The Forbidden Tome

[Mister X]

On 6/2/2025 at 10:15 PM, Seph64 said:

Got to this point, and again, Zenidius is not there. What log file should I look for?

 

Best would be the Papyrus log, so I can see if there are any problems with moving Zenidius. Or maybe put "sqv tftForbiddenTomeQuest" into the console and tell me the current quest stage of yours, to see if that updated properly.

 

On 6/1/2025 at 7:22 PM, Wild Trout said:

Hey ! Thanks a lot for the the awesome mod !

 

I have a small issue : as soon as the quest starts (after speaking with Urag), there is a bug with any station. As soon as I interract with an object such as : bed, smithing table, alchemy, enchanting table, etc... , the character instantly leaves the station. It is a known bug for when characters are stuck in animations/events from a mod.

 

As there is no MCM menu to reset animations, I'm kinda stuck, and I'm starting to think that I'll try to bypass the start with a setstage, command + add the items manually, but I'm afraid of breaking more stuff.

 

My setup :

• DD NG
• Sexlab P+
• Pandora 

What I've tried :

• testing with both 0.6.0 and 0.6.1
• tai -> tcl in console before interracting with anything
• rerun pandora
• recycleactor in console
• reset animations on most other mods
• disable->enable
• player.dispelalleffects

Any idea of how I could fix this issue ?  I don't see any forbiddentome related things in the papyrus logs

 

Same with you, what route did you go when talking with Urag? If you were neutral or naughty he normally should lock you into a pillory. If that didn't happen, that may be an explanation. But for that, I need a Papyrus log, too, to look for any errors. Or did it happen? Have you struggled out of it sucessfully?

 

22 hours ago, kinkeag said:

Found the key, quest hasn't updated and I can't use it to unlock my restraints? Any help would be appreciated thank you.

 

What key did you find? The one you search for is named "Urag's Device Key" and only that one will do.

[Seph64]

Unfortunately, I don't seem to have a papyrus log, so I guess when I do that quest again, I'll have to use that console command. 

[kinkeag]

On 6/7/2025 at 8:08 AM, Mister X said:

 

Best would be the Papyrus log, so I can see if there are any problems with moving Zenidius. Or maybe put "sqv tftForbiddenTomeQuest" into the console and tell me the current quest stage of yours, to see if that updated properly.

 

 

Same with you, what route did you go when talking with Urag? If you were neutral or naughty he normally should lock you into a pillory. If that didn't happen, that may be an explanation. But for that, I need a Papyrus log, too, to look for any errors. Or did it happen? Have you struggled out of it sucessfully?

 

 

What key did you find? The one you search for is named "Urag's Device Key" and only that one will do.

Thank you, it worked in the end. i was being a dumb ass "Urag's key" only unlocks Urag's restraints, like the collar and such.

 

Fun little mod! Loved it!

[Wild Trout]

On 6/7/2025 at 9:08 AM, Mister X said:

Same with you, what route did you go when talking with Urag? If you were neutral or naughty he normally should lock you into a pillory. If that didn't happen, that may be an explanation. But for that, I need a Papyrus log, too, to look for any errors. Or did it happen? Have you struggled out of it sucessfully?

I've tried all different ways : All the neutral and all the naughty answers, and all yield the same results, sadly 
I don't have any animation/pillory or anything happening after the dialogue, here is the papyrus log related to the event.
I've made sure to run pandora with multiple animation packs, so I have no clue where it might come from  
 

