Breaking up

[Evaloves4]

 

 > I can't even remember in how many relationships I was, but I remember most of my breakups. Many of them were because my bf "changed". He ceased to be the person I met and I used to know. Of course, there were men who said the same for me. Nobody is an angel. Thinking about relationships and breakups, many relationships started good, but they ended bad. Some ended in hatred, and very rare, some ended in friendship. It is interesting that most majority would blame the other side for unsuccessful relationship and breakup. There are breakups that wounded us, made us suffer and fell like we might die, but there are breakups that liberated us and after which we ask ourselves: how come I didn't see that she/he is a poser? Please, share about your relationships and breakups.

 

Spoiler

> I am still happily married, living in love triangle. I wrote this post after receiving SMS from my friend who broke up few hours ago.

 

Edited August 11, 2021 by EvalovesEP

[jinsitsu]

54 minutes ago, EvalovesEP said:

 

 > I can't even remember in how many relationships I was, but I remember most of my breakups. Many of them were because my bf "changed". He ceased to be the person I met and used to know. Of course, there were men who said the same for me. Nobody is an angel. Thinking about relationships and breakups, many relationships started good, but they ended bad. Some ended in hatred, and very rare, some ended in friendship. It is interesting that most majority would blame the other side for unsuccessful relationship and breakup. There are breakups that wounded us, made us suffer and fell like we might die, but there are breakups that liberated us and after which we ask ourselves: how come I didn't see that she/he is a poser? Please, share about your relationships and breakups.

Sorry to hear about that  Well people change right? Time will pass and people come and go. I didn't have experience on any breakups, probably because I'm still focusing on myself and to my goals in life but I'm gonna share some encouraging words for you, same what I did for my friends. Y'know being alone doesn’t mean being lonely and miserable, sometimes it's just you're your own best company. It means being independent and whole enough to cope with every problem by yourself. So I know you'll get through this and you’re gonna find someone better, I know it. So for now, just enjoy your life with your friends and family, for it is truly enjoyable and you'll have some time to be yourself again and time will heal you wounds. I feel like you’ve lost so much in these relationships but pull yourself together and start working on that harmony you’ve always had within. 

Edited August 11, 2021 by jinsitsu

[Z0mBieP00Nani]

1 hour ago, EvalovesEP said:

Many of them were because my bf "changed". He ceased to be the person I met and I used to know. Of course, there were men who said the same for me.

 

People change for a number of reasons. It could be that the relationship was built completely on lust, that is the whole reason the person got with you is because they were attracted to you in a physical or sexual sense to such a degree that they were willing to change certain things about themself just to be with you. Of course one can only be fake in that sense for so long before the desire to continue the charade is gone (or perhaps you caught them cheating and it came out then, I don't know), or it may not be lust but a desire for the things that person has or luxuries that person can afford, then once they have what they want "locked down" they get "fat and lazy".

 

There is also the fact that people simply get bored of one another, that "flavor" of whatever brought the two of them together in the first place has gone away, like with a stick of gum, and then what? You spit the "gum" out. Going back to lust, a relationship that is built primarily one sex is like a house built on a hill of compacted wet sand, once a dry spell and some wind come along, that is to say once the sex gets old, once the hill erodes away, and it will eventually, the house collapses then the accusations fly. "You're not the same person I remember" of course they aren't and of course things would seem that way, lust has blinded you, you never really knew them in the first place.

