coffeeink Posted April 3, 2022 Posted April 3, 2022 [Early Beta] Submissive Lola - coffees Extension View File DISCLAIMER AS A START!!! This is an early beta of my Collection of planned Lola Addons. This means the Mod currently doesn't start automaticly AND needs to be controlled over the Debug Menu + started manual. Read carefully to not end up in a strange situation. I use this version now for ~ 40h playtime and i did not encountered a lot of issues. I develop this mod under SE and it is not tested in LE BUT it should be no issue running this under LE except the default Outfits not working. Else there should be no issue. DISCLAIMER END Description Submissive Lola is currenlty one of my favorite Follower Mods and i wanted to add some more features to go more into "Randomness" and Controll over the Player with some Scenes and Sidequests. At the current state it's only has 1 feature but at least I really enjoy with playing with it. Requirements Submissive Lola and all Requirements of it UI Extensions at Nexus How to start the mod For now the mod doesn't start automaticly and the Main Eventmanager is not implemented fully. To Start the feature you have to start the mod manual. To do this simply open the console and type startquest cfe_lolaOutfitTask This should start the quest and you can test it by pressing F8 and a menu should open. Feature Description Outfit Task: For the Lazy Readers Currently Redress Key: V Debug Menu F8 Spoiler Description The Master Takes Controll over your Outfits. Based On your Submission Score and Location you have to wear certain outfits. Nothing more, Nothing Less. Except Circlets, Armulets and Rings (Slot checked) There are 3 Levels of Outfit. How you want to use it is up to you (from Punising for rebelious with very slutty to more normal or normal to slutty is up to you, the message boxes will configureable later) If you enter a new Location a Notification pops up and with a Single Button press you change your and your Playmates Outfit (Under Conditions). The Current Outfitlocations are currently implemented: Player Home Settlement Adventuring Capital Inn Jarls Place (Reuses the Capital Outfits) If you can't wear an Outfitpart due wearing a Devious Device in this slot this will be ignored. Also all DDs will be ignored with "wearing to much" Also beeing naked on the slot is accepted. If you don't wear the outfit you get a warning => After 3 warnings you get a Lola default punishment If you wear the outfit correct for some days you get a Lola default reward Make sure to not use the Alternative Wearing funtionaliy of Eye Candy. Config Before you can start the Quest you need to define your Outfits. For this Save your Game, Start the Quest. Equip your Outfit and Press F8 and Save the Outfit for a Location and Level. You can save more than 1 Outfit for a Lcoation and Level. A Random Outfit will be selected for you. Delete the Default Outfits if you want. These Outfits are stored in JSON => you do it one time for all your Playthroughs. You can delete and add new Outfits during your playthrough. Playmate Fucntionality The Playmate can also be forced to use the same outfit as you but There is 1 Warning for you: The current Armor Outfit get deleted. This is needed to prevent the KI or reequiping it over and over again if something is missing (For example your Outfit doesn't contain boots and only a Bikini, this prevents the Playmate to dress to this sexy Bikini some Heavy Dremora Boots) The Playmate Functionality is only used IFF you have the same Sex than the Player: For exmaple: Player is Female, Playmate is Female. Else it could break with Gender restriced Clothings (as most of the mod armors are working) There are currently no plans to have own Outfits for the playmate Next Steps and Plans These are the next Steps: Automaticly Start the Quest MCM Menu (i have to check if MCM Helper is existing for LE) Make the Debug Menu avaialble before starting the Outfit Quest for better Config Make some Options from the Debug Menu available over Dialoge options together with Picky Chance of Master Feature Plans based on Requests: Enable YPS and Bathing Mods like Wartimes tweaked did (Master controls, makeup, Bathing and Hairstyles/color) Make the Warnings true to get traded for another slave (forced Master change) Scenes in Inns Master haves fun and you have to clean afterwards All chairs are used/unconfortable => beeing used as furniture for a short time Master wants to have time for his own and not caring about you, getting put away for safety Towns Some Bondage Games Get a set of Restraints you have to get rid of by asking around Master is sick of your stealing and stress and binds your hand to not get any troubles After a certain time force to leave the town Put away until your master ahs something to do Shopping Quest Some Quests Getting lent to Jarl for a short party Helping out in the Inn Getting used as payment for a debt Known Issues Fast Travel causes a warning at Outfit Task if Location is changed Version Histoy Spoiler 0.0.1: First Beta Release of Outfit Task Submitter coffeeink Submitted 04/03/2022 Category Quest Requires Submissive Lola: The Resubmission LE/SE Special Edition Compatible Yes 5
