guide Skyrim AE for Beginners - V 3.1.0

[hhh7775]

43 minutes ago, Aylis said:

I had SD+ and DD in my builds for tests. Both mods had some issues so i didn't include them.

 

Just saw that there has been another update... Hopefully it didn't break too much (got to test that).

Admittedly, I didn't download a ton of the landscape/LOD portions since I don't really care for them, but the only two issues I've had in actual gameplay after sorting out my crashing issue is the actual Sex lab portion (which I'm gonna be testing more to see what might be the issue once home), and some NPCs having incredibly slow attack speeds. Might try the SPID version of the weapon speed fix to see if that might help for that in particular, but most of the mods otherwise seem fully functional.

[wollboi]

1 hour ago, Aylis said:

I had SD+ and DD in my builds for tests. Both mods had some issues so i didn't include them.

 

Just saw that there has been another update... Hopefully it didn't break too much (got to test that).

Soooo about that ...

 

1.6.1130 broke everything. Bethesda changed the entire menu so that they could add a link to their paid mods, and it pretty much broke everyone's load order across the world in various ways. 1.6.1170 was less of a change, thankfully.

 

The good news is, pretty much everything is caught up now. There were some stragglers for a long time (Infinity UI) and manual tweaks had to be done for some (SSE Engine Fixes, SkyUI). But thankfully even those have been updated by now. I'm running the list in 1.6.1170 and it's extremely stable. I put together a list of changes to get 1170 working:

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Notes on running the list in 1.6.1170 (most up-to-date version)
Everything in the list is currently working on 1170, with just a few tweaks.
* You'll need to follow Wolfpack49's instructions to get SSE Engine Fixes to work. I didn't add the new mod for step #3, as I use "vanilla" SkyUI, so I'd skip that bit and only install it if you need to.
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/17230?tab=posts

** UPDATE - I think this isn't necessary anymore. Just need to replace the "Flashing Game Save Fix" mod with this one (which also fixes that bug): https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/106418
* Update all mods to the newest versions.
* All of the Lux patches have been moved to their own separate Nexus pages--three of them. The advantage of this for the list is that now Via, Lux, and Orbis won't have to be reinstalled (though it won't hurt if you do) when the list says to reinstall them. I simply place them at the bottom of the "Patches" section.
Lux Via Patches - https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/116722

Lux Patches - https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/113002

Lux Orbis Patches - https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/114169

 

Much easier now, but a fucking nightmare for like a month after it was up. I can also provide my load order and plugin order in case I'm forgetting something (someone please correct me if I am).

[hhh7775]

Coming back to update once more, seems like it was the Sexlab Frame Plus Patch causing all the issues with my sexlab animations not firing. 

For anyone else who runs into this issue, it looks like the version that is actually on Loverslab here, the latest one, isn't compatible with the latest Skyrim Update. However, and I haven't exactly checked for myself, but there does seem to be a version on the creators Discord Server that may work, and is also being made to replace SLAL in the long run.

Again, haven't really checked myself to see what all might be going on there as I haven't even visited the Discord server, but if you are on the latest Skyrim, using the latest Sexlab for it (Skyrim 1.6.1170 and Sexlab AE 166b) then the Plus version that is up there is likely going to cause you issues. It at least fixed my issues on a new save removing it, and it being the only notable change on my list beyond adding the SPID version of Weapon speed/multifix to try and repair NPC's in my world from having very slow attacks .

[Tiemphyx]

12 hours ago, wollboi said:

I'm running the list in 1.6.1170 and it's extremely stable. I put together a list of changes to get 1170 working:

 

Thanks for this, @wollboi; and it's really great to hear from @Aylis that she's feeling better.  Whatever happens with this amazing list, she's been sorely missed.

 

@wollboi , I'd like to ask what you'd suggest about the many removed files in World & Quests. in particular, the many Ancient Dwemer Metal patches by Xtudo.  I'm in the middle of a clean 1170 build (that has gone smoothly so far), but I haven't found a reference here or on nexus for those files or substitutes.

