kenis19 Posted January 20, 2024 Posted January 20, 2024 11 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: You could make an add-on to aygas. I don't really have the skills. I can use CK but only basics.
TrollAutokill Posted January 20, 2024 Author Posted January 20, 2024 On 1/19/2024 at 9:02 AM, ruffyhaki1996 said: also 1 more short Question: I did not update DOM for maybe 1 Year, i updated everything and most is working, the "threesome" option is new for me, if i say "time for a treesome" and go to another "report to ur trainies", the coulored strings left of the screen comment on the slaves state about the threesome, but no animation is starting... Do i miss a extra Mod or something? All other Animations work besides 1 Anal Punishment Animation where the charackters just stand behind each other, could that be a Zaz/Sexlab problem? Usually this means no suitable animation was found. Try to add more SLAL packs.
TrollAutokill Posted January 20, 2024 Author Posted January 20, 2024 3 hours ago, pitipol said: Is a good time to make a LE convertion o we should wait ? 5 is still a development version. DoM 4 could be backported, but I would recommend to wait for the end of the month and hopefully a more stable DoM 5. 1
wower2345 Posted January 21, 2024 Posted January 21, 2024 I recently learned that this mod can use GSPoses if it is installed. I do like the additional idles that bring more life to the slaves, but I kind of feel like some of them can be a bit out of place. I don't really use pose mods for screen archery purposes and I only installed it to use with DOM so is it fine if I just straight up delete the poses that I don't like? Will that break DOM in any way or is it fine? If it's not fine, then would there be a way to change the list of poses used by the mod directly? One other thing that I would like to edit are facial expressions. Some of them are great but other ones can be a bit too, hm 'theatrical' so to speak. Does DOM just use vanilla expressions or does it have its own? I mean, will installing a mod that changes the vanilla expressions change the DOM ones too? I kind of don't want to edit the expressions directly like with the GSPoses since that is something I mean to use normally, so would there be a way of simply editing the expression used for let's say 'Depressed' or 'InLove'?
DseargF Posted January 21, 2024 Posted January 21, 2024 (edited) Hello. I like this mod, but there is one thing that I don't like very much - the following distance of the slaves. I tried changing the intended packages values in SSEEdit, but I couldn't find the right variable. Can you tell me which package it is in? Thanks! Edited January 21, 2024 by DseargF
APE1333 Posted January 21, 2024 Posted January 21, 2024 hello there! I feel that this mod has developed a very creative and interesting concept since its inception. This mod completely changed my playstyle in Skyrim. For a long time, I just watched the mod develop without giving any feedback. I feel sorry for that. Furthermore, please forgive me for wishing that this kind of functionality existed. I feel it would be good if there was a reaction of fear or anger when announcing various forms of punishment for slaves. Please allow me to use other mods as examples. In the original Paradise falls mod, when she announces to the slave that she is about to punish him with sexual abuse, she gets a gasping and fearful reaction from the slave. You can feel the immersive pleasure because you can see that the slave is aware of the seriousness of what is about to happen. I think it is a very big event for a new slave to be sexually humiliated and sexually assaulted by her master. Is it difficult to implement these functions in this DOM? In fact, I'm always amazed and entertained by the variety of DOM dialogs. In the next DOM update, please consider adding the ability for slaves to be frightened, angry, or grieved at the punishment they are about to receive. I think it's also great to be reluctant or dismissive about sexual acts, like when you're undergoing a physical exam. I am sorry for pompously expressing my hopes to someone who has already achieved such great accomplishments, and I apologize for sending such an unpleasant and humbling message in a language that is not my native language. I hope that the mod will develop in the future and that it will be evaluated in a way that is commensurate with its content. Thank you for reading. 2
TrollAutokill Posted January 21, 2024 Author Posted January 21, 2024 (edited) 6 hours ago, wower2345 said: I recently learned that this mod can use GSPoses if it is installed. I do like the additional idles that bring more life to the slaves, but I kind of feel like some of them can be a bit out of place. I don't really use pose mods for screen archery purposes and I only installed it to use with DOM so is it fine if I just straight up delete the poses that I don't like? Will that break DOM in any way or is it fine? If it's not fine, then would there be a way to change the list of poses used by the mod directly? One other thing that I would like to edit are facial expressions. Some of them are great but other ones can be a bit too, hm 'theatrical' so to speak. Does DOM just use vanilla expressions or does it have its own? I mean, will installing a mod that changes the vanilla expressions change the DOM ones too? I kind of don't want to edit the expressions directly like with the GSPoses since that is something I mean to use normally, so would there be a way of simply editing the expression used for let's say 'Depressed' or 'InLove'? 1) GSPoses are numerous and I don't remember who did it but someone volunteered to sort them with keywords and I used the keywords to assign them to different poses. Now if you want to come with some refinement, you're welcome. 2) Expressions are the default Skyrim ones. Maybe you could find and suggest a mod to improve them. Edited January 21, 2024 by TrollAutokill
TrollAutokill Posted January 21, 2024 Author Posted January 21, 2024 4 hours ago, DseargF said: Hello. I like this mod, but there is one thing that I don't like very much - the following distance of the slaves. I tried changing the intended packages values in SSEEdit, but I couldn't find the right variable. Can you tell me which package it is in? Thanks! There is a package template, it's named DOM0Package... You just need to edit this template, not the 128+32 individual packages.
