(OLD) Pregnancy Weighted TBBP Body for Bodyslide++

[jacques00]

Installed XPMS fist, then CHSHBC, then CBBE, added the sliders in CB++ main, as well as the one from here.  Used Bodyslide++ to make the pregnancy mesh, and it still won't show up in Estrus Chaurus.

 

Maybe install XPMS last (or leave everything you have right now, uninstall XPMS, then reinstall it), if that helps. The skeleton should be the last thing you overwrite since CHSHBC has it's own skeleton that replaces the vanilla one, if I remember properly.

 

[Dracurse]

I'm having trouble as well.

Whenever the character gets naked I get CTD.

 

Didn't have that issue before I installed this, but back then I get a big belly either.

[dubird]

 

Installed XPMS fist, then CHSHBC, then CBBE, added the sliders in CB++ main, as well as the one from here.  Used Bodyslide++ to make the pregnancy mesh, and it still won't show up in Estrus Chaurus.

 

Maybe install XPMS last (or leave everything you have right now, uninstall XPMS, then reinstall it), if that helps. The skeleton should be the last thing you overwrite since CHSHBC has it's own skeleton that replaces the vanilla one, if I remember properly.

 

 

 

Ah, that did it!  Thanks, I just had the wrong order.  ><  I'll make a note of that for next time.

[Pamfolette]

Hi,

your meshes work very well. I have a suggestion, from an aesthetic/anatomical point of view: in version 1.03, the lower part of the belly grows more than the middle and upper parts; IMHO, the central area of the belly should be the one with more weight in (see pictures) . Secondly, I would add some (light) weight to the whole costal arch as well, under the breasts (actually, in the last phase of pregnancy, the belly grows so much that the breasts almost end up laying over the belly).

BTW, thanks a lot for your mod!

[zecoron]

Hi,

your meshes work very well. I have a suggestion, from an aesthetic/anatomical point of view: in version 1.03, the lower part of the belly grows more than the middle and upper parts; IMHO, the central area of the belly should be the one with more weight in (see pictures) sunset.jpeg sunset-background.jpg. Secondly, I would add some (light) weight to the whole costal arch as well, under the breasts (actually, in the last phase of pregnancy, the belly grows so much that the breasts almost end up laying over the belly).

BTW, thanks a lot for your mod!

 

Certainly true for a single child. For triplets, not necessarily the case. I'll be making different versions as I improve the weighting on the original bodyslide meshes... mostly to cater to different bodyslide presets. The nature of node scaling kind of prevents single mesh solutions that allow people to build a full range of bodies without improper scaling. It's also prone to  texture distortion. I really think BodyMorph would be a better solution if it were supported, as it would not need any armor conversion that could not be (somewhat) automated... would certainly have better results, but would be more difficult to implement and integrate. However that project is neither finished nor supported at this point so that's out of the discussion. It depends on how modding progresses I suppose.

 

Granted I have to accommodate more extreme pregnancies but, more-so, the issue is that the center of growth emanates from the location of the node on the skeleton itself... as it stands it's probably workable; yet uncertain whether or not I will need to eventually release a skeleton with this mod. I have custom compatibility skeleton for my own use completed that fixes various issues with xpms, however, for compatibility it has the same node location. It would be a fast edit, and I could rebuild the bodies around it, but that would not be suited for general use as my skeleton has other various tweaks that may not popular with everyone. It's something I would like to avoid doing I suppose, as a simpler mod is easier to support... and it's more easy to focus on other aspects.

 

I do agree completely with adding weight under the breasts, but unfortunately I had to remove those very weights because I was hitting the weight limit in that area. It's a limitation I'd rather not have to deal with while working with such rough assets... I'm working on a more ground-up release atm which should solve that. These early releases are more exploratory than anything, as I don't even necessarily know what sort of assets will be necessary in the future. Now would be a bad time to commit to any specific thing given the state of modding.

[Buggy]

hmm... would you mind adding some pictures? I only have oblivion right now... thinking of skyrim... seeing how good pregnant models look would help.

 

and if it's not too much Id like to see examples too of first person pregnancy and also big big big bellies.

[Gᴀʟᴠᴀɴɪᴢᴇ]

I am having a issue, when I try and edit the bodies with bodyslide then save and load it in game, the edits never saves it automatically reverts back to the original settings that came with the file?

 

EDIT: It fixed itself, strange though because I have the breasts all the way down and they don't look to small, o well, thanks for this release!

[Bashis]

im trying to get a body rigged with both butt bounce and the working belly node for pregnancy, because as far as i can tell there isnt one readily available that have tbbp in both breasts and butt, AND a belly node for prego, so the easiest way i can think of doing it is take a breasts/butt mesh that i already have, and use nifskope to add the belly node. my question is, in depth, how would i go about attaching the belly node and configuring it so that it works with the plugins that use belly inflation?

figured this is the place to ask, since the maker of this thread already knows how to make the bellys work

[zecoron]

I am having a issue, when I try and edit the bodies with bodyslide then save and load it in game, the edits never saves it automatically reverts back to the original settings that came with the file?