[06/15/2025 - 02:38:16PM] [Forbidden Tome] Registering events
[06/15/2025 - 02:38:16PM] Error: Cannot call Stop() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[tftForbiddenTomeQuest (96005900)].tftForbiddenTomeQuestStagesScript.Fragment_6() - "eqvahqsnoibskswmwbtatatmzaxjnjswkfiqc" Line 359
[06/15/2025 - 02:38:16PM] Error: Cannot call Enable() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[tftForbiddenTomeQuest (96005900)].tftForbiddenTomeQuestStagesScript.Fragment_6() - "eqvahqsnoibskswmwbtatatmzaxjnjswkfiqc" Line 360
[06/15/2025 - 02:38:16PM] Error: Cannot call GetReference() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[tftForbiddenTomeQuest (96005900)].tftForbiddenTomeQuestStagesScript.Fragment_6() - "eqvahqsnoibskswmwbtatatmzaxjnjswkfiqc" Line 363
[06/15/2025 - 02:38:16PM] Error: Cannot call Is3DLoaded() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[tftForbiddenTomeQuest (96005900)].tftForbiddenTomeQuestStagesScript.Fragment_6() - "eqvahqsnoibskswmwbtatatmzaxjnjswkfiqc" Line 363
[06/15/2025 - 02:38:16PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp21"
stack:
	[tftForbiddenTomeQuest (96005900)].tftForbiddenTomeQuestStagesScript.Fragment_6() - "eqvahqsnoibskswmwbtatatmzaxjnjswkfiqc" Line 363
[06/15/2025 - 02:38:16PM] Error: Cannot call GetReference() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[tftForbiddenTomeQuest (96005900)].tftForbiddenTomeQuestStagesScript.Fragment_6() - "eqvahqsnoibskswmwbtatatmzaxjnjswkfiqc" Line 364
[06/15/2025 - 02:38:16PM] Error: Cannot call GetReference() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[tftForbiddenTomeQuest (96005900)].tftForbiddenTomeQuestStagesScript.Fragment_6() - "eqvahqsnoibskswmwbtatatmzaxjnjswkfiqc" Line 364
[06/15/2025 - 02:38:16PM] Error: Cannot call MoveTo() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[tftForbiddenTomeQuest (96005900)].tftForbiddenTomeQuestStagesScript.Fragment_6() - "eqvahqsnoibskswmwbtatatmzaxjnjswkfiqc" Line 364
[06/15/2025 - 02:39:33PM] [Forbidden Tome] Sending punishment event
[06/15/2025 - 02:39:33PM] Error: Cannot call Stop() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[tftForbiddenTomeQuest (96005900)].tftForbiddenTomeQuestStagesScript.Fragment_19() - "eqvahqsnoibskswmwbtatatmzaxjnjswkfiqc" Line 324
[06/15/2025 - 02:39:33PM] [Forbidden Tome] Starting punishment binding
[06/15/2025 - 02:39:33PM] [binding]: OnDhlpSuspend sender: The Forbidden Tome id: -1778362112
[06/15/2025 - 02:39:35PM] [Forbidden Tome] Current Urag mood: 1 - Current Scene: [tftPunishSceneScript < (9600AA13)>]
[06/15/2025 - 02:39:35PM] [Forbidden Tome] Player not valid or Urag in good mood, skipping contraption sex
[06/15/2025 - 02:39:35PM] Error: Static function SetAnimGroupEX not found on object Nemesis_AA. Aborting call and returning None
[06/15/2025 - 02:39:35PM] [Zad-NG]: OnEquipped(Lylianna: Urag's Chastity Belt)
[06/15/2025 - 02:39:35PM] [Zad-NG]: Checking for active unequip operation for [Keyword <zad_DeviousBelt (0E003330)>]
[06/15/2025 - 02:39:35PM] [Zad-NG]: No active unequip operation running for [Keyword <zad_DeviousBelt (0E003330)>]. Proceeding
[06/15/2025 - 02:39:36PM] [binding]: OnDhlpResume sender: The Forbidden Tome id: -1778362112

 

[Miauzi]

I'm currently testing the mod on my new "1.6.1170" installation.

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So what do I find at the orc Urag's "desk"?

It's basically the same thing that the current DD "legally" places -> a note and a key... and I can open a bookcase with it.

Only this time it's -> illegal.

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The animation with the "running back" from the bookcase to Urak works - as does the "locking" in the KG and the transfer of the quest info.

I know from the forum posts that there were some problems here - but not for me.

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I have a note here, though -> before I started this quest, I had already been promoted to Archmage, and the old orc also calls me "Archmage."

If possible, please consider in a later version whether the player is still a "student" or already the "boss."

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As expected, there were a few potential targets for "Zenidius" listed - I found him in "Mzinchaleft" - the "Special Oil" was quite close in a "Random" chest... I was afraid I'd have to fight my way through the entire city.

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The next mission takes me to Raldbthar and this is where the problems begin:

I had completed this ruin shortly before starting "The Forbitten Tome" -> the shard for the special forge is at the end.

So, I walked through the location again, virtually without enemy contact, and looked at the containers I'd already looted -> no luck.

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Okay - there is a way to set a "marker"... but it completely fails -> no matter what combination I try with the "Set" command - "unknown variable"

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So I looked at all the "Global Variables"... and tried setting the marker to Zenidius -> that worked immediately.

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So I don't have the correct spelling for the "Special Dwemer Gyro"... and here I'm asking for help.

"Set tftEasySpezialDwemerGyro to 1" doesn't work... and please don't ask me how many variations I've tried!

 

edit:

I searched for chests again at the beginning of the ruins of Raldbthar... and actually found one I had overlooked.

 

So back to Zenidius - he tasks me with finding a Centurion Gyro... in the Dwemer city beneath Markath, of course.

 

I had already completed this quest before this one... and here, even after two hours of searching, I FOUND NOTHING.

So, I have no idea how to use the "mechanics" for placing the quest object.

By the way - in addition to the actual Dwemer city, there's also the tunnel - into which the player is sent in the quest by "Calcelmo" (eliminating the spider).

 

Here, I then preceded the quest with a set stage - just to test out how it continues (content-wise).

So, I traveled to Zenidius with the "fake gyro" - picked up the book, and continued on to the orc Urak.

 

He sends me (tied up and blinded, of course) to search for "his" key in the "students' dormitory."

I really searched every chest there... even with TCL and TGM in stealth mode (including the "merchant" chests) -> NOTHING!

 

Is that really the point of this quest, to "break into" the students' and teachers' chests?

 

From here on, I'm out... I uninstalled the mod... I don't understand the point of the whole "enterprise"!

Edited July 6, 2025 by Miauzi

[Mister X]

1 hour ago, Miauzi said:

So I don't have the correct spelling for the "Special Dwemer Gyro"... and here I'm asking for help.