 

Lastly there is always the possibility that the woman manages to get her wish and she changes her man into the man she thinks she wants him to be, instead of just appreciating the man for who he is (and I guess that sort of thing can go both ways, but from my observations changing the S.O. intentionally is usually a female thing). You know that attitude of "I'm going to take this 'bad man' and turn him into a 'good one'"? Well once she has succeeded in that endeavor suddenly (of course) he's "not the same man she fell in love with", his home is different (because she had him change it), his behavior has changed (because she had him change it), his hobbies have changed (because she had him change or get rid of them), his attitude has changed (because she had him change it), he was distant before, maybe difficult to reach, but now he's all.. "clingy". Congratulations, you have now successfully sawed off the branch you were sitting upon, and you're going to blame the "tree" when you come crashing down on your ass?... ?‍♂️

 

By the way, this is just my personal opinion/observation but open relationships are usually a terrible idea and often signify a troubled, insincere, or otherwise failing marriage/relationship. Men are instinctively more territorial over their partners, this is because they have a harder time in the "love" department and there are also other factors at play like paternity fraud (even if that's not an actual threat the more instinctive part of their brain is going to make them feel like it is, remember "mama's baby, papa's maybe"), this is where the jealousy and "mate guarding" behavior comes from. It's not something that can be helped. I once saw an open relationship at play and it was not a pretty thing at all, even though the guy acted like he was ok with what was going on, it was quite obvious to me that he really wasn't, a fact that really came out when he started to drink, he was.. shall we say, a little more honest and loud about how he actually felt. That being said I can tell you what I would be doing if the woman I was with started asking for an open relationship, I would simply be informing her that there is no more relationship and that she is free to do as she pleases. A fitting way to end my rather lengthy take, I think.

[Evaloves4]

1 hour ago, Z0mBieP00Nani said:

People change for a number of reasons. It could be that the relationship was built completely on lust, that is the whole reason the person got with you is because they were attracted to you in a physical or sexual sense to such a degree that they were willing to change certain things about themself just to be with you. Of course one can only be fake in that sense for so long before the desire to continue the charade is gone (or perhaps you caught them cheating and it came out then, I don't know), or it may not be lust but a desire for the things that person has or luxuries that person can afford, then once they have what they want "locked down" they get "fat and lazy".

 

There is also the fact that people simply get bored of one another, that "flavor" of whatever brought the two of them together in the first place has gone away, like with a stick of gum, and then what? You spit the "gum" out. Going back to lust, a relationship that is built primarily one sex is like a house built on a hill of compacted wet sand, once a dry spell and some wind come along, that is to say once the sex gets old, once the hill erodes away, and it will eventually, the house collapses then the accusations fly. "You're not the same person I remember" of course they aren't and of course things would seem that way, lust has blinded you, you never really knew them in the first place.

 

Lastly there is always the possibility that the woman manages to get her wish and she changes her man into the man she thinks she wants him to be, instead of just appreciating the man for who he is (and I guess that sort of thing can go both ways, but from my observations changing the S.O. intentionally is usually a female thing). You know that attitude of "I'm going to take this 'bad man' and turn him into a 'good one'"? Well once she has succeeded in that endeavor suddenly (of course) he's "not the same man she fell in love with", his home is different (because she had him change it), his behavior has changed (because she had him change it), his hobbies have changed (because she had him change or get rid of them), his attitude has changed (because she had him change it), he was distant before, maybe difficult to reach, but now he's all.. "clingy". Congratulations, you have now successfully sawed off the branch you were sitting upon, and you're going to blame the "tree" when you come crashing down on your ass?... ?‍♂️

 

By the way, this is just my personal opinion/observation but open relationships are usually a terrible idea and often signify a troubled, insincere, or otherwise failing marriage/relationship. Men are instinctively more territorial over their partners, this is because they have a harder time in the "love" department and there are also other factors at play like paternity fraud (even if that's not an actual threat the more instinctive part of their brain is going to make them feel like it is, remember "mama's baby, papa's maybe"), this is where the jealousy and "mate guarding" behavior comes from. It's not something that can be helped. I once saw an open relationship at play and it was not a pretty thing at all, even though the guy acted like he was ok with what was going on, it was quite obvious to me that he really wasn't, a fact that really came out when he started to drink, he was.. shall we say, a little more honest and loud about how he actually felt. That being said I can tell you what I would be doing if the woman I was with started asking for an open relationship, I would simply be informing her that there is no more relationship and that she is free to do as she pleases. A fitting way to end my rather lengthy take, I think.

