Bimbos Of Skyrim LE/SE

[xAmaranthia]

I'd like to suggest integrating SexLab's perversion stat to corruption build-up. I feel like sexual deviant -> debaucherous -> nymphomaniac -> bimbo is a natural progression, and it would provide a way for more consensual-oriented playthroughs to produce bimbos.

 

Could as simple as checking if the player has max perversion, then making all sex increase corruption.

[dreamyardthrowaway]

I may be stupid, but after updating to 1.6.2 on SSE with the 1.6.1 SSE patch, BoS doesn't show up in the MCM. Is anyone else having this happen?

[ClockworkCookies]

just one question: will there be voice-addon later for this mod? This kind of mod will be perfect with voice add-on

[jib_buttkiss]

56 minutes ago, xAmaranthia said:

I'd like to suggest integrating SexLab's perversion stat to corruption build-up. I feel like sexual deviant -> debaucherous -> nymphomaniac -> bimbo is a natural progression, and it would provide a way for more consensual-oriented playthroughs to produce bimbos.

 

Could as simple as checking if the player has max perversion, then making all sex increase corruption.

 

Oh, I do like that idea. The mod actually used to use only SL perversion for bimbofication but I found that it was so unreliable I replaced it with the corruption system. But I reckon it'll be well-behaved enough to handle having the player be more susceptible to corruption if a they're a nympho.

 

I was also looking into making slutty clothes slowly add corruption to the player when you wear then, so that would help in consensual-oriented games too.

 

39 minutes ago, dreamyardthrowaway said:

I may be stupid, but after updating to 1.6.2 on SSE with the 1.6.1 SSE patch, BoS doesn't show up in the MCM. Is anyone else having this happen?

 

That's standard Skyrim jank, unfortunately. You can try reverting to an older save to see if it appears there, down- then up-grading again, restarting MCM itself with "setstage SKI_ConfigManagerInstance 1" in the console (though I find that can reset some settings? Not sure), or, worst-case scenario, removing and re-installing them mod completely (which will of course fuck other parts of it up).

 

10 minutes ago, ClockworkCookies said:

just one question: will there be voice-addon later for this mod? This kind of mod will be perfect with voice add-on

 

I'd love to, but unfortunately it's a just a hard mod to do a good voice gen for. There's a lot of "*giggle*" in the lines that the voice generators just read out as the word "giggle" and, as far as I know, even if you remove those there's no way to generate actual giggling sounds to replace them. Also, the fact that a lot of the lines can be said by almost any voice type inflates the file size quite a lot.

 

Someone actually did make one for the previous version, but the discussion in it's forum thread made it sound like it was, let's say... not great. Mostly because of those issues I mentioned, I think.

[CornyRabbit696]

Not sure if its a bug because I used an old 1.5x save on 1.62 with the bimbo skill loss system.

 

Just talking to Lyli battleborn and showing her my boobs causes repeatable skill drain each time i do it, without any sex. This was after completing quest for her panties and with her not a bimbo.

Edited July 6, 2023 by CornyRabbit696

[Saviorsrd]

Hmm...back on the topic of malicious mind-controlling NPCs, I think a solution to the problem of not really wanting it to be a slavery system is to write it more like the guy in Riften.  The hypnotists (outside of one or two with a soft integration into another slavery mod such as one who starts the Submissive Lola conversation) are just interested in a good time at the player's immediate and long-term (in the form of corruption for going along with them) expense. 

 

As an example, a guy in, say, the Frozen Hearth who spends most evenings sitting at the bar and, if you chat him up and don't notice the conversation options are slowly leading you into a relaxed, open, suggestible state, tells you to go dress in slutty clothes and puts an entry in your journal with a short (hidden) timer that will fail the 'quest' if you don't, if you do it he 'suggests' that you really really like it (and him) and after the sex, you get a spell effect borrowed from the full Bimbo curse for a day or so that enforces slutty clothing or penalties.  (Which would work well with the planned feature to increase corruption for wearing slutty clothes.)

