Naked Defeat AE/SE

[Fienyx]

Where can I get the required animation? From FNIS

 

Reading BeingADoggy_huan V?.? ...     ChAnims:77(75)     CTD:2.3%     pOpt:0.2%
        NOTE: BeingADoggy_huan has at least one AASet definition without any animation files provided

[Rosvinar]

4 hours ago, Fienyx said:

Where can I get the required animation? From FNIS

 

Reading BeingADoggy_huan V?.? ...     ChAnims:77(75)     CTD:2.3%     pOpt:0.2%
        NOTE: BeingADoggy_huan has at least one AASet definition without any animation files provided

I maybe able to “Help”. 
 

unfortunately I think that animation is solely for LE as it was causing some sort if bugs if I remember reading correctly. I don't use anything other than a couple if very specific add ons, so maybe things have changed if so i do apologise.

What SLAL packs do you have installed?

 

[Rosvinar]

9 hours ago, Nymra said:

 

I’m working on the exact feature you describe. Im just slow in progress atm. since I again work on some fundamental stuff which also means I need to learn new shit, sigh

Thanks for all the amazing work Nymra current version works wonderfully. If you were to give a guess whats your estimate on the your completion of the next update? 
 

[Fienyx]

Anim packs

 

ZAZ 8+

Anub H/C

Babo H/C

Billy SLAL

FunnyBiz/CB

Rydin

 

Would it break something if I simply removed that behavior hkx?

Edited July 6, 2022 by Fienyx

[Nymra]

7 hours ago, Lucci213 said:

Is the "spawn flat surface" Action broken for anyone else? It always places it at an angle.

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I noticed that myself just yesterday and its on top of the list for next patch. 

[Nymra]

5 hours ago, Fienyx said:

Where can I get the required animation? From FNIS

 

Reading BeingADoggy_huan V?.? ...     ChAnims:77(75)     CTD:2.3%     pOpt:0.2%
        NOTE: BeingADoggy_huan has at least one AASet definition without any animation files provided

 

if the crawl works for you you can ignore that warning. 

 

1 hour ago, Fienyx said:

Anim packs

 

ZAZ 8+

Anub H/C

Babo H/C

Billy SLAL

FunnyBiz/CB

Rydin

 

this is 100% unrelated to the above. 

 

1 hour ago, Fienyx said:

Would it break something if I simply removed that behavior hkx?

 

which one?

the Huan animations are there to make the crawling happen. if you remove the behaviour crawl will no longer work. 

 

Do you also have Huans "BeeingADoggy" Mod installed?

MIGHT be an overwrite problem in that case since the files have the same place as before (try to put naked defeat after or before and see) 

Edited July 6, 2022 by Nymra

[Fienyx]

1 hour ago, Nymra said:

 

if the crawl works for you you can ignore that warning.    ---  Ok, this answers my question completely.  I turned the crawling off, just figured it was the safer bet for VR

 

 

this is 100% unrelated to the above.   ---  Rosvinar  asked what SLAL packs I have installed, so I answered

 

 

Do you also have Huans "BeeingADoggy" Mod installed?  ---  Nope.

MIGHT be an overwrite problem in that case since the files have the same place as before (try to put naked defeat after or before and see) 

 

[Nessa]

Had a mini project for myself getting the CC Zombies (Plague of the Dead) to work with SL. Did a bunch of tests with ND and they all worked. Things are going well in AE! ?

[KingstonPrince7]

hi! I love the last update, is very stable, I was wondering; is this mod compatible with the Separate Orgasms mod?

[Rosvinar]

26 minutes ago, KingstonPrince7 said:

hi! I love the last update, is very stable, I was wondering; is this mod compatible with the Separate Orgasms mod?

 

Yes

[Rosvinar]

1 hour ago, Nessa said:

Had a mini project for myself getting the CC Zombies (Plague of the Dead) to work with SL. Did a bunch of tests with ND and they all worked. Things are going well in AE! ?

Good to know Nessa, your doing a really good job btw of selling the idea of updating to AE.

[Nymra]

6 hours ago, Rosvinar said:

Good to know Nessa, your doing a really good job btw of selling the idea of updating to AE.

come join us on LE. If you downgrade you wont have to upgrade anymore ^^

[Anunya]

2 hours ago, Nymra said:

come join us on LE. If you downgrade you wont have to upgrade anymore ^^

 

If/ when I get a new computer I'll probably give LE a whirl... since I'll have to reinstall from scratch anyhow.

[babydragon0123]

@Nymra Do I have to install Devious Devices - Equip Requirements if I use it for Nake Defeat?