 

> Summarizing your post in one comment: My husband, my wife and I agree that jealousy and possessiveness are two main reasons for breaking up. Also, open relationship can be too, on the other hand. Every extreme isn't good. I knew the girl who broke up with her bf because he loved her too much. You see, when I met my husband, Elf Prince we were very honest about ourselves. We didn't "present" to each other only our bright side, but the dark one too so that we know what we can expect from each other. Now, after 5 years our love is even stronger.

[AKM]

20 hours ago, EvalovesEP said:

Many of them were because my bf "changed".

That is THE number one complaint of women.  Care to guess what the number one complaint of men is?  Yup 'My girlfriend/wife didn't stay the same as she was when I met her.' 

Generally speaking, women want men to change (he was X when we met), men want women to stay the same (she was X when we met).  Neither will work in reality.


The best breakup I ever had was from a woman in college, who i wrote about in the 'Women sluts/Men pigs' thread.  I despise what she became, but must give her full credit for being one of exactly two women who I dated who had the decency to actually TELL me they were no longer interested, instead of just "disappearing" and leaving me to wonder about what the heck was going on.  It's a major reason why I left the dating scene years ago: I just got tired of the absolute bullshit.  And yes, I'm aware that the bullshit came from both sides, but you get to a point where it's simply not worth the hassle anymore.

My last ex did turn into a friend.  I considered us pretty close, despite the fact that I came to hate some aspects of who she was (even though I tried to deal with them anyway, because that's what friends do - to a point).

[Evaloves4]

10 hours ago, AKM said:

That is THE number one complaint of women.  Care to guess what the number one complaint of men is?  Yup 'My girlfriend/wife didn't stay the same as she was when I met her.' 

Generally speaking, women want men to change (he was X when we met), men want women to stay the same (she was X when we met).  Neither will work in reality.


The best breakup I ever had was from a woman in college, who i wrote about in the 'Women sluts/Men pigs' thread.  I despise what she became, but must give her full credit for being one of exactly two women who I dated who had the decency to actually TELL me they were no longer interested, instead of just "disappearing" and leaving me to wonder about what the heck was going on.  It's a major reason why I left the dating scene years ago: I just got tired of the absolute bullshit.  And yes, I'm aware that the bullshit came from both sides, but you get to a point where it's simply not worth the hassle anymore.

My last ex did turn into a friend.  I considered us pretty close, despite the fact that I came to hate some aspects of who she was (even though I tried to deal with them anyway, because that's what friends do - to a point).

> my husband doesn't believe in male-female friendship after breaking up but I do, not from my own example(s) but from my wife's example. She dated a guy who broke up with her after confessing that she is in love with my bf. He was angry at her and my bf that they broke up their friendship. But only for a while. Later on, they restored their friendship and he became very close friend to my wife. We were on his wedding and my husband was his best men, and he was on our triangle wedding and was my husband's best man.

Edited August 12, 2021 by EvalovesEP

[worik]

11 minutes ago, EvalovesEP said:

but I do, not form my own example(s)

I do, too.  Break-ups always hurt, but for me it wasn't ever in anger and nowadays I'm in good terms with my former otherones.

[Evaloves4]

17 hours ago, worik said:

I do, too.  Break-ups always hurt, but for me it wasn't ever in anger and nowadays I'm in good terms with my former otherones.

> I can't say that my breakups were hurtful, but I surely know if my Prince or Ivy break up with me, I will be totally heart broken.

[pinkfluf]

I'll try to cut a loooong story short...

 

Met a girl at a training centre (we''re both 19yrs old), she chases me, said she likes me and all I can say is "oh ok" (never been in a relationship).

Went out with her for a year, she talked about marriage, she even met the parents (she posed as my sisters friend)

Then one day my sis saw her at her school resting her head on some guys lap.