 

Thanks to all here for helping keep this great project as current as Bethesda and circumstances have allowed.

[Tiemphyx]

***  Never Mind  ***  It seems at least some of them have moved to unsupported archives...does anyone know of specific files that can't be found?

I've been away for several years due to my own rl issues, apologies for being a bit slow on the uptake.

[wollboi]

15 hours ago, hhh7775 said:

Coming back to update once more, seems like it was the Sexlab Frame Plus Patch causing all the issues with my sexlab animations not firing. 

For anyone else who runs into this issue, it looks like the version that is actually on Loverslab here, the latest one, isn't compatible with the latest Skyrim Update. However, and I haven't exactly checked for myself, but there does seem to be a version on the creators Discord Server that may work, and is also being made to replace SLAL in the long run.

Again, haven't really checked myself to see what all might be going on there as I haven't even visited the Discord server, but if you are on the latest Skyrim, using the latest Sexlab for it (Skyrim 1.6.1170 and Sexlab AE 166b) then the Plus version that is up there is likely going to cause you issues. It at least fixed my issues on a new save removing it, and it being the only notable change on my list beyond adding the SPID version of Weapon speed/multifix to try and repair NPC's in my world from having very slow attacks .

I'm running 166b and PPlus with no issues on 1170. The only problem I've had with any SL mod post-1130 is with SLEN locking controls after a sex scene concludes, but turning off the auto-free-camera mode in SL fixed that.

[monkinsane]

23 hours ago, hhh7775 said:

Back again, this time with a different issue though. Can't get Sexlab animations to play at all. Whenever a mod would play one, like defeat, it just skips over it like it happened/didn't happen. If my character does the submit option, I just get locked into a pose of fearfully submitting as the npc ai returns to whatever it was doing.

Tried downloading matchmaker just to test, and always get back an issue of spells fizzling on npcs and myself.

Any idea what might possibly be causing this? All other animations through OAR and such seem to be working fine, and unsure of what might be causing animations to just not play. Did download some other mods like SD+ (Sanguines Debauchery) and Devious DEvices, and while the latter works and both can put me into bondage situations/animations, no sex animations play for the former at all either.

If SL Animations dont play at all - make sure you've enabled Sexlab And Enabled & Registered the Animations in SL Anim Loader.  You did install the animation packs and ran FNIS + Nemesis right?

I also suggest using Acheron + Practical Defeat (and it's addons)  instead of Defeat - I had endless issues with Defeat. Practical Defeat works much more reliably. 

I haven't used SD in SE so can't comment on that - but I use Simple Slavery + SLUTS + Devious Folllowers as practical defeat possible outcomes.

Edited April 26, 2024 by monkinsane

[Tiemphyx]

1 hour ago, wollboi said:

I'm running 166b and PPlus with no issues on 1170. The only problem I've had with any SL mod post-1130 is with SLEN locking controls after a sex scene concludes, but turning off the auto-free-camera mode in SL fixed that.

 

Are you also running other SL mods beyond those on the list? 

Edited April 26, 2024 by Temphyx

[misterpipes]

2 minutes ago, Temphyx said:

Are you able to run any SL mods beyond those on the list?

*looks at the 30 odd SL mods (not counting extra SLAL packs), ranging from ancient LE edition mods to latest, greatest NG mods,  he's running that aren't in this list* Yes.

 

My recommendation is to make a new separator after Sex Mod and before World as the place to place any extra mods SL you add.

[Tiemphyx]

Excellent, thanks for the tip!  You wouldn't happen to have the notorious SLSO working, would you?

Edited April 26, 2024 by Temphyx

[misterpipes]

No, sorry. I decided I didn't want a minigame in my sex scenes.

[wollboi]

1 hour ago, Temphyx said:

 

Are you also running other SL mods beyond those on the list? 

