DaichiTheOne Posted August 27, 2021 Posted August 27, 2021 I was playing my game and everytime I reach Riverwood it crashes, everything else works normal, the animations and all. Load Order.txtThis is my Load Order (I use LE) I also wanted to see my papyrus log, but for some reason is not appearing. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/articles/368/ I followed this guide to make it appear but nothing. If anyone can help me with it.
Sgt. Marge Posted August 27, 2021 Posted August 27, 2021 What mod manager are you using? If it's Mod Organizer 2, you can edit ini files from Tools -> Tool Plugins, make your changes there to enable logging per the guide. As for the crash, it sounds like something that changes the cell is conflicting. It could be as innocuous as an armor mod, they sometimes add chests and barrels to places with armor in them. You could try disabling a few mods at a time and test on a new save to see if you get to a point where the crash stops happening, and then enable a couple at a time from the last group you disabled and narrow it down. If it's reproducible it's likely a mod conflict.
Swe-DivX Posted August 27, 2021 Posted August 27, 2021 4 hours ago, DaichiTheOne said: I was playing my game and everytime I reach Riverwood it crashes, everything else works normal, the animations and all. Load Order.txtThis is my Load Order (I use LE) I also wanted to see my papyrus log, but for some reason is not appearing. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/articles/368/ I followed this guide to make it appear but nothing. If anyone can help me with it. Bijin Wives Bijin NPCs Bijin Warmaidens Have you created a esp patch so they are not overwritten? Add this to your load order https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/108260 Quote 01. 76139 Critter - Simply script fixes 02. 77815 HdtInvisibilityFix_0 11_beta. Will fix invincible followers. Sadly not the bug when hair or tail stretch. Will happen 99% if you have NPC with corrupt tri files, bad CPU with script lag. Easy test is to install a HDT tail mod. If tail is not moving you a mod with tri error. Start disable you follower mods, next race mod to find the errors. 03. 85443 Load Game CTD Fix - An SKSE plugin to prevent crashing that may occur when loading games 04. 100672 Animation Limit Crash Fix LE - The patch fixes the crash on game loading when you install too many animations with FNIS 05. 72725 Crash Fixes - Fixes the save 65000 string error. 06. Skyrim Memory Optimizer - MainFile - This will make your computer fly - Only the Memory Optimizer main file. For users with crappy CPU. 07. Skyrim 60 and 120 FPS Interface - SkyUI Compatibility - This mod converts the Skyrim Interface to 60/120 FPS 08. HDT Sitting Height Fix - A simple plugin make NPC characters seated at the right pos 09. SIZE DOES MATTER - NPCs do not rescale shrink resize when performing idle actions 10. NPC AI Lag Fix - A SKSE plugin, which fixes the bug that the game engine cannot correctly handle the NPC AI process after the player is waiting, sleeping and other events. 11. Creation Kit Stability Performance Fixes - Various fixes and enhancements for the creation kit. Best is to inactivate all mods you are not working on before open CK. Or create a new mod folder for your mods only. 12. Skyrim Priority - Make Skyrim always take most of CPU usage 13. Grid Transition CTD Fix - This mod fixes rare CTD (not so rare if you have many mods) that appears with grid transition. 14. LOOT - Setting the right load order for your mods. Never run this on a save game. 15. BethINI - Bethesda's INI configuration files are a mess. BethINI optimizes the game for increased graphical fidelity and performance.
Grey Cloud Posted August 27, 2021 Posted August 27, 2021 2 hours ago, Swe-DivX said: Bijin Wives Bijin NPCs Bijin Warmaidens Have you created a esp patch so they are not overwritten? And how will that solve crashes near Riverwood? What will overwrite them and how will a patch solve this? If a game is crashing, where is the sense in adding more mods? A properly configured game does not crash on a regular basis near Riverwood or anywhere else. Much more likely is that: 1. The OP doesn't have a clue what they are doing - see the load order - and have just downloaded everything with dangly bits they could find. 2. The old and outdated version of MNC the OP is using is causing the crash. This is relatively common. https://stepmodifications.org/wiki/SkyrimLE:2.10.0 https://www.loverslab.com/blogs/entry/7521-conglomerate-01-installing-skyrim-stability-fixes-tools/
Swe-DivX Posted August 27, 2021 Posted August 27, 2021 6 hours ago, Grey Cloud said: And how will that solve crashes near Riverwood? What will overwrite them and how will a patch solve this? If a game is crashing, where is the sense in adding more mods? A properly configured game does not crash on a regular basis near Riverwood or anywhere else. Much more likely is that: 1. The OP doesn't have a clue what they are doing - see the load order - and have just downloaded everything with dangly bits they could find. 2. The old and outdated version of MNC the OP is using is causing the crash. This is relatively common. https://stepmodifications.org/wiki/SkyrimLE:2.10.0 https://www.loverslab.com/blogs/entry/7521-conglomerate-01-installing-skyrim-stability-fixes-tools/ This will not only crash the game near Riverwood. If you have NPC record changes with ex new factions you have to forward the NPC head parts, or the best solution is to remove them. A properly configured game can crash your game when entering Riverwood on a new game. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/108260
Heroine HoneyCrotch Posted August 27, 2021 Posted August 27, 2021 7 hours ago, Grey Cloud said: The old and outdated version of MNC the OP is using is causing the crash. This is relatively common. I don't ever crash near Riverwood. And I don't use newer version of MNC. I hear tons of users saying you should/have to use newer version, and I certainly do not recommend that you don't,but I don't and I get no crashes near Riverwood. For the record, I don't do dirty stuffs with animals, always assumed that's why I don't have problems on my end with old MNC?
