

 

 

[slash69]

Rather than the bandit just raping you in a down mode like Angelicsnowfox said' date=' how about when in a bandit hold and your health reaches 0 they can take you captive as a sex slave and you have to escape like when you go to jail,

i think it would go; you die, sceen fades out and then into you being raped by a bandit in a jail cell, they leave after and then you have to escape. All your stuff would be in a chest just like when you go to jail. But there would have to be anothr option tojust getting your items back and killing your way out...with jail ou can sleep, i'm thinking maybe just a dodgy cell wall that lets you escape straight out side but you dont get your items.

 

or maybe your taken as a normal prisoner and your options are make a deal to have sex with the guard and he will free you or do a jail brake

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I love the idea of game over rape!

[n3zum1]

hmmm... I was thinking again about the animals of skyrim (what's wrong with me!?) and came up with the idea that diferent animals would give you different scenarios about how sex with them would proceed and resolves.

 

let me try to explain.

 

first, different size gives different chalenges...

 

I don't think that it would be possible to have sex with a rabbit or fox if your character is female, maybe the fox will lick you but the rabbit or chicken? don't think so. on the other hand if you're male you will kill the smaller ones if you have sex with them, maybe some races have small penises and dont hurt the critter that much but an Orc would wear a rabbit like it was a condom, likewise bigger animal would do the same with you if they're the active partner.

 

In terms of game let's say your male character wants to be fucked by a horse, maybe the first thrust drains your health by 180 points and this value is fixed, that means that if you dont have at least 190 of health you will die, after this the rest of the act starts to drain your stamina and when it reaches zero you will pass out so you can ends the act before your stamina runs out. I think that this way you will have to wait for your health to replenish or use potions or magicka to have another round of wild horse sex. Speaking of the fixed value, it can vary from race to race, so let's say an Orc lady could only have 120 health points and still survive a throbbing horse dick inside her.

 

Another dangerous animal would be the bear, it's penis isn't that big for an animal his size but he have the claws! so you can also die from a sexy session with a bear or a sabercat.

 

that being said I think the 'safe zone' would be sex with dogs, wolfs(?), goats and deers in terms that you don't die or kill the critter in the process.

 

and thinking about this whole health and stamina drain in violent sex acts, this concept could works with humans too, since rape is a violent and deranged act the victim can actually die in the process, so let's say that you get raped by some bandits, like three, and each one are violating the character at the same time, and for each bandit you lose 10 health, so we have 30 less health, when they came they change roles (and holes) and it will be 30 health less foy your character, is they keep doing this or there are more bandits the character will eventually die.

 

well, that's only my thoughts for this time, maybe those kind of complexity are too hard or painfull to implement but I can't keep this idea only in my hea!

 

thanks and sorry for my bad english!

[Vincent Draggy]

One idea I'd love for the inevitable new version would be demons/demonesses/daedra/succubi/whatever that maybe can cast a spell on your character that makes you willing for whatever sexual acts they want on you' date=' even if you are at full health.

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You left out Incubi

[cobra2001]

will give whole to meaning to lover's comfort buff

[edeavor]

OHH! Werewolf sex, both with other werewolfs and raping Humans... maybe consensual sex with wolves because they become passive, someone mentioned rape as a finishing move animation... i didn't really like that but it would fit perfectly with werewolf

 

maybe this was already in the said before but i didn't want to reread it all to check...

 

EDIT: maybe vampires could fuck and suck blood at the same time as a finisher or just do that to some who was sleeping... i don't play a vampire but i'm thinking for everyone else :- )

[justdoit]

Remembering the occasional npc calling me a milk drinker while passing them gave me an idea. A secret society of 'milk' drinkers. The source for the 'milk' could be voluntary, or (using the slave guild) forced.

 

Another though was that I saw no female giants or falmor. I will put my suggestion for the falmor in the slave guild post (it fits better there). The giants would need to reproduce somehow. I thought maybe enlarging of female, or shrinking of the giants in some ritual.

[n3zum1]

Remembering the occasional npc calling me a milk drinker while passing them gave me an idea. A secret society of 'milk' drinkers. The source for the 'milk' could be voluntary' date=' or (using the slave guild) forced.

 

Another though was that I saw no female giants or falmor. I will put my suggestion for the falmor in the slave guild post (it fits better there). The giants would need to reproduce somehow. I thought maybe enlarging of female, or shrinking of the giants in some ritual.

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now that you mentioned it, yeah you're right, it's strange that they've made female draugr but not falmer or giants, for the falmer I think that just putting some sagging tits on a male model will do the trick and for the giantess some tweaking on the default human body like increasing the feet and hands would work for me, what you guys think?