 

Then if you try to confront him about it, he just repeats the suggestion and the penalty returns.  Oh, and he's Essential now because he told you you can't hurt him and you can't.

[Balgin]

You might have another issue with aliases not filling. Sometimes, during the final Lyli & Morella quest, Lyli doesn't begin to read outloud and Morella starts getting out of the chair then sits back down again. When she eventually goes outside and the quest completion conversation is finished, her new conversation topics about becoming a follower and relationships don't appear.

[jib_buttkiss]

1 hour ago, CornyRabbit696 said:

Not sure if its a bug because I used an old 1.5x save on 1.62 with the bimbo skill loss system.

 

Just talking to Lyli battleborn and showing her my boobs causes repeatable skill drain each time i do it, without any sex. This was after completing quest for her panties and with her not a bimbo.

 

 

That dialogue's not from Lyli- it's from you being a bimbo. Going up to strangers and flashing your huge boobs at them feels good, doesn't it? Feels like you're doing what you were made for... Like you're giving in to your new purpose, your old mind draining away... *giggle*

 

But in all seriousness, that [flash your boobs] dialogue now triggers some skill drain when you say it, because it's your character giving in to her bimbo desires, embracing her new persona. If the dialogue's an option and you're not a bimbo, something's up and I'll have to fix it.

 

53 minutes ago, Saviorsrd said:

Hmm...back on the topic of malicious mind-controlling NPCs, I think a solution to the problem of not really wanting it to be a slavery system is to write it more like the guy in Riften.  The hypnotists (outside of one or two with a soft integration into another slavery mod such as one who starts the Submissive Lola conversation) are just interested in a good time at the player's immediate and long-term (in the form of corruption for going along with them) expense. 

 

As an example, a guy in, say, the Frozen Hearth who spends most evenings sitting at the bar and, if you chat him up and don't notice the conversation options are slowly leading you into a relaxed, open, suggestible state, tells you to go dress in slutty clothes and puts an entry in your journal with a short (hidden) timer that will fail the 'quest' if you don't, if you do it he 'suggests' that you really really like it (and him) and after the sex, you get a spell effect borrowed from the full Bimbo curse for a day or so that enforces slutty clothing or penalties.  (Which would work well with the planned feature to increase corruption for wearing slutty clothes.)

 

Then if you try to confront him about it, he just repeats the suggestion and the penalty returns.  Oh, and he's Essential now because he told you you can't hurt him and you can't.

 

Yeah, if I do end up doing more with the mind-controlled PC concept, it'll probably look quite a lot like this.

 

But the biggest issue with the concept is how figuring how it interacts with the other PC-controlling things- for example, Lyvelia's quest pauses some parts of the bimbo curse, but which takes precedence, Lyvelia's slutmark or the subtle conditioning from the guy in the Frozen Hearth? I mean, it's not like it's some unsolvable dilemma or anything, but it's just convoluted enough to make me hesitant about wanting to work on it.

 

15 minutes ago, Balgin said:

You might have another issue with aliases not filling. Sometimes, during the final Lyli & Morella quest, Lyli doesn't begin to read outloud and Morella starts getting out of the chair then sits back down again. When she eventually goes outside and the quest completion conversation is finished, her new conversation topics about becoming a follower and relationships don't appear.

Hmm, that one actually doesn't sound like an alias fill issue as much- if an alias fails to fill, the quest will never interact with the intended object. Both Lyli and Morella showed up in the room, so they must have both been in their aliases. But you could do an sqv CC_ChildishGames_5 to check.

[Balgin]

44 minutes ago, jib_buttkiss said:

Hmm, that one actually doesn't sound like an alias fill issue as much- if an alias fails to fill, the quest will never interact with the intended object. Both Lyli and Morella showed up in the room, so they must have both been in their aliases. But you could do an sqv CC_ChildishGames_5 to check.

