Follower Slavery Mod (FSM) (14/12/2025)

[Bane Master]

2 hours ago, ASDASDASD_Smasher said:

I wish there was a mod that would randomly kidnap followers when they are not following you so there was more ways to get people enslaved.

Well it's not random but I am currently testing an additional way for followers/ex-followers to get enslaved 😉

[r235711]

I like to watch scenes where masters have sex with their slaves from the sidelines, but is there any way to prevent myself from occasionally being caught up as one of the group sex actors? It can be quite a hassle if the NPCs are hostile.
Also, I think it would be more immersive if the number of times enslaved followers have sex in their sex journals increased with each passing day.

[johnhamm]

3 hours ago, r235711 said:

I like to watch scenes where masters have sex with their slaves from the sidelines, but is there any way to prevent myself from occasionally being caught up as one of the group sex actors? It can be quite a hassle if the NPCs are hostile.
Also, I think it would be more immersive if the number of times enslaved followers have sex in their sex journals increased with each passing day.

 

Oh yea I actually ran into that too. Not hostile, but I was very surprised to suddenly be sucked into an orgy

[Bane Master]

4 hours ago, r235711 said:

I like to watch scenes where masters have sex with their slaves from the sidelines, but is there any way to prevent myself from occasionally being caught up as one of the group sex actors? It can be quite a hassle if the NPCs are hostile.

 

9 minutes ago, johnhamm said:

Oh yea I actually ran into that too. Not hostile, but I was very surprised to suddenly be sucked into an orgy

 

FSM does not call any scenes involving the Player.

 

If you are being included it's because the external mod responsible for the scene (or another mod detecting that scene) has added you.

[Castoli]

1 hour ago, Bane Master said:

FSM does not call any scenes involving the Player.

It does for me. I had that problem since day 1 of installing this mod and the only way to fix that was to set group sex chance to 0%

[Bane Master]

16 hours ago, Castoli said:

18 hours ago, Bane Master said:

FSM does not call any scenes involving the Player.

It does for me. I had that problem since day 1 of installing this mod and the only way to fix that was to set group sex chance to 0%

Well that would be a bug if it happens - I'll see if I can reproduce it 

[johnhamm]

I've only run into the issue once when there were only 2 men and a slave in the cell, one being me. I'm pretty certain it was FSM though, I don't have any mods that force me into scenes because I find that annoying. 

[Bane Master]

18 hours ago, Castoli said:

It does for me.

 

34 minutes ago, johnhamm said:

I've only run into the issue once when there were only 2 men and a slave in the cell

 

I think I have identified a situation where this bug might occur - there will be a fix in the upcoming release

[Libita]

I assume that it's not intended to take the enslaved followers back and keep them as your own slaves?

Edited November 28, 2024 by Libita

[Bane Master]

13 hours ago, Libita said:

I assume that it's not intended to take the enslaved followers back and keep them as your own slaves?

You are correct -  Player Master to Follower slaves is outside the scope of FSM

[johnhamm]

I'm thinking about making an addon for this mod if that's alright with you @Bane Master?

 

The idea would be to have a subjugation/domination mechanic where if a follower is enslaved for a long time they get other effects that can increase in severity over time, depending (maybe) on a personality assigned to masters. Subjugation would tick up over time enslaved and down over time freed. This would only work on named unique masters, not every random bandit, but an example would be a kind master having a Stockholm syndrome effect meaning that you need to do more than just pay money to get them back. Maybe they have a chance to run off back to their master each day until subjugation ticks down. Another example would be a harsh master breaking the slave, making them have different dialogue and not fight. You would need to take them to a different NPC to get them fixed or something similar. 

 

I'm open to suggestions for other subjugation effects and ways to fix them. I would only consider effects that are 100% reversible with some effort. I'm not interested in killing followers or irreversibly changing them mechanically. The only change like that I would consider would be something along the lines of going back permanently to an ex-master if the follower isn't currently following you. The effects might be very difficult or expensive to reverse, but it's important to me that they are reversible.

 

Bane, if you have any problem with this let me know and I'll delete this. When/if I get something to actually play with I'll make a different thread to prevent polluting this one, I just think this is the best place to get suggestions since people that are interested are already here

[bendan123]

16 hours ago, johnhamm said:

如果你同意的话，我正在考虑为这个模型做一个插件@贝恩大师?

