Incest Fetish

[RohZima]

10 minutes ago, Miauzi said:

you are not wrong - you are just "off the mark"

how do i explain that
Well - there are things that work e.g. for me (i.e. fetishes) - but not many people share them - so other fetishists do NOT

is that bad?
No - a psychologist (who treated me for "other" things) told me many years ago.
She said to me: "Child - be happy that you have more than just the "missionary position"...
..if all people were so simple, mankind would have died out long ago!"
So I'm happy to have an enriched sexuality through my fetishes - but that's why I don't envy other people's "special features" or portray them as "evil" - "deviant" or "perverted".

and so people share the "kink" of "sex between twin siblings" and others don't.

and for our constant outrage:
Anal sex between ADULT siblings isn't even illegal in D-Country!

 

I think history goes around in circles - people got sick of being pure & chaste and rebelled against Catholicism; nowhere more so than in Germany, though you still think it's uptight. Power is shared by different groups so it doesn't surprise me that it is pulling in different directions.

 

Eventually people will be tired of indulgence and will want to go back to being pure and innocent again. If you can get sick of being good you can get sick of being bad also.

 

It sounds like that psychologist wanted to have sex with you, bringing that up! Maybe she wanted doggy on the chair. Many of them are perverted people, I'm sure you know. 

[Mexicola88]

69 countries where being gay is illegal from 195 in total countries is 35.38% in total, that is not "most" countries...

 

Here a map where it's illegal.

 

 

But honestly i will stop posting in here, you just try to be a smartass.

[Miauzi]

Vor 5 Minuten sagte RohZima:

 

Ich denke, die Geschichte dreht sich im Kreis – die Menschen hatten es satt, rein und keusch zu sein, und rebellierten gegen den Katholizismus; nirgendwo mehr als in Deutschland, obwohl man immer noch denkt, dass es verkrampft ist. Die Macht wird von verschiedenen Gruppen geteilt, daher überrascht es mich nicht, dass sie in verschiedene Richtungen zieht.

 

Irgendwann werden die Menschen die Nachsicht satt haben und wieder rein und unschuldig sein wollen. Wenn man es satt hat, gut zu sein, kann man es auch satt haben, schlecht zu sein.

 

Es hört sich so an, als ob dieser Psychologe Sex mit dir haben wollte und das angesprochen hat! Vielleicht wollte sie Doggy auf dem Stuhl. Viele von ihnen sind perverse Menschen, ich bin sicher, Sie wissen es. 

 

nö - definitiv kein sexuelles Angebot ihrer seits - da hatte sie komplett andere eigene Präferenzen

?

 

nur mit fast 40 Jahren Berufserfahrung hatte sie vielleicht nur eine entwas entspanntere Sicht auf die Dinge des Lebens

[Mr. Otaku]

1 minute ago, Mexicola88 said:

69 countries where being gay is illegal from 195 in total countries is 35.38% in total, that is not "most" countries...

 

Here a map where it's illegal.

 

And that changes what exactly? 70 countries is still a lot of countries where it's illegal to be gay so it must illegal for a reason and therefore must be terrible by your logic. By population density alone more people in the world are living in areas where being gay is illegal than otherwise because most of the human population is converged in those areas so "most" people are affected by this.

 

Even when you're trying to argue back you can't refute my main argument, you really weren't prepared to be held accountable for your claims and it shows lmao.

 

5 minutes ago, Mexicola88 said:

But honestly i will stop posting in here, you just try to be a smartass.

 

Then maybe stop being a dumbass then? Posting stupid shit publicly and then whining about people correcting and refuting you by calling them "smartass" doesn't make you any less wrong. Next time stay in your lane and stay quiet about shit you don't understand.

[Miauzi]

Vor 5 Minuten sagte Mr. Otaku:

 

Und das ändert was genau? 70 Länder sind immer noch viele Länder, in denen es illegal ist, schwul zu sein, also muss es aus einem bestimmten Grund illegal sein und muss daher nach Ihrer Logik schrecklich sein. Allein durch die Bevölkerungsdichte leben mehr Menschen auf der Welt in Gebieten, in denen Schwulsein illegal ist, als sonst, weil der Großteil der menschlichen Bevölkerung in diesen Gebieten zusammenkommt, so dass „die meisten“ Menschen davon betroffen sind.