coffeeink Posted April 3, 2022 Author Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) Reserved For Beta Releases and additional Descriptions Untested Version: (On Existing Saves -> Press F8 and select the Option Refresh References) Pauses the Outfit check during Prostitution Quest to avoid Outfit collisions cfe_Lola.zip Edited April 5, 2022 by coffeeink
Jappa123 Posted April 3, 2022 Posted April 3, 2022 Damn Next Steps and Plans sounds great! exactly what I was missing in Submissive Lola, would love to share some ideas/scenes: - If player is stuck in restraints not equipped by Submissive Lola there could be scene with blacksmith to remove them, and maybe replace with ones provided by Master? - Buy restraints scene between Master and Trader. - Gag and bind player hands in some areas like castles, jails etc - could by adjustable in mcm? - Events depending on the time of day/night like player need to be restrained during night in city or simple cage scene in nights. - During exploring Master could find some bondage devices and want to see how they look on player. Anyway looking forward for next updates! 2
Leeeeeroy Posted April 3, 2022 Posted April 3, 2022 Well, more lola stuff is always good. Gonna give a try later if I have time
Balgin Posted April 3, 2022 Posted April 3, 2022 YPS integration would be interesting. Fortunately YPS lists all the mod events for modders to use in a spoiler box near the top of the mod description. Would it be just for hair and makeup or would it be piercings as well? (I tend to think of nails as makeup). If you did include piercings they could be a gateway/preparation for the devious piercings fitted at 60 submission although they could also cover other areas such as ears early on (or even first) then maybe 1 or 2 facial piercings (nostril, eyebrow etc) similar to the way Wartimes uses it. 1
Pyreliter Posted April 3, 2022 Posted April 3, 2022 All this time, and I've yet to see a "Lola" slavetat. Since there's an event (gift/treat/reward) at the end of the training, perhaps a similar event towards the lower submission score where the Master/Mistress mentions 'You're so shy and forgetful, you'd forget your own name if it wasn't tattooed on you. So this mean's we'll make it easy for all of Tamriel to know who you are now!" I do like the similarity with Maria Eden's incorporation of outfits and their status/role in the mod mechanics. I never liked the requirement of having forced full nudity, so I'll try out your patch/add-on and see if I can help your improvements as you continue your work. I noticed your intent to try and incorporate additional events to trade/sell to other Masters/Mistresses, which is another reminder of the old Maria Eden mechanics of having a (json?) list that persists between playthroughs. May I suggest asking/polling folks interested in your add-on on where they'd best like the location/placement of the 'Lola' tattoo, not to conflict with favorite tattoos such as Sanquine's Rose or 'Pet' or getting a good idea where to pair up with similar themed tattoos.
Balgin Posted April 3, 2022 Posted April 3, 2022 19 minutes ago, Pyreliter said: All this time, and I've yet to see a "Lola" slavetat. Since there's an event (gift/treat/reward) at the end of the training, perhaps a similar event towards the lower submission score where the Master/Mistress mentions 'You're so shy and forgetful, you'd forget your own name if it wasn't tattooed on you. So this mean's we'll make it easy for all of Tamriel to know who you are now!" Check Khal's Lola add on. There's an arse branding event at a low submission threshold that results in a permanent tattoo. It has a time threshold on it but you can reduce that in the MCM. Not exactly what you're after but in the same vein. 1
coffeeink Posted April 3, 2022 Author Posted April 3, 2022 24 minutes ago, Pyreliter said: I do like the similarity with Maria Eden's incorporation of outfits and their status/role in the mod mechanics. I never liked the requirement of having forced full nudity, so I'll try out your patch/add-on and see if I can help your improvements as you continue your work. I noticed your intent to try and incorporate additional events to trade/sell to other Masters/Mistresses, which is another reminder of the old Maria Eden mechanics of having a (json?) list that persists between playthroughs. Yes Maria Eden is the Core Idea i took it from. I try also to get some of the Event Ideas over to Lola. Regarding the Tatoo Event. That'S already in Kals Addon BUT i aws thinking to maybe add RapeTats as a new "trick Event" Regarding YPS Question: i plan to cover: Nails Eyeliner Lipstick Hair color and maybe style (subset json to not get some forced unwnated hairstyles) Piercings and stockings i don't want to cover (stockings are basicly covered by Outfit mechanic) and piercings can conflict a lot with DD Piercing and the Lola Piercing event. And tbh i never got it fully working other than this gold ball studs. But i have to cool down the expectations for the start. The first big Part will be the Core. Handling Lola start and eventmanager. I have severall options to add the Eventmanager but i have to check to not get in conflict with the other Lola Event starts.