Turns out he was her ex and when he wanted sex and she said "no" and then she dumped him. But now she wanted him back for some reason so she dumps me

Anyway her fruitcake ex wants sex again so she dumps him again. She then has like 20 other guys buying her gifts and stuff but won't get back with me.

 

She ends up marrying a 40yr old businessman.....!

 

Effect it had on me ... constantly analysing the relationship, stopped listening to music (even to this day), couldn't sleep, I ended up drinking a whole bottle of whiskey (thought it didn't work until I got up to shut the lights out and that's when my light went out)!

 

Met a really nice person, she was married but in a abusive relationship (I might go to hell for diddling with a married woman or squirting an old woman one of them) buuut a family member tried to bring us closer but it had the opposite effect.

 

Sorry for the looong story!! night night

[Evaloves4]

23 minutes ago, pinkfluf said:

I'll try to cut a loooong story short...

 

Met a girl at a training centre (we''re both 19yrs old), she chases me, said she likes me and all I can say is "oh ok" (never been in a relationship).

Went out with her for a year, she talked about marriage, she even met the parents (she posed as my sisters friend)

Then one day my sis saw her at her school resting her head on some guys lap.

Turns out he was her ex and when he wanted sex and she said "no" and then she dumped him. But now she wanted him back for some reason so she dumps me

Anyway her fruitcake ex wants sex again so she dumps him again. She then has like 20 other guys buying her gifts and stuff but won't get back with me.

 

She ends up marrying a 40yr old businessman.....!

 

Effect it had on me ... constantly analysing the relationship, stopped listening to music (even to this day), couldn't sleep, I ended up drinking a whole bottle of whiskey (thought it didn't work until I got up to shut the lights out and that's when my light went out)!

 

Met a really nice person, she was married but in a abusive relationship (I might go to hell for diddling with a married woman or squirting an old woman one of them) buuut a family member tried to bring us closer but it had the opposite effect.

 

Sorry for the looong story!! night night

 

>I'm very sorry for all the drama you went through. Unfortunately both genders are jerks sometimes and don't care what consequences their actions will produce.

[Vader666]

People don't change, they just feel comfortable enough to let go of the masquarade.

[Evaloves4]

14 minutes ago, PhysicsPunk said:

Change is vital to success of long-lasting relationships, not a reason for breakup.

 

Humans need to change, constantly improving ourselves. I would NEVER recommend anyone a significant other who refuses to change for the better, who is content with the lifestyle they live now. If the man changes for the better, he MUST leave the woman who refuses to change because that woman is doing nothing to help that man in his path to success. The POINT of a relationship is to do things together more effectively than separately, otherwise a long-term relationship is detrimental to the success of the individual. It's not the same for women though. Women only have a limited time before their opportune window is up. Women should make sure that their ducks are in a row, job, education, class, etc, but they need to choose a good man quickly, which yes, it's hard, especially without a good male rolemodel in your own life, because once their window passes, a woman's choice in good men exponentially drops. Men on the other hand must always shoot for success, because the more successful you are as a man, the more value you are to women and a detrimental woman is better tossed aside because there are plenty of women available who are willing to strive toward a more fruitful style of life that will DEFINITELY be interested in a successful man. Take the movie Wolf of Wallstreet as a prime example. We are only happy when we are being productive and successful, otherwise only misery will befall those who live in mundane contentness; I've seen it too many times, the catalyst for a unfaithful spouse is mundane contentness. Men MUST remove women who do not assist in their success, I've had it in my own life and seen it in others; a woman who does not force you to be better than you are is an anchor that will eventually drown you.

 

It's actually very rare for human to change for the worse. What is most likely the case is that we humans show only our best side for dating, I mean why wouldn't you? Even sociopaths try to act normal on dates to a lot of success. However, as previously mentioned, that masquerade eventually disappears, revealing the true person. Another thing to consider, people have a bad habit of seeing what they want to see, but that habit cant sustain itself forever. Finally, many humans don't know what kind of darkness is inside of them, see the Stanford experiment for more on that matter. Sometimes our significant other realizes that they are rotten to the core and rather than change it, decide to embrace it.

