Sexlab Submit 01SEP14 1133

[jukem]

I have turned on all of the features I can find that reference having rape active but it won't work.  If I use the submit key (and it is successful), I see the submission attack and they just hunch over saying there is no reason to get violent.  I then have an option to pickpocket them but that's it.  No rape animation.  I also remember that on my previous install of Skyrim, the inventory would automatically popup and it wouldn't list their items with the red hand so it wouldn't be counted as stealing.  But for some reason, that's all that happens now.  Just the hunch over.  I even tried placing this mod at the very bottom of my load order but it still isn't working.

[dkatryl]

The smack/shout/etc is just a means to drop combat.  You then talk to them with dialog in order to do whatever it is you want to do.

[nutluck]

Ok I got the bug where it would not let you untie yourself. It would just ever 5 seconds or so say

 

you might have been noticed, x%, you rolled x%

 

thats it, I let it run for 20 mins to see and it just keep doing that.

 

Now the one thing I will note is I was sneaking when i surrendered to the bandit and was still seeing the stealth icon even when tied up. Perhaps that could be the cause? I tried it once early and it worked just fine but I wasn't sneaking then. i will try again on both sneaking and not sneaking and see if it repeats. This is a new game just to test things out just FYI.

[ttpt]

In the creature surrender feature, were giants moved up to level 1? because in the MCM menu they still show up in the list for level 2 along with dragons and bears and whatnot, Maybe the MCM menu just hasn't  been updated.

[nutluck]

Ok I checked it again, not stealthed and it worked fine. If i was crouched in stealth it is doing the same thing, not giving a untie chance. Which is weird I don't see how that could have anything to do with anything.

[dkatryl]

In the creature surrender feature, were giants moved up to level 1? because in the MCM menu they still show up in the list for level 2 along with dragons and bears and whatnot, Maybe the MCM menu just hasn't  been updated.

Yeah, apparently the MCM is a wee out of date.

[dkatryl]

Ok I checked it again, not stealthed and it worked fine. If i was crouched in stealth it is doing the same thing, not giving a untie chance. Which is weird I don't see how that could have anything to do with anything.

Interesting!  I know exactly why it's happening (It's trying to do the Ambush given that you are in stealth) so I apparently need to add a provision to make sure you leave stealth upon surrendering.

[nutluck]

Ah ok, that makes sense then. So yeah it seems if you are crouching before tied up, it puts you into crouching stealth again after you are tied up. Huh, I didn't see how it could matter but now that you pointed out why it could cause it, it makes sense.

[dkatryl]

Ah ok, that makes sense then. So yeah it seems if you are crouching before tied up, it puts you into crouching stealth again after you are tied up. Huh, I didn't see how it could matter but now that you pointed out why it could cause it, it makes sense.

Remember, the hotkey, depending on the conditions, will do one of the following:

• Shout
• Vampire Shout
• Werewolf Shout
• Vampire Lord Shout
• Grapple
• Ambush
• Surrender
• Draw Weapon
• Escape Attempt
• Abort Current Sex Scene

So, one button, potentially 10 different outcomes, determined by MCM selections, weapon sheathed or not, sneaking, vamp/werewolf conditions, etc.

 

So, yep, I wasn't quite sure what to make of the first post, but by the second post, you said the key words (worked when standing, didn't work when sneaking) and I knew exactly what was happening.

[nutluck]

Well glad I was able to help you find the bug then.

 

I tend to play sneaky characters so I start all fights in stealth and sometimes forget to stop crouching during the fight.

[jukem]

The smack/shout/etc is just a means to drop combat.  You then talk to them with dialog in order to do whatever it is you want to do.

 

When I try talking to them afterward, I get the "You know..." from UFO, "Let's talk about your stats." from the Luxury Suite, and "Hold up a moment.  There is something I want to discuss with you." from the consensual sex option.  No option to strip, rob, or rape.

[trex]

I'm getting no sex scene after surrender. I get the beat down animation, I fall down...and then everyone turns non-aggressive and walks off. I started a new game with submit 22DEC & 1.30 framework. I also have submit at the end of the LO with a bashed patch (all SL mods are post-bash patch).

[sikamikanico78]

You are getting undressed of everything 100% no mattter waht strip option u have on Sexlab... why??

[Coopervane]

I'm glad to see more people getting involved with finding any remaining bugs, but without any logs to accompany these error reports, It's going to be of rather limited value i'm afraid.

 

The error reports showing up in the Papyrus log is one of the best tools for finding and solving problems. Sadly though, dkatryl is not able to generate any logs of his own (it's a wierd Skyrim bug that seems to hit a few people, and we've already gone through 4 pages of everyone offering suggestions on how to fix it, none of it has worked), and without that information it's going to be difficult for him to find and solve the problems that might still exist.

 

Enabling logging is not difficult, it will help greatly, and make your bug report 10 times more likely to get fixed.