Allyson Wonderland Posted April 3, 2022 Posted April 3, 2022 More Lola content is always welcome and this one looks like it will be a great addon to an already wonderful mod!
Leoosp Posted April 4, 2022 Posted April 4, 2022 @coffeeink There is a MCM Helper mod available for Skyrim however it's different, for SE to LE. SE is done by Parapets (MCM Helper at Skyrim Special Edition Nexus - Mods and Community (nexusmods.com)) and LE is done by Jaxonz (Jaxonz MCM Helper at Skyrim Nexus - Mods and Community (nexusmods.com)).
blackcat0610 Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 Seeing the update plan I really liked, I really liked Lola mod and really happy to see an extension for this mod, hope there is more bondage or humiliation in skyrim. Thank you for creating！！
coffeeink Posted April 5, 2022 Author Posted April 5, 2022 (edited) Hm i decided to make the YPS integration first as also a debug quest: I have basically 2 options to integrate it: Let the master select and directly apply to it (just sending the mod event and it's executed My favorite -> Master gives you the request how you should look like and you have to take care of it that everything is fine -> Like it's done in wartimes. Gives a reason during adventuring to go back to town and restock equipments. Will need to use YPS tweaked i guess Edited April 5, 2022 by coffeeink
Leoosp Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, coffeeink said: Hm i decided to make the YPS integration first as also a debug quest: I have basically 2 options to integrate it: Let the master select and directly apply to it (just sending the mod event and it's executed My favorite -> Master gives you the request how you should look like and you have to take care of it that everything is fine -> Like it's done in wartimes. Gives a reason during adventuring to go back to town and restock equipments. Will need to use YPS tweaked i guess @coffeeink Using the tweaked version of YPS is best. It has more events and/or global properties that can be accessed. Allows for reading down to fingernails and/or state of makeup. So can be used for basis of further interactivity. Perhaps have it especially tied to the mindset of the owner, and/or submission score based on Submissive Lola - The Resubmission 2.0.51 setting. Maybe a mix of both (1 and 2), as certain changes can be locked out in YPS from player caused changes, this is only possible through API mod events. So things you want to be permanent, and/or continuously under owner control, need to be locked out really (unless you wish to have punishments for deviation as well as regular checks)? Lockouts can be reversed by another mod event, would as a result need to listen for when the player is released and if they return (after release) so that lockouts can be properly managed and controlled. Also what about if the prostitution function from the dependency mod is active and it is using its outfit system? Which takes precedence, fashion slave outfit, working player (whore outfit), your outfit sets etc? Edited April 5, 2022 by Leoosp Further detail.
coffeeink Posted April 5, 2022 Author Posted April 5, 2022 (edited) The outfit and prostitution point is a valid one. I will check if the Outfits are accessable from outside. I currently always use the Lola integrated prostitution. ... /edit why complicated if you cna make it simple... i just pause the system until you are finished =). i think i can create this in some minutes and release it as untestd version. i currently on my dev profile => no gamesave I think i will implement the self usage with a forced set as punishment. Maybe 2 jsons as "acceptable" and the other as punsihment. => if you don't dye your hair red i make them neon green or something like that. But first i will add the normal monitoring and checking. also without Dialoges. for now @Leoosp i added in Post 2 of this Thread an "untested" Version. I can't test it right now. It should work due how simple the fix is. Just make sure to Refresh the References over the Debug Wheel Menu. It should pause during the prositution mod the Outfit check and reenable it after you finished and stoped the quest Edited April 5, 2022 by coffeeink
Leoosp Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 (edited) 46 minutes ago, coffeeink said: The outfit and prostitution point is a valid one. I will check if the Outfits are accessable from outside. I currently always use the Lola integrated prostitution. ... /edit why complicated if you cna make it simple... i just pause the system until you are finished =). i think i can create this in some minutes and release it as untestd version. i currently on my dev profile => no gamesave I think i will implement the self usage with a forced set as punishment. Maybe 2 jsons as "acceptable" and the other as punsihment. => if you don't dye your hair red i make them neon green or something like that. But first i will add the normal monitoring and checking. also without Dialoges. for now @Leoosp i added in Post 2 of this Thread an "untested" Version. I can't test it right now. It should work due how simple the fix is. Just make sure to Refresh the References over the Debug Wheel Menu. It should pause during the prositution mod the Outfit check and reenable it after you finished and stoped the quest Also the stockings may be overlays in YPS due to conflicts with other footwear (including Devious Devices) when one item is equipped currently, it replaces the previous one. As well as having the stocking under the shoes and devious footwear. Edited April 5, 2022 by Leoosp
pnutz78 Posted April 6, 2022 Posted April 6, 2022 @coffeeinkthis sounds great! Thanks for putting the effort it. What I was really missing from the original lola mod was more DD related events: were certain outfits (just shoes, gag or a mask as consequence) any kind of combined DD outfits would have been fun. So my question is for your outfit function: can a player just add specific DDs as outfits?
