The Sisterhood of Dibella SE (January 2025)

[devildx]

I am glad that you are still updating this amazing mod. Really hope that you do something to avoid Svana disappearing from the game when doing the main quest.

[king1728437]

My game keeps crashing when I open the Inner sanctum door.

 

[tgrant349]

Hello, first of all, I love this mod  I have a question and I'm sure it's been answered already I just can't find it, I've look through the 180 plus pages on original LE post and FAQs to no avail. Is Fjotra supposed to be locked in a iron yoke and full chastity belt? She wasn't the first time I found her during her rescue from forsworn, but then my game crashed and upon reload the 2nd time she has iron yoke and chastity belt. She actually wouldn't follow me out of that room, she kept walking back to her cell, I actually had to use defeat and put her in a sack and carry her to the temple and then release her there to continue the quest. It just seems like she isn't supposed to be in these devices during helping the sybil phases.

  If she is supposed to be locked in them then there is no problem, but if not I don't know how to remove them, I don't have the proper key to remove or pickpocket them

[DeepBlueFrog]

3 minutes ago, tgrant349 said:

Hello, first of all, I love this mod  I have a question and I'm sure it's been answered already I just can't find it, I've look through the 180 plus pages on original LE post and FAQs to no avail. Is Fjotra supposed to be locked in a iron yoke and full chastity belt? She wasn't the first time I found her during her rescue from forsworn, but then my game crashed and upon reload the 2nd time she has iron yoke and chastity belt. She actually wouldn't follow me out of that room, she kept walking back to her cell, I actually had to use defeat and put her in a sack and carry her to the temple and then release her there to continue the quest. It just seems like she isn't supposed to be in these devices during helping the sybil phases.

  If she is supposed to be locked in them then there is no problem, but if not I don't know how to remove them, I don't have the proper key to remove or pickpocket them

 

She is supposed to wear them and they are supposed to be removed after you bring her back to the temple.

 

She is also supposed to follow you.... if she returns to cage, something is off.

[tgrant349]

Thank you for such a quick response, I figured something wasn't right  much, much too far along now in the game to go back, I guess I'll try and figure out console command to remove them. I am at the stage where I just returned from Riften and about to start corruption of individual priestess in Dawnstar etc. Everything has been fine with no issues other than the Fjotra no following thing, I figured when I had to put her in a sack I may have been messing up, it just seemed to work so I let it go. 

Thank you again for responding so fast. It is much appreciated. Your mods are awesome and I can tell that you really care about what you put out there and really stay up to date with them. Thank you so much 

[joeyjoejoejrshabadoo]

Hey @DeepBlueFrog just an FYI:

I recently went ahead and got SE after playing LE for years and using pretty much all of your mods in LE. So in playing SE now, I added this version of the Sisterhood Of Dibella, and the most recent version of Hormones you have posted as well. With this version, the Sisters inside the temple were wearing vanilla outfits, the inside of the temple is vanilla with nothing to trigger the quests or the Hormones Sex Change part of the quest for a male PC, and there's no back door into the baths of the Temple.

 

With that said, I removed this version and went back to the latest version you had posted in your SE conversion thread, and now all of those things are present in my game, which I think may be due to the Sisterhood Sisters file being present.  However, the change to my male PC after rescuing Fjotra didn't occur automatically, I had to use the Hormones MCM to engage it. Not sure if its because those files aren't present in this version, but if there's anything I can send you to help, let me know.

 

Appreciate your work on this stuff over the years. Cheers!

[DeepBlueFrog]

2 hours ago, joeyjoejoejrshabadoo said:

Hey @DeepBlueFrog just an FYI:

I recently went ahead and got SE after playing LE for years and using pretty much all of your mods in LE. So in playing SE now, I added this version of the Sisterhood Of Dibella, and the most recent version of Hormones you have posted as well. With this version, the Sisters inside the temple were wearing vanilla outfits, the inside of the temple is vanilla with nothing to trigger the quests or the Hormones Sex Change part of the quest for a male PC, and there's no back door into the baths of the Temple.