 

Selbst wenn Sie versuchen zu widersprechen, können Sie mein Hauptargument nicht widerlegen, Sie waren wirklich nicht bereit, für Ihre Behauptungen zur Rechenschaft gezogen zu werden, und das zeigt lmao.

 

 

Dann vielleicht aufhören, ein Dummkopf zu sein? Dummen Scheiß öffentlich zu posten und dann über Leute zu jammern, die dich korrigieren und widerlegen, indem sie sie „Klugscheißer“ nennen, macht dich nicht weniger falsch. Bleib das nächste Mal auf deiner Spur und schweige über Scheiße, die du nicht verstehst.

 

Illegal is only one aspect of oppression

if you look at a map in which homosexual people have fewer rights (e.g. marriage at the registry office) than heterosexual people - i.e. in which they are "second class people" - it looks even more blatant

[Mexicola88]

9 minutes ago, Mr. Otaku said:

 

And that changes what exactly? 70 countries is still a lot of countries where it's illegal to be gay so it must illegal for a reason and therefore must be terrible by your logic. By population density alone more people in the world are living in areas where being gay is illegal than otherwise because most of the human population is converged in those areas so "most" people are affected by this.

 

Even when you're trying to argue back you can't refute my main argument, you really weren't prepared to be held accountable for your claims and it shows lmao.

 

 

Then maybe stop being a dumbass then? Posting stupid shit publicly and then whining about people correcting and refuting you by calling them "smartass" doesn't make you any less wrong. Next time stay in your lane and stay quiet about shit you don't understand.

70 countries is not most, you made it look like it's illegal in 150 countries or something. Now what i corrected you too. But yeah fuck it.

[Mr. Otaku]

9 minutes ago, Miauzi said:

 

Illegal is only one aspect of oppression

if you look at a map in which homosexual people have fewer rights (e.g. marriage at the registry office) than heterosexual people - i.e. in which they are "second class people" - it looks even more blatant

 

Of course, i was just using his logic and talking points about "illegality therefore terrible" to show how stupid his chain of logic is.

Edited November 15, 2022 by Mr. Otaku
"Do you know the definition of a typo?" -Crazy Man With A Mohawk

[Mr. Otaku]

5 minutes ago, Mexicola88 said:

70 countries is not most, you made it look like it's illegal in 150 countries or something. Now what i corrected you too. But yeah fuck it.

 

You corrected me over a pedantic use of the word most, you didn't refute the fact that by your dumbass logic that still implies that being gay is terrible because it's illegal in 70 countries which is still a lot of countries where most human beings live due to higher population density in those areas therefore affecting more people.

 

You can't worm your way out of that buddy, no chance lmao.

Edited November 15, 2022 by Mr. Otaku
Ninja Edit

[Miauzi]

Vor 2 Minuten sagte Mr. Otaku:

 

Sie haben mich wegen einer pedantischen Verwendung des Wortes Most korrigiert, Sie haben nicht die Tatsache widerlegt, dass Sie mit Ihrer dummen Logik immer noch implizieren, dass es schrecklich ist, schwul zu sein, weil es in 70 Ländern illegal ist, was immer noch viele Länder sind, in denen die meisten Menschen leben Aufgrund der höheren Bevölkerungsdichte in diesen Gebieten sind daher mehr Menschen betroffen.

 

Du kannst dich nicht aus diesem Kumpel herausschlängeln, keine Chance, lmao.

if, instead of arguments, all that remains is simple indignation - then such statements will come about
Whole newspaper empires live from it - here in D-Land it is "Springer" with its "BILD" (the newspaper that always speaks first to the accident victim)

[Mr. Otaku]

1 minute ago, Miauzi said:

if, instead of arguments, all that remains is simple indignation - then such statements will come about
Whole newspaper empires live from it - here in D-Land it is "Springer" with its "BILD" (the newspaper that always speaks first to the accident victim)

 

I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to say but if you mean what i think you mean then, it's just a type of debate tactics i like to use when i spot these types of people casually making illogical claims. It's not a big deal, call it a litmus test for ideological integrity if you will.

