Sexy Bandit Captives © [WIP] Support Thread

[Blackbird Wanderer]

8 hours ago, Hakamura said:

I would like to specify that I too have the bug of the quest for the three kadjit merchants!

What version?  This should have been fixed in v0.98e.

 

7 hours ago, Balgin said:

Then I found out one of her servants had a very flexible concept of loyalty - so flexible, in fact, that she paid me to bribe her a day in advance!

This also should have been fixed in v0.98e.

 

8 hours ago, kalador said:

Well, I can report that I did try searching all of Elisif's furniture

Hmmm, that used to be there.  It seems to be missing from the current code.  Will regenerate for next version.

[Blackbird Wanderer]

6 hours ago, sonjohandbzx said:

Downloaded & installed. (Can't really go for new save: it's a L64 character - don't want to go through DCL questline & Laura's Bondage questlines again)

It doesn't say "new save", it says "clean save", meaning a save game that's never seen SBC before, or has been cleaned with something like SaveTool.exe.

 

6 hours ago, kalador said:

Anyway, the point that I was trying to make originally, before getting sidetracked into completing the quest a different way, was:  The word "Whipser" in the players conversation topic to both Elisif and Falk Firebeard should be spelled "Whisper".  It is spelled correctly in their responses, but not in the player's conversation.

Thanks; corrected.

 

3 hours ago, annoying1 said:

so I am wondering if the sandbox nature of the mod is still there or if you have opted for a more traditional Skyrim approach in it's story that is quest only. Personally I prefer a mix of both but I understand its your mod.

Then you have your preference.  It's a mix of both interwoven together so it should appeal to you.

[kalador]

v0.98e LE

Liberate, Escort or Subjugate

Two prisoners (Luna, Makela) at Swindler's Den.  Both subjugated and placed in player homes.  Both are marked as incomplete, and the mission is still open.

[Blackbird Wanderer]

8 minutes ago, kalador said:

v0.98e LE

Liberate, Escort or Subjugate

Two prisoners (Luna, Makela) at Swindler's Den.  Both subjugated and placed in player homes.  Both are marked as incomplete, and the mission is still open.

Did the Quest transition from strategic to tactical upon entering Swindler's Den?

[sonjohandbzx]

So, got 2 saves running:

1 with the console changes, where I haven't got a clue what to do: Ariela doesn't say anything, an no hints whatsoveer to solve the vision.

1 with the somewhat cleaned save where I found a note in Belethor's shop, asked in the Bannered Mare, was sent to Falkreath, and the Jarl, innkeep nor Nenya know anything. So pretty stuck again.

[kalador]

20 minutes ago, Blackbird Wanderer said:

Did the Quest transition from strategic to tactical upon entering Swindler's Den?

Yes.  Updated upon entry, both slaves updated when I got close enough.  I did find a note when I cleaned out the bandits directing me to another hideout, something about Ravens and taming a cat without getting into spoiler territory.  I was at the other hideout after delivering the "rescued" girls to my homes when I noticed that the mission was still active.

[Toedy]

I am running 98e on LE. I read the note in Riverwood Traders and was assigned to talk to an innkeeper. I tried them in Riverwood and Whiterun with no option to talk about captives.

Sounds like something was broken or corrupted.  Try a fresh download on a clean save.

10 hours ago, Blackbird Wanderer said:

 

  Reveal hidden contents

StartQuest SBCSS

SetStage SBCSS 5

SetFactionRank XX00E6B1 -2

SetFactionRank XX00E6B7 10

 

Sounds like something was broken or corrupted.  Try a fresh download on a clean save.

 

 

I did a fresh download, install, and fresh game. This time I did not even get the note. I am not a modder but I have a theory anyway. Since SBC fires up on initial log in, is it possible that some of its scripts are being stepped on by other mod as they are firing up also? Would a restart button or command possibly fix these issues since (at least) a few of us run script heavy games?

[Heroine HoneyCrotch]

26 minutes ago, Toedy said:

I am running 98e on LE. I read the note in Riverwood Traders and was assigned to talk to an innkeeper. I tried them in Riverwood and Whiterun with no option to talk about captives.

Sounds like something was broken or corrupted.  Try a fresh download on a clean save.

I did a fresh download, install, and fresh game. This time I did not even get the note. I am not a modder but I have a theory anyway. Since SBC fires up on initial log in, is it possible that some of its scripts are being stepped on by other mod as they are firing up also? Would a restart button or command possibly fix these issues since (at least) a few of us run script heavy games?

Can't quote on phone?

 

You mentioned scripts being stepped on by others mods.

 

A good question then would be if any of the scripts are still prefixed with .tif

 

 

 

[Blackbird Wanderer]

1 hour ago, Toedy said:

Since SBC fires up on initial log in, is it possible that some of its scripts are being stepped on by other mod as they are firing up also?

