SAM Enhanced Animations

[ookkerpak]

1 minute ago, South8028 said:

how the latest zaz skeleton differs from previous versions

Don't know about all the details, but I believe the update was mostly about bringing the SAM compatible version there.

[South8028]

14 minutes ago, ookkerpak said:

Don't know about all the details, but I believe the update was mostly about bringing the SAM compatible version there.

My sam works unchanged with the old skeleton. There is no visible difference. But I did not understand what kind of pose on your knees? What is it for? )

[ookkerpak]

11 minutes ago, South8028 said:

pose on your knees?

Do you mean AtomicJerking_M_Kneel? That comes packed in SAMFormer as an example for atomic lust's male jerking animation.

[South8028]

1 hour ago, ookkerpak said:

Do you mean AtomicJerking_M_Kneel? That comes packed in SAMFormer as an example for atomic lust's male jerking animation.

Yeah. Thank you.

[Boceifus]

3 hours ago, South8028 said:

Please explain how the latest zaz skeleton differs from previous versions? I returned my old skeleton and didn't notice any difference.

 

The latest update only adds support for Screen Archer, doesn't change or update the the skeleton.

[Boceifus]

3 hours ago, ookkerpak said:

So far a few other mods that change Leito anims have got caught doing this. Staged leito patc, voices for leito for example. Those have .xml files in the AAF folder which do something to the animation packs. Also not having atomic lust and original Leito anims in your loadorder does the same. I don't know about others and would like to hear about them if you can identify any. You can try the modifications though by just copying them in to your SAM adjustment folder (data/F4SE/plugins/SAF/adjustments) and picking male and female adjustments from SAM menu separately during animation. There's over 200 of them, so it's a bit frustrating to do it that way.

I have atomic Lust, I dont have voices for leito.  I had to use Stages Leito + erection fix because for some reason with just UAP erections don't work for leitos, though with all the UAP updates since I started using UAP that may have been changes or fixed. Dont have any issues with the 68% with your mod uninstalled though. Should I disable Leito Stages plus erection fix to use yours?

[ookkerpak]

3 hours ago, Boceifus said:

Should I disable Leito Stages plus erection fix to use yours?

Yes. I couldn't get them to work together without making the staged mod a requirement.

[Boceifus]

36 minutes ago, ookkerpak said:

Yes. I couldn't get them to work together without making the staged mod a requirement.

Ok got it to work, only problem is it changed my body preset. 

 

I think your gravity adjustments may be the issue, they dont reset to the preset before the scene. at least for me. leaving the boobs flat and spread far apart.

Edited December 11, 2022 by Boceifus

[ookkerpak]

36 minutes ago, Boceifus said:

changed my body preset

That's weird. SAMFormer should remove the adjustments when you change or exit a scene. Take a look at the SAM menu, most likely you have some adjustment left on. If there's something on the list, just click on the trashcan icon to get rid of it.

SAMFormer doesn't remove adjustments that already are set on a character, it handles only the one I wrote in the .xml - adds them when a scene starts and removes them on scene change/exit. If you add an adjustment to a character via SAM, it's there to stay. Unless you remove it yourself.

 

[poblivion]

44 minutes ago, Boceifus said:

Ok got it to work, only problem is it changed my body preset. 

 

I think your gravity adjustments may be the issue, they dont reset to the preset before the scene. at least for me. leaving the boobs flat and spread far apart.

 

What body are you using? I use the FG body and haven't noticed any problems.

[ookkerpak]

1 hour ago, Boceifus said:

gravity adjustments

Had yet to clarify that there's no actual change in the physics. I just moved the boobs location (some ~5-10 degree rotations in X and Z axis, mostly) according to how (I thought) they would move under gravitys influence.

[Boceifus]

3 hours ago, poblivion said:

 

What body are you using? I use the FG body and haven't noticed any problems.

Fusion Girl.

[poblivion]

10 minutes ago, Boceifus said:

Fusion Girl.

strange ?

[Boceifus]

16 minutes ago, poblivion said:

strange ?

Could be user error, going to check things that were mentioned above will be messing around with it again later, I dont give up so easy   and I am the one that did the vanilla conversions that come with the body, DD conversion which I threw out there for anybody to take it over if they want (as long as proper credit is given <.< ), there are a few items in DD I just could not fix right and I have several others of my favorite outfits on the nexus.  So.. Fusion Girl is the only body I use, ditched CBBE quite a long time ago, IMO Fusion girl is just an overall better body, you dont have to add fixes to it to make it work.

