pinky6225 Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 Good back story regarding Alicia, I finished it last night by Keeping Alicia's soul and putting deadric soul in the box and locking it. but should the quest have gone from my journal now or is that a sign of more to come?
DeepBlueFrog Posted November 3, 2013 Author Posted November 3, 2013 Good back story regarding Alicia, I finished it last night by Keeping Alicia's soul and putting deadric soul in the box and locking it. but should the quest have gone from my journal now or is that a sign of more to come? Yes and yes I forgot to mark the quest as complete... that will give me a chance for an epilogue in the next release (probably involving her sister).
Nomad108 Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 Version 3.0 had a problem with missing follower dialogues in some cases. I think I fixed it in 3.1 (but they could still be missing if you upgraded). If they are still missing in 3.1, try going back to Hjerim and enter the basement through the outside entrance. I put a trigger there to force follower dialogue options on Alicia (do not use fast travel to the basement... you have to walk to the entrance and into the basement for the trigger to work). I'm using 3.1 and I entered the basement through each entrance (outside and inside Hjerim) after my fresh install, but Alicia had no 'follow me' dialogue either way. I fast traveled to the Palace of the Kings and walked to Hjerim both times.
DeepBlueFrog Posted November 4, 2013 Author Posted November 4, 2013 Version 3.0 had a problem with missing follower dialogues in some cases. I think I fixed it in 3.1 (but they could still be missing if you upgraded). If they are still missing in 3.1, try going back to Hjerim and enter the basement through the outside entrance. I put a trigger there to force follower dialogue options on Alicia (do not use fast travel to the basement... you have to walk to the entrance and into the basement for the trigger to work). I'm using 3.1 and I entered the basement through each entrance (outside and inside Hjerim) after my fresh install, but Alicia had no 'follow me' dialogue either way. I fast traveled to the Palace of the Kings and walked to Hjerim both times. Were you able to get the follow-me dialogue some other way? or are you still stuck without it? I will keep looking next time I get a chance. It will be probably a few weeks before I can dig into this again.
Nomad108 Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 I beat Alicia with Sanguine's rod to make Ali appear and she had follower dialogue, so they both followed me after that. In any case, I've finished the quest using my save from before the fresh install and enjoyed it very much! I only mention the problems to help you make the mod better, but since I seem to be the only one with this problem, maybe it's just me. I'm using a lot of mods right now and one of them may be causing problems.
DeepBlueFrog Posted November 4, 2013 Author Posted November 4, 2013 I beat Alicia with Sanguine's rod to make Ali appear and she had follower dialogue, so they both followed me after that. In any case, I've finished the quest using my save from before the fresh install and enjoyed it very much! I only mention the problems to help you make the mod better, but since I seem to be the only one with this problem, maybe it's just me. I'm using a lot of mods right now and one of them may be causing problems. Good to know switching to Ali and back to Alicia can be a workaround. That will be helpful when I check it out again.
bc8436 Posted November 5, 2013 Posted November 5, 2013 has anyone tried with EFF? i noticed it said that it was incompatible but not tested so... i was going to try with EFF see if it worked... quick question though I have custom body so i downloaded the optional file do i need the core and the optional or just the optional? I did not have any trouble with this and EFF it all worked just fine just did not have the same options as with other followers but it worked just fine with other followers and Alicia. hope this helps I also use EFF, and had no issues with Alicia/Ali as well. Used her as the only follower and then in combination with 2 others, worked fine in both scenarios.
Slammer64 Posted November 5, 2013 Posted November 5, 2013 Another FYI skyrimll, played the quest through to curing Alicia, when cured, her face loses it's textures and becomes the default brownish color, any suggestions on how to fix it? I'm using UNP with SG_Renewal textures, but it's not a big deal. When I tried to open up Alicia_NPCPainslutCured I got this message: FACEGEN: No Morphs found in TRI file meshs\actors\character\character assets\hair\apachii\female\hair28.tri and MODELS: Could not find model actors\character\AliciaPainSlut\Human\femalehead.nif and FACEGEN: Could not find (and apply) race morph 'Nord Race" in TRI file actors/character\AliciaPainSlut\Human\FemaleHeadRaces.tri for geometry Marker_error:0 and FACEGEN: Non-skinned facegen part actors\character\AliciaPainSlut\Human\femalehead.nif and a few others, maybe part of this is causing it?