Reuf84 Posted April 6, 2022 Posted April 6, 2022 very nice mod. I hope it will be further developed and will have many more functions. I would like to have a few slutty outfits as a dependency, which are then already predefined as standard. as well as a few devious devices. A nice quest would also be if you were given the cursed loot shopping quest as Lola. 1
coffeeink Posted April 6, 2022 Author Posted April 6, 2022 (edited) DDs will not be part of regular outfits. The Risk to break a lot of other functionalities is just to high and all the issues with swapping outfits etc. If you want DDs as part asn an outfit i would recommend to just open XEdit copy the DDs you want into a new mod and remove the keywords and scripts. a lot of DDs working fine without that if you just want the worn armor part. Some DD Outfit quests on the other hand are def. possible. I had for wartimes a small quest designed i want to reuse for exmaple: Selling DDs => you have an amout of time (~3h for exmaple) and you get a set of Devices you need to get rid of by talking to people with different outcomes (buying1,2,3 devices from you or getting annoyed and punish you with new devices or smiply helpful by giving you the chance to display it on a nice furniture) Predefined Outfits is hard because this would create dependecies which makes no sense. It all starts with LE vs SE, UNP vs 3BA, Female vs Male character. Someone wants to have first normal clothes to get more slutty, others want degrading punsihing to more sexy etc. In general due the nature of beeing a Lola Addon i want to keep the mod compatible and not interfering with Lola events except if i realy replace and change them (for exmaple yps integration will collide with the internal hair change quest) Edited April 6, 2022 by coffeeink 2
randompersons123 Posted April 11, 2022 Posted April 11, 2022 Does this mod work with Kalhah's addon? Or is it just seperate - I love the outfit idea, anything that brings wartimes mechanics to the rest of the game is great for me
Antiope_Apollonia Posted April 11, 2022 Posted April 11, 2022 On 4/6/2022 at 5:24 PM, coffeeink said: If you want DDs as part asn an outfit i would recommend to just open XEdit copy the DDs you want into a new mod and remove the keywords and scripts. a lot of DDs working fine without that if you just want the worn armor part. No need to reinvent the wheel. Non-DDs already exist.
coffeeink Posted April 14, 2022 Author Posted April 14, 2022 On 4/11/2022 at 10:43 PM, subman109 said: Does this mod work with Kalhah's addon? Or is it just seperate - I love the outfit idea, anything that brings wartimes mechanics to the rest of the game is great for me It works fine with the addon short Status. Tracking of yps integrated and somehow tested. I now add some debug menus. 1
coffeeink Posted April 17, 2022 Author Posted April 17, 2022 Ok i have a qustion to all the users here which are already using this Addon. I played yesterday with the integration of Forcegreets to start the Tasks BUT i ran into issues regarding conflicts. I don'T know what i'm doing wrong BUT it happenes that 0kal Addon and my Forcegreets can overlap => this results into a weird bugfest. Until i found a solution for this i would add a "Soft Forcegreet". The Same as you get the normal Lola Tricks => you have to speak to the NPC and ask them for a job. If you leave the Location without asking or wait to long (24h) => you get punished. This should cover all Possibilities. I think Forcegreets are more immersive but sometimes they are just killing it.
Jappa123 Posted April 21, 2022 Posted April 21, 2022 But without 0kal addon installed everything is fine? Kalhah's addon seems abandoned not sure if it worth to keep it compatible.
Jappa123 Posted May 28, 2022 Posted May 28, 2022 Almost 2 months after announcement, any update about current dev progress? Thanks! 2
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