I didn't save after this one so I can check stuff....

 

It seems there might be a problem with stage 53 or 55. Additionally, when I get outside, after I've finished speaking to Morella - if I run and catch up with her to speak to her again immediately then the encourage & deny options for the book are available then flash out of existence as the conversation refreshes without them. her entire conversation seems to be gone (the only remaining options are from other mods). It doesn't seem to be save file specific. I've just tried it on an old save that worked previously and now Lyli doesn't read outloud from the book any more. Morella is "busy" and Lyli cannot be interacted with either.

Edited July 6, 2023 by Balgin

[terrorofmorrowind]

Have you thought about looking into SPID? Might make things like adding outfits and hair styles easier.

[Naps-On-Dirt]

I've been tweaking my body settings to try to get them just right, and I think that the Pushup slider isn't actually doing anything.

 

Oh wait, no I'm wrong.  I'm on LE, but it is acting as an inverse slider.  Need a negative number to push 'up'.

Edited July 6, 2023 by Naps-On-Dirt

[terrorofmorrowind]

Decided to share my bodypresets for SE. Tho depending on your default bodyslide settings, it might be a bit too big on the tittage size. I would change it to -0.5 and 0.5 respectively for breast scale and small breast scale respectively. SH and SSH do not work in SE unfortunately. Not really mods fault, they got changed in SE version. But yeah as you can see. pushup is also inverted for whatever reason. So you need to put it to positive if you want less pushup (so yeah same issues as Naps-On-Dirt has). Hips scale doesn't seem to work for me.

Edited July 6, 2023 by terrorofmorrowind

[Naps-On-Dirt]

22 minutes ago, terrorofmorrowind said:

Decided to share my bodypresets for SE. Tho depending on your default bodyslide settings, it might be a bit too big on the tittage size. I would change it to -0.5 and 0.5 respectively for breast scale and small breast scale respectively. SH and SSH do not work in SE unfortunately. Not really mods fault, they got changed in SE version. But yeah as you can see. pushup is also inverted for whatever reason. So you need to put it to positive if you want less pushup (so yeah same issues as Naps-On-Dirt has). Hips scale doesn't seem to work for me.

Include a screenshot of the final result.    

[ClockworkCookies]

11 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

 

 

 

I'd love to, but unfortunately it's a just a hard mod to do a good voice gen for. There's a lot of "*giggle*" in the lines that the voice generators just read out as the word "giggle" and, as far as I know, even if you remove those there's no way to generate actual giggling sounds to replace them. Also, the fact that a lot of the lines can be said by almost any voice type inflates the file size quite a lot.

 

Someone actually did make one for the previous version, but the discussion in it's forum thread made it sound like it was, let's say... not great. Mostly because of those issues I mentioned, I think.

It's understandable. 

I am still curious for what are the future plans for this mod. And will there be an integration with Paradise Halls ? All the dialogues about them calling me master made me feel odd that she's not in the ranks with my other slaves.

 

[Saviorsrd]

7 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

But the biggest issue with the concept is how figuring how it interacts with the other PC-controlling things- for example, Lyvelia's quest pauses some parts of the bimbo curse, but which takes precedence, Lyvelia's slutmark or the subtle conditioning from the guy in the Frozen Hearth? I mean, it's not like it's some unsolvable dilemma or anything, but it's just convoluted enough to make me hesitant about wanting to work on it.

 

 

Well, how *I* would write it is that, since this guy's overall goal is to increase the number of Bimbos in Skyrim so he's got more easy free lovin' (or possibly he genuinely thinks women are happier as blonde mindbroken sluts, or whatever) he just checks for Bimbo and triggers an alternate dialogue for sex if you're already converted.  Hypnotic or just being a natural 'bimbo whisperer.'