"Set tftEasySpezialDwemerGyro to 1" doesn't work... and please don't ask me how many variations I've tried!

 

There's a FAQ which tells you the solution ^^ "set tftEasyObjects to 1" (without quotes). Literally this, no alteration for any specifc object needed. Once you found it, you can set it back to 0 (zero) with the same command "set tftEasyObjects to 0" if you want to search the third object again.

 

The item should be in the ruin, even though you've emptied it before, it gets placed once the quest starts.

 

 

1 hour ago, Miauzi said:

I have a note here, though -> before I started this quest, I had already been promoted to Archmage, and the old orc also calls me "Archmage."

If possible, please consider in a later version whether the player is still a "student" or already the "boss."

 

Thanks for your suggestion! Yeah, the original source by Min were at least two quest lines that were very loosely connected by the Mage's Guild, so the inspiration thought of you advancing those quests in parallel to the Mage quest line.

Additionally, I didn't really think about somebody doing that quest "that late". But I can try to think of some fun twist if you're already Archmage ^^

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Miauzi said:

I'm currently testing the mod on my new "1.6.1170" installation.

 

Glad to hear that it went smooth for you! Hope you liked it so far  

Edited July 6, 2025 by Mister X

[Miauzi]

1 hour ago, Mister X said:

 

Es gibt eine FAQ, die die Lösung erklärt: ^^ „ Setze tftEasyObjects auf 1 “ “ wieder auf 0 (Null) setzen, (ohne Anführungszeichen). Genau das, keine Änderung an einem bestimmten Objekt erforderlich. Sobald du es gefunden hast, kannst du es mit demselben Befehl „ Setze tftEasyObjects auf 0 wenn du das dritte Objekt erneut suchen möchtest.

 

 

The problem is -> MY FAULT... in my native German, "Objekt" is spelled "K" instead of "C" - so I always misspelled it.

Luckily, I read your post before deleting the mod... and "suspended" the deletion.

 

I started Skyrim and activated a save game - where I'm in the Dwemer city with my "party."

Now I applied the set command, and I had the required quest pointer... in the armory.

 

And now comes a problem that probably very few users of your mod will have -> another mod "overwrites" the target chest in the armory... it's covered by a HUGE armor chest.

This mod is the special racial mod for the Dwemer -> https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/22499

It's in my standard loadout.

 

Yes - now I have the gyro and am heading back to "Zeni"... let's see if the set command helps me with the key too?

 

edit:

This time, I must have chosen a more "submissive" dialogue option for Urak – at least he didn't put me in the bondage dress... or unlock the collar.

😉

 

Okay – it's a very old quest that was originally included in DD.

Now I also understand the "spirit" behind mods like CD or DCL... and none of them correspond to my own understanding of BDSM – the bondage dress and the dormitory are too "intrusive" for me personally... especially not suitable for a character who's already an archmage!

 

Of course, I accept (and understand) that other people don't share my view of BDSM... and that doesn't stop me from explicitly congratulating the mod author on his work.

 

💖

 

 

Edited July 6, 2025 by Miauzi

[Mister X]

1 hour ago, Miauzi said:

The problem is -> MY FAULT... in my native German, "Objekt" is spelled "K" instead of "C" - so I always misspelled it.

 

Oh, ich kenne die Übersetzung und solche Probleme nur zu gut... das kann jedem passieren

 

1 hour ago, Miauzi said:

And now comes a problem that probably very few users of your mod will have -> another mod "overwrites" the target chest in the armory... it's covered by a HUGE armor chest.

This mod is the special racial mod for the Dwemer -> https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/22499

It's in my standard loadout.

 

Well, that's unlucky, but nothing I can account for. The mod looks for special marked chests within the dungeon, it doesn't really choose a random one (if I find out how to achieve this with native quest alias conditions, that definitely will change ^^). So probably, this might happen again in another run.

 

 

1 hour ago, Miauzi said:

Okay – it's a very old quest that was originally included in DD.

Now I also understand the "spirit" behind mods like CD or DCL... and none of them correspond to my own understanding of BDSM – the bondage dress and the dormitory are too "intrusive" for me personally... especially not suitable for a character who's already an archmage!

 

Well, I'm kinky myself and one thing I learned: BDSM is as diverse as human beings. Every single inidivdual has their own understanding of it.

The big problem in this case is to tie together gameplay mechanics with those different BDSM styles. And the first question for this: do you want to target the player or their avatar? With the avatar you have many possibilities and can try to tackle everything BDSM has to offer, but it's more like a show or porn while playing. Most of the defeat mods go this route, you watch you avatar bearing the consequences for the defeat. Most prominent, rape: DS by forcing the avatar under the will of the attacker, bondage often included and SM arguably by painful unconsensual sex or sometimes whipping. All big aspects covered.

 

Video games mostly want to catch their players though, as do mods like CD, DCL or this one. So, what options do you have to get BDSM plays into video games? BD (bondage) is not possible (yet?). How would I be able to make my mod tie up some random player in front of their PC? SM, similar problem. Only way would be E-Stim by a connected device and how many people have this?

