Chthonic Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 Actually to correct the "vcomp120.dll is missing" error, you only need to install the latest copy of Visual C++ (2012 or better) .. you don't need the full studio package.. even the express version will fix it. But they demand that you create an account to get the express studio package.. and I "refuse"!! LOL... http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=30679 this link will take you to the current version page. the install took a matter of seconds. there is an update package for VSE that you can get without an account login.. that should also fix the issue.. since there is a very light version of VS integrated into the windows OS VC++ distributable installs the base support files for the programs coded through visual studio... they are basic to windows, but sometimes a software install will remove it.. this is a bug that has existed in VC++ for more than 10yrs.. yet MS refuses to correct it. so I just keep a recent copy of the installer on hand and run it everytime another program initiates a C++ search/support install this link is for the direct support page listing all versions... http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2019667 I also noticed that the error only takes place when launching SKSE via NMM and not through the skse_launcher.exe. This might actually be an issue with the mod manager and not the mod. (trouble-shooting and sometimes shooting trouble is what I do best!!!... and people wonder why my lawyer never runs out of money)
Kinky Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 Expressions have been fairly jarring for me. Often their teeth stay more closed, and thus disconnected from their mouths. http://i.imgur.com/kOJWvmy.jpg They also are just kind of scary because they do not move at all, it is like fucking a screaming doll. That may be impossible to avoid, but for now I think I will keep them off. Neutral expressions are a bit weird, but at least they aren't creepy. I also had a case of sex interrupting to applaud a bard and a case of someone requiping their armour during sex. I should have checked the console messages then, but forgot. Yeah thats the scary expression i mentioned earlier. Also i forgot to mention applaud a bard bug. Had that as well.
Fredas Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 Cannot help but recommend some means of specifying what stage on which to start the animation sequence. For example, setting SetTimers to -1 for unwanted stages.
nutluck Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 Enjoyment penalties are given to gay actors in straight pairings, straight actors in gay pairings, straight male actors in female positions, and straight female actors in male positions. This part I disagree with how you have done it, Let me explain. some straight males are perfectly ok being with a female wearing a strapon while they are in the normal female position and get enjoyment from it. Same with straight females wearing one. I think it should be changed to this instead. Enjoyment penalties are given to gay actors in straight pairings and straight actors in gay pairings. Just my personal opinion on the topic. I mean unless you want to open the can of worms of sex act preference. Which I am not suggesting at all, but then I could see where you could have it set where some straight men would be turned off being in the female position regardless of with whom and others might not cause it would be based on their anal sex preference then. Also I did some testing of the newest alpha release it is pretty limited and I didn't have experessions turned on. It was only PC races on PC races, no creature or animal testing. Everything seemed to work but a couple of comments. 1) the actors seemed to get up and get dressed super fast and also standing so close to each other to almost be inside of each other. perhaps slowing the dressing down by a second or two is in order and keeping a small distance between the actors when finished. This is mostly a issue when there is NPC's taking turns and end up in the way of the animation causing weird things to happen like one NPC standing on the other NPC and PC while they are having sex when the second one starts etc. So after sex if possible I think causing them to stand up and be apart a little ways would help a lot with that. 2) Alignment seemed pretty good and once adjusted it got better and better in a hurry so great job with that. Now a couple of suggestions/requests. 1) I asked this before on the main thread and I didn't see that it got added yet so will bring it up here. Have animal/creature cum work the same as humans do. So if a PC has sex with a troll the cum decal gets added just as if it had been a human instead of a troll. 2) Any way to leave the cum decal left on until removed with a rag wiping it off or from bathing in water? Ok this is likely needs to be a add on mod that plugs into sexlab but figured it wouldn't hurt to ask.
Kinky Posted March 28, 2014 Posted March 28, 2014 Enjoyment penalties are given to gay actors in straight pairings, straight actors in gay pairings, straight male actors in female positions, and straight female actors in male positions. This part I disagree with how you have done it, Let me explain. some straight males are perfectly ok being with a female wearing a strapon while they are in the normal female position and get enjoyment from it. Same with straight females wearing one. I think it should be changed to this instead. Enjoyment penalties are given to gay actors in straight pairings and straight actors in gay pairings. First i was against this (not my thing) but it actually makes sense. But this should be toogleable coz most males and females do not want (enjoy) that kind of sex.
