Diary Of Mine for Paradise Halls

[Empt1e]

4 minutes ago, サマエル said:

 

Of course you must be here William! haha

 

 

I guess you mean me, right? 5.1.1 is working perfectly fine in my PC. Are you using AE 1.6.640 or the latest AE 1.6.1130??? Because I'm on AE 1.6.640 and right now I'm not interested in the same Malibu Stacy with new hat, at least for a while. Bad things happen with updates. PaH DoM 5.1.1 is working fine in AE 1.6.640

 

 

No. I use SE 1.5.97.0.8
I think the problem is not with the version of Skyrim. The previous version of the mod worked fine.

Edited January 3, 2024 by Empty3301

[WhoEvenAmI]

Hey what's the secret to get AYGAS buyers to accept an offer? I moved over from LE recently, and had assumed the requirements were just different, but I can't get anyone to buy a slave.

[Mythryn]

Hi! Is any way to disable Let's have a serious chat dialog for all NPCs? I mean, I want it from time to time but it usually interferes than helpful in my case.
Mayby I could probably patch it myself if you could point out how I can do it?

[TrollAutokill]

31 minutes ago, Mythryn said:

Hi! Is any way to disable Let's have a serious chat dialog for all NPCs? I mean, I want it from time to time but it usually interferes than helpful in my case.
Mayby I could probably patch it myself if you could point out how I can do it?

There are only ways to remove it completely. Edit with SSEedit the DOM01 quest condition and remove the unique npc test is equal to true. Or add unique NPC test is false to the dialogue, so that it will always fail.

Edited January 3, 2024 by TrollAutokill

[WhoEvenAmI]

8 hours ago, WhoEvenAmI said:

Hey what's the secret to get AYGAS buyers to accept an offer? I moved over from LE recently, and had assumed the requirements were just different, but I can't get anyone to buy a slave.

Should I assume that this issue isn't down to DOM's changes to aygas?

[wower2345]

1 hour ago, TrollAutokill said:

There are only ways to remove it completely. Edit with SSEedit the DOM01 quest condition and remove the unique npc test is equal to true. Or add unique NPC test is false to the dialogue, so that it will always fail.

Will removing the quest condition also break the Personality wheel?

[WhoEvenAmI]

TO restate my problem, I'm so far unable to sell a slave to anyone. All I get is the "sorry, not interested dialogue." 

Frankly, I might have some chance of troubleshooting this myself if I understood what the conditions were for selling a slave better. Does anyone happen to know the exact stats at which an innkeeper will buy a slave, for example?

[Empt1e]

43 minutes ago, WhoEvenAmI said:

TO restate my problem, I'm so far unable to sell a slave to anyone. All I get is the "sorry, not interested dialogue." 

Frankly, I might have some chance of troubleshooting this myself if I understood what the conditions were for selling a slave better. Does anyone happen to know the exact stats at which an innkeeper will buy a slave, for example?

I also encountered this problem and the point is that you just need the right NPC. In my case, the mine workers and the soldiers in the fortresses agreed to the purchase.

[WhoEvenAmI]

24 minutes ago, Empty3301 said:

I also encountered this problem and the point is that you just need the right NPC. In my case, the mine workers and the soldiers in the fortresses agreed to the purchase.

Wait, so are you telling me that DOM deliberately removes the ability to sell AYGAS prostitutes to innkeepers? Is that intentional? Is it a change in AYGAS or DOM?

[Empt1e]

29 minutes ago, WhoEvenAmI said:

Wait, so are you telling me that DOM deliberately removes the ability to sell AYGAS prostitutes to innkeepers? Is that intentional? Is it a change in AYGAS or DOM?

I have no idea. Never sold slaves to tavern owners. Not all of them accepted them. I know for sure that Hulda didn’t take them in Whiterun

[TrollAutokill]

3 hours ago, wower2345 said:

Will removing the quest condition also break the Personality wheel?

No.

[TrollAutokill]

1 hour ago, WhoEvenAmI said:

TO restate my problem, I'm so far unable to sell a slave to anyone. All I get is the "sorry, not interested dialogue." 

Frankly, I might have some chance of troubleshooting this myself if I understood what the conditions were for selling a slave better. Does anyone happen to know the exact stats at which an innkeeper will buy a slave, for example?

This is set by aygas, but modified by DoM. If you get a screenshot of the slave stats, I could check.

[TrollAutokill]

39 minutes ago, WhoEvenAmI said:

Wait, so are you telling me that DOM deliberately removes the ability to sell AYGAS prostitutes to innkeepers? Is that intentional? Is it a change in AYGAS or DOM?

No.

[Good Provider]

I haven't looked into the code, but I suspect that AYGAS effects the probability of purchase based on the slavery rating in each region.  A tavern owner is less likely to purchase when slavery level is low.  If you don't want to play the "slavery establish" game loop, the MCM includes an option to skip. If that doesn't work for you, take your question to the AYGAS thread where the author is more likely to see it. 