 

这个想法是有一个征服/控制机制，如果一个追随者被奴役了很长时间，他们会受到其他影响，随着时间的推移，这些影响会越来越严重，这取决于(可能)分配给主人的个性。征服会随着被奴役的时间而上升，随着被解放的时间而下降。这只适用于指定的唯一主人，而不是每个随机的强盗，但一个例子是一个善良的主人有斯德哥尔摩综合症效应，这意味着你需要做的不仅仅是付钱让他们回来。也许他们每天都有机会跑回他们的主人身边，直到征服停止。另一个例子是一个苛刻的主人打破了奴隶，使他们有不同的对话，而不是战斗。你需要带他们去另一个NPC修理或者做类似的事情。

 

我对其他征服效果和修复方法的建议持开放态度。我只会考虑那些通过努力可以100%逆转的影响。我对杀死追随者或机械地不可逆地改变他们不感兴趣。我唯一会考虑的改变是，如果追随者现在没有追随你，那就永远回到前主人身边。这些影响可能很难逆转或者代价高昂，但对我来说重要的是它们是可逆的。

 

贝恩，如果你有任何问题，让我知道，我会删除这一点。当/如果我真的得到了可以玩的东西，我会做一个不同的线程来防止污染这个线程，我只是认为这是得到建议的最好地方，因为感兴趣的人已经在这里了

Aye +1

[mechs]

18 hours ago, johnhamm said:

I'm thinking about making an addon for this mod if that's alright with you @Bane Master?

 

The idea would be to have a subjugation/domination mechanic where if a follower is enslaved for a long time they get other effects that can increase in severity over time, depending (maybe) on a personality assigned to masters. Subjugation would tick up over time enslaved and down over time freed. This would only work on named unique masters, not every random bandit, but an example would be a kind master having a Stockholm syndrome effect meaning that you need to do more than just pay money to get them back. Maybe they have a chance to run off back to their master each day until subjugation ticks down. Another example would be a harsh master breaking the slave, making them have different dialogue and not fight. You would need to take them to a different NPC to get them fixed or something similar. 

 

I'm open to suggestions for other subjugation effects and ways to fix them. I would only consider effects that are 100% reversible with some effort. I'm not interested in killing followers or irreversibly changing them mechanically. The only change like that I would consider would be something along the lines of going back permanently to an ex-master if the follower isn't currently following you. The effects might be very difficult or expensive to reverse, but it's important to me that they are reversible.

 

Bane, if you have any problem with this let me know and I'll delete this. When/if I get something to actually play with I'll make a different thread to prevent polluting this one, I just think this is the best place to get suggestions since people that are interested are already here

Whether there will be a conflict with the NFF？

[johnhamm]

2 hours ago, mechs said:

Whether there will be a conflict with the NFF？

 

There definitely would not be since that is what I use. This would also be an addon so it will have to support everything FSM does

[mechs]

3 hours ago, johnhamm said:

 

There definitely would not be since that is what I use. This would also be an addon so it will have to support everything FSM does

Looking forward to seeing this addon soon!

[Bane Master]

On 11/29/2024 at 2:43 PM, johnhamm said:

I'm thinking about making an addon for this mod if that's alright with you @Bane Master?

That's fine - hope you can pull it off, please use the API  though rather than just linking to or overwriting scripts as the internals may often change without notice.

 

BTW you'll have noticed that FSM avoids hard dependencies almost entirely so bear that in mind when linking to other mods or using their resources.

 

If there's anything not in the API that you need let me know and I'll see if I can help.

 

 

[ae192]

On 11/14/2024 at 5:21 AM, Bane Master said:

Well it's not random but I am currently testing an additional way for followers/ex-followers to get enslaved 😉

I love this idea, the "rescue my follower" dopamine is my main draw to this fantastic mod.  But please make it such that we can opt-out certain followers; with some I don't want to risk corrupting their custom AI.

[Bane Master]

20 hours ago, ae192 said:

I love this idea, the "rescue my follower" dopamine is my main draw to this fantastic mod.  But please make it such that we can opt-out certain followers; with some I don't want to risk corrupting their custom AI.

I could add a follower blacklist to the json - that way you would be able to add (and remove) followers whenever you loaded your game.

[Bane Master]

What's New in Version 1.700

Released Just now

• Deviously Bound Followers (heavily restrained, blindfolded or collared) may be assaulted and enslaved by Non-Hostile NPCs (configure via MCM)
• Deviously Enslaved Continued assaults on the player can trigger assaults and enslavement of followers  (toggle & configure via MCM)
• Added support for Beeing Female LE/AE 1.6.1170/1179 
• Fixed a bug that could result in the Player being added to slave sex scenes
• Added a follower Blacklist to Utility.json - for simplicity the list uses follower names. Followers in the blacklist will be ignored by FSM

[Talesien]

3 hours ago, Bane Master said:

Added a follower Blacklist to Utility.json - for simplicity the list uses follower names. Followers in the blacklist will be ignored by FSM

I like the blacklist, helps to keep followers with ... 'fragile AI's' out of slavery. The problem I foresee is, since it's part of the package. I will have to remember backing up my version, then putting it back after an update and ideally compare them to ensure nothing else has changed. I know that will not work for me. I might remember to make a backup now ... but will I also remember to do so again if I add another name? And will I remember to replace the installed version with the backup after the next update? And will I feel like doing a diff on the two versions?
Afraid, the answer is "probably not" to all of those questions.
Maybe you could use a separate file, which is not part of the package as blacklist? Perhaps upload an example blacklist to the DL's for people not too comfortable with ini files, file editors, etc., so this remains simple for them to do, despite being update safe?

