Guest Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 Which fictional character do you think deserved better? Same rules: No real people who appeared in fiction. The media in which they originate doesn't matter. NO POLITICS OR RELIGION. Let's keep this within the guidelines people. For me, it would have to be the Clones from Star Wars. They were nothing but puppets for Palpatine to use in his take over of the Galaxy. The Clones were loyal to the Jedi they fought with, but could do nothing when Order 66 was activated. That's why I feel like the Clones deserved so much better, because they had their own personalities and truly cared for the Republic, but could do nothing to stop themselves from betraying the Jedi and the Republic.
Miauzi Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 I have a candidate: "Harey Kelvin" from the novel by Stanislaw Lem -> "Solaris". there are two film versions - the better one by Andrei Tarkowski - the better known one by Steven Soderbergh "Harey" is present twice in the plot of the novel ... as the dead ex-wife of protagonist "Kris Kelvin" and as a "copy" created by the ocean from Kris' memories. that she has to "die" at the end ... I ALWAYS thought it was unfair ... she also deserved the chance to develop herself further.
donttouchmethere Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) My Skyrim PC. She has to test all those devious LL mods no matter how hard she tries to avoid triggering them. ? Edited June 3, 2023 by donttouchmethere
Alessia Wellington Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 1 minute ago, donttouchmethere said: My Skyrim PC. She has to test all those devious LL mods no matter how hard she tries to avoid triggering them. She's only pretending not to like it. In reality, she loves it. Keep punishing her. 1
donttouchmethere Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Alessia Wellington said: She's only pretending not to like it. In reality, she loves it. Keep punishing her. Dang, you know her pretty well.? I had a suspicion already that she secretly visits Skyrim SE ? 1
Miauzi Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 Well - I definitely have it better when it comes to Skyrim... in some part of this fucking multiverse I'm going to die on an intensive care ward in 2033 and come to Nirn. This has nothing to do with faith - but with the knowledge that "infinite diversity" also means "infinite possibilities" ... and every absurd thing that a human mind thinks up ... somewhere else -> is reality that's why the term "fictitious" is so ... complicated (as Recorder always says) it's fictional here... it's real there... so how do you avoid "real". ??? ?
ElaboratePseudonym Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 As I reply to to most of these topics: That which I like while still mostly fitting within the description. Severian. Shadow of the Torturer. also there is no "deserve".
worik Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 Q, (played by Desmond Llewelyn) Developing the most fancy gadgets, just to see them completely destroyed by 007 2
donttouchmethere Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, worik said: Developing the most fancy gadgets, just to see them completely destroyed by 007 You must have some sort of 007 week or month atm? I must admit it's fun to watch them all in chronological order and see how society has changed. At least in the movie kind of change. Me also feels sorry for Mr. Q ? Edited June 3, 2023 by donttouchmethere 1
Alessia Wellington Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said: I must admit it's fun to watch them all in chronological order Newest to oldest I trust? Otherwise, you're doing it wrong.
donttouchmethere Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Alessia Wellington said: Newest to oldest I trust? Otherwise, you're doing it wrong. WHAT? NO! Oldest to newest. That way I don't need to watch em all and give up before the last... err 3? Misogyny goes down ⬇️, action goes up ⬆️, not so hidden Advertising ⬆️, story and the 007 feeling goes down the drain ?. At least that's my impression in chronological order. Edited June 3, 2023 by donttouchmethere
Alessia Wellington Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said: Oldest to newest. Pfft. You start with the bad and end with the good. But what James Bond movie was actually good?
Guest Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Alessia Wellington said: But what James Bond movie was actually good? I have a confession. I have never seen a James Bond movie in my life. I know some references, like “shaken, not stirred”, but that’s pretty much it. Edited June 3, 2023 by deadjester226
Alessia Wellington Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, deadjester226 said: I have never seen a James Bond movie in my life. Same here. Never watched more than what was shown in the trailers.
donttouchmethere Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 16 minutes ago, Alessia Wellington said: Pfft. You start with the bad and end with the good. But what James Bond movie was actually good? I start with the cheesy ones that's true. ? I even think James bond movies need to be a bit cheesy. ? Those early movies have all the archetypes of evil villains and Mr Q rocks in those early James Bond movies. From the newer James Bond generations I liked the one with Pierce Brosman, but that might be caused only thanks the tank driving scene and his role in Remington Steel. (I had a crush on Stephanie Zimbalist that's why I had to watch every episode ?)
Miauzi Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 And because we have arrived at James Bond films ... ...the death of Bond's WIFE - played by Diana Rig... since that moment I HATE the Bond makers ?
Guest Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 23 minutes ago, Miauzi said: And because we have arrived at James Bond films ... ...the death of Bond's WIFE - played by Diana Rig... since that moment I HATE the Bond makers ? Wasn’t she the one he was only married to for 10 minutes before she was killed?
Miauzi Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 Vor 20 Minuten sagte deadjester226: War sie nicht diejenige, mit der er nur zehn Minuten verheiratet war, bevor sie getötet wurde? She was the only "Bond girl" to marry Mr. Bond. all the others Mr. Bond just fucked - Diana Rigg however was led to the marriage altar that's why ... and because of many other things ... she is special
worik Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 1 hour ago, deadjester226 said: I have a confession. I have never seen a James Bond movie in my life. I know some references, like “shaken, not stirred”, but that’s pretty much it. ?My parents even lied about my age, so we could watch them together in the cinema. Personally, I recommend Goldfinger or Thunderball to get into the right mood. Casino Royale gets it quite good if you prefer the modern world ? Spoiler
Speed Metal Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 Conrad Kellogg. A classic "kill him 'cause the story demands it". 1
Guest Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Miauzi said: She was the only "Bond girl" to marry Mr. Bond. all the others Mr. Bond just fucked - Diana Rigg however was led to the marriage altar that's why ... and because of many other things ... she is special One thing that always annoyed me whenever I heard about the Bond movies was how he was a womanizer. It's nice that he got married, even if it didn't end well.
Miauzi Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 Vor 1 Stunde sagte deadjester226: Eine Sache, die mich immer genervt hat, wenn ich von den Bond-Filmen hörte, war, dass er ein Frauenheld war. Es ist schön, dass er geheiratet hat, auch wenn es nicht gut ausgegangen ist. But this actor was only allowed to play Agent 007 once - a pity, really.
belegost Posted June 3, 2023 Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) Essi "Little Eye" Daven. Edited June 3, 2023 by belegost 1
worik Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 8 hours ago, belegost said: Essi "Little Eye" Daven. A necessary death ... otherwise it would be too much of a happy end
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