Leaves us with DS. Those are often tedious, exertive and/or boring tasks in RL, too (if it's not long-term), but with some satisfaction in the end. That's definitely feasible in gameplay. A popular video game example for this case, imho, would be Souls Like games. Very hard boss fights with exhaustive repetitions but the satisfaction of defeating said boss in the end.

This one is similar: it's tedious to run around and search the stuff, but you should get the satisfaction in the end to hand over the book at last. And if you choose the bratty answers, most brats want to receive some punishments: the key search.

 

So, the thing with CD, DCL, my mod and others is less a narrow understanding of BDSM or something. It's more the few possibilities to target the real person with your BDSM play.

 

If you have good ideas how to widen up that spectrum, I'd be more than grateful to hear them! Sadly, I myself personally am mostly into bondage and sensory plays, not so much into DS, so I'm not good at finding fun new ways to carry this by gameplay  

[Miauzi]

Vor 8 Minuten sagte Mister X:

Nun, das ist Pech, aber ich kann es mir nicht erklären. Der Mod sucht im Dungeon nach speziell markierten Truhen, er wählt nicht zufällig eine aus (wenn ich herausfinde, wie man das mit nativen Quest-Alias-Bedingungen erreichen kann, wird sich das definitiv ändern ^^). Also könnte das wahrscheinlich bei einem weiteren Durchlauf wieder passieren.

 

Nun, ich bin selbst kinky und eines habe ich gelernt: BDSM ist so vielfältig wie die Menschen. Jeder Einzelne hat sein eigenes Verständnis davon.

Das große Problem besteht in diesem Fall darin, die Spielmechanik mit den verschiedenen BDSM-Stilen zu verknüpfen. Und die erste Frage dazu: Will man den Spieler oder seinen Avatar angreifen? Mit dem Avatar hat man viele Möglichkeiten und kann alles ausprobieren, was BDSM zu bieten hat, aber beim Spielen gleicht es eher einer Show oder einem Porno. Die meisten Niederlage-Mods gehen diesen Weg: Man sieht seinem Avatar dabei zu, wie er die Konsequenzen der Niederlage trägt. Am bekanntesten ist Vergewaltigung: DS, indem der Avatar dem Willen des Angreifers unterworfen wird, Bondage oft inklusive und SM wohl durch schmerzhaften, einvernehmlichen Sex oder manchmal Auspeitschen. Alle wichtigen Aspekte werden abgedeckt.

 

Videospiele wollen ihre Spieler aber meist fesseln, ebenso wie Mods wie CD, DCL oder diese hier. Welche Möglichkeiten gibt es also, BDSM-Spiele in Videospiele zu integrieren? BD (Bondage) ist (noch?) nicht möglich. Wie könnte ich meinen Mod dazu bringen, einen beliebigen Spieler vor seinem PC zu fesseln? SM, ähnliches Problem. Die einzige Möglichkeit wäre E-Stimulation über ein angeschlossenes Gerät, und wie viele Leute haben so etwas?

Bleibt nur noch DS. Das sind oft auch im echten Leben mühsame, anstrengende und/oder langweilige Aufgaben (wenn man nicht langfristig spielt), aber am Ende mit einer gewissen Befriedigung. Das ist im Gameplay definitiv machbar. Ein beliebtes Videospielbeispiel hierfür wären meiner Meinung nach Souls-like-Spiele. Sehr harte Bosskämpfe mit erschöpfenden Wiederholungen, aber die Befriedigung, den jeweiligen Boss am Ende besiegt zu haben.

Ähnlich verhält es sich: Es ist zwar mühsam, herumzulaufen und alles zu durchsuchen, aber man sollte am Ende die Genugtuung haben, das Buch endlich abgeben zu können. Und wenn man die frechen Antworten wählt, wollen die meisten Gören eine Strafe: die Schlüsselsuche.

 

Also, bei CD, DCL, meinem Mod und anderen geht es weniger um ein enges Verständnis von BDSM oder so etwas. Es geht eher um die wenigen Möglichkeiten, die reale Person mit seinem BDSM-Spiel anzusprechen.

 

Wenn ihr gute Ideen habt, wie man dieses Spektrum erweitern kann, würde ich mich sehr freuen, davon zu hören! Leider interessiere ich mich persönlich hauptsächlich für Bondage und sensorische Spiele, nicht so sehr für DS, daher bin ich nicht gut darin, neue, unterhaltsame Wege zu finden, dies im Gameplay umzusetzen.  

 

BOTH chests exist – the smaller one from the vanilla game containing the quest item is almost completely covered by the 3D model of the armor chest from "my" Dwemer mod... so I had to "walk into" the larger chest via TCL to be able to interact with the smaller one.

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The contents of both chests do NOT interact with each other – so no problem for your mod in this regard... You don't need to change anything.

 

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Regarding BDSM in computer games... if I have virtually no chance in-game -> my character has no opportunity to make a decision (see DCL's quest chain with the prisoner in Helgen)... that's not a good solution for me.

I assume you're familiar with Laura's mod (Laura's Bondage Shop)... there's not such massive coercion here.

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I played through your mod primarily because I'm working on a quest suggestion for Laura's mod:

- The current mod includes a longer voluntary confinement in her shop - you essentially "advertise" her shop and are paid.

- The multi-stage main quest is complete.