 

> You stressed out many good points here as my limited knowledge of English let me understand. The change that women mostly talking about is the one that most representatives of both genders usually do (consciously or unconsciously) is: pretending to be something that we aren't in order to win the other side to like us more. Once we achieve that goal, the real us comes to the surface. That's is the change which many women and men doesn't like. The changes you are talking about are welcome changes and necessary ones.

Edited August 14, 2021 by EvalovesEP

[Evaloves4]

49 minutes ago, Vader666 said:

People don't change, they just feel comfortable enough to let go of the masquarade.

> I had to delete my earlier reply to your post because I misunderstood it. It make sense what you're talking about.

Edited August 14, 2021 by EvalovesEP

[Kaldor Draigo]

i find relationships tedious to maintain

[Deviljho-san]

For all I know people tend to "love bomb" now. Pretending to be something that they aren't until they get what they want from the other person. But then again I never been in a relationship because of various reasons and because I haven't been in one my opinion doesn't matter. Is what I hear from people who have been but I study how Their relationship goes. So only thing I do is shrug. I would like to ask more question but it'll get problematic.

[catchyorbit]

10 hours ago, PhysicsPunk said:

Change is vital to success of long-lasting relationships, not a reason for breakup.

 

Humans need to change, constantly improving ourselves. I would NEVER recommend anyone a significant other who refuses to change for the better, who is content with the lifestyle they live now. If the man changes for the better, he MUST leave the woman who refuses to change because that woman is doing nothing to help that man in his path to success. The POINT of a relationship is to do things together more effectively than separately, otherwise a long-term relationship is detrimental to the success of the individual. It's not the same for women though. Women only have a limited time before their opportune window is up. Women should make sure that their ducks are in a row, job, education, class, etc, but they need to choose a good man quickly, which yes, it's hard, especially without a good male rolemodel in your own life, because once their window passes, a woman's choice in good men exponentially drops. Men on the other hand must always shoot for success, because the more successful you are as a man, the more value you are to women and a detrimental woman is better tossed aside because there are plenty of women available who are willing to strive toward a more fruitful style of life that will DEFINITELY be interested in a successful man. Take the movie Wolf of Wallstreet as a prime example. We are only happy when we are being productive and successful, otherwise only misery will befall those who live in mundane contentness; I've seen it too many times, the catalyst for a unfaithful spouse is mundane contentness. Men MUST remove women who do not assist in their success, I've had it in my own life and seen it in others; a woman who does not force you to be better than you are is an anchor that will eventually drown you.

 

It's actually very rare for human to change for the worse. What is most likely the case is that we humans show only our best side for dating, I mean why wouldn't you? Even sociopaths try to act normal on dates to a lot of success. However, as previously mentioned, that masquerade eventually disappears, revealing the true person. Another thing to consider, people have a bad habit of seeing what they want to see, but that habit cant sustain itself forever. Finally, many humans don't know what kind of darkness is inside of them, see the Stanford experiment for more on that matter. Sometimes our significant other realizes that they are rotten to the core and rather than change it, decide to embrace it.

 

Most of this is correct and wise. But one thing is profoundly erroneous.

 

10 hours ago, PhysicsPunk said:

a woman who does not force you to be better than you are is an anchor that will eventually drown you.

 

It is not a woman's job to change a man, especially forcefully. The man's change comes from within, at the man's own discretion. A woman in a man's life is a mere passenger who is only allowed to stay on condition that the said passenger makes herself useful through hard and consistent work, i.e. investment into the man. Should the passenger's cost-benefit balance go in the negative, she gets catapulted immediately.

 

As for the anchor, it's correct.

[Vlad19]

You all are lucky.

I have only been in one relationship in my life and it was mainly an experiment more than anything else.