[Miauzi]

Vor 17 Minuten sagte Herr Otaku:

 

Ich bin mir nicht ganz sicher, was Sie sagen wollen, aber wenn Sie meinen, was ich denke, dann ist das nur eine Art von Debattentaktik, die ich gerne anwende, wenn ich diese Art von Leuten sehe, die beiläufig unlogische Behauptungen aufstellen. Es ist keine große Sache, nennen Sie es einen Lackmustest für ideologische Integrität, wenn Sie so wollen.

no - my comparison with the "Springer" press was not related to you - sorry if I accidentally put it that way

rather it referred to the person who cannot rest - no matter how hollow the arguments are

[Mexicola88]

37 minutes ago, Mr. Otaku said:

 

I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to say but if you mean what i think you mean then, it's just a type of debate tactics i like to use when i spot these types of people casually making illogical claims. It's not a big deal, call it a litmus test for ideological integrity if you will.

You made the illogical claim...

 

also can't worm your way out of this.

 

35% of something is never most, NEVER.

Edited November 15, 2022 by Mexicola88

[Idyll]

12 minutes ago, Mexicola88 said:

You made the illogical claim...

 

also can't worm your way out of this.

 

35% of something is never most, NEVER.

 

Well I can argue at least one case it is most. ?

[Kyle Woohoo]

2 hours ago, Mexicola88 said:

Being gay isn't illegal in most countries, no idea how you come to that conclusion. Just because gay ppl can't marry everywhere, doesn't make it illegal there.

 

And i don't need to "win" an argument here or something, like i give a fuck about that.

 

Some things are forbidden and illegal for a reason, and i got nothing else to add to that topic other than that. Go celebrate your "victory" pff.

 

Just for your interest: the laws against incest are in many countries in fact only judging the "real" penetration of a vagina and giving birth between direct relatives. For example sex not involving any penetration is not really directly forbidden in most countries. And to me the bare existing of a law does not make something really bad as you argue. I am gay and I live in a country where even consensual sex between men was punished until the mid 70's. So really: what ever law exist - just because it's there it can not be the argument to judge sexual fantasies. (And the other way around: just because there is no law it doesn't mean that something is good)

 

Let me just stress just two points: first I agree with some others in this thread that you put things together which are not the same. I like incest fantasies between male relatives but just because I do this it does not mean that I support child porn, bestiality or amputations. Nobody here did.

 

Second: it's just fantasy. I am personally very aware that a real incest relationship between a father and son may not be healthy - always pre-defined it is a consensual relationship between adults (ALWAYS!). Although others might be interested to find real incest relationships at least for me it's just a hot thing in my fantasies. In reality I would be confused to see real family members interacting in a romantic or sexual way and I would ask myself how this can be good for them. So even if this might not be forbidden by law I see that is something difficult. But even here I think: as long as everybody involved is comfortable with the situation I wouldn't judge them. About bestiality: no way to accept this in reality as I suppose that no animal would like to have sex with a human if it's not forced to do so. But from my own inner debate about my incest fantasies I'd say: if people like these fantasies - why not? As long as they do not have sex with their dogs in real life - I don't understand this fetish but I don't need to understand everything. I even don't understand latex or rubber fetish

 

For me it would be interesting if you judge people who like thrillers, horror movies or true crime podcasts in the same way? It's forbidden to murder, to torture or to rob a bank but people like movies which show scenes and stories like that very explicit. And many movies of these kind don't follow the rule "the murderer or robber is the bad guy". Do you condemn them in the same way?

 

Edited November 15, 2022 by Kyle Woohoo

[Miauzi]

Vor 2 Stunden sagte Mexicola88:

Schwulsein ist in den meisten Ländern nicht illegal, keine Ahnung, wie man darauf kommt. Nur weil Schwule nicht überall heiraten können, ist es dort nicht illegal.