- The player's advertising was successful - now the first customers are coming into the store -> the shop is practically being presented in the shop - the player is the model (Laura is probably working on this right now).

- And now the previous supplier of the shop is out of commission -> the player suggests making it themselves or getting a construction manual -> the blueprints are in Urak's library (which would be my idea).

Will Urak release the plans immediately (current DD mod) or will there be expeditions to Dwemer ruins... and how can these be designed in the spirit of Laura's mod?

 

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I started writing a blog story for Skyrim a while ago – in which, among other things, I try to express my understanding of BDSM... Laura's mod is quite suitable for this.

If you're interested, just check out the links below the text.

 

[johnson_joe]

I'm sorry, I think this mod is somewhat seriously bugged.  It's a good idea and everything, but some things have to be resolved. 

 

Bug Nr.1 

After Urag does his initial spell, the workbench at the smithing stone don't work any more.  It the workbench starts up, the menu starts up, but then the menu disappears again after one second or so.  Maybe with quick clicking, you could get something in, but doing that for the rest of the game, surely not.  The same happens with the smithing stone to sharpen weapons.  Basically this is the same issue that user Wild Trout has reported above.
This bug also happened once before, and may be inherited from DD, as a contraption-trap once triggered the same bug, but it was slightly worse even, since every time when using e.g. forge or smithing stone, the other animation from the contraption would play again.  Made the game unplayable and had to go back a lot of saves, because you don't notice it at first in the dungeon, and only later you find out something is permanently damaged in your game now.

 

The reason seems to be:  The game still thinks there is a running scene,  tftPunishSceneScript, (see third screenshot).  And that seems to be breaking all the workbench, smithing stone, alchemy tables etc.  And this is getting saved with the savegame and therefore permanently damages the game after that.

 

Bug Nr.2

Then I find Zenidius.  I bring the Special Oil no problem.  Then he wants the Special Dwemer Gyro.  But its not in the entire ruin where Zenidius is.  Even though he says "My research bla bla bla, item must be in this ruin."  But it's not.  Its somewhere totally different right aross the entire map of Skyrim in a different ruin. 
So, okay, I find the stuff and bring it back from the other ruin.  But the Script doesn't recognize the Gyro, see screenshots below.  Sadly, the only option is "Sadly, bla bla bla". 

 

Edited August 23, 2025 by johnson_joe
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[Guest]

Hi there!

Awesome quest, by the way.

Yet I'm having an issue for finishing the quest. Just found the Urags device keys in a barrel at the dormitory.

But quest doesn't advance. Should it?.

I tried to open the devices with the keys, but items are not removed. (Im ussing Unforgiving Devices, unlock minigame goes well, locks reads as unlocked but item is not removed).

 

Also walked back to Urag but there is nothing new in there.

Im sending image of the quest status just in case it helps.

 

¡Thanks again for the mod! 

 

 

[Mister X]

On 8/22/2025 at 10:05 PM, johnson_joe said:

I'm sorry, I think this mod is somewhat seriously bugged.  It's a good idea and everything, but some things have to be resolved. 

 

Bug Nr.1 

After Urag does his initial spell, the workbench at the smithing stone don't work any more.  It the workbench starts up, the menu starts up, but then the menu disappears again after one second or so.  Maybe with quick clicking, you could get something in, but doing that for the rest of the game, surely not.  The same happens with the smithing stone to sharpen weapons.  Basically this is the same issue that user Wild Trout has reported above.
This bug also happened once before, and may be inherited from DD, as a contraption-trap once triggered the same bug, but it was slightly worse even, since every time when using e.g. forge or smithing stone, the other animation from the contraption would play again.  Made the game unplayable and had to go back a lot of saves, because you don't notice it at first in the dungeon, and only later you find out something is permanently damaged in your game now.

 

The reason seems to be:  The game still thinks there is a running scene,  tftPunishSceneScript, (see third screenshot).  And that seems to be breaking all the workbench, smithing stone, alchemy tables etc.  And this is getting saved with the savegame and therefore permanently damages the game after that.

 

Bug Nr.2

Then I find Zenidius.  I bring the Special Oil no problem.  Then he wants the Special Dwemer Gyro.  But its not in the entire ruin where Zenidius is.  Even though he says "My research bla bla bla, item must be in this ruin."  But it's not.  Its somewhere totally different right aross the entire map of Skyrim in a different ruin. 
So, okay, I find the stuff and bring it back from the other ruin.  But the Script doesn't recognize the Gyro, see screenshots below.  Sadly, the only option is "Sadly, bla bla bla". 

 

 

Yeah, this mod was my first experiment of doing other stuff with the CK instead of just glueing scripts into the game, so there may be multiple bugs. That's why it's still Beta.

 

On the other hand, you are the first to report those bugs specifically, and I don't know what else you did. For everybody else so far the dialogue seemed to work flawlessly once they got to Zenidius with the requested item.

 

For the blocked workbenches, I don't know what's causing this. Probably, as you mentioned, the contraption, but I don't do much with that except calling the DDc API script.

I can look into it, but maybe some script didn't advance properly on your end. Do you have a script log or something?

 

 

54 minutes ago, try again. said:

Hi there!