Yes, though there's a 3 second delay but avoiding crashes was what was in mind for that.  Try starting a new game, get everything stable, save, exit, then reload with SBC active and see what happens.

 

44 minutes ago, Heroine HoneyCrotch said:

A good question then would be if any of the scripts are still prefixed with .tif

Only two out of 368 are; the rest have been converted.  Why would that matter?

 

1 hour ago, sonjohandbzx said:

1 with the somewhat cleaned save where I found a note in Belethor's shop, asked in the Bannered Mare, was sent to Falkreath, and the Jarl, innkeep nor Nenya know anything. So pretty stuck again.

It would only be Nenya in that particular case.  Innkeeper knowledge isn't Hold specific.  Not sure what's wrong though.

[Toedy]

44 minutes ago, Heroine HoneyCrotch said:

Can't quote on phone?

 

You mentioned scripts being stepped on by others mods.

 

A good question then would be if any of the scripts are still prefixed with .tif

 

 

 

!. Blackbird Wanderer had replied to multiple posts in one post so I removed the others to reduce confusion.

2. I do have a mod with scripts that have tif in them but I disabled it thinking it might be causing issues. It seemed to have no effect.

[Heroine HoneyCrotch]

22 minutes ago, Blackbird Wanderer said:

Why would that matter?

 

Same name script, only one wins

 

Another mod has tif.file/scripts then the scripts will fight till the death, last one wins everytime! MO would tell a user if one of your 2 tif's are interacting with other mod. 

 

While highly unlikely, this could explain why some users(?) have problems that others dont. 

Edited April 15, 2022 by Heroine HoneyCrotch

[kalador]

Okay.  Getting the message that I have found the camp.  Getting the message that the girls are in the camp.  I am NOT getting the message that I have located the girls, and that is the point at which everything comes to a screeching halt.

 

I reloaded a save from before I finished the "Between the Lines" quest, finished it, talked to an innkeeper, sent to Morthal, talked to the steward and got sent to Robber's Gorge.  Three girls in the camp, the camp has been cleared, and I can talk to the girls and choose what to do with them, but I have yet to locate them.

 

Lissa, Caelia and Evska.  Evska was entertaining a pair of bandits when I was clearing the camp.  I have found and read the Bandit Leader's Journal.  All of the wisps have been defeated, as have all of the bandits.  Evska still has the purple glow on her as if she is still affected by the wisps.  Detect Life shows three non-hostile people (the girls) and one hostile, a deer outside of camp.  Detect Dead shows eight dead bandits.  I have had the problem with invisible enemies before in this game.

 

I went down into the cave under the camp, cleaned out the chest there and the one on the island, came back out, and spoke to Evska.  Now I have the Liberate, Escort, Subjugate choices for her.

Edited April 15, 2022 by kalador
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[Toedy]

53 minutes ago, Blackbird Wanderer said:

Yes, though there's a 3 second delay but avoiding crashes was what was in mind for that.  Try starting a new game, get everything stable, save, exit, then reload with SBC active and see what happens.

 

Only two out of 368 are; the rest have been converted.  Why would that matter?

 

It would only be Nenya in that particular case.  Innkeeper knowledge isn't Hold specific.  Not sure what's wrong though.

I did as you suggested with no luck. Note not there. I may have to wait for the next version or return to the old one.

[kalador]

When I first spoke to Evska, I had the choices, but did not get the update.

After going down into the cave, across to the island, and coming back up out of the cave, I got the update as soon as I spoke to Evska.  Liberate worked.  Reload.  Escort to Sybille, no option.  Escort to Nenya worked.  Sybille was the mage I spoke to when I was freeing Sabrina.  Reload.  Subjugate worked.

 

Color me confused.

[Blackbird Wanderer]

1 hour ago, kalador said:

I am NOT getting the message that I have located the girls, and that is the point at which everything comes to a screeching halt.

Ok, at least we know where it's halting.  It sounds like it's failing at the initial dialogue script, and not the vastly more complicated one triggered by succeeding in Release/Subjugate/Escort.  We may need to try some tailored diagnostic scripts if you're up for some experimentation.

 

53 minutes ago, Toedy said:

I did as you suggested with no luck. Note not there. I may have to wait for the next version or return to the old one.

We'll just have to rig a failsafe trigger, and may be able to reuse the proximity trigger already there to prompt the opening agreement.  You can be the test case for that if you're willing.

[Blackbird Wanderer]

2 minutes ago, kalador said:

When I first spoke to Evska, I had the choices, but did not get the update.