 

EDIT: It fixed itself, strange though because I have the breasts all the way down and they don't look to small, o well, thanks for this release!

 

I'm stumped. Sounds like a bodyslide problem. If it were something wrong with the vertex numbering your preset would look more like a giant pineapple... let me know if you have any pineapple related problems right away.

 

im trying to get a body rigged with both butt bounce and the working belly node for pregnancy, because as far as i can tell there isnt one readily available that have tbbp in both breasts and butt, AND a belly node for prego, so the easiest way i can think of doing it is take a breasts/butt mesh that i already have, and use nifskope to add the belly node. my question is, in depth, how would i go about attaching the belly node and configuring it so that it works with the plugins that use belly inflation?

figured this is the place to ask, since the maker of this thread already knows how to make the bellys work

 

You mean no bodies that have tbbp besides mine and the unp one?

 

Either way...

 

1. Import a skeleton with belly node such as xpms into 3ds max (you'll have to rename the unnamed nodes in the knees and before the breasts in nifskope first... or simply merge the belly node from another max file... like the one in his 1.6 modders resource pack available on his nexus page into your skeleton.
2. Import your body.
3. make sure the body is correctly offset. see this page.
4. Add the belly node to your envelopes in the skin modifier.
5. Auto key the belly node's scale at the end of the timeline to something around 500 or 600%.
6. Paint the belly weight.
7. Make sure everything is under the same smoothing group.
8. Export the body mesh as a nif.
9. Correct the incorrect lines in NiTriShapeData and BSLightingShaderProperty if applicable.

[Bashis]

alright, thanks for the little guide, i'm sure i can figure it out with this info

[BeastInShadows]

the belly dosn't grow for me. i did what the instructions said but it dosn't work and i can't figure it out

[jacques00]

the belly dosn't grow for me. i did what the instructions said but it dosn't work and i can't figure it out

 

What are you doing to it to make it grow?

 

Basically, if you follow this order, you'll have no problems:

1. Install body replacer (CBBE)
2. Install BodySlide++
3. Install any pregnancy/belly altering mod of your choice
4. Install skeleton (XPMS or other compatible skeleton--make sure it is installed last after any other skeleton replacer)
5. Run FNIS if you have custom animations (this is optional, but just in case)
6. Builld your custom body using Bodyslide++ and the proper slider preset (CB++ TBBP Belly/Big50)
7. Load up Skyrim and unequip items that replace the body (essentially, get a naked character)
8. Begin actions of any pregnancy mod that alters the belly
9. Wait in-game if necessary (be patient, sometimes it takes over long periods of time)
10. ???
11. Belly should show signs of growth

 

Hope this helps!

[BeastInShadows]

 

the belly dosn't grow for me. i did what the instructions said but it dosn't work and i can't figure it out

 

What are you doing to it to make it grow?

 

Basically, if you follow this order, you'll have no problems:

1. Install body replacer (CBBE)
2. Install BodySlide++
3. Install any pregnancy/belly altering mod of your choice
4. Install skeleton (XPMS or other compatible skeleton--make sure it is installed last after any other skeleton replacer)
5. Run FNIS if you have custom animations (this is optional, but just in case)
6. Builld your custom body using Bodyslide++ and the proper slider preset (CB++ TBBP Belly/Big50)
7. Load up Skyrim and unequip items that replace the body (essentially, get a naked character)
8. Begin actions of any pregnancy mod that alters the belly
9. Wait in-game if necessary (be patient, sometimes it takes over long periods of time)
10. ???
11. Belly should show signs of growth

 

Hope this helps!

 

yea ive done all that and it didn't work. i just noticed that the body slide had an update tho. im going to update the slider and see if that fixes my issue.

got the update and still no its not working

[jacques00]

 

yea ive done all that and it didn't work. i just noticed that the body slide had an update tho. im going to update the slider and see if that fixes my issue.

got the update and still no its not working

 

 

Check your mod load order--I'm assuming it might be something there that is interfering with your "NPC Belly" node. If you can modify the character's breast size in-game, then the belly should have the potential of working, unless something is preventing it from doing so, of course.

[zecoron]

 

 

yea ive done all that and it didn't work. i just noticed that the body slide had an update tho. im going to update the slider and see if that fixes my issue.

got the update and still no its not working

 

 

Check your mod load order--I'm assuming it might be something there that is interfering with your "NPC Belly" node. If you can modify the character's breast size in-game, then the belly should have the potential of working, unless something is preventing it from doing so, of course.

 

 

Thanks for offering so much support jacques. Sometimes I just don't know what to tell people who say they followed all the steps but it doesn't work.