 

With that said, I removed this version and went back to the latest version you had posted in your SE conversion thread, and now all of those things are present in my game, which I think may be due to the Sisterhood Sisters file being present.  However, the change to my male PC after rescuing Fjotra didn't occur automatically, I had to use the Hormones MCM to engage it. Not sure if its because those files aren't present in this version, but if there's anything I can send you to help, let me know.

 

Appreciate your work on this stuff over the years. Cheers!

 

The changes to a male player should not happen automatically. You have to toggle that using the stone flowers on the altar in the temple.

 

The outfits and the missing door in the back is more concerning. Not sure what happened there.

[joeyjoejoejrshabadoo]

4 hours ago, DeepBlueFrog said:

 

The changes to a male player should not happen automatically. You have to toggle that using the stone flowers on the altar in the temple.

 

The outfits and the missing door in the back is more concerning. Not sure what happened there.

Oh, I turned that on with the stone flower on the left, didn't proc. And I wasn't sure if it was tied in to SD+, so I also installed that as well. With the older versions, I got it all back, but it didn't automatically follow through with the Dibella quest gender swap.

[ridaraw793]

Cool mod but...

WHY NOT MAKE QUEST MARKERS FOR THIS MOD???????????

I spend many hours just for searching and searching and searching...
Anyone think its a fun? For spending hours for searching things?

OMG... IDK why good is this.


I m here now:
 

(M/F) 10- Find Haelga's Traveling sister hood
(M/F) 12- Track down Svana in the Ratways

But i cant find that girl... WHY NO HAVE QUEST MARKER IN THIS MOD?????????
WWWHYYYYY???????????

Edit:
Now i m here:

(M/F) 40- Find a token from Fjotra's past in her childhood home and bring it back to her.

I cant find because idk her home and still no quest marker. Its time to delete this waste of time mod.

Edited April 3, 2023 by ridaraw793

[ebbluminous]

9 hours ago, ridaraw793 said:

Cool mod but...

WHY NOT MAKE QUEST MARKERS FOR THIS MOD???????????

I spend many hours just for searching and searching and searching...
Anyone think its a fun? For spending hours for searching things?

OMG... IDK why good is this.


I m here now:
 

(M/F) 10- Find Haelga's Traveling sister hood
(M/F) 12- Track down Svana in the Ratways

But i cant find that girl... WHY NO HAVE QUEST MARKER IN THIS MOD?????????
WWWHYYYYY???????????

Edit:
Now i m here:

(M/F) 40- Find a token from Fjotra's past in her childhood home and bring it back to her.

I cant find because idk her home and still no quest marker. Its time to delete this waste of time mod.

Mod makes don't have to include quest markers, there is no law that says they have to...

[DoctaSax]

@ridaraw793

You're a lot more likely to get a positive response if you ask politely. Calling the mod a waste of time because it's not to your taste is rude.

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

On 4/3/2023 at 4:15 AM, ridaraw793 said:

Cool mod but...

WHY NOT MAKE QUEST MARKERS FOR THIS MOD???????????

I spend many hours just for searching and searching and searching...
Anyone think its a fun? For spending hours for searching things?

OMG... IDK why good is this.


I m here now:
 

(M/F) 10- Find Haelga's Traveling sister hood
(M/F) 12- Track down Svana in the Ratways

But i cant find that girl... WHY NO HAVE QUEST MARKER IN THIS MOD?????????
WWWHYYYYY???????????

Edit:
Now i m here:

(M/F) 40- Find a token from Fjotra's past in her childhood home and bring it back to her.

I cant find because idk her home and still no quest marker. Its time to delete this waste of time mod.

 

I don't use quest markers by design.

 

I don't like the downward trend from Bethesda games into hand holding and making things too simple. 

Quest markers turn the game into a check -list of markers instead of discovering things for yourself.

 

I am the first to admit some of the quest objectives are not clear and could be improved with dialogues hints, quest stages, journal entries, books or notes.