Ashal Posted March 28, 2014 Author Posted March 28, 2014 It's such a minor point and specific scenario that doing any sort of checks for it beyond doing it is beyond over complicating an otherwise simple and minor thing. The difference is 3-4 points of enjoyment at most and is mainly just there to add some variance to the numbers. For or against it, it's absolutely nothing to get worked up over.
easykill Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 Is furniture interactivity on the feature list at some point? I have a weakness for ladies leaning on counters in the vanilla game, and Zaz was making some custom sexual furniture I think. Just curious, I do not want to come across as greedy. This framework is p amazing.
Ashal Posted March 29, 2014 Author Posted March 29, 2014 I've released alpha 4 back in the main alpha release post. http://www.loverslab.com/topic/18708-sexlab-framework-development-alpha-3-release-available-03262014/page-55?do=findComment&comment=702817 This mainly just fixes creature animations, but it also changes the system for handling actors during animation; so keep an eye out on that. Apart from that and some relatively minor optimizations, It also adds a new benchmarking utility quest and script, mainly for my own testing purposes so very unlikely to be of any interest to anybody other than modders looking to benchmark stuff themselves.
Erstam Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 Unfortunately things seem pretty much broken for me in Alpha 4. Delayed or repeating undressing animation, NPC partner not stripping, stage advancement not working properly, no orgasm ending effects. Tested with a fresh SexLab install on a clean save, using Matchmaker to start the action. Non-default options are manual stage advancement, disable creature animations, even actors height, undressing animation, and orgasm ending effects. There are errors in the papyrus log that might relate to this. A typical PC-NPC sex act shows like this: [03/29/2014 - 09:40:49PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - Thread[0]: Entering Making State [03/29/2014 - 09:40:49PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - [sslActorAlias <alias ActorAlias004 on quest SexLabThread00 (0C061EEF)>]: Slotted 'Ysolda [03/29/2014 - 09:40:49PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - [sslActorAlias <alias ActorAlias003 on quest SexLabThread00 (0C061EEF)>]: Slotted 'Han Togeki [03/29/2014 - 09:40:50PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Found Animations(32): Missionary, Arrok Missionary, AP Bed Missionary, Doggy Style, Arrok DoggyStyle, AP DoggyStyle, Reverse Cowgirl, Arrok Cowgirl, Arrok Reverse Cowgirl, AP Cowgirl, Sideways Fuck, Arrok Sideways Fuck, AP Shoulder, Hugging Fuck, Standing Fuck, Arrok HugFuck, Arrok Standing Fuck, AP Standing, Arrok Anal, Arrok Blowjob, Arrok 69, AP Blowjob, AP Kneeling Blowjob, AP Standing Blowjob, AP Handjob, Boobjob, Arrok Boobjob, AP Boobjob, Arrok Foreplay, Arrok Sitting Foreplay, Arrok Standing Foreplay, Bleagh FootJob, [03/29/2014 - 09:40:50PM] ERROR: Cannot divide by zero stack: [alias ActorAlias004 on quest SexLabThread00 (0C061EEF)].sslActorAlias.Prepare() - "sslActorAlias.psc" Line 135 [03/29/2014 - 09:40:50PM] ERROR: Cannot divide by zero stack: [alias ActorAlias003 on quest SexLabThread00 (0C061EEF)].sslActorAlias.Prepare() - "sslActorAlias.psc" Line 135 [03/29/2014 - 09:40:50PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Underwear Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:51PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Ring of Resurgence Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:51PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Ring of Minor Stamina Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:52PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: boots Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:52PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Circlet of Peerless Alchemy Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:52PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: clothes Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:53PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Stalhrim Light Bracers Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:53PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Silver Amethyst Ring Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:53PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Gold Sapphire Ring Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:54PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Silver Sapphire Necklace Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:54PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Necklace of Peerless Haggling Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:55PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Dragonplate Helmet Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:55PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Dragonplate Gauntlets Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:55PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Dragonplate Boots Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:56PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Dragonplate Armor Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:56PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Necklace of Shock Abatement Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:58PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Mage's Circlet Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:59PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Necklace of Waterbreathing Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:59PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Master Robes of Alteration Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:41:00PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Gold Diamond Ring Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:41:00PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Gold Diamond Necklace Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:41:00PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Ring of Peerless Archery Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:41:00PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Ring of Recovery Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:41:01PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Gold Jeweled Necklace Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:41:01PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Leather Boots Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:41:01PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Leather Bracers Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:41:02PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Necklace of Disease Immunity Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:41:02PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Aetherial Crown Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:41:02PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Locket of Saint Jiub Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:41:02PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Amulet of Articulation Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:41:03PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Necklace of Poison Immunity Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:41:07PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - animating: Starting Stage: 1 [03/29/2014 - 09:41:18PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - animating: Starting Stage: 2 [03/29/2014 - 09:41:24PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - animating: Starting Stage: 3 [03/29/2014 - 09:41:32PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - animating: Starting Stage: 4 [03/29/2014 - 09:42:09PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - animating: Starting Stage: 5 [03/29/2014 - 09:42:10PM] ERROR: Incorrect number of arguments passed. Expected 4, got 3. stack: <empty stack>