DeepBlueFrog Posted November 5, 2013 Author Posted November 5, 2013 Another FYI skyrimll, played the quest through to curing Alicia, when cured, her face loses it's textures and becomes the default brownish color, any suggestions on how to fix it? I'm using UNP with SG_Renewal textures, but it's not a big deal. When I tried to open up Alicia_NPCPainslutCured I got this message: FACEGEN: No Morphs found in TRI file meshs\actors\character\character assets\hair\apachii\female\hair28.tri and MODELS: Could not find model actors\character\AliciaPainSlut\Human\femalehead.nif and FACEGEN: Could not find (and apply) race morph 'Nord Race" in TRI file actors/character\AliciaPainSlut\Human\FemaleHeadRaces.tri for geometry Marker_error:0 and FACEGEN: Non-skinned facegen part actors\character\AliciaPainSlut\Human\femalehead.nif and a few others, maybe part of this is causing it? Thanks for the report. I probably forgot to update the face tints for the 'cured' NPC. This is easy to fix for now on your side by pressing CTRL+F4 after clicking on the name of the NPC in the actors list. The other error messages are more concerning. I will take a look deeper,
Slammer64 Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 That's ok, I tried the Ctrl-F4 thing first thing, that's how I fixed Fjotra in your Dibella Mod when I'm running Xvision Children, sad to say, it didn't work, but no worries, I just reloaded an earlier save and changed my choice from curing her.
DeepBlueFrog Posted November 6, 2013 Author Posted November 6, 2013 That's ok, I tried the Ctrl-F4 thing first thing, that's how I fixed Fjotra in your Dibella Mod when I'm running Xvision Children, sad to say, it didn't work, but no worries, I just reloaded an earlier save and changed my choice from curing her. By the way, her cured self is actually a separate NPC. If you use another configuration of the soul shards, cured Alicia will be disabled and pain slut Alicia will be restored. No need to reload an earlier game for that.
Slammer64 Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 That's what I did, I had a save from just before entering Misty Hollow, went back to it and choose Alicia the Pain Slut instead of cured.
DeepBlueFrog Posted November 6, 2013 Author Posted November 6, 2013 That's what I did, I had a save from just before entering Misty Hollow, went back to it and choose Alicia the Pain Slut instead of cured. What I meant is that the transformation is reversible. You can uncure her if you want
Luxifer87 Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 hi again! i have another trouble... i've tried this mod and works fine with EFF and AFT, but when i try with UFO alicia won't follow me and the "come with me" option remain on the dialogue option... if i conjure her won't stop follow me also when i say to her to come back home... any suggestion? i ask because UFO is my favorite followers mod
DeepBlueFrog Posted November 6, 2013 Author Posted November 6, 2013 hi again! i have another trouble... i've tried this mod and works fine with EFF and AFT, but when i try with UFO alicia won't follow me and the "come with me" option remain on the dialogue option... if i conjure her won't stop follow me also when i say to her to come back home... any suggestion? i ask because UFO is my favorite followers mod Do you have alicia's esp file loaded after UFO in your load order? That was the requirement to get UFO to work with the previous version. I have not tested her yet with UFO, so it could also be a new issue.
Luxifer87 Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 hi again! i have another trouble... i've tried this mod and works fine with EFF and AFT, but when i try with UFO alicia won't follow me and the "come with me" option remain on the dialogue option... if i conjure her won't stop follow me also when i say to her to come back home... any suggestion? i ask because UFO is my favorite followers mod Do you have alicia's esp file loaded after UFO in your load order? That was the requirement to get UFO to work with the previous version. I have not tested her yet with UFO, so it could also be a new issue. yes yes, it's under UFO... i've tried also upper UFO but nothing change :\ i have all the UFO's expansions (dawnguard, hearthfire and Dragonborn, plus ufo serana patch)
moonwolf3 Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 has anyone tried with EFF? i noticed it said that it was incompatible but not tested so... i was going to try with EFF see if it worked... quick question though I have custom body so i downloaded the optional file do i need the core and the optional or just the optional? The optional files only give you the folder structure to custimize her skin and body shape. You need to install that archive on top of the core files. So i changed her human body to the meshes i wanted via the optional files.. and then i put that into the NMM as a zed file as normal. Activated the core 3.1 and then the optional. But did not get any overwrite is that ok? It just asked if i wanted to upgrade.