 

Which gives an interesting gameplay element to these NPCs, since once you *are* a Bimbo you could use them for your daily nookie to prevent dialogue interruptions reliably.  But by identifying them, you also accelerate your need for their 'helpful service'.

[jib_buttkiss]

10 hours ago, Balgin said:

I didn't save after this one so I can check stuff....

 

It seems there might be a problem with stage 53 or 55. Additionally, when I get outside, after I've finished speaking to Morella - if I run and catch up with her to speak to her again immediately then the encourage & deny options for the book are available then flash out of existence as the conversation refreshes without them. her entire conversation seems to be gone (the only remaining options are from other mods). It doesn't seem to be save file specific. I've just tried it on an old save that worked previously and now Lyli doesn't read outloud from the book any more. Morella is "busy" and Lyli cannot be interacted with either.

The "busy" notification means that the actor is stuck in a scene (the brainwashing is one), but I don't know why it'd be getting stuck like that. To be honest, at this point I'm (rather selfishly!) guessing that it's a problem with your setup somehow rather than the mod anyway- surely someone else would have mentioned by now if they were having the same sort of problems.

 

10 hours ago, terrorofmorrowind said:

Have you thought about looking into SPID? Might make things like adding outfits and hair styles easier.

Eh, I looked at it, but I don't really have anything I need it for, so I'd just be adding an unnecessary dependency for (my) convenience. If something comes up that I'm super keen for but really needs SPID, I'm open to using it.

 

10 hours ago, Naps-On-Dirt said:

I've been tweaking my body settings to try to get them just right, and I think that the Pushup slider isn't actually doing anything.

 

Oh wait, no I'm wrong.  I'm on LE, but it is acting as an inverse slider.  Need a negative number to push 'up'.

9 hours ago, terrorofmorrowind said:

 SH and SSH do not work in SE unfortunately. Not really mods fault, they got changed in SE version. But yeah as you can see. pushup is also inverted for whatever reason. So you need to put it to positive if you want less pushup (so yeah same issues as Naps-On-Dirt has). Hips scale doesn't seem to work for me.

 

Oh, huh. I'll look at PushUp and Hips in the next update. Sounds like PushUp needs to be inverted and marked SE Inv. for consistency, and hopefully Hips is just a typo like BigButt was.

I'll add a note about SH and SSH, too, so people know they don't exist in SE (because I didn't).

 

5 hours ago, ClockworkCookies said:

It's understandable. 

I am still curious for what are the future plans for this mod. And will there be an integration with Paradise Halls ? All the dialogues about them calling me master made me feel odd that she's not in the ranks with my other slaves.

 

Future plans at this point are basically "more stuff". More quests, more NPCs, more bimbo dialogues and interactions. A bunch of little things, like I want to try and have bimbofied NPCs get re-named (Lyvelia -> Lyvvi sort of thing), and look into using Idle Markers and Scenes to make bimbos randomly do bimbo things in towns. I think the biggest change I have planned will be adding more depth to corruption reducing to gameify it a bit more, and make it so that you can reduce NPC corruption too. But you never know what'll come up and get my attention to work on...

 

In regard to Paradise Halls: nope. It's just not a mod I've got any interest in at all. That said, if someone else wants to make an integration patch, they're more than welcome.

[mdbd12]

My character is gaining corruption fine, as are any NPCs I have read the book, but I'm not sure if my followers are gaining any corruption when Defeat triggers. I'm getting the message "BoS corruption increased by 6to 0 for" with no listed NPC or anything following it. Is there a way to check the corruption of a given NPC to see if it's still adding? Am I missing something? 

 

Thanks!

[jib_buttkiss]

44 minutes ago, mdbd12 said:

My character is gaining corruption fine, as are any NPCs I have read the book, but I'm not sure if my followers are gaining any corruption when Defeat triggers. I'm getting the message "BoS corruption increased by 6to 0 for" with no listed NPC or anything following it. Is there a way to check the corruption of a given NPC to see if it's still adding? Am I missing something? 