Edited December 11, 2022 by Boceifus

[Boceifus]

Ok so clalk up the body issue I had to user error, not sure what went on with that but no problem there.. now the next part...  everything worked...  however, there are no stages such as what was in Leito stages and UAP, just played one straight up animation.  Is that intentional or something that has to be worked out?

Edited December 12, 2022 by Boceifus

[ookkerpak]

4 hours ago, Boceifus said:

Is that intentional or something that has to be worked out?

It's "intentional" at the moment, because I semi-tried to make a position tree and it didn't work, so I procrastinated. I will figure out how to make proper positiontrees later.

I'm also right now more into adjustments than .xml but eventually I'll get it done.

[Boceifus]

20 minutes ago, ookkerpak said:

It's "intentional" at the moment, because I semi-tried to make a position tree and it didn't work, so I procrastinated. I will figure out how to make proper positiontrees later.

I'm also right now more into adjustments than .xml but eventually I'll get it done.

Kudos to you for diving in, I was poking around myself to see what I could learn and there is a bit of  a learning curve with this, from what I can interpret on the samformer page there is a lot more than just body adjustments you can do, you can also mix and match and make animation groups with this. I guess that's the best way to describe it, for more variety of positions, transitions, and all that stuff.

 

I may take a dive myself and see what I can come up with, if I can get anything to work at all myself eventually.  

[drp23]

What would I need to do to change it so the animation names are unchanged?  I'm playing with the TSEX alpha 0.2, and using this prevents animations from that mod from working.

[ookkerpak]

4 hours ago, sullysam said:

What would I need to do to change...

Haven't tried TSEX and don't know how it works. What you can try, is edit the positiondata.xml 's EACH LINE under the <!-- Adjusted --> topic, so that e.g.

 

this:

<position id="SE Leito Doggy 1 S1" animation="Leito_Doggy_1_S1" tags="Leito,F_M,NoFurn,Doggy,FromBehind,Neutral,Held1,Stim7,Love5,Dom-5,NullToSelf,PenisToVagina,SF:F=F - Leito Doggy 1 S1:M=M - Leito Doggy 1 S1"/>   

 

becomes this:

<position id="Leito_Doggy_1_S1" tags="Leito,F_M,NoFurn,Doggy,FromBehind,Neutral,Held1,Stim7,Love5,Dom-5,NullToSelf,PenisToVagina,SF:F=F - Leito Doggy 1 S1:M=M - Leito Doggy 1 S1"/>   

 

So "SE Leito Doggy 1 S1" animation= is the part you need to remove.

 

Then delete the stuff under the <!-- Hidden originals -->. And you'll also need to delete every duplicate you end up with, so either the anal or vaginal variants need to go, can't have both with original animation names. That should fix it if the problem is the with the names. If it's with the SAMFormer tags I added (SF:F=...etc) , there's nothing you can do about it to make both mods work

 

[vranina]

I have a question. By installing the mod and all its dependencies, will it work without me or do I have to manually start and configure something somewhere?

[ookkerpak]

5 hours ago, vranina said:

do I have to manually start and configure something somewhere?

No. You shouldn't need to do anything but run the animations through AAF menu.

[Saint_Olaf]

I installed this in my old game save and it broke all the animations. 

In fair I deleted everything and started from scratch and it still broke all of my animations when I added it back. 

I feel like the issue I am having is with 

• SAMFormer
• SUP F4SE

 

When i disable them it all started "Mostly" working again. 

I think specifically SUP F4SE is what is causing my problems. 

[ookkerpak]

20 minutes ago, Saint_Olaf said:

think specifically SUP F4SE is what is causing my problems. 

It just got an update I haven't tried myself. See if it would work with the previous version.

[Saint_Olaf]

11 minutes ago, ookkerpak said:

It just got an update I haven't tried myself. See if it would work with the previous version.

LOL I really would like this to work. 

I might give it another shot as soon as my game breaks again and I have to start over. ? I have over 300 mods and a lot of AAF mods so it has a tendency to break lol. 

As things go, I get set up. ooh this is working great, I should add this one, and this one and this one and the next thing you know you have bloated saves or corrupt saves lol. 

[ookkerpak]

7 hours ago, Saint_Olaf said:

LOL I really would like this to work. 

I might give it another shot as soon as my game breaks again and I have to start over. ? I have over 300 mods and a lot of AAF mods so it has a tendency to break lol. 

As things go, I get set up. ooh this is working great, I should add this one, and this one and this one and the next thing you know you have bloated saves or corrupt saves lol. 

Sounds dreadfully familiar.