Edited July 7, 2022 by babydragon0123

[Skwii007]

3 hours ago, Nymra said:

come join us on LE. If you downgrade you wont have to upgrade anymore ^^

 

And leave the community as fragmented as ever? No thanks, my SE is far more stable ?

[Rosvinar]

3 hours ago, Nymra said:

come join us on LE. If you downgrade you wont have to upgrade anymore ^^

true... but i cant live with TDM and its not out for LE. this is literally the only problem.

[Nessa]

6 hours ago, Rosvinar said:

true... but i cant live with TDM and its not out for LE. this is literally the only problem.

 

Yeah, TDM, better graphics mods, esl's not clogging load order (making patches simple and bashed patches unnecessary), new world mods (that LE can't handle period), combat mods (that can't have LE versions), more assets (that won't get LE versions ever), HDT-SMP clothes/hair on NPCs as well as the player and it's fast, a plethora of animation options, can handle insane load orders and still be stable......  ? and MCM Recorder. That alone is worth chucking LE into the nearest dustbin at warp speed. ??

 

Kind of funny really, I was one of the earliest "No, I'm not upgrading period." sorts. Still have my LE setup even. ?

 

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Regarding SL in AE: the windowed mode suggestion did have a slight increase in SLAL load times. The bigger improvement though was MCM Recorder as it forces you out of the MCM window. SLAL is like a really slow slug if you leave MCM on while it's doing it's thing. I timed it.  About 3 minutes for a full SLAL setup (meaning all the major anim mods) when running MCM Recorder. Just about 7 if you do it manually and wait in MCM. ? 

Also note, the MCM Recorder time isn't just for SLAL registration. That was for ALL SL feature mods being adjusted and activated. That includes ND, Appropos, Prison Alternative, FMEA (a rather long activation process usually), SLEN and Simple Slavery.

 

******

 

Back on topic: been starting to turn on more and more ND features for testing. Can report whipping is working out as well as the fade for the whip marks. (Not sure I mentioned that before but that feature had issues in my SE setup.)

 

Time to crawl away is still mismatched on seconds. Good news being it still works, it's just determining the right amount of crawl away time. I have it set to 2 seconds and I get a good 10 (on average it seems to vary) to get away. 

 

 

 

 

[Nymra]

10 hours ago, babydragon0123 said:

@Nymra Do I have to install Devious Devices - Equip Requirements if I use it for Nake Defeat?

 

not sure if I understand the question.

when you want NDs DD features to work you need DDe + all its requirements.

 

 

On a sidenote: 

I am working on my own DD management mod to replace DDe which will also come with gameplay features for DD (struggle free hotkey etc.)

I decided it is not worth the time to work around existing problems with other mods but instead just face them head on and do everything myself *shrug

[Rosvinar]

3 hours ago, Nymra said:

On a sidenote: 

I am working on my own DD management mod to replace DDe which will also come with gameplay features for DD (struggle free hotkey etc.)

I decided it is not worth the time to work around existing problems with other mods but instead just face them head on and do everything myself *shrug

Insert Thanos quote: "fine ill do it myself"

for that last statement (i really hope someone knows which one i mean otherwise im gonna look like a dumbass).

Keep up the good work nymra, looking forward to this next release.

[Guest]

Thanks first.  Fantastic experience AGAIN wtih ND.  So many features and once you learn how to integrate multiple script heavy mods with ND, works so well.  Just completed a lengthy playthrough and cannot say enough.

 

General SE users question:  If I enable the better whipping scenario tab, I have to go to free camera to view as mentioned in the MCM.   Whenever I do this, I lock camera in 3rd person (no zoom) 75% of the time after the scenerio is completed.  My solution is to not improve the whipping.  Camera still will rotate but whipping becomes inconsistent.  I show the damage after and timer is correct but whipping motion is inconsistent to non-existent.  Small price to pay to not have my camera lock in 3rd person all the time.  I believe this is an SE issue just asking if anyone else has a similar experience.  (Sorry - no papyrus log - can't get it to work regardless of how many times I follow the online instructions)  500 mods

 

Thanks again Nymra for a great mod.  Still my #1 mod.

[Nymra]

20 minutes ago, tjse4ever said:

General SE users question:  If I enable the better whipping scenario tab, I have to go to free camera to view as mentioned in the MCM.   Whenever I do this, I lock camera in 3rd person (no zoom) 75% of the time after the scenerio is completed.  My solution is to not improve the whipping.

 

when camera is locked in 3rd person this is usually because an animation is played while in combat stance. this is the only known cause for me on how this happens. 

it COULD be that this is caused by a combat mod in your Load Order that somehow messes with the stuff.

Did you try this:

disable "better whipping" and still go to free camera and see if the behaviour is the same? 
BEcause basically all that this does is spawining invisible collission objects that prevent the whipper from getting too close to the PC (it is not an ideal solution, I m still trying to improve this but... alas...) 

