guide Skyrim AE for Beginners - V 3.1.0

[Varithina]

5 hours ago, Dressblood said:

EDIT: Found the problem, ENB Input Disabler is not working with 1.6.1130.

 

So I stumbled on weird.. bug? I haven't installed all the list yet, up to Physics and Animations, but I don't thinks this is normal so I guess something is wrong. I have installed everything to the point I mentioned before except for the mods that do not work with 1.6.1130, which so far are: Compass Navigation Overhaul, TrueHUD, Improved Camera.

 

So the thing is that after the Vanilla Start ends, when you have to run after the dragon attack, I can't move, actually there's no Player Character, is invisible, just a floating camera.

But in RaceMenu the character looks fine, to make sure it wasn't a bug with the vanilla start, installed Alternative Start to check, but is the same. I did run Bodyslide and Nemesis just in case, but nothing.

 

I don't know if I should move forward with the list hoping it fix itself, or to check when this start to happen.

 

So anyway, if someone has any idea of what could this be, please tell me.

 

There are mods here that as yet have not been updated to the current build of skyrim se, you will either need to wait until they are, or somebody takes over and does so, or revert back to the previous version of the game.

[Guest]

On 12/9/2023 at 12:45 PM, markvarley said:

Well this has thrown a hilarious spanner into the works! 

The first time I played through Skyrim there was no DLC, the second time I did Dragonborn after the main but illness stopped me playing for a few months and when I had time to play again Fallout 4 took my attention, now I'm back and playing again and I've just finished Dragonborn, ready to play Dawnguard and finally meet Serena and have a go at some vampires and boom, Bethesda broke my installation, lots of warnings when I try to load and ignoring them means it just won't load, how long until all the mods updated? Who knows, but I'm starting starfield in January! ?

I feel so bad for  you and anyone who is facing this.  All that work to arrive at a perfect game and then nothing.  I hope they are able to fix the downgrade patcher so you can continue.  I was able to stop the update so I can continue.  Skyrim is the only game I have (or want) so I have to be careful.  Hugs from me and good luck.  T 

[trgdolors]

I just found Unique Border Gates Fixes. It replaces Unique Border Gates, which is in this guide. The Fixes version may solve some of the issues with the original mod. It also has several patches.

 

To state the obvious, since it is ESLed and the original was not, it would likely require a new game to switch if you are already using the original. Plus, the new ESP has a different name than the original. If you do try it, deactivate/remove the original. Replace any patches you are currently using.

 

Sorry if this has been brought up before. I have not tested it yet.

 

Edit: The Lux Orbis FOMOD make you choose which of these two mods you have.

Edited December 20, 2023 by trgdolors

[nokresno]

So I finished building this loadout, played until like level 14 without any major problems, but recently I've been having issues with CTD's when entering through doors in cities, I had it happen once in Markarth, and Solitude feels like 50/50 if you're going to crash or not after entering a house. So far I tried switching armors, disabling autosave, changing HDT-SMP AVX settings (tried all of them apart from one my CPU doesnt support).

 

One thing I found is if I save before entering door and CTD when entering, loading that save and entering that same place will not cause CTD, but CTD will happen later.

 

Logs for all these crashes always indicate NiNode and hdtSMP, where should I look first?

 

crash-2023-12-18-22-35-03-REPORT.txt

[WCSC]

ANyone having an issue going to settings and switching the game difficulty from Novice to Legendary and it not sticking.  Every time I go back, it's switched back to novice.  Also PC Expressions in sex animations are non existent unless I activate a helmet, or deactivate one for some reason

[JimUpdating]

14 hours ago, WCSC said:

ANyone having an issue going to settings and switching the game difficulty from Novice to Legendary and it not sticking.  Every time I go back, it's switched back to novice.  Also PC Expressions in sex animations are non existent unless I activate a helmet, or deactivate one for some reason

There's an issue with difficulty, try https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/106418 

[JimUpdating]

as a different issue, bethini wants to update to bethini PIE version. When using the PIE version with the visual settings listed in this guide, something I or PIE sets blocks skyrim from seeing mods. Just had the irritation that even just 2 mods (USSEP, ASLAL) kept on going to the helgen cart.