At least you all can actually feel a sexual or love attraction to a real life entity or human... And vice a versa, others are attracted to you.

I was never able to feel any kind of attraction to any real life thing or anyone and I could never tell whether someone was attracted to me either.

Although I'm a sucker for well made art in the form of pictures, animations and paintings but when it comes to real life... Let's just say I can practically walk into a stripper club without even flinching. I was born like this so I can't say it's a problem with society.

 

To everyone reading this.

Look at yourself and be happy if you are able to experience intimate relationships.

Because I can't even do that.

 

Good luck and

God bless you all with

everlasting peace. 

[Evaloves4]

4 hours ago, stingray1995 said:

I'd recommend a high-end, dual-density silicone dildo — problem solved.

 

> Listen, I really have been patient with you. You have been insolent and mean in all my threads. I ask you kindly to stop. If you don't like my subjects, just stop read my posts and stop belittling me. Please.

[Mephisto_VI]

My last relationship did not end well either.  And agreeing with your OP, fault did lie on both sides.  It took me getting to a better place in life to realize my own faults in it.  When things first started out, she did try to help me improve myself, but I just did not recognize some of them for what they were and thought she was attacking me and that was the point where I think things really turned south as a whole.  Near the end she cheated on me.  We started to work things out but didn't get the chance to see where it would have gone.

[Z0mBieP00Nani]

On 8/12/2021 at 8:19 PM, pinkfluf said:

...

 

"Met a girl at a training centre (we''re both 19yrs old), she chases me, said she likes me and all I can say is "oh ok" (never been in a relationship).

Went out with her for a year, she talked about marriage, she even met the parents (she posed as my sisters friend)

Then one day my sis saw her at her school resting her head on some guys lap.

Turns out he was her ex and when he wanted sex and she said "no" and then she dumped him. But now she wanted him back for some reason so she dumps me

Anyway her fruitcake ex wants sex again so she dumps him again. She then has like 20 other guys buying her gifts and stuff but won't get back with me."

 

This sounds a LOT like the one relationship I managed to get into and it is a perfect example of a couple of things, the first thing being "monkey branching" behavior or something that all females will engage in to one degree or another, the other thing that is apparent is that this is a classic "fall guy" situation, or basically you were merely the penis that she chose to run to for support and penetration after (presumably) a bad separation from her ex, in fact it is very likely that the breakup occurred not long before or after she started perusing you. This is almost certainly someone with low self esteem who needs constant validation and is not really good relationship material to begin with (on a side note I'm sure the relationship its self was rather "interesting" in that regard). If you ever find yourself presented with such a situation again (and you will see the signs because they are always familiar), either ditch her right then and there or just don't become attached and play along, "enjoy the ride" while it lasts "when life gives you a lemon..." and all of that, and then move on after the eventual and inevitable breakup with no hard feelings because it was never something that was meant to last in the first place, and trust me that's actually a very good thing as you will see in my next point.

 

"She ends up marrying a 40yr old businessman.....!"

 

Yes, that's hypergamy for you and it is the driving instinct and force behind who a woman ultimately chooses to be with and stay with (or not these days, since women today live in an environment that makes having a man unnecessary). I wouldn't fret too much though, she probably cheats on that man frequently if not every so often (I know my ex would have with her husband.. if I had let her).

 

Anyway don't take it personally when you loose someone like that, they aren't really meant to be someone that you form a lasting bond with anyway, sure they may be damaged but then it's not your job to waste your time and money trying to fix them so that they can then run off with someone that they deem more worthy.