Awesome quest, by the way.

Yet I'm having an issue for finishing the quest. Just found the Urags device keys in a barrel at the dormitory.

But quest doesn't advance. Should it?.

I tried to open the devices with the keys, but items are not removed. (Im ussing Unforgiving Devices, unlock minigame goes well, locks reads as unlocked but item is not removed).

 

Also walked back to Urag but there is nothing new in there.

Im sending image of the quest status just in case it helps.

 

¡Thanks again for the mod! 

 

 

 

Thanks, happy you liked it, but the credit for the idea doesn't belong to me but Min, I just rewrote and rearranged some stuff.

 

Urag's key works for Urag's devices, but only those. Once you've unlocked all quest items the quest should finish, regardless if you have other devices equipped. Probably I should make this more clear somewhere.

Edited August 24, 2025 by Mister X

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, Mister X said:

 

Yeah, this mod was my first experiment of doing other stuff with the CK instead of just glueing scripts into the game, so there may be multiple bugs. That's why it's still Beta.

 

On the other hand, you are the first to report those bugs specifically, and I don't know what else you did. For everybody else so far the dialogue seemed to work flawlessly once they got to Zenidius with the requested item.

 

For the blocked workbenches, I don't know what's causing this. Probably, as you mentioned, the contraption, but I don't do much with that except calling the DDc API script.

I can look into it, but maybe some script didn't advance properly on your end. Do you have a script log or something?

 

 

 

Thanks, happy you liked it, but the credit for the idea doesn't belong to me but Min, I just rewrote and rearranged some stuff.

 

Urag's key works for Urag's devices, but only those. Once you've unlocked all quest items the quest should finish, regardless if you have other devices equipped. Probably I should make this more clear somewhere.

Hi again!

 

Thanks for the quick answer.

 

Unlocking the devices doesn't work (using UD).

 

It is because UD is expecting an unlocking devices event that never happens. (It says so in the console).

 

I believe this has to do with DD NG (last version of DD).

 

Does this makes sense?

[Mister X]

19 minutes ago, try again. said:

Hi again!

 

Thanks for the quick answer.

 

Unlocking the devices doesn't work (using UD).

 

It is because UD is expecting an unlocking devices event that never happens. (It says so in the console).

 

I believe this has to do with DD NG (last version of DD).

 

Does this makes sense?

 

I'm not sure. The three items in question are Urag's Collar, Urag's Belt and Zen's Belt. Those are the only three quest items, the only three items that can be unlocked with Urags Key and they all carry their respective DD item script, so in normal circumstances they should behave like any other quest device as well. Meaning, once they get unlocked, they should send their events

[Guest]

12 minutes ago, Mister X said:

 

I'm not sure. The three items in question are Urag's Collar, Urag's Belt and Zen's Belt. Those are the only three quest items, the only three items that can be unlocked with Urags Key and they all carry their respective DD item script, so in normal circumstances they should behave like any other quest device as well. Meaning, once they get unlocked, they should send their events

Just tried again.

 

(Just in casr).

 

I'm receiving a "UD, !ERROR!, T=177.898010: No remove device event received. Skipping.

 

I'm also not sure UD is recognising Urags and Zendious devices as quest items, because it allows you to unlock them ussi g lock picks (never tried to do it since seemed like non-intended).

 

Hope this helps!

[Mister X]

4 minutes ago, try again. said:

Just tried again.

 

(Just in casr).

 

I'm receiving a "UD, !ERROR!, T=177.898010: No remove device event received. Skipping.

 

I'm also not sure UD is recognising Urags and Zendious devices as quest items, because it allows you to unlock them ussi g lock picks (never tried to do it since seemed like non-intended).

 

Hope this helps!

 

Well, this then seems to be an issue with UD? Did you use its Synthesis Patcher to create a patch for Forbidden Tome?

[Guest]

14 minutes ago, Mister X said:

 

Well, this then seems to be an issue with UD? Did you use its Synthesis Patcher to create a patch for Forbidden Tome?

Yes.

 

Synthesis run.

 

Seems that works since I can interact with them.

 

That's why I feel it might not be recognised as quest items, since (as far as I know) quest it3ms are not patched by synthesis.

 

(They need specific patches as Laura's ones).

[Guest]

11 hours ago, Mister X said:

 

Well, this then seems to be an issue with UD? Did you use its Synthesis Patcher to create a patch for Forbidden Tome?

Hey!

I believe we solved it. I removed the forbidden tome from the list of mods to patch with synthesis.

It doesnt work with the save I had before ending the quest, but seems it does if I reload a save before I started the quest. Will keep you updated.

In the meantime: I have a sugestion for you.

It onvolves a change from original mod. But I'm wondering if Zen could be investigating the dwarven quirass 

When you find Zen at the end of the quest he might ask you for a last job of testing his device.

I mean... he probably had something in mind for the special oil, gyro and... the other.
 

[Mister X]

13 hours ago, try again. said:

Hey!

I believe we solved it. I removed the forbidden tome from the list of mods to patch with synthesis.

It doesnt work with the save I had before ending the quest, but seems it does if I reload a save before I started the quest. Will keep you updated.