DeepBlueFrog Posted November 7, 2013 Author Posted November 7, 2013 has anyone tried with EFF? i noticed it said that it was incompatible but not tested so... i was going to try with EFF see if it worked... quick question though I have custom body so i downloaded the optional file do i need the core and the optional or just the optional? The optional files only give you the folder structure to custimize her skin and body shape. You need to install that archive on top of the core files. So i changed her human body to the meshes i wanted via the optional files.. and then i put that into the NMM as a zed file as normal. Activated the core 3.1 and then the optional. But did not get any overwrite is that ok? It just asked if i wanted to upgrade. The optional files only adds new folders, so you shouldn't get an overwrite unless you already had the custom Alicia folders installed.
fred200 Posted November 7, 2013 Posted November 7, 2013 I have the problem common to a couple of us. If I beat Ali enough to transition, or use the control rod, she vanishes with effects, and my screen locks up. Skyrim is using 60 percent of my CPU, and the screen is just frozen. I have to use the task manager to cancel the Skyrim task. Ali can be banished successfully; just not transitioned. I have not seen any other bugs, but I can not get the quest started by chatting Ali up either. Lots of cloths off, clothes on, kneel, stand, kneel, stand sequences - but I never get any other dialog options. I do use UFO.
DeepBlueFrog Posted November 8, 2013 Author Posted November 8, 2013 I have the problem common to a couple of us. If I beat Ali enough to transition, or use the control rod, she vanishes with effects, and my screen locks up. Skyrim is using 60 percent of my CPU, and the screen is just frozen. I have to use the task manager to cancel the Skyrim task. Ali can be banished successfully; just not transitioned. I have not seen any other bugs, but I can not get the quest started by chatting Ali up either. Lots of cloths off, clothes on, kneel, stand, kneel, stand sequences - but I never get any other dialog options. I do use UFO. I need to investigate this issue further. Two major things happen during the transition from Ali to Alicia : - Alicia gets a berserker Orc effect (covered in blood) - she also has a chance to lose her inventory and have it replaced by zaz bondage items. It seems one of these two actions causes a crash for some people. My first recommendation is to make sure you have the very latest version of zaz animation pack and also update Fnis animation templates accordingly. Past that, I am not sure what could be causing a crash.
Vortec Posted November 8, 2013 Posted November 8, 2013 Regarding Ali to Alicia transition during my screen freezes, the upper left " Sanguine returns Alicia" - i forget the exact phrase- just starts to load half way then computer lockup, as in "Sanguine ...." phrase or line hasn't fully loaded yet to full text. Dunno if that helps in narrowing the timing during the animation when things break or not...but it's consistent. Btw very well done on this Mod, been playing it for over a month now and have to say Alicia probably has to rank way up there in Video Game history as most "Unique" character, I've purposely haven't finished Alicia's quest yet just for the fun of having her around. I also found a link that may help with those with problems with Misty Grove http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Misty_Grove Again thanx for this and your other Mods Skyrimll....very much appreciated.
Old Book Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 Misty Grove Bug & Work AroundBad News / Good News. When entering or leaving Misty Grove via the Blue Beam of Light, my screen goes almost black. This may be an NVIDIA issue, as a similar problem can happen with RND drunkenness visuals. I can save, but not load.Work Around: Save the game. Quit the game. Load the game. The screen clears up, and can continue normally. Loved finally being able to cure Alicia (good character path). Will play through again some time to see fully Daedric Alicia. Ali / Alicia's quest is very well done. Great to see a sex themed character with a real story.
DeepBlueFrog Posted November 9, 2013 Author Posted November 9, 2013 Thanks for the troubleshooting - I will try to remove her bondage items in the next version to see if that helps with crashes.
TheSGC Posted November 11, 2013 Posted November 11, 2013 Hm...is there anyway to command Ali/Alicia/any other follower to attack you while you're on the wooden x or the torture rack or whatever?
ImmortalOne Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 I had a weird problem with alicia after completing the quest Yesterday I tried all 3 endings, and with the ending where you place Ali's soul in the machine, leaving only Alicia.Alicia dissapears at random, every time she would walk past the 2 ignored alarik's warriors in Whiterun she would dissapear.When I fast traveled to dragonsreach she was there again and could walk to the city's entrance, but when I walked back, and Alicia passed the 2 warriors she dissapeard again.She also dissapears at random outside a city.I tested the same thing with Ali, but she doesn't dissapear.And the human Alicia is not a follower anymore (not standard anyway) and didn't test it with her.I reinstalled the mod, and now she doesn't dissapear anymore, but now I have to start the whole quest again
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