[WCSC]

1 hour ago, JimUpdating said:

There's an issue with difficulty, try https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/106418 

Thanks man!

 

[wollboi]

@Aylis and everybody: Just to let people know, I'm finally up and running with 1.6.1130 using the list. I've got all of my mods updated (including Sexlab--new version) and didn't have to restart my playthrough. Still seems pretty stable, although I'm having trouble with the Sons of Skyrim patch for the new version of Great City Winterhold. I had that issue before the update, so I don't know what's going on there but it's not related to the update.

 

Very minor changes I had to make to get it to work:

* Make sure to have the newest SKSE. I only bring this because I had the one for 1.6.1130 downloaded and evidently there was another release that I didn't notice. Kept turning all my plugins off upon launch, which should've been a dead giveaway but I figured it wasn't this because I'd JUST updated it.

* Compass Navigation Overhaul has gotta go. It isn't updated yet, but won't affect playing too much. I didn't have to turn off anything else, just this plugin.

* SSE Engine Fixes has a number of new hoops to jump through until it's updated, but it's relatively simple and easy. Check the posts on its Nexus page for a sticky that gives instructions on what all needs to be done. Basically change three settings in a file and add an additional mod fix for SkyUI. I just placed the new mod underneath all of the other SkyUI mods in the load order and it seems to work fine. All of the other instructions on the page are pretty much taken care of just by updating all mods to the newest version.

 

Now I'm all set for the (rumored) upcoming update when I get to do all of this again.

 

Edit - Nope. Way too many crashes randomly when I decide to move my character. Tried it on several characters and after cleaning my saves. Crash log points to Engine Fixes, so I'm going to say wait until that is fully updated.

Edited December 25, 2023 by wollboi

[trgdolors]

@wollboi Thanks, once again, for guinea pigging these big updates for us!

 

I am still perma-building my load order, starting with about 85% of this guide (Aylis has such a great eye for creating a foundational mod system). But I have added so many mods on top (and I am still going), it will be a while before enough of them (or alternatives to them) have updated. I may wait till the rumored upcoming update to jump in. And I imagine that many mod authors may wait for that point, too. Hopefully, they take care of Engine Fixes soon!

[wollboi]

Looks like my issue only happens while using a controller. So YMMV. Looking for a solution now.

 

Edit: Nope. Still borked. Back to waiting.

 

@Aylis This might be worth a look. NG version of SMP Wind so next time we won't have to wait on it.

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/107718?tab=description

Also, I think the 3BA/HIMBO slides for Sons of Skyrim were moved following its updated. They're both on the page now. I had trouble with the old ones, but this fixed everything.

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/88218

Edited December 25, 2023 by wollboi

[markvarley]

On 12/18/2023 at 2:43 PM, Miss Tee said:

I feel so bad for  you and anyone who is facing this.  All that work to arrive at a perfect game and then nothing.  I hope they are able to fix the downgrade patcher so you can continue.  I was able to stop the update so I can continue.  Skyrim is the only game I have (or want) so I have to be careful.  Hugs from me and good luck.  T 

Thanks @Miss Tee ? I've decided to go over to Strarfield now, I'll leave my Skyrim install intact and hopefully after a starfield playthrough I can come back and fix skyrim and finally play dawnguard ?

Edited December 26, 2023 by markvarley

[Lucky Sparrow]

On 12/25/2023 at 9:15 AM, wollboi said:

Looks like my issue only happens while using a controller. So YMMV. Looking for a solution now.

 

 

I followed all of the update instructions and got my game running and found out my controller had been cursed. 

 

When I navigate menus with the sticks, the cursor hops two rows at a time both vertical and horizontal.  And the exact same thing happens when I navigate with the D pad.

 

When I buy/sell items, sometimes at random it buys/sells all of the items I clicked on without  asking me how many. 

 

When I try to change settings on the main menu most of the choices are grayed out, but the ones that aren't grayed out can't be changed.  So I can't change anything.  Crafting is similar.  

 

When I crouch, the game pauses and kicks me out to my desktop and opens a virtual keyboard.  When I close the keyboard and click back into the game and un-crouch I get kicked right back out again to another virtual keyboard, and so on and so forth.  However, if I don't close the virtual keyboard and go back into the game, crouching works perfectly, but I can't see the bottom of the screen because it's now covered by a small open window that can't be closed.

