Origamiboy Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 You need to stop locking threads and making people put requests into one big thread. It never gets attention that way and no one can find their request. It gets buried forgotten and ignored instead of food for thought, with the possibility of someone getting back to you about it. I don't know what made you start this crap but it sucks, so stahpit Link to comment
« Broken ‡ Mirror » Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 http://www.loverslab.com/topic/19048-notice-summer-cleaning/ http://www.loverslab.com/topic/19249-notice-summer-cleaning-part-deux/ You are obviously ignorant and haven't read any of these two threads. Link to comment
Ashal Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Please put all moderation requests in the moderation requests thread. Thread Locked. (joking) But really, the mod request thread is the most trafficked thread on this site by far, and that's before we started cleaning up the individual threads. It gets more attention there than it does as "yet another person wanting something" thread cluttering up the board with it's own topic. But more importantly, if you have an issue with how we're handling moderation, bring it up with a moderator. You are much more likely to get a positive response that way than a thread whose sole intention is to complain. Link to comment
gregathit Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Ah yes, so hundreds of threads that don't get a response, but instead muck up the forum and folks struggle to find what they are looking for as it is buried by requests to port this, or request to make this and so on. The requests to "make" something very rarely get fulfilled anyway, so having them in one big thread makes more sense than cluttering up things. Link to comment
Origamiboy Posted August 11, 2013 Author Share Posted August 11, 2013 I have a better idea, why not make a mod request forum under skyrim nonadult mods, and one under adult mods. That way you can still keep the threads organized and not have it clutter the main forum. Sort of how you have a sub forum for downloads, just make one for requests. Link to comment
Khiropter Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 there is one in each section Link to comment
Ark of Truth Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 there is one in each section I think he means a sub-forum which would contain the requests (threads) For example Skyrim General Discussion is a sub-forum of the forum Skyrim. Link to comment
Origamiboy Posted August 11, 2013 Author Share Posted August 11, 2013 ^^^^^^^^^ What he said Link to comment
Ark of Truth Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Yeah that's already been brought up and the idea was ruled out as bad. Link to comment
gregathit Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Seriously, I'll say it one more time, 99% percent of requests NEVER get fulfilled. Can you now see why it is pointless to have individual threads that cater to something that will just be ignored or bumped forever? That is just a waste of server space and bandwidth. If you want something made or ported, then what you need to do is learn to mod yourself. Most of the mods that exist today, be they clothing, armor, quests, overhauls or whatever, came to be as a result of an individual wanting something that didn't exist and that no one was willing to spend the time to make. Most all of these individuals had zero knowledge of modding. They just rolled up their sleeves and got after it. Having a subsection of requests won't get them met, nor will it get them attention. Instead, folks need to stop waiting on others and figure out how to make things themselves. There are a number of tutorials on this site and others. There are also a number of folks here that are willing to help coach you along. Link to comment
DoctaSax Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Back when I was still in a band (small-time, just for fun) we had a sign that said "No requests" right in front of us. Old habits die hard Seriously though, this has indeed been talked about already and I'd suggest sticking to the summer cleaning thread if people wanna continue talking about it. I think it's worth pointing out though that there really is no difference between the two systems in the ratio of requests getting picked up v those that aren't. I'm only just done removing download & tech threads from skyrim non-adult & wading through all those pages gives you a pretty good overview like that. I repeat: no difference in the number of requests getting taken up. Pretty big difference on other fronts though. If people don't seem to take up a request - of - yours, it may not be the place you put it in that is to blame, but the nature of your request, the difficulty involved, the fact that people have other shit to do, or the fact that even if a person with the right skills wanted to work on it, it wouldn't be done quite as fast as you bump it. Link to comment
Brigade Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 hundreds of threads that don't get a response, but instead muck up the forum Which has turned into dozens of threads which are immediately locked, and do the same thing. Link to comment
Ark of Truth Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 If you want something made or ported, then what you need to do is learn to mod yourself. THIS ^ I learnt how to port and convert stuff between bodies etc. It's easy!! The hard part is just taking the time to learn it. Link to comment
gregathit Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 hundreds of threads that don't get a response, but instead muck up the forum Which has turned into dozens of threads which are immediately locked, and do the same thing. They serve to help point folks to the request threads and get them used to using them. Once folks are accustomed to doing so, we will begin removing them to help clean things up. If you glance through the Skyrim section you will see that it has a shit ton of threads and probably close to 70 plus percent of them are nothing more than requests that are just sitting there being ignored. If we had left this to continue it would have gotten out of hand eventually. It isn't perfect, but it is better than having the useful threads buried and duplicate threads started because folks could not find the existing thread among the "requests". Link to comment