 

My SL mods are:

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* Sexlab Framework AE v166b

* Sexlab Framework PPlus

* Sexlab Aroused NG

* SLAC v0.3.0b

* SLEN Rev2

* SLEN NPC's 1.0.0 Voice Files

* You Don't Need a Break

* Slavetats

* SLAL SE

* Creature Framework v3.1

* MNC v15.4

* Aroused Creatures v4.12

* SLAC Generated Voice Pack v.4.10

* BakaFactory ABC v2.9

* Goat HD

* MNC Husky

* Ria DAR v1.2.13

* SLAC DAR Invites (all three)

* Dripping When Aroused

* Billy's SLAL Animations 7.2

* NCK30 SLAL 3.9

* FlufyFox SLAL Human/Creature

* BakaFactory's SLAL Pack 6.01

* Lord Anims

* 3jiou SE

* SLAL Animations by Leito v1.6

* K4 Anims 1.5

* Anub C/H/F

* SLAL mike24 Animations

* SL Ayasato Animations 1.1

* HCOS v2.1a

* Milky SLAL

* SLAL Nibbles Animas 5.52

* Psyche Animation 1.1.9V

* SLAL Creature Animations by Sailing Rebel

* Zaz 7.0-Rev1

* Patched SL Tools Updated

* Werewolf Eyetracking Behavior for MFA

* Sexlab Werewolves Redux V1.6

* TWO

* Shadowman's NPC 21 - Camilla's Bath

* Wet Function Redux 1.0

* Wet Function 1.0 CBBE Textures

* Wet Function Redux Male

* TRX Futa Addon Canine

* Sexlab Ammo Unequip v1.02

Dunno if it helps, but there it be.

[Tiemphyx]

Thanks, guys.

[hhh7775]

11 hours ago, monkinsane said:

If SL Animations dont play at all - make sure you've enabled Sexlab And Enabled & Registered the Animations in SL Anim Loader.  You did install the animation packs and ran FNIS + Nemesis right?

I also suggest using Acheron + Practical Defeat (and it's addons)  instead of Defeat - I had endless issues with Defeat. Practical Defeat works much more reliably. 

I haven't used SD in SE so can't comment on that - but I use Simple Slavery + SLUTS + Devious Folllowers as practical defeat possible outcomes.

I did manage to get things working just fine ultimately, so no real worries there. For me at least it was just, for some reason, the Plus Patch causing Sexlab to, well, simply not work in the load order I had. Didn't know there was a new defeat system (last time I checked at all I think Yamete Kudasai was pretty early on as a combat/defeat sex alternative of sorts, but I'll definitely have to look into both of those as Defeat in the past has always had some level of jank to it, even if I've never had *major* issues with it. Just looking over the page for practical defeat as well, and it seems overall more compatible with less issues for the mods I enjoy (Simple Slavery, SD, Devious Followers), so that's a big plus, though I have managed to make Defeat + SD work fine over all together so far, even if SD is definitely suffering from jank on the current patch.

But yeah, FNIS+Nemesis and all on the original attempt, did pretty much everything I've always done for previous installs in past years, only thing that seemed to throw a bone was the Plus Patch.

 

 

12 hours ago, wollboi said:

I'm running 166b and PPlus with no issues on 1170. The only problem I've had with any SL mod post-1130 is with SLEN locking controls after a sex scene concludes, but turning off the auto-free-camera mode in SL fixed that.

Speaking of which, just seems like I might have to try and mess with my load order to see if I can't get Plus working in the future, since it seems way better overall then the latest Sexlab on its own. Still not really sure why it even caused issues in the first place, all I know is uninstalling it then starting up a new save game I had no issues with sex animations triggering at all. 

Frankly, the biggest jank I'm suffering from is just Deviously Cursed Loot, or maybe DD itself having some serious jank. Playable and not really causing issues, but its seemingly just ignoring some of my MCM settings at times, not something I've seen happen with any other mod yet. But, either way, good to hear that the mods are all more or less fine and it was likely just something on my end causing a hiccup, at least considering the large list of mods you posted all functioning.