 

I switched over to keyboard/mouse and my character went into frenetic twitching twirling motion

 

And to top it off, now the edges of my monitor are oozing blood .............. well, not yet, but I feel like anything could happen.

 

The controller is physically and electronically fine.  I'm able to use it to flawlessly play another Steam game (Horizon Zero Dawn), and to play ESO.  

 

I've heard this tune before and I'm done dancing.  I've initiated the Palpatine Doctrine for the game on my drive, and will wipe it out, all of it.  Then reinstall everything and pray. 

 

If that doesn't work, I'm thinking of sacrificing a live chicken.

 

 

[wolbae]

Well, this is annoying. Just got back from a long hiatus to play some Skyrim and finished setting up all the mods, only to realize bethesda screwed us over again with an update. Anyone have a file or link to the old USSEP? Trying to downgrade to 1.6.640 and I am struggling to find one, as that mod seems to blow up whenever I try to do test runs.

[trgdolors]

4 hours ago, wolbae said:

link to the old USSEP? Trying to downgrade to 1.6.640

This?

Unofficial Patch for Game Version 1.6.640 - Direct Link

 

[wollboi]

20 hours ago, Lucky Sparrow said:

I followed all of the update instructions and got my game running and found out my controller had been cursed. 

 

When I navigate menus with the sticks, the cursor hops two rows at a time both vertical and horizontal.  And the exact same thing happens when I navigate with the D pad.

 

When I buy/sell items, sometimes at random it buys/sells all of the items I clicked on without  asking me how many. 

 

When I try to change settings on the main menu most of the choices are grayed out, but the ones that aren't grayed out can't be changed.  So I can't change anything.  Crafting is similar.  

 

When I crouch, the game pauses and kicks me out to my desktop and opens a virtual keyboard.  When I close the keyboard and click back into the game and un-crouch I get kicked right back out again to another virtual keyboard, and so on and so forth.  However, if I don't close the virtual keyboard and go back into the game, crouching works perfectly, but I can't see the bottom of the screen because it's now covered by a small open window that can't be closed.

 

I switched over to keyboard/mouse and my character went into frenetic twitching twirling motion

 

And to top it off, now the edges of my monitor are oozing blood .............. well, not yet, but I feel like anything could happen.

 

The controller is physically and electronically fine.  I'm able to use it to flawlessly play another Steam game (Horizon Zero Dawn), and to play ESO.  

 

I've heard this tune before and I'm done dancing.  I've initiated the Palpatine Doctrine for the game on my drive, and will wipe it out, all of it.  Then reinstall everything and pray. 

 

If that doesn't work, I'm thinking of sacrificing a live chicken.

 

 

 

You're not alone. There's a ton of people with controller and keyboard issues. The menu issues I can understand because Bethesda messed with the order of selections. Some people are unable to change the difficulty, stuff like that. But I have a feeling the controller problem is not even mod related. I've seen a lot of people saying they have like three mods enabled and they're still having issues. So I feel your pain. If you're going to go nuclear on your install, I might just wait it out. I have a feeling we'll be having the same troubles soon enough.

 

That being said, I'm still working on mine. I was able to figure out that Immersive Weapon Equipping crashes it every time I try to move immediately after Ralof cuts my hands free. Removing it fixes the problem for me. It's very weird that nobody else on the Nexus page for the mod is having issues with it though, but it's definitely an issue with mine. Deactivated everything in the list that comes after that mod and it works fine. Thought that might have fixed everything, but enabling all mods (minus that one) causes the same thing, so I'm back to enabling a section at a time. I'm close to being done so I'll try to give an update later tonight.

[wollboi]

K, got a lot farther. All mods running except for Infinity UI, Compass Overhaul, and Immersive Equipping (which I'm pretty sure doesn't have anything to do with my issue). Was able to get past the point where it always crashed, but it crashed while I was looking through containers and the crash log is still saying ThumbstickEvent. I'm back to waiting. I feel like I've done pretty much everything I can. Bethesda just royally fucked us on this update, and for the worst reason ever. I dunno, I might be done with Skyrim for a while. Just looking around the Internet at the host of problems this update has created is just ridiculous. Their updates always break mods, that's just a fact of life, but they've outdone themselves on this one. And they want to use this Creations nonsense in Starfield? When people already don't want to play it and are waiting on mods to make it better? Yeah, good luck with that.