[johnhamm]

The enslavement on followers in bondage is working, but it isn't always following an assault. I've had it twice now just say that my follower is enslaved with no animation playing. It did display the line from the fertility mode integration though so maybe it thought that the NPCs werent loaded? I was right next to them though

Papyrus.0.log

Edited December 8, 2024 by johnhamm

[Bane Master]

2 hours ago, johnhamm said:

The enslavement on followers in bondage is working, but it isn't always following an assault. I've had it twice now just say that my follower is enslaved with no animation playing. It did display the line from the fertility mode integration though so maybe it thought that the NPCs werent loaded? I was right next to them though

Papyrus.0.log 233.65 MB · 0 downloads

A look at your log reveals that the SL scenes are being called correctly by FSM and then failing due to an issue with your setup - example below:

 

[12/08/2024 - 04:02:54PM] Error: Property ManageZadFilter not found on sslSystemConfig. Aborting call and returning None
stack:
    [alias ActorAlias004 on quest SexLabThread00 (12061EEF)].sslActorAlias.SetActor() - "sslActorAlias.psc" Line 485
    [SexLabThread00 (12061EEF)].sslthreadcontroller.AddActor() - "sslThreadModel.psc" Line ?
    [SexLabThread00 (12061EEF)].sslthreadcontroller.AddActors() - "sslThreadModel.psc" Line ?
    [SexLabQuestFramework (12000D62)].sexlabframework.StartSex() - "SexLabFramework.psc" Line 3325
    [SexLabQuestFramework (12000D62)].sexlabframework.QuickStart() - "SexLabFramework.psc" Line 3329
    <unknown self>.fsm_sexlabglobal.QuickStart() - "fsm_sexlabglobal.psc" Line 4
    [Active effect 4 on  (5B033226)].fsm_slaveryeffectscript.MasterUseSlave() - "fsm_slaveryeffectscript.psc" Line 275
    [alias Slave003 on quest fsm_FollowerSlaveryQuest (A3000D62)].fsm_slavealiasscript.DoSexSlaveEvents() - "fsm_slavealiasscript.psc" Line 85
    
    <truncated stack>

 

Also given that your Papyrus log is over 230MB in size and is throwing: "SLDD_Storage: GetPowerGained called" approximately 3000 times per second I am amazed the papyrus engine has time to do anything at all,

 

The log contains over 3 million "SLDD_Storage: GetPowerGained called" entries - I would suggest fixing that problem before trying to identify any issues with other installed mods

[johnhamm]

6 minutes ago, Bane Master said:

A look at your log reveals that the SL scenes are being called correctly by FSM and then failing due to an issue with your setup - example below:

 

[12/08/2024 - 04:02:54PM] Error: Property ManageZadFilter not found on sslSystemConfig. Aborting call and returning None
stack:
    [alias ActorAlias004 on quest SexLabThread00 (12061EEF)].sslActorAlias.SetActor() - "sslActorAlias.psc" Line 485
    [SexLabThread00 (12061EEF)].sslthreadcontroller.AddActor() - "sslThreadModel.psc" Line ?
    [SexLabThread00 (12061EEF)].sslthreadcontroller.AddActors() - "sslThreadModel.psc" Line ?
    [SexLabQuestFramework (12000D62)].sexlabframework.StartSex() - "SexLabFramework.psc" Line 3325
    [SexLabQuestFramework (12000D62)].sexlabframework.QuickStart() - "SexLabFramework.psc" Line 3329
    <unknown self>.fsm_sexlabglobal.QuickStart() - "fsm_sexlabglobal.psc" Line 4
    [Active effect 4 on  (5B033226)].fsm_slaveryeffectscript.MasterUseSlave() - "fsm_slaveryeffectscript.psc" Line 275
    [alias Slave003 on quest fsm_FollowerSlaveryQuest (A3000D62)].fsm_slavealiasscript.DoSexSlaveEvents() - "fsm_slavealiasscript.psc" Line 85
    
    <truncated stack>

 

Also given that your Papyrus log is over 230MB in size and is throwing: "SLDD_Storage: GetPowerGained called" approximately 3000 times per second I am amazed the papyrus engine has time to do anything at all,

 

The log contains over 3 million "SLDD_Storage: GetPowerGained called" entries - I would suggest fixing that problem before trying to identify any issues with other installed mods

 

Oh yea, I actually pressed cancel in the post edit after attaching that log because I checked it when I saw the size. Didn't realise that it was still attached. Deadly Drain had an infinite loop issue that was fixed in the latest update. I think that was responsible for a lot of random issues I started having...

[Bane Master]

16 hours ago, Talesien said:

Perhaps upload an example blacklist to the DL's

I can move it to a separate file, which other followers would you add to the default list along with Serana?

[Delzaron]

Intesresting...

 

there is a possibility to link to others slavery mods ? for example, followers are sold to Ravenous as meat girls.