 

Und ich muss hier keinen Streit "gewinnen" oder so, als wäre mir das scheißegal.

 

Einige Dinge sind aus einem bestimmten Grund verboten und illegal, und ich habe diesem Thema nichts anderes hinzuzufügen als das. Geh und feiere deinen "Sieg" pff.

So you are perfectly fine with treating homosexual people as second-class people and denying them the most basic of human rights

on that level I refuse to exchange even one more word with you

 

und als Ergänzung

ich bin weiblich - lesbisch und mit meiner Frau VERHEIRATET - auch wenn das in meiner Heimat D-Land nur über Umwege möglich ist

Edited November 15, 2022 by Miauzi

[Mexicola88]

I didn't really judge what i mentioned because it's against the law ffs, i only meant that there is a reason it's against the law. You people here are so nitpicky it's unbelievable.

 

I am allowed to judge ppl that are into child pornography, incest, bestiality, amputation, this has nothing to do with kink shaming, these activites are really just sick. I wonder why i even have to underline this.

 

Yeah damn i wonder why i still post stuff here, you guys are clearly total sick fucks. You guys defend incest, i mean wtf. I got nothing against the "normal" usual bdsm stuff, even the more hardcore stuff, i got nothing against any of the 72 sexual identities that exist, because im pansexual myself, so im not judging that either. But i do judge the stuff that i listed multiple times already, because yeah it really is only FUCKED UP, to be into ANY of that.

 

Well i won't react to anything in here anymore, seriously fuck it. Go have fun with your incest fantasies.

[Kyle Woohoo]

53 minutes ago, Mexicola88 said:

I didn't really judge what i mentioned because it's against the law ffs, i only meant that there is a reason it's against the law. You people here are so nitpicky it's unbelievable.

 

I am allowed to judge ppl that are into child pornography, incest, bestiality, amputation, this has nothing to do with kink shaming, these activites are really just sick. I wonder why i even have to underline this.

 

Yeah damn i wonder why i still post stuff here, you guys are clearly total sick fucks. You guys defend incest, i mean wtf. I got nothing against the "normal" usual bdsm stuff, even the more hardcore stuff, i got nothing against any of the 72 sexual identities that exist, because im pansexual myself, so im not judging that either. But i do judge the stuff that i listed multiple times already, because yeah it really is only FUCKED UP, to be into ANY of that.

 

Well i won't react to anything in here anymore, seriously fuck it. Go have fun with your incest fantasies.

 

So you really have no problem with SM where people act as masters and slaves or put each others into torture machines? This is not fucked up to you, too??? Interesting, so my conclusion is that you think masters and slaves are totally natural relationships between human beings for you and there is nothing to say about when people torture each others (just a hint - there are laws against slavery and torture...)... For me in real life this is nothing acceptable neither but as a fantasy and sex pratice I would not judge somebody who likes that - although I absolutely cannot understand the sexual desire and I absolutely condemn people who treat others as real slaves or who torture others.

 

The only fucked up are you because you simply condemn people just because you cannot understand their sexual fantasies. And you simple mix up fantasies and reality.

[Guest]

> Incest, sodomy, homosexuality, lesbianism, zoophilia, and similar are ethically unaccepted by countries where Christianity as religion is deeply rooted in society and the morals of the people. It wasn't like that before those fake moral teachers and leaders became influential and who hiddenly did what they publicly judged and persecuted. As I said earlier, bestiality sex disgusts me, but I do not judge those who practice it. BDSM also disgusts me, but I do not judge those who practice it of their free will. I am bisexual and incestuous and I am not ashamed of it. Unfortunately, many people would rather justify and accept bestiality and BDSM as sex fantasies and practices, than incest in practice. The problem is that many people are the slaves of own beliefs and they expect, demand, and force others to be like them. I do not care who fucks whom, why, where, and how, as long as it is not against that person's will.