 

Thanks!

 

At the moment, the way to check is to use the console- click on them and enter getFactionRank xx4DAFDA (where xx is the load order prefix for this mod). I'll add a proper way to check it in the next update.

[Balgin]

1 hour ago, jib_buttkiss said:

The "busy" notification means that the actor is stuck in a scene (the brainwashing is one), but I don't know why it'd be getting stuck like that. To be honest, at this point I'm (rather selfishly!) guessing that it's a problem with your setup somehow rather than the mod anyway- surely someone else would have mentioned by now if they were having the same sort of problems.

I'm hoping so too. However this scene played out perfectly before the latest mod update and it's getting stuck on old saves where it worked fine before too so it's not save file related. I don't know what's changed. I haven't changed my load order so the only thing was starting a new save (which might have then retroactively affected the old saves in some way). Hopefully the next mod update will fix it.

Edited July 7, 2023 by Balgin

[LinksSword]

is there suppose to be another quest for the childish games after finishing the 4th one? i ask because it's been close to a week in game and the courier still hasn't showed up, usually he shows up in a day or 2 and then i get another letter which continued that quest line. 

[Balgin]

2 hours ago, LinksSword said:

is there suppose to be another quest for the childish games after finishing the 4th one? i ask because it's been close to a week in game and the courier still hasn't showed up, usually he shows up in a day or 2 and then i get another letter which continued that quest line. 

Yes. There should be a fifth one. How are you waiting for him? Sometimes you need to leave the cell then return to it to trigger him (such as stepping into a building, waiting over night then going outside again). If you're just standing on the spot waiting with the T key or sleeping then you probably need to leave the area and return for him to come for you.

Edited July 7, 2023 by Balgin

[jib_buttkiss]

4 hours ago, LinksSword said:

is there suppose to be another quest for the childish games after finishing the 4th one? i ask because it's been close to a week in game and the courier still hasn't showed up, usually he shows up in a day or 2 and then i get another letter which continued that quest line. 

 

The delay between the 4th and 5th part is a bit longer than the others, 7 days. So if it's been almost a week he should show up soon.

The waits get a bit longer for each part of the quest- I'm remembering right it's 1, 2, 3, then 7 days.

 

Also yeah what Balgin said about not just lurking in one place, I use the base-game courier system and I'm pretty sure he's triggered by a cell change.

[mdbd12]

11 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

 

At the moment, the way to check is to use the console- click on them and enter getFactionRank xx4DAFDA (where xx is the load order prefix for this mod). I'll add a proper way to check it in the next update.

 

When I used this every character I checked had a score of -2.00, except for the ones I had read the book, who had 105. Not sure what would be causing that. For now I can just manually change the score though! 

[jib_buttkiss]

42 minutes ago, mdbd12 said:

 

When I used this every character I checked had a score of -2.00, except for the ones I had read the book, who had 105. Not sure what would be causing that. For now I can just manually change the score though! 

So, -2 means that the targeted NPC isn't in the faction at all- they get added to it the first time they gain corruption.

 

 

Huh. Looks like there's a typo in corruption gain for NPCs on rape. That's not great, that's the primary way for them to gain it. I'll double check that, and if I'm right there'll be a 1.6.3 in the next few days. I'd say it's a big enough issue to deserve a quick fix.

[terrorofmorrowind]

On 7/6/2023 at 4:53 PM, Naps-On-Dirt said:

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will do. Sorta started over. Installing dirtyborn was a mistake. ? (not saying mod is bad. It just didn't fit with the lore of my setup)
edit: Ok here's the settings again. First pic is my normal 100 weighted body. everything after that is what the sliders do. I also included the slider settings again for people whom are interested. This is on SE btw with the latest bimbo version. (might wanna tweak the booba down to -0.5 and 0.5 tho, really depends on your setup).

Edited July 7, 2023 by terrorofmorrowind