[WhoEvenAmI]

44 minutes ago, TrollAutokill said:

This is set by aygas, but modified by DoM. If you get a screenshot of the slave stats, I could check.

I've tried it with other slaves, but these two seem like solid candidates with no obvious issues to me, and yet I can't even get a farmer to take either, which I recall being the easiest sale.

 

 

[WhoEvenAmI]

41 minutes ago, Good Provider said:

I haven't looked into the code, but I suspect that AYGAS effects the probability of purchase based on the slavery rating in each region.  A tavern owner is less likely to purchase when slavery level is low.  If you don't want to play the "slavery establish" game loop, the MCM includes an option to skip. If that doesn't work for you, take your question to the AYGAS thread where the author is more likely to see it. 

See, I keep seeing people say things like this, and I feel like I MUST be missing something. Back in the day, slavery being established in a town was only BARELY related to people buying slaves if at all. I mean, it'd go up as you did your thing sure, but the tavern owners would still buy at zero slavery in a region. Regardless, maxing out the slavery acceptance in debug doesn't fix it so I have trouble believing this is the issue.

 

Also the only people I can find discussing an issue that sounds similar have DOM installed. Also also, it seems like DOM definitely touches AYGAS sales. Also also also, I'm not even convinced that DOM or some AYGAS update hasn't added some new function that I'm just ignorant of that's causing this. It's tough to trouble shoot something if you literally can't tell if it's working as intended. XD

[TrollAutokill]

1 hour ago, WhoEvenAmI said:

See, I keep seeing people say things like this, and I feel like I MUST be missing something. Back in the day, slavery being established in a town was only BARELY related to people buying slaves if at all. I mean, it'd go up as you did your thing sure, but the tavern owners would still buy at zero slavery in a region. Regardless, maxing out the slavery acceptance in debug doesn't fix it so I have trouble believing this is the issue.

 

Also the only people I can find discussing an issue that sounds similar have DOM installed. Also also, it seems like DOM definitely touches AYGAS sales. Also also also, I'm not even convinced that DOM or some AYGAS update hasn't added some new function that I'm just ignorant of that's causing this. It's tough to trouble shoot something if you literally can't tell if it's working as intended. XD

Thanks. I'll check the aygas interface with your settings and hopefully it will be corrected in next version. That means in a week or so.

 

Meanwhile make sure your load order and plugin load order is the following: pah, then aygas, then HSH (or not if you don't want HSH) and last DoM.

 

With domaygas.esp patch coming from the DoM directory. This past point is very important otherwise your slave will have 0 value.

Edited January 3, 2024 by TrollAutokill

[WhoEvenAmI]

Thanks!

 

Are DOM versions generally safe to upgrade without losing a save?

 

Edit: I'm sure there's something about that in the main post. I'll give it another read. Thanks again.

Edited January 3, 2024 by WhoEvenAmI

[TrollAutokill]

22 minutes ago, WhoEvenAmI said:

Thanks!

 

Are DOM versions generally safe to upgrade without losing a save?

 

Edit: I'm sure there's something about that in the main post. I'll give it another read. Thanks again.

Versions are numbered x.y.z

- Updating z on an old save is safe.

- Updating y should be done with caution, reading the change log carefully.

- Updating x is usually not a good idea, and a new save is required, but 4 to 5 is ok if done carefully.

[oys051]

Hello.
Can someone check if my current load order is correct?
I searched for the order, but there are to many ESPs related to PAHE, so some confused.

Version 5.0.4
 

Edited January 3, 2024 by oys051

[randy1990]

it would be nice if you could let the slaves crawl on all 4 

[Gb4y]

i reinstalled this mod recently, when I use "entertain me > show your pussy" the slave only has 2 animations, but few months ago when I use this command there were several pose that interesting, am I lacking animation mod or what

[veebars]

9 hours ago, WhoEvenAmI said:

TO restate my problem, I'm so far unable to sell a slave to anyone. All I get is the "sorry, not interested dialogue."

 

IIRC, with AYGAS alone, selling is deterministic. Once a slave is above X stat, buyers will buy. Price fluctuations are moderately random, but easily traceable to slave stats.

DOM+AYGAS is fairly random. You can just keep restarting the dialogue with the same person. They won't buy 4 times in a row, then they'll offer a great price, then no again. There may be something impacting the RNG, like town status, or slave training, but if there is, it's impact is overwhelmed by the RNG.

 

Long story short, just keep restarting the dialogue until the RNG gods smile upon you.

[veebars]

On 12/24/2023 at 8:27 AM, TrollAutokill said:

I will add a flag to avoid more than one global update at a time.

Thanks, was this in the recent 5.1 or 5.1.1 update? I use the 4.9.x series but if I need to switch branches to pick up the fix, no problem of course.

[TrollAutokill]

5 hours ago, veebars said:

Thanks, was this in the recent 5.1 or 5.1.1 update? I use the 4.9.x series but if I need to switch branches to pick up the fix, no problem of course.

Not yet.