Origamiboy Posted August 11, 2013 Author Share Posted August 11, 2013 Yea the problem is i don't have a korean social security number -.- and it is assinine for me to move there and pass all of the citizenship tests for ONE MOD... Link to comment
Dagimpyman Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Yea the problem is i don't have a korean social security number -.- and it is assinine for me to move there and pass all of the citizenship tests for ONE MOD... I have a feeling your post is meant to refer to some Naver Cafe thread, but not this one... Link to comment
Koko.Hekmatyar Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 I'm all for consolidating Requests and what not into one thread per forum. However, I do think the Mods need to look more closely at the threads they are locking as I have seen a lot recently get locked that are not even new threads they have been around for quite awhile and the moment anyone posts in it the thread gets locked. New requests threads yeah point them to the thread used for requests and lock the thread but older ones that someone might just be asking for an update on a "WIP" should be left alone. Link to comment
gregathit Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 I agree with you Keera. I am trying to keep any thread open that has had any sort of activity of someone making something. If I accidentally lock one that has this, just PM me or the moderator who locked it. The older ones I have locked thus far have mostly be very old threads that went no where and someone necro'd months after the last post. Link to comment
winny257 Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 I was on Non Adult Mods Skyrim, since more than half has been closed yes yes quite a surprise when I! what's going on, how can that be? I'm German and do not speak English, but I know this one looks only and a little look before opening a new thread. though I was also a thread closed but only because my english skills are equal to zero, then I would namely have known that I was just in the wrong spot. german \ deutsch ! ich habe ja nicht schlecht gestaunt als ich auf Skyrim Non Adult Mods war , da ist ja mehr als die hälfte geschlossen worden ! was ist da los , wie kann das sein ? ich bin deutscher und spreche kein englisch , trotzdem weiß ich das man erst schaut und ein bißchen sucht , bevor man einen neuen thread öffnet .mir wurde zwar auch ein thread geschlossen aber nur weil meine englischkenntnisse gleich null sind , dann hätte ich nemlich gewußt das ich nur an der falschen stelle war . Link to comment
dobmc Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 To be honest, I felt devilish everytime I saw a thread lock because it was in the "wrong" place. I usually go on thinking "wow another dependent beggar who can't endure on relying himself" and I always felt like adding insult to injury... But the thread is always locked. Getting philosophical here but I remember in my youth I used to have a friend who would just cheat off someone else's homework frequently. Thinking he probably had other reasons, I rarely warned him and never reminded him of his problem. Later around the end of Highschool I recognized some rising symptoms he showed. Because he was so dependent on just cheating, he basically lost the ability to learn himself since he became too lazy. Surprisingly, he had high grades, ranging from a B+ to an A. His GPA was much better than my results and he probably went to a really good college Connecting this to the "fisherman and fish" concept... Explaining the fisherman and fish concept is basically a matter of teaching a person to "learn how to fish" or to keep on providing them fish and determining which is better for that individual. People always end up saying that the teaching part of the answer is the better choice. Well, because the person becomes independent by fishing himself instead of relying on us providing him fishes. This relates to the first paragraph because... Whatever, I assume you understand why. I agree with the same answer however, answers might vary depending on personal preferences. What I mean in the end is that: is the today "you" better than the "yesterday" you? I'm not expecting any of you change with my half-assed persuasive explanation but I do want you to know the basic of instincts of animal and humans: DIY(Do it yourself) and put that into comparison with the admin's actions and your spamtastic requests. On my perspective of the frequent locking threads issue. I think its necessary. I mean, more organization right? C'mon it's no that bad. And since its more organized and requests are collected into a determined location, I can easily 1) Go to that thread 2) and answer the request without having to click everywhere to find the request(which I won't do). Link to comment
quin666 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWeBHJNyM1s[/media] Link to comment
Ark of Truth Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 lol what's the video got to do with anything? Link to comment
quin666 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 lol what's the video got to do with anything? How I feel about threads get almost zero response. When become pain in ass browse forums? (Non Adult Mods) Always be people refuse accept change but for best. Link to comment
Ark of Truth Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 If you guys have a problen with it take it up with site staff. They will listen but as soon as you all start complaining lime young children they won't listen anymore. Just bring it up calmly and see how it goes. Link to comment
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