After going down into the cave, across to the island, and coming back up out of the cave, I got the update as soon as I spoke to Evska.  Liberate worked.  Reload.  Escort to Sybille, no option.  Escort to Nenya worked.  Sybille was the mage I spoke to when I was freeing Sabrina.  Reload.  Subjugate worked.

 

Color me confused.

Erratic non-reproducible results like that sort of points to script lag.  Sometimes it can be aided by building in minor delays that allow the processor to catch up to what's being ordered.  Will experiment.

[Balgin]

5 hours ago, Blackbird Wanderer said:

This also should have been fixed in v0.98e.

Yep. That was back in something like version b. I haven't checked with e yet.

[Toedy]

2 hours ago, Blackbird Wanderer said:

Ok, at least we know where it's halting.  It sounds like it's failing at the initial dialogue script, and not the vastly more complicated one triggered by succeeding in Release/Subjugate/Escort.  We may need to try some tailored diagnostic scripts if you're up for some experimentation.

 

We'll just have to rig a failsafe trigger, and may be able to reuse the proximity trigger already there to prompt the opening agreement.  You can be the test case for that if you're willing.

I am willing to help in any limited (due to skills) way I can. 

[Wolfshrike]

on E ver, now. 

 

Still no paper from Brina. Found and rescued captives in... the one dungeon with the pale lady, I forget the name off top. Apparently though that wasn't the correct camp, so it's back to hunting to try to clear the pale from the quest log. Also ran into a minor conflict with another mod in Robber's gorge- Buxom Wench Yuriana places a bunch of captives there as well, and some of them overlap with SBC captives. Pretty minor overall, I think, since everyone could still be interacted with (And, to be frank, BWY isn't a mod I tend to use every playthrough anyway...) but figured I'd report it as a conflict anyways. 

[as5685009]

I tested on a save without SBC installed this is the first slave.I have cleared all the enemies in the dungeon but the dialogue still can't go to the next step, here is the location and character .0.98e version

Slaves in other territories can work, seems only  the haafingar is stuck, does anyone have the same problem?

Spoiler

Spoiler

 

Edited April 16, 2022 by as5685009
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[kalador]

20 minutes ago, as5685009 said:

I tested on a save without SBC installed this is the first slave.I have cleared all the enemies in the dungeon but the dialogue still can't go to the next step, here is the location and character .0.98e version

Slaves in other territories can work, seems only  the haafingar is stuck, does anyone have the same problem?

Sounds like you still have at least one live bandit somewhere.  You could also try exiting the cave, and coming back in if you are sure that you have killed them all.

[Naps-On-Dirt]

44 minutes ago, as5685009 said:

I tested on a save without SBC installed this is the first slave.I have cleared all the enemies in the dungeon but the dialogue still can't go to the next step, here is the location and character .0.98e version

Depending on your route to the sunken boat in Broken Oar Grotto, you may have missed a couple.  The place is a circle of a route with bridges crossing the two sides in two places.  If you go to the boat straight from the entrance, not going up to the left after the first ramp, there's a guy guarding the bridge on the other side to the left.   There are two guys in a room near the sunken boat as well, which you could completely avoid if you stay along the ledge and don't go inside.

[Naps-On-Dirt]

Sent to Nilheim.  Talk to Telrav and offer to walk him to his camp.  SBC quest updates as we approach with "find the captives in Nilheim".  When the "guards" go aggro I cast Rage at them and chase down Telrav.  When he's finally dead, the last two guards are finished off quickly.  I enter the tower and hear the actual last guard hit the captive.  I run up and engage him and kill him too (though accidentally hit the captive with a shield bash that was not aimed at her, stupid Skyrim) but the quest does not update that I've found her, and she says I have to kill them all before I can help her.   I've searched the area and am pretty sure there are no bandits left, and this new version doesn't have the option to tell the captive not to worry about finding the last guy.  

 

Edit:  I fast travelled to Riften then back to Nilheim in hopes that re-entering the cell would reset stuff and make her see that the bandits are all dead, but it changed nothing.  Quest still did not update that I found her.

Edited April 15, 2022 by Naps-On-Dirt

[llelx]

EDIT: fixed after making my character dance 
Hi having a pretty good run with 0.98e on SE, the bugs I had earlier were fixed and I got through the 2 quests.

 

I've managed to break my player character a little though, probably after equipping dormant restraints briefly:

• When trying to use workbench, tanning rack, enchanting table it cancels right after the UI appears
• character will briefly pose like a captive with arms behind back for a moment and then stand normally
• My character was walking around in that pose for brief moments at one point but that's gone

have tried various things to shake it off but I'm not having any luck

Edited April 15, 2022 by llelx

[annoying1]

14 hours ago, Blackbird Wanderer said:

Then you have your preference.  It's a mix of both interwoven together so it should appeal to you.

Wonderful! Much appreciated.