[Evaloves4]

58 minutes ago, Z0mBieP00Nani said:

... the first thing being "monkey branching" behavior or something that all females will engage in to one degree or another

 

> Not true. This is generalization based on assumption and male chauvinism. I could be dishonest and classified my ex bfs as jerks and idiots which most of them were but we will end in the "men are pigs and women are sluts" endlessly looping theory which makes no good to anyone. My husband has fanatically religious mother who made mostly bad things to him and his father. Does that mean that all Christians are fanatics and all mothers are bad? If you believe that than your mother and everyone else's mothers falls in your definition too. Even if they would be a great majority it is not right to generalize and label all people (gender in this case) according to them. I repeat again: When I met my husband, he was poor. It didn't bother me because I love him and I was the one who was buying the presents to him. I still love him because who he is and I DO NOT compare him with bad and rotten apples I previously dated.

Edited August 15, 2021 by EvalovesEP

[Evaloves4]

 > Nobody ask or force anyone to participate in discussion against his or her will. I don't like certain topics and I do not post my comment. I rather go away instead of trolling the author of the thread and the posters. Everyone has a choice. As one of LL rule says:

 

[mma75online]

never been in a serious  OR long relationships, most of my life I've trust problems that prevent any of this .... So breaking up is easy & simple  for both of us, we consider it as a fun time come to an end. 

[Z0mBieP00Nani]

17 hours ago, EvalovesEP said:

 

> Not true. This is generalization based on assumption and male chauvinism. I could be dishonest and classified my ex bfs as jerks and idiots which most of them were but we will end in the "men are pigs and women are sluts" endlessly looping theory which makes no good to anyone. My husband has fanatically religious mother who made mostly bad things to him and his father. Does that mean that all Christians are fanatics and all mothers are bad? If you believe that than your mother and everyone else's mothers falls in your definition too. Even if they would be a great majority it is not right to generalize and label all people (gender in this case) according to them. I repeat again: When I met my husband, he was poor. It didn't bother me because I love him and I was the one who was buying the presents to him. I still love him because who he is and I DO NOT compare him with bad and rotten apples I previously dated.

Most women I know would not seriously date or even give a chance to a man who lives in his parents basement, however I know of few if any guys who would have the same issue with a woman who was stuck in the exact same position, (to any women that may be reading this) you know that if you saw that mentioned in a man's dating profile you would probably not give that man a chance, but then that just proves my point that women value resources or a man's ability to accumulate resources as a part of who they choose to be with. As I said it is something that occurs in all women to varying degrees. Another common example of this is when you see a couple where the man gets sick or injured and can not work anymore, that will often spell the end of a marriage or relationship, and another scenario I've heard about is women who loose a bunch of weight and start getting all kinds of attention paid to them all of the sudden, that is another time relationships or marriages can end or at least cheating can become a thing.

 

I'm merely stating an observable reality, its not my fault if you find that offensive, it is what it is. If a large number women didn't act the way I described then I wouldn't say anything about it. I'm not trying to imply that men don't have faults either, it is however a lot harder to spot your own faults than it is someone else's, some of which are fairly identical.

[Evaloves4]

5 hours ago, Z0mBieP00Nani said:

Most women I know would not seriously date or even give a chance to a man who lives in his parents basement, however I know of few if any guys who would have the same issue with a woman who was stuck in the exact same position, (to any women that may be reading this) you know that if you saw that mentioned in a man's dating profile you would probably not give that man a chance, but then that just proves my point that women value resources or a man's ability to accumulate resources as a part of who they choose to be with. As I said it is something that occurs in all women to varying degrees. Another common example of this is when you see a couple where the man gets sick or injured and can not work anymore, that will often spell the end of a marriage or relationship, and another scenario I've heard about is women who loose a bunch of weight and start getting all kinds of attention paid to them all of the sudden, that is another time relationships or marriages can end or at least cheating can become a thing.

 

I'm merely stating an observable reality, its not my fault if you find that offensive, it is what it is. If a large number women didn't act the way I described then I wouldn't say anything about it. I'm not trying to imply that men don't have faults either, it is however a lot harder to spot your own faults than it is someone else's, some of which are fairly identical.

> I wasn't offended.  Your saying "all women" in quoted post bothered me. It makes difference between "all" and "most."