TLDR: this cannot be connected to "Better whipping" (would be highly unlikely) but probably to the free camera itself and probaby a combat mod interfering.

 

ALSO every mod that plays random idles, staggers or whatnot can be responsible. 

 

20 minutes ago, tjse4ever said:

amera still will rotate but whipping becomes inconsistent.  I show the damage after and timer is correct but whipping motion is inconsistent to non-existent.  Small price to pay to not have my camera lock in 3rd person all the time.

 

I am working on adding a hotkey solution for camera locking. Basically 3rd person camera lock can be fixed by drawing a weapon and sheathing it again (while of course this is not possible with controls locked while in defeat). 

 

20 minutes ago, tjse4ever said:

  I believe this is an SE issue just asking if anyone else has a similar experience.  (Sorry - no papyrus log - can't get it to work regardless of how many times I follow the online instructions)  500 mods

 

I think the number of issues that are SE or LE specific is basically near zero, usually its always some incompatibility with a random mod. 

 

20 minutes ago, tjse4ever said:

Thanks first.  Fantastic experience AGAIN wtih ND.  So many features and once you learn how to integrate multiple script heavy mods with ND, works so well.  Just completed a lengthy playthrough and cannot say enough.

Thanks again Nymra for a great mod.  Still my #1 mod.

 

glad to hear and thank you for your continued support, much appreciated! 
really like that ND survived the playthrough stable and playable. I am currently at almost 1 1/2 years of lifetime for my active testing profile and ND also still works
I seem to have reached a point where I can fix everything "on the run" without requiring a new game. 
 

[Anunya]

4 hours ago, tjse4ever said:

Thanks first.  Fantastic experience AGAIN wtih ND.  So many features and once you learn how to integrate multiple script heavy mods with ND, works so well.  Just completed a lengthy playthrough and cannot say enough.

 

Any pointers on "how to integrate multiple heavy script mods with ND"? I'll be honest, I'm still struggling with that....

[Skwii007]

9 hours ago, Nymra said:

 

really like that ND survived the playthrough stable and playable. I am currently at almost 1 1/2 years of lifetime for my active testing profile and ND also still works
I seem to have reached a point where I can fix everything "on the run" without requiring a new game. 
 

 

I've been playing with ND since almost first release, switching over from Naked Dungeons (which was one of my favorites too). One of the longest installed LL mods in my setup.

 

I play on SE and I have close to 900 mods installed, adding a ton of things (combat, quests, overhauls, animations, armors..). It's a script-heavy load order but I rarely ever crash.

 

Now if only there could be a patch to prevent ND from firing while BaboDialogue is playing, I'd be a super happy camper.

 

 

[babydragon0123]

14 hours ago, Nymra said:

 

On a sidenote: 

I am working on my own DD management mod to replace DDe which will also come with gameplay features for DD (struggle free hotkey etc.)

I decided it is not worth the time to work around existing problems with other mods but instead just face them head on and do everything myself *shrug

Nice, I will wait your DD

[Nymra]

2 hours ago, Skwii007 said:

Now if only there could be a patch to prevent ND from firing while BaboDialogue is playing, I'd be a super happy camper.

 

it seems that is impossible at the moment. babodialogue does not offer the means to achieve compatibility

meaning I dont see any way at the moment to check if its running or to stop ND from starting when BaboDia actors are involved.

Thing is, I check actors late and not early. Also I cannot just shut down Naked Defeat and then "guess" when babo dialogue is done with its stuff because there seems to be nothing that can tell me that.

A simple Mod Event "BaboDiaStart" and "BaboDiaEnd" would suffice for me to suspend Naked Defeat features during that time. But the faction check currently provided as solution is not working for me sadly. 

 

Plus: if Babo Dialogue REQUIRES SL Defeat to be installed AND with its NPC rapes Player feature required to be enabled I consider it incompatible.

Would be nice to work with @factoryclose to achieve compatibility BOTH ways, while I currently have no idea how to reliably prevent double starts from happening.

 

Naked Defeat sends out a ModEvent "nade-Suspend" when it starts and "nade-Resume" when it ends.

It also sends out the usual "DHLP suspend" which I thought LL mods use to prevent each other from fucking everything up. SL Defeat should respect that and also BaboDialogue (both could just send DHLP-suspend/resume AND listen to it and it would already work out).

 

I already send Babo a source file for a patch to make FillHerUp compatible with Naked Defeat but was ignored. 

 

I wont say Naked Defeat is already perfect in that regard but its no use spending alot of time trying to achieve compatibility from my side while the other mod is still doing what it wants  

 

Edited July 8, 2022 by Nymra