[Miauzi]

Vor 3 Stunden sagte Mexicola88:

Ich darf Personen beurteilen, die auf Kinderpornografie, Inzest, Sodomie, Amputation stehen, das hat nichts mit Kinkshaming zu tun, diese Aktivitäten sind wirklich nur krank. Ich frage mich, warum ich das überhaupt unterstreichen muss.

 

Ja, verdammt, ich frage mich, warum ich hier immer noch Sachen poste, ihr Jungs seid eindeutig total kranke Ficks. Ihr verteidigt Inzest, ich meine wtf. Ich habe nichts gegen das "normale" übliche BDSM-Zeug, sogar das mehr Hardcore-Zeug, ich habe nichts gegen eine der 72 sexuellen Identitäten, die es gibt, weil ich selbst pansexuell bin, also verurteile ich das auch nicht. Aber ich beurteile das Zeug, das ich schon mehrfach aufgelistet habe, denn ja, es ist wirklich nur FUCKED UP, auf IRGENDWELCHES davon zu stehen.
 

Then let me put it plainly here:

There is nobody here who likes such practices - you hear/read -> nobody

No user in this thread has admitted to liking such practices - you and only you accuse everyone of liking something like this if they don't assure you 1000 times that they don't like it either.

Sorry - you're acting like an absolutely disgusting moral apostle - posing as Grand Inquisitor
and
you condemn all those who are not for you as "kid fuckers" and much worse.

And you don't notice in your self-centered delusion - that you're driving yourself deeper and deeper into the shit.
With every text from you, a new facet of a vile character emerges - who is permanently "brushed to riot".

[Mr. Otaku]

8 hours ago, Mexicola88 said:

You made the illogical claim...

 

also can't worm your way out of this.

 

35% of something is never most, NEVER.

 

Yeah and that changes nothing, does your brain not work or are you just hanging on to that one word because you know you can't beat the underlying argument? Don't answer that question lmao.

 

 

^ This is you right now. Cope and seethe.

[Gukahn]

Looks like i missed the party o_o

Shit...

 

[Speed Metal]

1 minute ago, Gukahn said:

Looks like i missed the party

Typical.

[Gukahn]

2 minutes ago, Speed Metal said:

Typical.

?

[KoolHndLuke]

My mom once told me about a book she read called "Flowers in the Attic" and I was really surprised at how it completely changed her views on incest. She actually argued that- while she was still very opposed to it- that where love and affection was concerned, she considered it very understandable/natural. Now... for context, this woman was deeply religious, stubborn and very opposed and uncompromising about any form of sex other than that between a consenting man and woman. I guess my point here is to try to keep an open mind about things without the knee-jerk reaction. In my time here on LL, I have done this and learned a great many things about others and myself. Overall it has been enlightening. 

 

 

Edited November 15, 2022 by KoolHndLuke

[Idyll]

21 minutes ago, KoolHndLuke said:

My mom once told me about a book she read called "Flowers in the Attic" and I was really surprised at how it completely changed her views on incest. She actually argued that- while she was still very opposed to it- that where love and affection was concerned, she considered it very understandable/natural. Now... for context, this woman was deeply religious, stubborn and very opposed and uncompromising about any form of sex other than that between a consenting man and woman. I guess my point here is to try to keep an open mind about things without the knee-jerk reaction. In my time here on LL, I have done this and learned a great many things about others and myself. Overall it has been enlightening. 

 

How dare you have a completely fair disposition with hints of a case to case approach in a world were we often forget it's populated by people and not digits, how dare you make sense and think for yourself!

 

Burn 'em! Together with the same-blood breeding witches and their husband brother who loves her handicaped body that became this way due to an accident, how dare he develop a fetish over time to better handle the situation and make himself and his wife happier!

 

And their dog as well - it was it that began sexual motions at her handicaped, armless, legless, defenceless body but it's not burning on that account, it's burning on account of having "been fucked" by this lecherous, inbreeding filth whose sentiments were most likely an excuse to bring humanity down from the household out!

 

And so goes for any sympathiser or opposing opinions, not even deviants and heretics with neutral takes are sinless and so they are heretics and deviants - burn it, burn it, burn it all!

 

 

Edited November 15, 2022 by Idyll