Aceto Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 Unfortunately things seem pretty much broken for me in Alpha 4. Delayed or repeating undressing animation, NPC partner not stripping, stage advancement not working properly, no orgasm ending effects. Tested with a fresh SexLab install on a clean save, using Matchmaker to start the action. Non-default options are manual stage advancement, even actors height, undressing animation, and orgasm ending effects. There are errors in the papyrus log that might relate to this. A typical PC-NPC sex act shows like this: [03/29/2014 - 09:40:49PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - Thread[0]: Entering Making State [03/29/2014 - 09:40:49PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - [sslActorAlias <alias ActorAlias004 on quest SexLabThread00 (0C061EEF)>]: Slotted 'Ysolda [03/29/2014 - 09:40:49PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - [sslActorAlias <alias ActorAlias003 on quest SexLabThread00 (0C061EEF)>]: Slotted 'Han Togeki [03/29/2014 - 09:40:50PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Found Animations(32): Missionary, Arrok Missionary, AP Bed Missionary, Doggy Style, Arrok DoggyStyle, AP DoggyStyle, Reverse Cowgirl, Arrok Cowgirl, Arrok Reverse Cowgirl, AP Cowgirl, Sideways Fuck, Arrok Sideways Fuck, AP Shoulder, Hugging Fuck, Standing Fuck, Arrok HugFuck, Arrok Standing Fuck, AP Standing, Arrok Anal, Arrok Blowjob, Arrok 69, AP Blowjob, AP Kneeling Blowjob, AP Standing Blowjob, AP Handjob, Boobjob, Arrok Boobjob, AP Boobjob, Arrok Foreplay, Arrok Sitting Foreplay, Arrok Standing Foreplay, Bleagh FootJob, [03/29/2014 - 09:40:50PM] ERROR: Cannot divide by zero stack: [alias ActorAlias004 on quest SexLabThread00 (0C061EEF)].sslActorAlias.Prepare() - "sslActorAlias.psc" Line 135 [03/29/2014 - 09:40:50PM] ERROR: Cannot divide by zero stack: [alias ActorAlias003 on quest SexLabThread00 (0C061EEF)].sslActorAlias.Prepare() - "sslActorAlias.psc" Line 135 [03/29/2014 - 09:40:50PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Underwear Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:51PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Ring of Resurgence Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:51PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Ring of Minor Stamina Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:52PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: boots Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:52PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Circlet of Peerless Alchemy Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:52PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: clothes Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:53PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Stalhrim Light Bracers Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:53PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Silver Amethyst Ring Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:53PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Gold Sapphire Ring Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:54PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Silver Sapphire Necklace Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:54PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Necklace of Peerless Haggling Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:55PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Dragonplate Helmet Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:55PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Dragonplate Gauntlets Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:55PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Dragonplate Boots Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:56PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Dragonplate Armor Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:56PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Necklace of Shock Abatement Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:58PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Mage's Circlet Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:59PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Necklace of Waterbreathing Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:40:59PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Master Robes of Alteration Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:41:00PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Gold Diamond Ring Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:41:00PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Gold Diamond Necklace Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:41:00PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Ring of Peerless Archery Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:41:00PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Ring of Recovery Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:41:01PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Gold Jeweled Necklace Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:41:01PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Leather Boots Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:41:01PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Leather Bracers Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:41:02PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Necklace of Disease Immunity Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:41:02PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Aetherial Crown Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:41:02PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Locket of Saint Jiub Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:41:02PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Amulet of Articulation Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:41:03PM] -- SexLab -- NOTICE: Necklace of Poison Immunity Is Strippable [03/29/2014 - 09:41:07PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - animating: Starting Stage: 1 [03/29/2014 - 09:41:18PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - animating: Starting Stage: 2 [03/29/2014 - 09:41:24PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - animating: Starting Stage: 3 [03/29/2014 - 09:41:32PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - animating: Starting Stage: 4 [03/29/2014 - 09:42:09PM] -- SexLab -- Thread[0] - animating: Starting Stage: 5 [03/29/2014 - 09:42:10PM] ERROR: Incorrect number of arguments passed. Expected 4, got 3. stack: <empty stack> Likewise with me. I have exactly the same issue. After installation of Alpha 4 absolutely nothing works any more.
