Guest Posted May 6, 2023 Posted May 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, Evaloves4 said: means since google translation Military. Apologies Miss Eva.
thaclone Posted May 6, 2023 Posted May 6, 2023 15 hours ago, Grey Cloud said: Tell that to the people of Pompeii or the people whose crops get devoured by locusts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_extinction_events so you are comparing natural disasters, that have been happening for millions of years, that could happen right now, in this exact second and will happen again in future, with the conscious destruction of nature by humans? wow 1
Grey Cloud Posted May 6, 2023 Posted May 6, 2023 7 hours ago, Sir Bron said: Well he is left handed...Duh. But he is holding the cigarette in his right hand on the album cover. ?
Grey Cloud Posted May 6, 2023 Posted May 6, 2023 22 minutes ago, thaclone said: so you are comparing natural disasters, that have been happening for millions of years, that could happen right now, in this exact second and will happen again in future, with the conscious destruction of nature by humans? wow No I am not. I am rebutting your statement that "millions of years everything was fine" by showing examples where things were and are not fine without any human intervention. Nature has killed more nature than humans have. You might also want to consider the fact that humans are part of nature.
Darkpig Posted May 6, 2023 Posted May 6, 2023 8 hours ago, Grey Cloud said: You might also want to consider the fact that humans are part of nature. Maybe in the cave man days but humans have considered themselves the "apex predator" for some time now. At this point humans are not part of nature, they are nature.
Grey Cloud Posted May 6, 2023 Posted May 6, 2023 23 minutes ago, Darkpig said: humans have considered themselves the "apex predator" for some time now Humans may consider themselves whatever they wish but the fact remains that everything in the Universe is 'nature'. 1
Darkpig Posted May 7, 2023 Posted May 7, 2023 6 hours ago, Grey Cloud said: Humans may consider themselves whatever they wish but the fact remains that everything in the Universe is 'nature'. And your point?
KoolHndLuke Posted May 7, 2023 Author Posted May 7, 2023 Looked for hours tonight. Nothing I could present that we haven't already read/heard enough about or that wouldn't break rules here- both written and unwritten, lol.
Guest Posted May 7, 2023 Posted May 7, 2023 4 hours ago, KoolHndLuke said: Looked for hours tonight. Nothing I could present that we haven't already read/heard enough about or that wouldn't break rules here- both written and unwritten, lol. > did we mention about conspiracy that sees politicians as aliens who want to conquer human race like in "X files"?
Grey Cloud Posted May 7, 2023 Posted May 7, 2023 6 hours ago, Darkpig said: And your point? Exactly what the sentence says.
Darkpig Posted May 7, 2023 Posted May 7, 2023 30 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said: Exactly what the sentence says. Good for you
Miauzi Posted May 7, 2023 Posted May 7, 2023 Vor 8 Stunden sagte Darkpig: Und Ihr Punkt? You didn't get it... the word "nature" here doesn't stand for various biomes like "forest" or "ocean" or "flower meadows full of butterflies" rather the "cosmos" as such or the "multiverse" (depending on how you look at it) this is about a way of looking at things like it is used in cosmology or quantum physics But that also means - that the products of people like "buildings" - "automobiles" - "ships" up to the "Internet" are part of this "nature". --- So if you use the word "nature" you always have to give a context to it ... because biology uses this term differently than physics therefore they also have other meanings
Grey Cloud Posted May 7, 2023 Posted May 7, 2023 57 minutes ago, Miauzi said: You didn't get it... the word "nature" here doesn't stand for various biomes like "forest" or "ocean" or "flower meadows full of butterflies" rather the "cosmos" as such or the "multiverse" (depending on how you look at it) this is about a way of looking at things like it is used in cosmology or quantum physics But that also means - that the products of people like "buildings" - "automobiles" - "ships" up to the "Internet" are part of this "nature". --- So if you use the word "nature" you always have to give a context to it ... because biology uses this term differently than physics therefore they also have other meanings Exactly.