TrollAutokill Posted January 21, 2024 Author Posted January 21, 2024 3 hours ago, APE1333 said: hello there! I feel that this mod has developed a very creative and interesting concept since its inception. This mod completely changed my playstyle in Skyrim. For a long time, I just watched the mod develop without giving any feedback. I feel sorry for that. Furthermore, please forgive me for wishing that this kind of functionality existed. I feel it would be good if there was a reaction of fear or anger when announcing various forms of punishment for slaves. Please allow me to use other mods as examples. In the original Paradise falls mod, when she announces to the slave that she is about to punish him with sexual abuse, she gets a gasping and fearful reaction from the slave. You can feel the immersive pleasure because you can see that the slave is aware of the seriousness of what is about to happen. I think it is a very big event for a new slave to be sexually humiliated and sexually assaulted by her master. Is it difficult to implement these functions in this DOM? In fact, I'm always amazed and entertained by the variety of DOM dialogs. In the next DOM update, please consider adding the ability for slaves to be frightened, angry, or grieved at the punishment they are about to receive. I think it's also great to be reluctant or dismissive about sexual acts, like when you're undergoing a physical exam. I am sorry for pompously expressing my hopes to someone who has already achieved such great accomplishments, and I apologize for sending such an unpleasant and humbling message in a language that is not my native language. I hope that the mod will develop in the future and that it will be evaluated in a way that is commensurate with its content. Thank you for reading. The reaction in PAH comes from the dialogue expression. I will see to add those to the DoM events so that it will show even when using the wheel. 1
Jasmine92 Posted January 21, 2024 Posted January 21, 2024 I have a question and maybe a bug (I'm on 5.1.2): Question: I can save the slave stats into a json, but loading them does not seem to work. I tried changing some values or kinks, but after loading them nothing changed. Saving them again overwrites the kinks with the old values. (Haven't tested it with the character values.) The bug: I don't know if it is the creation club contend for horse armor or simple horses, but I can enslave horses with the DoM hotkey. Maybe it's because the horse seems to be an NPC, maybe checking for horse faction will help. Here is a screenshot with some info: Spoiler
TrollAutokill Posted January 22, 2024 Author Posted January 22, 2024 7 hours ago, Jasmine92 said: I have a question and maybe a bug (I'm on 5.1.2): Question: I can save the slave stats into a json, but loading them does not seem to work. I tried changing some values or kinks, but after loading them nothing changed. Saving them again overwrites the kinks with the old values. (Haven't tested it with the character values.) The bug: I don't know if it is the creation club contend for horse armor or simple horses, but I can enslave horses with the DoM hotkey. Maybe it's because the horse seems to be an NPC, maybe checking for horse faction will help. Here is a screenshot with some info: Hide contents 1) You can not change kinks on an existing slave, only traits. You need a save from before the slave was captured or talked to. 2) Creatures can be captured with the hotkey. It's a feature, so you can make trolls cry.