In the meantime: I have a sugestion for you.

It onvolves a change from original mod. But I'm wondering if Zen could be investigating the dwarven quirass 

When you find Zen at the end of the quest he might ask you for a last job of testing his device.

I mean... he probably had something in mind for the special oil, gyro and... the other.
 

 

I knew of this "armour", but I didn't think of combning it with this mod ^^ Might have a look into it, will only happen though if I get it to work as an optional add-on.

It's an interesting idea though, the original mod had some follow-up stuff as well. Maybe I will dive into that, too, on that occasion.

 

For now, I mainly want to get the base mod stable and working. Those changes for follow-ups might be save breaking either way...

But it might happen eventually, that this mod offers several kinky Mage College errands to run. Eventually, maybe...

[lcewolf]

Honestly I give up... I have look everywhere in every body,chest for the special Gyro for 4 hours. Found 5 normal Gyro.

Made the dungeon from side to side and never found the special gyro. The item cannot be spam or found. 

Even look with TCL cccode. Disable every Chest and re-enable it.

 

No marker... At less you could put it on the guardian Centurion or made a possibility to spam it with CC code.

 

I spam the book and see Urag for at less complete the quest.

 

Sorry but the quest need some work and marker. 

Edited October 14, 2025 by lcewolf

[Mister X]

On 10/14/2025 at 7:15 AM, lcewolf said:

Honestly I give up... I have look everywhere in every body,chest for the special Gyro for 4 hours. Found 5 normal Gyro.

Made the dungeon from side to side and never found the special gyro. The item cannot be spam or found. 

Even look with TCL cccode. Disable every Chest and re-enable it.

 

No marker... At less you could put it on the guardian Centurion or made a possibility to spam it with CC code.

 

I spam the book and see Urag for at less complete the quest.

 

Sorry but the quest need some work and marker. 

 

Hey, that's really strange. The quest shouldn't even be able to start if the gyro isn't there as it's part of the required aliases.

 

Did you read the mod description? Did you use set tftEasyObjects to 1 to enable the markers for the items as told in the "FAQ and Help" spoiler?

[Taki17]

Hi-hi!

There's an issue with the punishment scene in the intro when the player pisses off Urag. A pillory scene is supposed to happen here, however it does not, it skips right to the chastity belt equip as fallback. Log says the following:

Spoiler

[10/20/2025 - 02:53:09PM] ERROR: Cannot call Stop() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[tftForbiddenTomeQuest (1E005900)].tftForbiddenTomeQuestStagesScript.Fragment_6() - "eqvahqsnoibskswmwbtatatmzaxjnjswkfiqc" Line 359
[10/20/2025 - 02:53:09PM] ERROR: Cannot call Enable() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[tftForbiddenTomeQuest (1E005900)].tftForbiddenTomeQuestStagesScript.Fragment_6() - "eqvahqsnoibskswmwbtatatmzaxjnjswkfiqc" Line 360
[10/20/2025 - 02:53:09PM] ERROR: Cannot call GetReference() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[tftForbiddenTomeQuest (1E005900)].tftForbiddenTomeQuestStagesScript.Fragment_6() - "eqvahqsnoibskswmwbtatatmzaxjnjswkfiqc" Line 363
[10/20/2025 - 02:53:09PM] ERROR: Cannot call Is3DLoaded() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[tftForbiddenTomeQuest (1E005900)].tftForbiddenTomeQuestStagesScript.Fragment_6() - "eqvahqsnoibskswmwbtatatmzaxjnjswkfiqc" Line 363
[10/20/2025 - 02:53:09PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp21"
stack:
	[tftForbiddenTomeQuest (1E005900)].tftForbiddenTomeQuestStagesScript.Fragment_6() - "eqvahqsnoibskswmwbtatatmzaxjnjswkfiqc" Line 363
[10/20/2025 - 02:53:09PM] ERROR: Cannot call GetReference() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[tftForbiddenTomeQuest (1E005900)].tftForbiddenTomeQuestStagesScript.Fragment_6() - "eqvahqsnoibskswmwbtatatmzaxjnjswkfiqc" Line 364
[10/20/2025 - 02:53:09PM] ERROR: Cannot call GetReference() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[tftForbiddenTomeQuest (1E005900)].tftForbiddenTomeQuestStagesScript.Fragment_6() - "eqvahqsnoibskswmwbtatatmzaxjnjswkfiqc" Line 364
[10/20/2025 - 02:53:09PM] ERROR: Cannot call MoveTo() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[tftForbiddenTomeQuest (1E005900)].tftForbiddenTomeQuestStagesScript.Fragment_6() - "eqvahqsnoibskswmwbtatatmzaxjnjswkfiqc" Line 364
[10/20/2025 - 02:54:32PM] [Forbidden Tome] Sending punishment event
[10/20/2025 - 02:54:32PM] ERROR: Cannot call Stop() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[tftForbiddenTomeQuest (1E005900)].tftForbiddenTomeQuestStagesScript.Fragment_19() - "eqvahqsnoibskswmwbtatatmzaxjnjswkfiqc" Line 324
[10/20/2025 - 02:54:32PM] [Forbidden Tome] Starting punishment binding
[10/20/2025 - 02:54:34PM] [Forbidden Tome] Current Urag mood: -3 - Current Scene: [tftPunishSceneScript < (1E00AA13)>]
[10/20/2025 - 02:54:34PM] [Forbidden Tome] Player not valid or Urag in good mood, skipping contraption sex

Issue is that the "tftPunishScene" property on the quest stage 15 script fragment is not filled, it needs to be set to the scene of the same name. Without this, the punishment scene will hang and prevent DD contraption usage and sex scenes for the player!