Ashal Posted March 29, 2014 Author Posted March 29, 2014 run the clean system function from the MCM page, and try again, and post full debug log
Erstam Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 OK, here's the full log, after running Clean System, left everything at default. Two PC-NPC and one NPC-NPC acts. I've noticed that females strip first and then immediately redress.
Ashal Posted March 29, 2014 Author Posted March 29, 2014 Apply this patch to the install and get a new debug log: scripts.zip It shouldn't fix anything, but it will spam your debug log with a ton more lines to help pinpoint where it's failing.
easykill Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 I'll do more and proper testing later, but for now: scenes were taking a while to initiate and it equipped my character with a strap-on even though she has a penis. That last bit may not be new, I am just testing out the SOS addon now.
Aceto Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 In my case after installing you patch (and cleaned by MCM) now it work much better. There are only slight delays. Go on testing.
Ashal Posted March 29, 2014 Author Posted March 29, 2014 Here it is, same pairings as before. Papyrus.0.log.txt According to everything in all of your debug logs there is nothing wrong at all, all the events are triggering the the scene progressing normally.
Aceto Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 Still have heavy delays and undress issue finally no undress of NPC. Threesome is totally inconsistent.
Erstam Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 Here it is, same pairings as before. Papyrus.0.log.txt According to everything in all of your debug logs there is nothing wrong at all, all the events are triggering the the scene progressing normally. Strange, what's going on here? If Alpha 4 runs flawlessly for anyone, please post here too, then it must be a compatibility issue. Anyway, here's my load order: Skyrim.esm Update.esm Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Dawnguard.esm Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp HearthFires.esm Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp ApachiiHair.esm RaceCompatibility.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm SexLab.esm Brawl Bugs CE.esp RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp Better Dynamic Snow.esp Auto Unequip Ammo.esp SexLabMatchMaker.esp Player Size Adjuster.esp SkyUI.esp Gildergreen Regrown.esp HouseOfHorrorsAlternateEnding.esp Run For Your Lives.esp When Vampires Attack.esp The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp ImmersiveFP.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp Convenient Horses.esp UnreadBooksGlow.esp Command Dragon.esp OrientalRace.esp Quite minimalistic, isn't it? No problems here with Alpha 1 and 2. Only thing I recently changed was switching to the latest SOS beta, but deactivating SOS doesn't help. Neither does including the FNIS Creature Pack - I usually don't use the creatures feature and keep it deactivated in the SexLab MCM.
easykill Posted March 30, 2014 Posted March 30, 2014 Ok, I created a stripped down profile for testing in MO and started from a new save. The delay vanished, so that was a conflict or a result of forgetting to clean before upgrading. Women instantly re-equip their clothes, and when I loaded into the dark brotherhood I saw Astrid flash naked and back into her clothing even though she wasn't in sex, I am not sure if that is connected. NPCs retain expressions after turning expressions off if you change the setting while they are loaded, as far as I can tell. Did not try reloading, I imagine it would fix it. NPCs outside of the cell were unaffected. http://i.imgur.com/yXdj4zB.jpg <-Astrid having sex after she put her clothes back on and showing expressions when she should not. I was playing with sos for unp, and seeing it hanging at a weird angle made me realize it shouldn't have been hanging at all, it makes sense to introduce sos hooks for erections in every animation regardless of whether that actor will be penetrating. A courier talked to me during sex, but it did not seem to affect anything. Debug: http://pastebin.com/vWDw6wTC Load order(If you want I can get rid of more stuff, I just wanted it to be pretty): Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmUnofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Version 2.0.3Dawnguard.esmUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Version 2.0.3HearthFires.esmUnofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Version 2.0.3Dragonborn.esmUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Version 2.0.3Skyrim Project Optimization - No Homes - Full Version.esmSchlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm Version 2.03.010bSexLab.esm Version 1.40 ALPHASexLabAroused.esmZaZAnimationPack.esmSharedSeranaDialogue.esmBetter Dynamic Snow.espFurther Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp Version 1.08Auto Unequip Ammo.espLoversComfort.espSexLabMatchMaker.esp Version 5RaceMenu.espRaceMenuPlugin.espRaceMenuOverlays.espSkyUI.esp Version 4.1AMB Glass Variants Lore.espDifferently Ebony.espImmersiveFP.espSchlongs of Skyrim.esp Version 2.05.012SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.espSOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.espSOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.espSOS - Smurf Average Addon.espSOS - Dawnguard Armors.espSexLab Submit.espaMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.espTamriel Reloaded.espTheEyesOfBeauty.esp Version 9The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.espAlternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Version 2.3.6dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.espethereal_elven_overhaul.espSexLab Solutions v2.espSexLab Submit Serana.esp