Probably just gonna continue enjoying the save I have right now for the weekend or so, then try a new save with some different mods to see how it all functions together with the likes of Acheron + Practical defeat.

[misterpipes]

3 hours ago, hhh7775 said:

the Plus Patch causing Sexlab to, well, simply not work in the load order I had.

I also had issues with P+. Enough that I don't use it. There are some mods that try to start SL scenes in weird ways that P+ doesn't support. I've been caught out by a few as well. With out those mods being rewritten, they are (probably) never going to work with P+.

On the defeat front, I've found Naked Defeat more reliable than Acheron + Practical Defeat, but last time I used Acheron + Practical Defeat was around the 1130 -> 1170 upgrade time, which might of had something to do with it. Still, Naked Defeat does what I want it to.

 

3 hours ago, hhh7775 said:

or maybe DD itself having some serious jank

In case you aren't aware, there is a DD-NG now, which is a revamp patch for DD specifically for SE/AE, and has been pretty impressive so far.

 

[alaunus01]

On 4/23/2024 at 2:56 PM, Aylis said:

Still alive...

 

Had some 'fun' the last few months:

Blood poisening 

Infected wound

necrotic tissue

and more...

 

5 months hospital (9 OP) - 1 month REHA (had to relearn to walk).

Welcome black. Glad you made it.

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Todd gifted you a completely broken Fallout. 😁

Take it easy.

[Tiemphyx]

Puzzled:

What's the story on the link : Breton NPCs Have Elven Ears - RBT Patch ?

Somehow, I'm not seeing this fomod file, just the main installer - maybe just need to sleep...

Also, Female Skin RBT is a link to BnP which only shares a patch with RSV on the Breton Ears page.  Are RBT and RSV the same here?

Edited April 27, 2024 by Temphyx
elucidation

[TicTox]

Hi, I just wanted to leave some feedback regarding the Pine Grass mod in conjunction with the Terrain Parallax Blending Fix.

Not installing the High Poly Green Grass Update Addon alongside your Pine Grass of choice from the Pine Grass' Main Files section led to an infinite loading screen for the main menu for me.
Had to disable everything and re-enable mods in chunks to find out that Terrain Parallax Blending Fix was causing it and then another good bit of searching through the comments over there with some trial and error to figure out that you actually need the High Poly Green Grass Update Addon as well.

 

If it's not too much to ask I would like to see that requirement added to the list of mods, just so other people who are as dumb and me and don't look closely enough at the mods they download can avoid this problem in the future

[hhh7775]

8 hours ago, misterpipes said:

I also had issues with P+. Enough that I don't use it. There are some mods that try to start SL scenes in weird ways that P+ doesn't support. I've been caught out by a few as well. With out those mods being rewritten, they are (probably) never going to work with P+.

On the defeat front, I've found Naked Defeat more reliable than Acheron + Practical Defeat, but last time I used Acheron + Practical Defeat was around the 1130 -> 1170 upgrade time, which might of had something to do with it. Still, Naked Defeat does what I want it to.

 

In case you aren't aware, there is a DD-NG now, which is a revamp patch for DD specifically for SE/AE, and has been pretty impressive so far.

 

Any mods in particular that you know of which don't work well with Selah Plus? I actually managed to get it working, decided to make a new profile on MO2 and a new save to test other mods and gave it at try out of curiosity. Hopefully it works well with the mods I've got all set up currently for it, but I won't be against disabling it again if I have to. Animations do definitely fire MUCH quicker with it though which is pretty nice.

 

As for DD-NG, I did discover it for what I'm messing with now. Will see how it handles now compared to before, and decided to disable Cursed Loot since I wasn't really using it much before anyways. Haven't ever used Naked Defeat either, but will look into it if Practical Defeat doesn't function too well. For now I'm just messing with SL Survival + Wartimes to see how functional it all is these days.

