Bruhgggg Posted March 21, 2022 Posted March 21, 2022 I clicked build to create a character that I designed in bodyslide only to go into the game and see that nothing has changed. So I then went to check to see if the files in Skyrim SE/data/meshes/actors/character/character assets, to see if files have changed. and surely enough both femalebody_0.nif and femalebody_1.nif are getting changed but in game nothing is happening. So why isn't the game changing? I have wiped my game twice to see if it was other stuff overriding it, which wasn't the cause. I have manually installed it. manually overridden the two files. I am at a complete loss on why it will not change the nude and clothed body in Skyrim. Thanks in advance.
worik Posted March 21, 2022 Posted March 21, 2022 It looks like you are playing the Skyrim SE version ? Though, you are here in the Skyrim LE tech support. But don't worry, I already asked a moderator to move your question to the correct section. ? Good luck.
Grey Cloud Posted March 21, 2022 Posted March 21, 2022 4 hours ago, Bruhgggg said: I have wiped my game twice to see if it was other stuff overriding it, If you are doing that then it means you haven't done much reading on how to mod Skyrim. https://www.loverslab.com/topic/136543-mod-organizer-2-other-tools-from-zero-to-hey-sexlab-is-working/ https://www.loverslab.com/topic/118460-skyrim-se-for-beginners-v-319-3bbb-hdt-smp-hph/ If you are using MO then is that where the files should go? Is it every female NPC and your PC or just the NPCs? If you are using a custom body for your PC then that body will be in a different location.
PippinTom Posted March 21, 2022 Posted March 21, 2022 9 hours ago, Bruhgggg said: So I then went to check to see if the files in Skyrim SE/data/meshes/actors/character/character assets It may be stupid question on my part, but the only thing I know from your description is that you've build just a base body. So - have you tried to strip naked your character ingame to verify if it really looks different than expected (while without clothes/armors)?
anjenthedog Posted March 21, 2022 Posted March 21, 2022 BTW, the point to the previous reply above mine is that when you're wearing clothes or armor, you're almost 100% sure to also be wearing the body (that is, whatever body shows) that's been built for those clothes or armor, since the body is slot-32, as is the body piece of armors and clothing (and its "naked" skin, if any). Ie, one replaces the other, it doesn't just cover it. So, unless you "fitted" the armor/clothing for the body, it's not going to represent in game as such, no matter the "status" of your naked body. When you're naked, you're "wearing" a slot -32 naked body (or never nude, depending on what you built when fitting the armor/clothing in bodyslide), and when you're wearing the body piece for say, Ebony armor, you're wearing ebony armor, with little bits of skin wherever it protrudes from underneath. There is no "body" hiding behind that armor. Just hollow space, since the armor itself IS your body when equipped. All else is illusion.
TheWilloughbian Posted March 21, 2022 Posted March 21, 2022 Another thing to note, if you are trying to make changes to an NPC, is that character weights are baked into the save. Not sure how body slide edits work into this though. It may be that you need to start a new game to see any changes you are making to an NPC, if this is the case.
Just Don't Posted March 21, 2022 Posted March 21, 2022 1 hour ago, TheWilloughbian said: Another thing to note, if you are trying to make changes to an NPC, is that character weights are baked into the save. Not sure how body slide edits work into this though. It may be that you need to start a new game to see any changes you are making to an NPC, if this is the case. Not quite. The weight of an NPC is defined in its record, so if we're talking about a vanilla NPC it would be in skyrim.esm, dawnguard.esm, or whatever DLC is from. If a mod changes the same records then the game will use info from these plugins (ex. appearance overhauls like Bijin, Pandorable, etc.). You can also edit the weight of an NPC with console commands, and this is baked into your save as it's not a permanent record change. The weight of any actor can go from 0 to 100 (this is the vanilla Weight slider in the creation char menu). To represent these weight variants the game has *_0.nif and *_1.nif files which are files generated when you use BodySlide. So as long as all the sets are properly built in BS using the same preset the changes should be seen ingame next time you launch the game, for both player character and NPCs. Cases in which this doesn't happen involve other mods altering the default path for actor meshes and textures (like a unique player race/body, or one of these diverse bodies for NPCs). Or the more common occurrence is users not building all the sets needed, or using BS + the mod manager in a wrong way (ex. using BS outside of MO) or letting another mod overwrite the files generated by BS... which is something very rare and I don't think it's achievable on any mod manager unless things are very out of hands.
Bruhgggg Posted March 22, 2022 Author Posted March 22, 2022 14 hours ago, PippinTom said: It may be stupid question on my part, but the only thing I know from your description is that you've build just a base body. So - have you tried to strip naked your character ingame to verify if it really looks different than expected (while without clothes/armors)? I have done tests with taking off the armor and it works but for only the preset that I choose when I installed CBBE, but it does not work the new preset/creation that I had made. So bodyslide/CBBE clearly can edit the body I just don't understand why it doesn't work it when I make my own/edit a body. On another note, I have gotten BUHNP UUNP stuff to work with bodyslide perfectly fine except for the nude body but almost no armors will batch build correctly because most armors are built for CBBE which is why I am a little upset as to why it wont work. I am also using Vortex if that helps at all.
anjenthedog Posted March 22, 2022 Posted March 22, 2022 FYI the mod manager you use is very likely unrelated to your issue. Since you've said that you built the body in Bodyslide and it's not showing up once in game, you likely have a pathing issue, since the product of your build isn't being placed in your player mesh folder Visit the Bodyslide and Outfit Studio mod page and read their helpful materials. Afaik, they have some stuff on dealing with pathing issues.
Just Don't Posted March 22, 2022 Posted March 22, 2022 8 hours ago, Bruhgggg said: I just don't understand why it doesn't work it when I make my own/edit a body. You need to save the changes you made to a preset before building stuff with it. 8 hours ago, Bruhgggg said: I have gotten BUHNP UUNP stuff to work with bodyslide perfectly fine except for the nude body but almost no armors will batch build correctly because most armors are built for CBBE which is why I am a little upset as to why it wont work. If you're using BHUNP you shouldn't be using anything CBBE related. You would need to get a mod providing BS files for all the BHUNP outfits you want to build. Then batch build your BHUNP sets using a preset (and like I said above, you save the changes made to any preset before building anything with it). That's how you make things work.
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