Grey Cloud Posted August 27, 2021 Posted August 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Swe-DivX said: This will not only crash the game near Riverwood. See below and I notice you haven't answered my questions about your Bijin bollocks. 27 minutes ago, Heroine HoneyCrotch said: I don't ever crash near Riverwood. And I don't use newer version of MNC. I hear tons of users saying you should/have to use newer version, "New" means the SLAL version which includes SL Nude Creatures. This has been around for 3-4 years(?) but new comers still manage to grab the old, non-SLAL version. If memory serves it is the wolves near Riverwood which are the problem. The old MNC causes a similar issue in various places with various creatures IIRC. There is a reason why Madmansgun wrote the instructions on the MNC description page.
woodsman30 Posted August 27, 2021 Posted August 27, 2021 15 hours ago, DaichiTheOne said: I reach Riverwood it crashes Age old question not sure why no one stated but it is a vanilla bug. Riverwood is a perfect storm to crash at it has water, NPC, moving mill parts, and heavy scripts as to all that takes place there often means CTD. There have been volumes wrote about it as well as a few other places in Skyrim but, that is the reason. Not load orders, not Mod managers ect...Keep frame rates below 60FPS the physics engine overloads there...make sure you have the appropriate memory and crash fixes.
Heroine HoneyCrotch Posted August 27, 2021 Posted August 27, 2021 51 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said: See below and I notice you haven't answered my questions about your Bijin bollocks. "New" means the SLAL version which includes SL Nude Creatures. This has been around for 3-4 years(?) but new comers still manage to grab the old, non-SLAL version. If memory serves it is the wolves near Riverwood which are the problem. The old MNC causes a similar issue in various places with various creatures IIRC. There is a reason why Madmansgun wrote the instructions on the MNC description page. I use the 3 esp version, very old. To be clear, I don't use MadMans version. Idk what dude wrote on his page, I'm sure he knows what he talking about, I just don't feel like I have ctd problem so I never grabbed his version and I don't crash near Riverwood. Easily could be OP problem, on my end I can't consider it a lock. And even though I have never used MadMans version, I do recommend it.
Grey Cloud Posted August 27, 2021 Posted August 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Heroine HoneyCrotch said: I use the 3 esp version, very old. To be clear, I don't use MadMans version. Idk what dude wrote on his page, I'm sure he knows what he talking about, I just don't feel like I have ctd problem so I never grabbed his version and I don't crash near Riverwood. Easily could be OP problem, on my end I can't consider it a lock. And even though I have never used MadMans version, I do recommend it. Interesting. I think the problem stems from changes to the skeletons for animations rather than good mod/bad mod. Don't know but it is a known issue which crops up on a regular basis in tech support.
donttouchmethere Posted August 27, 2021 Posted August 27, 2021 My guess is the installed mods cause issues Spoiler DLC: HighResTexturePack03 DLC: HighResTexturePack02 DLC: HighResTexturePack01 DLC: HearthFires DLC: Dragonborn DLC: Dawnguard SkyUI Bug fixes Crash fixes Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch skse_ HDT Physics Extensions BodySlide and Outfit Studio HDT Breast And Butt Physics - TBBP BBP Supported UIExtensions NetImmerse Override RaceMenu SexLab Romance V HDT HighHeels System SOS FirstPersonPlugin Remodeled Armor CBBE Bodyslide HDT - Replacer K [SexLab] Sexualized True Wolves of Skyrim for MNC JContainers PapyrusUtil - Modders Scripting Utility Functions SexLab Aroused Creatures v Skyrim HD - 2K Textures Majestic Mountains Lightside Realistic Lighting Overhaul (RLO) Oldrim All-In-One Installer SexLab More Creatures v SexLab Werewolves Sexlab Breeder v dc Calypso Reward Your Followers v SpectatorCrowdsUltra DangerousNight FurtherLoversComfort SpousesEnhanced_version SexLab Attraction 20 adcSexlife SLDialogues SexLab Eager NPCs_ Sleeping Necro sexlab_necro_ TDF Aggressive Prostitution SexLab Trainers SexLab Slut Shout AmorousAdventures xazPrisonOverhaul_V SexLabMindControl SexLab Solutions v Fuz Ro D-oh - Silent Voice Death Alternative - Your Money or Your Life Bijin Wives Bijin NPCs Bijin Warmaidens Immersive Patrols Random Alternate Start Immersive World Encounters Immersive