If you don't know how to enable logging, read the spoiler below:

 

 

 

Find your Skyrim.ini file in .../My Games/Skyrim/ and scroll down till you see the [Papyrus] entry, then make sure it reads like this (just copy/paste if need be):

 

[Papyrus]

fUpdateBudgetMS=1.2

fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=1.2

fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0

iMinMemoryPageSize=128

iMaxMemoryPageSize=512

iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=76800

bEnableLogging=1

bEnableTrace=1

bLoadDebugInformation=1

bEnableProfiling=1

 

Logging should now be enabled, go reproduce the problem in the game, and the log should show up in ../My Games/Skyrim/Logs/Script/ as a file called Papyrus.0.log, which will likely contain useful information about the error.

 

To upload the file on this forum, you will need to either put it in a .zip or .rar file, or rename the .log file extension to .txt (the forum software does not know what a .log file is, and will not upload it, but it will upload a standard .txt file or an archive file like zip or rar).

 

 

Once you are done with your logging needs, you can turn it back off with this:

 

[Papyrus]

fUpdateBudgetMS=1.2

fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=1.2

fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0

iMinMemoryPageSize=128

iMaxMemoryPageSize=512

iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=76800

bEnableLogging=0

bEnableTrace=0

bLoadDebugInformation=0

bEnableProfiling=0

[PowderdJedi433]

Speaking of logs -- since when is this mod being updated without an accompanying changelog?  Saw it had been updated on the 22nd and went to try and see what had changed and there's no changelog.  =o

[shinji72]

I know it's Out of Topic... But...

[whatto51]

I know it's Out of Topic... But...

 

[dkatryl]

Speaking of logs -- since when is this mod being updated without an accompanying changelog?  Saw it had been updated on the 22nd and went to try and see what had changed and there's no changelog.  =o

Since the main page corrupts my change log and puts spam in it's place, despite the editor showing it to be fine.

 

I put a change log in each post showing a new update, but it gets buried to the next page usually within 24 hours.

[trex]

Thank you Coopervane, I copied/pasted you're instructions and when I started up the load to start the logging, the submit feautres worked.

 

I think it maybe due to the fact I hadn't toggled immersive view yet on that load. I had it enabled before I posted when the submit features failed to work. I'll see if it'll work using immersive view and post up my papyrus if it doesn't.

[Kageryu]

I set my autosurrender health threshold to 20% and for some reason, after my PC surrenders, she doesn't get raped. She gets punched a few times and then she goes flat on the ground. The game doesn't even end, it just stays in that moment with my PC on the floor. I'm not sure what's wrong.

[whatto51]

You are getting undressed of everything 100% no mattter waht strip option u have on Sexlab... why??

 

Because this mod doeesn't use sexlab for stripping actors. It's not about consensual act, it's about being submitted by enemy, robbed of anything and used.

[whatto51]

I set my autosurrender health threshold to 20% and for some reason, after my PC surrenders, she doesn't get raped. She gets punched a few times and then she goes flat on the ground. The game doesn't even end, it just stays in that moment with my PC on the floor. I'm not sure what's wrong.

 

Not every npc rapes the PC, think it depends on original level of hostility.

In your case, being stuck on the ground looks like a problem that sometime occurs when two enemies are about to rape you. Something related to sexlab, not a submit bug. Just load and try again.

[dkatryl]

Minor issue that I came across while actually playing while killing a bit of time while waiting on holiday guests to show up: If you successfully seduce someone that is only RelationshipRank 0, and tell them to find privacy first, apparently, going into their house for some discrete nookie will trigger the trespassing alert, even mid-boink!

 

So, the simplest solution is to simply set the rank to 1 when you tell them to find privacy first, but if I left it at that, that means you would effectively jump from 0-2 the first time you bump uglies.  So, eh, I haven't decided if I will just say "meh, whatever" or try to come up with something clever in the post coital bliss to account for that.

 

Either way, it's a minor enough issue, that whatever I come up with, I'll just bundle it with whenever the next *real* update comes out.

[dkatryl]

 

You are getting undressed of everything 100% no mattter waht strip option u have on Sexlab... why??

 

Because this mod doeesn't use sexlab for stripping actors. It's not about consensual act, it's about being submitted by enemy, robbed of anything and used.

Two fold reason:

1. As stated above, the illusion is you are getting everything stolen, even if you have the option turned off.  Similarly, if I don't strip your victims entirely, then their gear doesn't show in the loot list when the "gift window" appears, which lets you loot them without killing or pickpocketing them.
2. The SL Framework's default undress/redress is basically instantly, which screws up the timing of the scene I use, both for victims as they do the post rape bleedout, and the player, as they get bound naked.

[jukem]

I have included a copy of my papyrus log after making someone submit. I also tried the "Hold on..." interaction for consensual but chose the "how about you don't scream..." option when she declined, selected an option between the two of us, but then everything stopped again. The animation didn't start for sex.

 

EDIT: I found my problem. I didn't see the post where there was a mistake on the 19DEC version which I didn't realize is what I had. I followed the instructions with the save file cleaner af after deactivating. Then activated the new version and all is good now.