Kinky Posted March 30, 2014 Posted March 30, 2014 Unfortunately things seem pretty much broken for me in Alpha 4. Delayed or repeating undressing animation, NPC partner not stripping, stage advancement not working properly, no orgasm ending effects. I have the same issues. Also expressions are still broken ( 2 of them make npcs look like they were watching movie The Ring) and sometimes they stay on even after sex. "It also changes the system for handling actors during animation" Im not sure what is changed but this new system seems to work better then before - PC and NPC dont teleport to each others spot during stage change anymore or at least i didnt see that happen again or as much. (there was a time when lydia was teleported behind my girl for some anal action but i guess thats as it should be since there is no walk to spot during sex so teleport is best solution for now) Undressing and equipping strapon seems to be the problem though. There should probably be some check to see if character is dressed, half dressed wearing strapon or nude. I was getting NPC undressing animation like 3 times at start of the sex then when PC was undressed npc would undress, stop undressing and get fully dressed instantly then move to foreplay scene. Not sure if NPC was waiting for PC or simply didnt recognize that it was half naked already or maybe it didnt recognize foreplay or stage 1 (stage 1 should be fully naked)... Also there was again bug where NPC was humping air while player was equipping strapon. Even actor heights is a mystery for me. Im not sure if it makes PC and NPC same height. Theoreticaly it shouldnt be needed or recomended with system using race to race settings. In alpha 3 it seemed to help to have it on, now it seems it makes things worse in alpha 4. Idea/possible solutions Instead of manualy enabling/disabling expressions and lip sync - why not automaticaly switch between them (there is already time settings for sex sounds) So instead of current system (sound - lip sync, 5 sec pause, sound - lip sync) you could make upgraded one (sound - expression, 5 sec pause, sound - lip sync) Instead of foreplay + 5 main stages there should also be stand by phases to avoid npcs humping air something like this: 1. Start sex phase - Actors are selected and move to position (or teleport as it is) 2. Stand by phase - if foreplay is enabled actors will get half naked (at least 3 sec delay between actors so they dont hit heads during undressing animation) if not then fully naked (play undressing animation in both cases) if all actors are ready and in place then move to next stage else play idle animation on waiting actor. 3. Foreplay phase - if enabled 4. Stand by phase - if half naked then get fully undressed and check if one of the actors needs to equip strapon for next stage 5. Main phase 1 - stage 1 animation begins 6. Stand by phase - only to see if strapon is required for next stage. if all is ready go to main phase 2 if not play its equipping/unequipping time (undress animation + idle if waiting on other actors) 7. Main phase 2 - stage 2 animation 8. Stand by phase - another strapon and position check 9. Main phase 3 - stage 3 animation ... 13. Main phase 5 - stage 5 animation 14. Stand by phase - apply cum effect, camera shaking, preparation for ending sex 15. Dressing up - play undress animation, equip all armor (if enabled in mcm) Edit: forgot to mention i was using sexlab alpha 4, sexlab submit. hit the rebuild all in mcm but had same bugs as others. And this was from existing save (the same one i used for testing alpha 3). Dont have papyrus log but i think it would be the same as for others.
Ashal Posted March 30, 2014 Author Posted March 30, 2014 Nothing I can do about expressions, they vary greatly between races and installed character creation or facial animation mods a user might have installed. Though they work perfectly fine for me, welcome to why I wanted to remove them entirely and why they'll be disabled by default in release.
Kinky Posted March 30, 2014 Posted March 30, 2014 Nothing I can do about expressions, they vary greatly between races and installed character creation or facial animation mods a user might have installed. Though they work perfectly fine for me, welcome to why I wanted to remove them entirely and why they'll be disabled by default in release. Are you using this mod? http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/35303/? I have it installed maybe they are conflicting... Also using Racemenu and only vanilla races... Ill try without that linked mod and see if it works better for expressions. Edit: Nope there is a hole below teeth even with that mod disabled and FNIS rebuilt.
easykill Posted March 30, 2014 Posted March 30, 2014 Nothing I can do about expressions, they vary greatly between races and installed character creation or facial animation mods a user might have installed. Though they work perfectly fine for me, welcome to why I wanted to remove them entirely and why they'll be disabled by default in release. Is it easy to define the presets Sexlab uses? I would have no problem with tweaking myself.
Ashal Posted March 30, 2014 Author Posted March 30, 2014 For the people mentioning issues with the delay and unstripping, try this patch: patch.zip I continue to have no issue and am unable to replicate it, so I make a poor test case for it working or not. Anecdotally though it does run a little faster for me with the changes in this patch.
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