Darkpig Posted May 7, 2023 Posted May 7, 2023 37 minutes ago, Miauzi said: You didn't get it... the word "nature" here doesn't stand for various biomes like "forest" or "ocean" or "flower meadows full of butterflies" rather the "cosmos" as such or the "multiverse" (depending on how you look at it) this is about a way of looking at things like it is used in cosmology or quantum physics But that also means - that the products of people like "buildings" - "automobiles" - "ships" up to the "Internet" are part of this "nature". --- So if you use the word "nature" you always have to give a context to it ... because biology uses this term differently than physics therefore they also have other meanings Fatalistic thinking will get you nowhere in life. The cosmos? Humans have conquered that too and are now twiddling their thumbs figuring out what to do next. The multiverse on the other hand sounds like a conspiracy theory all on its own. That or a Marvel movie. So unless something crazy happens like Cthulhu sneezing humans will continue to be king of the mountain the shit covered mountain. So there you have it. Until Cthulhu sneezes humans: 15 hours ago, Darkpig said: are nature.
Miauzi Posted May 7, 2023 Posted May 7, 2023 Vor 18 Minuten sagte Darkpig: Fatalistisches Denken bringt dich im Leben nirgendwo hin. Der Kosmos? Die Menschen haben auch das überwunden und drehen jetzt Däumchen, um herauszufinden, was als nächstes zu tun ist. Das Multiversum hingegen klingt wie eine eigene Verschwörungstheorie. Das oder ein Marvel-Film. Wenn also nicht etwas Verrücktes passiert wie Cthulhu, werden Menschen, die niesen, weiterhin König des Berges sein, der mit Scheiße bedeckte Berg. Da haben Sie es also. Bis Cthulhu Menschen niest: ich antworte darauf mal in meiner Muttersprache: "was interessiert es eine deutsche Eiche wenn sich ein Schwein daran schuppert" ?
Grey Cloud Posted May 7, 2023 Posted May 7, 2023 33 minutes ago, Darkpig said: Fatalistic thinking will get you nowhere in life. So sayeth the one doing the fatalism.
Darkpig Posted May 7, 2023 Posted May 7, 2023 Quote So sayeth the one doing the fatalism. Somebody wasn't paying attention to what I said. Ah well. Did anybody cover the 1980s, 1990s Satanic panic?
Miauzi Posted May 7, 2023 Posted May 7, 2023 Vor 4 Minuten sagte Darkpig: Jemand hat nicht darauf geachtet, was ich gesagt habe. Ah, gut. Hat jemand über die satanische Panik der 1980er und 1990er berichtet? Well - in my home town ("capital" of a district in the north of Thuringia), three young schoolchildren had tortured a fourth to death as part of a satanic ritual in the early 1990s. Panic? No - but it's something else when you know some of those involved or the families! yes, of course, the "press" enthusiastically exaggerated it ... but yellow press has existed in today's D-Land since it was founded in 1949 It is not for nothing that the newspaper with the four CAPITAL LETTERS is considered "...the newspaper - which first spoke to the accident victim and can therefore report exclusively..." (after all, it is still the paper with the highest circulation of a daily newspaper)
Grey Cloud Posted May 7, 2023 Posted May 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Darkpig said: Somebody wasn't paying attention to what I said. No? You, and several others, have taken the position that humans are wrecking the planet and there is nothing to be done about it because - humans. Is that not a fatalistic Weltanschauung?
Z0mBieP00Nani Posted May 7, 2023 Posted May 7, 2023 I like how if you talk about 9/11 that's fair game, but if you mention how the 2020 election was obviously stolen and voice your opinions on that, in a topic about conspiracy theories, the comment gets yeeted. Just saying...
Grey Cloud Posted May 7, 2023 Posted May 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, Z0mBieP00Nani said: I like how if you talk about 9/11 that's fair game, but if you mention how the 2020 election was obviously stolen and voice your opinions on that, in a topic about conspiracy theories, the comment gets yeeted. Just saying... The 2020 election is politics. As for "obviously stolen" there is zero credible (or incredible) evidence to support that. The dingbats have been threatening to produce irrefutable proof for three years without actually coming up with anything. 1
KoolHndLuke Posted May 7, 2023 Author Posted May 7, 2023 Yeah.. we'll just pretend that Democracy is alive and well and leave it at that. 1
Grey Cloud Posted May 7, 2023 Posted May 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, KoolHndLuke said: Yeah.. we'll just pretend that Democracy is alive and well and leave it at that. Every political system has its pros and cons. To paraphrase Churchill: "Democracy is the worst political system except for all the others we have tried". Plato and Aristotle both laid out democracy's inherent problems.
KoolHndLuke Posted May 7, 2023 Author Posted May 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said: Every political system has its pros and cons. You're right.
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