[Mister X]

On 10/20/2025 at 3:26 PM, Taki17 said:

Hi-hi!

There's an issue with the punishment scene in the intro when the player pisses off Urag. A pillory scene is supposed to happen here, however it does not, it skips right to the chastity belt equip as fallback. Log says the following:

  Hide contents

[10/20/2025 - 02:53:09PM] ERROR: Cannot call Stop() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[tftForbiddenTomeQuest (1E005900)].tftForbiddenTomeQuestStagesScript.Fragment_6() - "eqvahqsnoibskswmwbtatatmzaxjnjswkfiqc" Line 359
[10/20/2025 - 02:53:09PM] ERROR: Cannot call Enable() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[tftForbiddenTomeQuest (1E005900)].tftForbiddenTomeQuestStagesScript.Fragment_6() - "eqvahqsnoibskswmwbtatatmzaxjnjswkfiqc" Line 360
[10/20/2025 - 02:53:09PM] ERROR: Cannot call GetReference() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[tftForbiddenTomeQuest (1E005900)].tftForbiddenTomeQuestStagesScript.Fragment_6() - "eqvahqsnoibskswmwbtatatmzaxjnjswkfiqc" Line 363
[10/20/2025 - 02:53:09PM] ERROR: Cannot call Is3DLoaded() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[tftForbiddenTomeQuest (1E005900)].tftForbiddenTomeQuestStagesScript.Fragment_6() - "eqvahqsnoibskswmwbtatatmzaxjnjswkfiqc" Line 363
[10/20/2025 - 02:53:09PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp21"
stack:
	[tftForbiddenTomeQuest (1E005900)].tftForbiddenTomeQuestStagesScript.Fragment_6() - "eqvahqsnoibskswmwbtatatmzaxjnjswkfiqc" Line 363
[10/20/2025 - 02:53:09PM] ERROR: Cannot call GetReference() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[tftForbiddenTomeQuest (1E005900)].tftForbiddenTomeQuestStagesScript.Fragment_6() - "eqvahqsnoibskswmwbtatatmzaxjnjswkfiqc" Line 364
[10/20/2025 - 02:53:09PM] ERROR: Cannot call GetReference() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[tftForbiddenTomeQuest (1E005900)].tftForbiddenTomeQuestStagesScript.Fragment_6() - "eqvahqsnoibskswmwbtatatmzaxjnjswkfiqc" Line 364
[10/20/2025 - 02:53:09PM] ERROR: Cannot call MoveTo() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[tftForbiddenTomeQuest (1E005900)].tftForbiddenTomeQuestStagesScript.Fragment_6() - "eqvahqsnoibskswmwbtatatmzaxjnjswkfiqc" Line 364
[10/20/2025 - 02:54:32PM] [Forbidden Tome] Sending punishment event
[10/20/2025 - 02:54:32PM] ERROR: Cannot call Stop() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
	[tftForbiddenTomeQuest (1E005900)].tftForbiddenTomeQuestStagesScript.Fragment_19() - "eqvahqsnoibskswmwbtatatmzaxjnjswkfiqc" Line 324
[10/20/2025 - 02:54:32PM] [Forbidden Tome] Starting punishment binding
[10/20/2025 - 02:54:34PM] [Forbidden Tome] Current Urag mood: -3 - Current Scene: [tftPunishSceneScript < (1E00AA13)>]
[10/20/2025 - 02:54:34PM] [Forbidden Tome] Player not valid or Urag in good mood, skipping contraption sex

Issue is that the "tftPunishScene" property on the quest stage 15 script fragment is not filled, it needs to be set to the scene of the same name. Without this, the punishment scene will hang and prevent DD contraption usage and sex scenes for the player!

 

Hmm, very weird. 

Maybe try this attached file, I double-checked it and the property was filled. Could be I forgot it and filled it after releasing the last version, I don't know 😅

TheForbiddenTome-0.6.2-b.1.zip

[Taki17]

This property is exactly what is needed for the scene to not hang, so you can consider the issue resolved!

[Strish]

Hello everyone, I wanted to try this Hello everyone, I wanted to try this quest, but here's the problem: the note and the key are on top of the table, not on the bottom shelf of the table. Also, the bookshelf itself has no theft status (I don't know how to say otherwise), and when selecting the key and opening the cabinet, nothing happens, you can safely pick up the contents and read all the books. What is the problem? Skyrim version 1.5.97 costs DD 5.2, DDCL is the LATEST, DDNG, and if you remove the "The Forbidden Tome" mod or perform a clean install of DD 5.2, the note, key, and forbidden bookcase will still exist. I'm sorry for my English, it's not my native language.

Edited November 3, 2025 by Strish