[hardcoremanuel]

3 hours ago, TicTox said:

Hi, I just wanted to leave some feedback regarding the Pine Grass mod in conjunction with the Terrain Parallax Blending Fix.

Not installing the High Poly Green Grass Update Addon alongside your Pine Grass of choice from the Pine Grass' Main Files section led to an infinite loading screen for the main menu for me.
Had to disable everything and re-enable mods in chunks to find out that Terrain Parallax Blending Fix was causing it and then another good bit of searching through the comments over there with some trial and error to figure out that you actually need the High Poly Green Grass Update Addon as well.

 

If it's not too much to ask I would like to see that requirement added to the list of mods, just so other people who are as dumb and me and don't look closely enough at the mods they download can avoid this problem in the future

Terrain Parallax Blending Fix is kind of a mess right now. I would suggest using version 2.0.8 under "Old Files" for now.

[wollboi]

@alaunus01 Oh god, I was going to mess with it again today. Updated all my mods, went to start it, realized silly me I need a new f4se. Go to the page, click download ... that's weird, it's the same one I downloaded like six months ago. Go check the Nexus page and oh jesus todd why todd why

[BlackCarl]

I got everything setup and working, thank you so much OP and to all the commenters.   I'm having one issue that I just cannot figure out and the searching in the world leads to "texture issue"  which i know but which one. 

 

Some of my NPCs have the purple missing texture arms mostly male it seems but some females rarely.  I would say maybe 30% or less of males and the very rare female.  Also the very rare ear coming in purple as well.  I cant seem to find a current theme.  I thought it was all male but then found some women.  I thought it was dark skin but found some light skin. It is most noticeable hands and below the neck area.  Faces are fine and armor is fine so it seems like a skin issue.  When disrobing the NPC the whole body other than the head is purple. 

 

I did install this over 3 days and i must have missed something or skipped passed a FOMOD box or something.  Any help would be appreciated.  I did look in the console and click but IDK how to interpret 070707F and theyre never the same numbers between NPCs.   

[KCOLL]

purple usually means texture is missing so it might be the body needs to be redone in body slide  or a piece of armor is missing its texture and needs to be redone another possibility is the file you used to build in body slide is corrupt or missing textures. Also possible missing requirements? Some like Dx druid armor were built using an older body type and if you want a 3bbb body you have to have original and the 3bbb conversion.

[BlackCarl]

1 hour ago, KCOLL said:

purple usually means texture is missing so it might be the body needs to be redone in body slide  or a piece of armor is missing its texture and needs to be redone another possibility is the file you used to build in body slide is corrupt or missing textures. Also possible missing requirements? Some like Dx druid armor were built using an older body type and if you want a 3bbb body you have to have original and the 3bbb conversion.

I'm not really sure.  I've been at it a few more hours now and wandering around in game.  I went to the College and there's purple people everywhere.  Looks like it is fairly common in non-human with some humans also.  It is definitely feels like a skin texture issue as all equipment is showing up in game properly.  Some people at the college actually had purple faces too. 

 

I was going to just play it with the occasional purple hand here and there but getting full purple characters at the college is a fat GG. 

 

I rebuilt arms and hands.  Clothed and naked.  I rebuilt male and female clothed and naked.  Nothing is fixing it. 

 

Anyways, seriously crazy work OP I cant believe someone took all the time to get it working and list in order then help people that needed it.   Insane work, well done. 

[Varithina]

3 hours ago, KCOLL said:

purple usually means texture is missing so it might be the body needs to be redone in body slide  or a piece of armor is missing its texture and needs to be redone another possibility is the file you used to build in body slide is corrupt or missing textures. Also possible missing requirements? Some like Dx druid armor were built using an older body type and if you want a 3bbb body you have to have original and the 3bbb conversion.

 

Possibly missing or not registering tattoos or warpaint as well, they can both do the same thing.