 

I guess it seems like there's a lot of things that could go wrong, but troubleshooting actually isn't that complicated.

 

 

Why doesn't my belly grow?

Did you build your bodies from the correct sliderset?

Yes.

Are you sure?

Yes.

Mod issue.

 

 

My game crashes when I get naked.

Did you install a compatible skeleton?

Yes.

You didn't install it correctly.

Yes I di- No you didn't.

[jacques00]

 

Thanks for offering so much support jacques. Sometimes I just don't know what to tell people who say they followed all the steps but it doesn't work.

 

I guess it seems like there's a lot of things that could go wrong, but troubleshooting actually isn't that complicated.

 

 

No prob, just trying to help--I assume some users just don't know how certain mods actually work and ask before they try to do any basic troubleshooting or back tracking.

 

I guess you can add a quick FAQ section on the OP that outlines the install order and what the issues may be if all the instructions are followed (like what you had outlined previous post). That might be helpful for newbies.

[danund]

After a silly amount of messing with all the ways this mod can go wrong, I finally have a pregnant belly!  But I was sort of hoping for a higher maximum size, like, burdened with hellspawn size, like, Jacques size =P

Still, this is an amazing mod! I'd endorse in a heartbeat!

Edit: okay figured out how to make slightly larger but still curious about big stomachs.  So there's an issue where it makes it pointy after a certain point or something?  

[zecoron]

After a silly amount of messing with all the ways this mod can go wrong, I finally have a pregnant belly!  But I was sort of hoping for a higher maximum size, like, burdened with hellspawn size, like, Jacques size =P

 

Still, this is an amazing mod! I'd endorse in a heartbeat!

 

Edit: okay figured out how to make slightly larger but still curious about big stomachs.  So there's an issue where it makes it pointy after a certain point or something?  

 

The issue is only distortion. The mod should let you crank up your max size as high as you want, but, somewhat unlike using belly sliders, the vertices become vastly further apart at high scales. While this might have looked okay in an older game, in skyrim it looks like crap... especially considering the larger your belly becomes, the larger the discrepancy between the geometry of the body and it's normals.

[Evilrunner]

yeah that's the big issue. We didn't have the same problem with the fallout pregnant meshes because it was all based on editing the mesh. Even then though we had to increase the vert count around the belly to get the larger sizes to look less blocky. With the node system for skyrim you're pretty much stuck with what scaling the node gives you. (tbh though the node scaling system is much better to work with).

[JUSSME]

if you guys are having issues make sure you have an updated body slider.

unistall everything modwise that is body/ skeleton effecting

 

install cbbe bottom booty with body slide body and body slide.

 

install the body slide mod with extra sliders. read the description. download/install the vanilla armors and killable kheos also . also download/install : look for remodeled vanilla armors for bodyslider with bbp

 

install  aced 2.4 tbbp nude overright everything except the textures.

 

(Optional) you may want to install tbbp dragonfly butt bounce files for the nifs but im pretty sure they are the same thing in adec 2.4 nude

 

install xpms 8.1 skeleton

 

download zecoron's CBBE TBBP mesh pregnancy. install it for your body slider

make sure you right click properties on body slider and allow admin or else batch build wont work

and make your own preset with cbbe tbbp belly or the other one.

 

also look for skyrim ero animations. they are animations like bbp and butt jiggle for sex. look thouroughly for this it may be in japanese websites but i think its here somewhere also.

 

and look for hdt physics which adds bounce and jiggle to the skeleton, not from an animation file, read description and forums about it. you dont have to remove the female char assets animation file but the jjiggle looks more static with it. just back it up just in case. make sure you fnis after words

 

 

 

right now i just need to wait hopefully for armor pregnant support, if anyone knows how to make the armors show up right when your pregnant with the belly and pregnant breast

[shadowbandit]

i was getting CTDs with ashen race until i put the skeleton.nif as skeleton_female.nif but now my game is all glitchy and my person is gone and i'm looking from the floor.

[Guest Jenova23]

I'm a bit confused where do I put the skeleton.nif do I have to use it I am using deadly mutilation and mods that use custom skeletons.

[zecoron]

I'm a bit confused where do I put the skeleton.nif do I have to use it I am using deadly mutilation and mods that use custom skeletons.

 

skeleton.nif is only for joy of perspective users...It's a first person skeleton which I haven't updated it since the last release. Try out jacques' skeleton earlier in the thread if you're using that mod. That's a bit newer. Other than that, you can use all the mods that overwrite skeletons you want, just install xpms last.

[aerd2]

It is not compatible with lastest XP32 body for JOP, it changed some bone numeration ex. Butt bone in this skeleton is around 150 in new it's around 230.

[hater34]

when the belly inflates on the bed my skyrim freezes. Thats my only problem for right now