And I am happy to add anything I can to improve that in the mod... except for quest markers

 

For Svana, I found out recently that NPCs can be enrolled into radiant quests and not be where I was expecting them to be. 

Not much I can do about that except maybe add an alternate way to get the hood if svana wanders about.

 

For the example of Fjotra's toy, this is made difficult because the game physics tend to push the object around, sometimes behind furniture. 

I am aware of that issue and I will fix it when I get a chance. 

A quest marker wouldn't have helped you here anyway... it would have marked the house but not the location of the object inside the house.

[tznvlw]

@DeepBlueFrog

 

I have updated the user manual

 

please update your link to this post (Please add a post link, not an attachment file link, because I need to update the manual from time to time?) :

 

[jg8ts]

This is one of my favorite mods which is why I'm a little perplexed as to a bug I'm finding on this play through. In Broken Tower Redoubt I crash when I approach Fjotra's cell - about the point just after entering the circle of candles in front of her cell.

 

It's not her that is the cause (directly), because I can use the console to place her at me on the other side of the room, but then she runs back to her cell door, complaining about needing to be let out. When I approach her cell, one step at a time, I can briefly see a point where she's changes from her barmaid's dress into rags and has DD gear equipped right before it crashes, so I assume the problem occurs after that point.

 

Using Mod Organizer, the mod is loaded pretty late in order, with only bodyslide builds and FNIS after it.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Also any thoughts on steps I could take in the console as a quick fix, so I can bypass having to go near the cell door. e.g. go outside, the tower, change the quest stage and TP her to me?

 

My fallback will be to start a new game, load the minimum, test it, and then start to incrementally add mods back in until I find the conflict... but just wanted to see if there was a quick solution from the clever people here first before I start ??

 

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

1 hour ago, jg8ts said:

This is one of my favorite mods which is why I'm a little perplexed as to a bug I'm finding on this play through. In Broken Tower Redoubt I crash when I approach Fjotra's cell - about the point just after entering the circle of candles in front of her cell.

 

It's not her that is the cause (directly), because I can use the console to place her at me on the other side of the room, but then she runs back to her cell door, complaining about needing to be let out. When I approach her cell, one step at a time, I can briefly see a point where she's changes from her barmaid's dress into rags and has DD gear equipped right before it crashes, so I assume the problem occurs after that point.

 

Using Mod Organizer, the mod is loaded pretty late in order, with only bodyslide builds and FNIS after it.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Also any thoughts on steps I could take in the console as a quick fix, so I can bypass having to go near the cell door. e.g. go outside, the tower, change the quest stage and TP her to me?

 

My fallback will be to start a new game, load the minimum, test it, and then start to incrementally add mods back in until I find the conflict... but just wanted to see if there was a quick solution from the clever people here first before I start ??

 

 

That usually points to a bad version of DD (make sure you have 5.1 or later) or HDT (I use Simple HDT-SMP 1.39).

[jg8ts]

3 hours ago, DeepBlueFrog said:

That usually points to a bad version of DD (make sure you have 5.1 or later) or HDT (I use Simple HDT-SMP 1.39).

 

thank you. I'll go and check both of those

[Miauzi]

Vor 6 Stunden sagte jg8ts:

Dies ist einer meiner Lieblingsmods, weshalb ich ein wenig ratlos bin, was einen Fehler betrifft, den ich bei diesem Durchspielen finde. In Broken Tower Redoubt stürzte ich ab, als ich mich Fjotras Zelle näherte – etwa an dem Punkt, kurz nachdem ich den Kerzenkreis vor ihrer Zelle betreten hatte.

 

Sie ist nicht die Ursache (direkt), weil ich sie über die Konsole auf der anderen Seite des Raums zu mir platzieren kann, aber dann rennt sie zurück zu ihrer Zellentür und beschwert sich, dass sie rausgelassen werden muss. Als ich mich Schritt für Schritt ihrer Zelle nähere, kann ich kurz einen Punkt sehen, an dem sie das Kleid ihrer Bardame in Lumpen verwandelt und DD-Ausrüstung ausgerüstet hat, kurz bevor es abstürzt, also nehme ich an, dass das Problem nach diesem Punkt auftritt.