Wenches New Shrine of Azura LE Remodeled Armor CBBEv3M Safety Load Caliente's Vanilla Outfits for CBBE Calientes Beautiful Bodies Edition -CBBE- XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended Static Mesh Improvement Mod NobleSkyrimMod HD-2K Botox for Skyrim Diamond Skin - CBBE and UNP Female Textures I Love Cleavage CBBE and 7B Oppai HDDT SexLabFramework_v Sexlab Sound FX Hip flap replacer SexLabAroused_V SexLab_Aroused_Animations_v SLAnimLoader More Nasty Critters SexLabMatchMaker BakaFactory Animated Beasts Cocks Tempered Skins for Males - SOS Full Version SLAL Anub Human MYSLALPACK v12.0 SLAL Anub Creature SLAL LE Creature Animations by Sailing Rebel SLAL NibblesAnims FurnitureMarkerSex v Unofficial High Resolution Patch Face Light Sofia - The Funny Fully Voiced Follower EVIL LAIR OF HYDRA - PLAYER HOME WITH SEXY GIRLS Relationship Dialogue Overhaul - 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Ciceria (Renewal) Rylt the Goblin ShowRaceMenu Precache Killer Ume Hinata Hyuga (Naruto Series) - Jinxxed Followers Acalypha - Fully Voiced Follower Kreia The Amazing World of Bikini Armor Natasha- Khajiit Youko Follower ApachiiSkyHair Buxom Wench Yuriana Risa Follower Jessica Rabbit (Who Framed Roger Rabbit - Jinxxed Followers Feminine Khajiit Textures (Grey Cat and Leopard) [CBBE] Feminine Argonian Textures (Chameleon and Lizard) [CBBE] RaceCompatibility with fixes Raven the Titan Bulma Briefs from Dragonball - Jinxxed Followers Crethia follower CVR Follower Voices DrunkenSluts Ruby Rose (RWBY Series) CVR Voiced - Jinxxed Followers Amara the Succubus of Fire - A Follower Mod - UUNP CBBE Full HDT SLRetreat Lord_Creature LE 712225344_Lord_HumanLE SLAL_M DogmaMods-LE Pussycats_v SexFactionsFinalV CaptivesV TwinsCC TW Brandywine BrynhildrFollower JillReborn BambiFollower_Clumzor RenegadeFollowers_ Cathedral Weathers and Seasons LE The Humiliation of Wonder Woman Extensible Follower Framework My Home is Your Home (MHiYH 2plus) Veronica Follower v CP_Elsie AliciaPainslutSLcore Abigail the lusty imperial maid v Overwrite EVIL LAIR OF HYDRA - PLAYER HOME WITH SEXY GIRLS That one was great to make the area around riverwood unstable. SexLab More Creatures v A version of this is included in MNC SLAL patches, it's also more stable ShowRaceMenu Precache Killer Already included in RaceMenu SexLab Nude Creatures v + BakaFactory Animated Beasts Cocks That combination is a bad idea, use ABC with MNC SLAL version Remove SL nude creatures if you use MNC SLAL version Install ABC last and overwrite everything creature and XPMSE overwrite XPMSE with MNC too SL Defeat v The NPC-NPC features of that mod are highly unstable, try and deactivate those to get a more stable game Also clean it regularly via Defeat MCM SL defeat needs to register creatures to work properly, with your mix of creature replacers you could get into trouble Try some patches for Defeat that are floating around Followers You have an evil mix there, any 4k followers in riverwood + standalone (means they come with own skeleton)? SexLab Aroused Creatures v if you use an older version deactivate enemy creatures can approach enemies, that caused a lot of instabilities [SexLab] Sexualized True Wolves of Skyrim for MNC I don't know what that is, but if you have true wolfs and patch it with ABC you should be fine already, with any further creature overhauls you get more conflicts while they all fight for wolf dicks ^^ CTD near Riverwood: How long did you play that game? Riverwood is often the first place to visit and thus the first place you crash if something isn't set up right memory: if you crash near riverwood while everything gets loaded you might have an memory issue if you don't use at least a skse.ini you will CTD randomly after about 15-30 min ingame or if you come close to towns/cities or during bigger fights Maybe I'm blind but I don't see any version of Creature Framework installed are all requirements installed for POP or is it an older version? and you combined two prison mods I'm not sure if they even work together (don'tt think it will cause a crash, but you might only be able to trigger only one) I see many texture replacers which replace the same things, 2k everywhere, is your game stable enough to run all those HD textures and why so many variations of the same thing? If this is your first modding attempt you are better off with a smaller LO, because it's hard to troubleshoot with the installed mod combination Quote everything else works normal I doubt that for some unknown reason ?
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