[Varithina]

9 hours ago, wollboi said:

 

You're not alone. There's a ton of people with controller and keyboard issues. The menu issues I can understand because Bethesda messed with the order of selections. Some people are unable to change the difficulty, stuff like that. But I have a feeling the controller problem is not even mod related. I've seen a lot of people saying they have like three mods enabled and they're still having issues. So I feel your pain. If you're going to go nuclear on your install, I might just wait it out. I have a feeling we'll be having the same troubles soon enough.

 

 

It is not just this game that is having controller issues, I use one for forza horizon 3, 4, & 5, it used to be that the left stick would turn, while the right stick would switch view, now the left stick does both, which renders the games basically unplayable, I think one of the windows, or various other driver updates we have had over the past few months has messed something up with the windows controller side of things, or is interfering with the controller drivers in some way or other.

[Bigglsby]

@wollboi@Varithina

Not sure if this will fix all your problems, but just saw this on Nexus and figured it may be what you guys need for controller fixes..  I don't use controllers myself, so couldn't speak to its function.

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/107898

[wollboi]

7 hours ago, Bigglsby said:

@wollboi@Varithina

Not sure if this will fix all your problems, but just saw this on Nexus and figured it may be what you guys need for controller fixes..  I don't use controllers myself, so couldn't speak to its function.

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/107898

Thanks, but that looks incredibly janky. I don't see the structure mentioned in the instructions in either my SSE folder or any of my mods' folders.

 

Faster HDT updated today. Thought that might help, but nope.

Edited December 29, 2023 by wollboi

[wollboi]

FINALLY. There's an incompatibility between Improved Camera and Immersive Actions. Author of IC says it won't be fixed until after the end of the year, but turning it off fixed all of my problems and I'm up and running without issues so far (a couple of hours in after disabling it on a 10-ish hour existing save).

 

Update - Yep, played it last night for 4-5 hours without a single hitch after disabling Improved Camera.

Edited December 29, 2023 by wollboi

[Ihiku]

so are we all just gonna have to suffer while waiting for mod creators to update everything?

Also 

Spoiler

FUCK BETHESDA THIS IS SOME GODDAMN BULLSHIT, THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY ZERO REASON FOR THEM TO DO THIS SHIT! GODDAMN IDIOTS! I'LL STORM THE MAIN FUCKING OFFICE AND MAKE THEM REVERT THIS SHIT IDGAF!

 

[Varithina]

15 hours ago, Bigglsby said:

@wollboi@Varithina

Not sure if this will fix all your problems, but just saw this on Nexus and figured it may be what you guys need for controller fixes..  I don't use controllers myself, so couldn't speak to its function.

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/107898

 

It will not for me as I do not use a controller with skyrim.  I use one for a few other games and all of them are having issues with the controller which pretty much renders them in some way or other unplayable with a controller, and no I have not changed any of the settings that were previously working with those games, it just seems that some update or other, or combination of those updates has borked the hell out of the controller for some reason.

[misterpipes]

Well, I wish I'd checked this thread before spending time tracking down all the mods that was preventing 1130 from launching, could have saved loads of time.
The current hit list of mods that aren't working (for me, at least):
InfinityUI (and by extension, Compass Navigation Overhaul)

Improved Camera (causes CTD after at least Immersive Actions animations, possibly others as well.)

SSE Engine Fixes (works, but need 3 of the options toggled to false)
ENB Input Disabler (still disables input, just not only while ENB is open)
ENB Helper (theres an updated version in the Nexus comments thread I haven't tried yet)

OSLAroused

 

Lots of others needed updating as well.

[Lucky Sparrow]

13 hours ago, Varithina said:

 

It will not for me as I do not use a controller with skyrim.  I use one for a few other games and all of them are having issues with the controller which pretty much renders them in some way or other unplayable with a controller, and no I have not changed any of the settings that were previously working with those games, it just seems that some update or other, or combination of those updates has borked the hell out of the controller for some reason.

Sounds like it might be a Steam issue