 

Mit Mod Organizer wird der Mod ziemlich spät in der Reihenfolge geladen, mit nur Bodyslide-Builds und FNIS danach.

 

Irgendwelche Gedanken?

 

Auch alle Gedanken zu Schritten, die ich als schnelle Lösung in die Konsole aufnehmen könnte, damit ich umgehen kann, in die Nähe der Zellentür gehen zu müssen. zB nach draußen gehen, den Turm, die Queststufe wechseln und sie zu mir TPen?

 

Mein Fallback wird sein, ein neues Spiel zu starten, das Minimum zu laden, es zu testen und dann Mods schrittweise wieder hinzuzufügen, bis ich den Konflikt finde ... aber ich wollte nur sehen, ob es eine schnelle Lösung von den cleveren Leuten hier gibt zuerst bevor ich anfange ? ?

 

 

the question is...have you already received and completed the Missing Sisters quest?

when i got this error - i had entered this cell before i was even in the temple... and got a crash.

The background is (IMO) a conflict with the vanilla game mechanic and the replacer for the girl...because she's supposed to show up there - after getting the quest from the temple (the Sybill quest).

I wrote a few posts about this a few months ago (ie last year) - just until I find them again now... it could take a few hours.

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

2 hours ago, Miauzi said:

the question is...have you already received and completed the Missing Sisters quest?

when i got this error - i had entered this cell before i was even in the temple... and got a crash.

The background is (IMO) a conflict with the vanilla game mechanic and the replacer for the girl...because she's supposed to show up there - after getting the quest from the temple (the Sybill quest).

I wrote a few posts about this a few months ago (ie last year) - just until I find them again now... it could take a few hours.

 

If you get the latest files from the SE beta testing thread, that issue should be fixed now.

[jg8ts]

13 hours ago, jg8ts said:

 

thank you. I'll go and check both of those

 

I had DD 5.1 so I upgraded to 5.2 and have latest version for SE for HDT-SMP.

 

I started a fresh game. currently I'm on the Heart of Dibella quest, which I think is listed as T01 - at least that the only quest I have when I use SQT in console. Stage 70 is the last step with a 1 against it, so its my currently displayed state for that quest. It still CTDs at the same point when I approach Fjotra's cell and she changes her outfit and equips DD, although it freezes for a few seconds now before CTD. Not sure that's an improvement.

 

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the question is...have you already received and completed the Missing Sisters quest?

I'm not on the Missing Sisters quest right now.

 

 

I did try cloning my profile in Mod Organizer, stripping it right back and then re-trying this quest at level 1. This worked. I kept on adding mods until everything had been re-added and it was still working, which was unexpected. The plugin order may not have been ideal but if it worked then who am I complain.

 

I think I'll do a basic mod load some core stuff plus this mod and its dependencies, get through this part of the quest, and then add every other mod in and play the game from there.

[jg8ts]

3 hours ago, jg8ts said:

 

I had DD 5.1 so I upgraded to 5.2 and have latest version for SE for HDT-SMP.

 

I started a fresh game. currently I'm on the Heart of Dibella quest, which I think is listed as T01 - at least that the only quest I have when I use SQT in console. Stage 70 is the last step with a 1 against it, so its my currently displayed state for that quest. It still CTDs at the same point when I approach Fjotra's cell and she changes her outfit and equips DD, although it freezes for a few seconds now before CTD. Not sure that's an improvement.

 

I'm not on the Missing Sisters quest right now.

 

 

I did try cloning my profile in Mod Organizer, stripping it right back and then re-trying this quest at level 1. This worked. I kept on adding mods until everything had been re-added and it was still working, which was unexpected. The plugin order may not have been ideal but if it worked then who am I complain.

 

I think I'll do a basic mod load some core stuff plus this mod and its dependencies, get through this part of the quest, and then add every other mod in and play the game from there.

 

When I do a basic load of mods I can get to Fjotra and set her free. I then add my other mods back in.

 

After returning Fjotra and praying at the altar I sleep on the altar to see if it'll kick off Sanguines Debauchery.

 

 I got an error message, twice:

 

"Libs is none in zadNPCQuestScript. Incomplete uninstall/upgrade attempt"

 

Followed by another message (twice):

 

"A fatal error has occurred with your installation of Devious Devices. Incomplete uninstall attempt perhaps. Aborting update chain."

 

Followed by both messages again, a single time. This doesn't cause a CTD but its clearly indicative of some underlying problem in DD.

 

Anyone have a quick thought on how this is a problem in a new game and how to fix it? I can move this to a generic tech support thread if appropriate. Papyrus log attached from load of game to errors, then I quit out of the game.

Papyrus.0.log

Edited April 17, 2023 by jg8ts

[danna233]

This mod does not use DD. So it's probably better to ask the developers of DD

[DeepBlueFrog]

Make sure to use the latest version from my SE beta testing thread. There was a bug involving meeting fjotra before her quest starts.

[AshParadox]

Hi again,

 

Still no luck with Fjotra's childhood toy. I had to use setstage to pass the quest.

 

I've encountered a similar issue trying to get access to the book of poetry, and now I don't even get the relevant dialogue from Elisif (it's just default dialogue, I've even done quests for her like setting her father's spirit to rest etc which I actually think relate to another mod...). Is there a formid for the item I need to get so I can just progress the quest? I've burgled the entire Blue Palace and can't find the poetry book.

[DeepBlueFrog]

35 minutes ago, AshParadox said:

Hi again,

 

Still no luck with Fjotra's childhood toy. I had to use setstage to pass the quest.

 

I've encountered a similar issue trying to get access to the book of poetry, and now I don't even get the relevant dialogue from Elisif (it's just default dialogue, I've even done quests for her like setting her father's spirit to rest etc which I actually think relate to another mod...). Is there a formid for the item I need to get so I can just progress the quest? I've burgled the entire Blue Palace and can't find the poetry book.

I won’t be able to answer before next week.

I can tell you the book is in her bedroom. There are other copies that work as well - one in Pantea Ateia a bedroom in the bards college. I can’t remember the other ones.

[Miauzi]

As I wrote on the first page, I would like to have this mod in the setup for my blog story ... since the central mod for the "Bloody Serana" finally works - I installed the "sisterhood" today and subjected it to a first test

 

What struck me ... I can no longer switch the light from the temple "back" (on the flower) - it stays with the Daedric light ... consequently these "envoys" are also in the sisters' quarters

 

Since in the first part of my story I only want to get as far as Dibella's blessing ... it was enough to free "Sybil" (ie "Fjotra").
So first collect the sons - then get the order from the priestess to go into the "Holy of Holies" ... to then be accused of a "serious crime" by the chief priestess.

yes - I know the unresolvable contradictions between the vanilla quest and the mod... this isn't my first time playing this.
It doesn't bother me...if that makes sure that important things don't break - it's all fine. Why is my own "roll-play" in my head when using such a game??
Even!

There was also no CtD in the room cell with the dungeon of "Fjotra" - the dead sister was also ready right away... and thanks to the Serana mod one of her succubi was in the room - and the "thorn heart" didn't have the slightest hint of one Chance against this demon (the seductive girls are from the Serana mod)

 

The new replacer for "Fjotra" is quite successful for my taste.

 

 

Overall I am very happy with the test so far.

The tiresome problem from my last installation - the missing line of dialogue with the menu for the priestess (Senna?) ... which essentially initiates the orders/quests - is NO longer available!
So nothing stands in the way of further testing - I have the one letter from a "travelling" sister - now I have to go looking for the second one.
(I'll take a look at the solution)

In my story, the main part of the quest series should then be designed together with Serana as a companion ... ergo, of course, I will then also choose the final path of corruption.