Jasmine92 Posted January 22, 2024 Posted January 22, 2024 (edited) 13 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: 1) You can not change kinks on an existing slave, only traits. You need a save from before the slave was captured or talked to. - Can it be done by changing the kink-factions rank? Or will that make the world burn? (Want to try them all out) - How does DoM decide, that wearing an item "feeds" into a kink? "wearing a plug" for example, how is the plugs identified? Keywords I presume? (I have a slave with a "wearing a plug" kink and I have made her wear a pony tail plug (the one from DD 5.1) for days on end, but it doesn't seem to trigger anything. The wearing a collar kink on the other hand seems to be triggered by just showing them one. Edit: Oh, and how do I feed the "fisting someone" / "beeing fisted" fetish? Since there are only vaginal / anal / mouth entry's for sexlab scenes in the wheel menue? (Sorry if that is already been answered when kinks where still new, but I missed a year, so it's still the hot new shit for me :D) 13 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: 2) Creatures can be captured with the hotkey. It's a feature, so you can make trolls cry. good to know, funny thing is, capturing the horse triggers the choking animation, so I am crawling under the horse choking air and capturing it in the process. One caveat is, that the action key triggers mounting the horse and talking to it, which then only shows the "let's have a serious chat" entry, after mounting it. Edited January 22, 2024 by Jasmine92
fallen1 Posted January 22, 2024 Posted January 22, 2024 So how far can trainers (if at all) train slaves into the love/loyal stats? Didn't see an answer anywhere. I feel like this has an opportunity to become a cult simulator.
TrollAutokill Posted January 22, 2024 Author Posted January 22, 2024 55 minutes ago, fallen1 said: So how far can trainers (if at all) train slaves into the love/loyal stats? Didn't see an answer anywhere. I feel like this has an opportunity to become a cult simulator. In love/loyal is toward the player only. Trainers should in theory complete the training once the slave is broken. But for the moment the abuse is not separated between player/trainers. It should. Maybe in the future. Could you elaborate on this cult simulator idea?
TrollAutokill Posted January 22, 2024 Author Posted January 22, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jasmine92 said: - Can it be done by changing the kink-factions rank? Or will that make the world burn? (Want to try them all out) - How does DoM decide, that wearing an item "feeds" into a kink? "wearing a plug" for example, how is the plugs identified? Keywords I presume? (I have a slave with a "wearing a plug" kink and I have made her wear a pony tail plug (the one from DD 5.1) for days on end, but it doesn't seem to trigger anything. The wearing a collar kink on the other hand seems to be triggered by just showing them one. Edit: Oh, and how do I feed the "fisting someone" / "beeing fisted" fetish? Since there are only vaginal / anal / mouth entry's for sexlab scenes in the wheel menue? (Sorry if that is already been answered when kinks where still new, but I missed a year, so it's still the hot new shit for me :D) good to know, funny thing is, capturing the horse triggers the choking animation, so I am crawling under the horse choking air and capturing it in the process. One caveat is, that the action key triggers mounting the horse and talking to it, which then only shows the "let's have a serious chat" entry, after mounting it. 1) You can change the faction rank by hand yes, but only on a released slave (free NPC or HSH/pahe/aygas) as DoM slaves overwrite their faction ranks with their data. Kink numbers/strings are defined in DoM_util.psc. Make sure to change both factions (hidden and known kinks if they are defined or you can delete the known kink faction for a restart). 2) Kink triggers use keywords to identify sex toys and devices. Default keywords are Zaz keywords. It's possible I missed most from DD as I had problems with DD. 3) Enslaving creatures is at your own risk 👹 Edited January 22, 2024 by TrollAutokill 1
veebars Posted January 22, 2024 Posted January 22, 2024 Sorry, dumb question. I'm looking for an analogue to PAHE's "Make sure you stay here" -> "Only the hardest iron...". I see there's a "Stay here" -> "Tie Up" -> "Kneeling". That ties them up with ropes. Is there anything that'll use the iron cuffs from the PC inventory or just have roughly the same result? Something immersive for outdoors and quick (but unbreakable) immobilisation?
petsey Posted January 22, 2024 Posted January 22, 2024 Will json files work for NPCs outside of skyrim.esm? I've been having issues getting settings to load and noticed all the json files default to 00 at the start of the baseID.
fallen1 Posted January 23, 2024 Posted January 23, 2024 3 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: In love/loyal is toward the player only. Trainers should in theory complete the training once the slave is broken. But for the moment the abuse is not separated between player/trainers. It should. Maybe in the future. Could you elaborate on this cult simulator idea? A lot of what your character Is doing is in the same vain as cults, breaking down and forming people via isolation, abuse, control. Basically the difference between a cult and what DOM does is in a cult the Stockholm Syndrome is caused by a system of repeated abuse by former abused on new ones. So with the exception of a few key items, having loyal slaves abuse new slaves into being loyal would be most of the framework for having a cult leader gameplay. Like some cult of the DragonBorn especially if he's a reachman type shit. 1
TrollAutokill Posted January 23, 2024 Author Posted January 23, 2024 8 hours ago, petsey said: Will json files work for NPCs outside of skyrim.esm? I've been having issues getting settings to load and noticed all the json files default to 00 at the start of the baseID. Yes baseID should not include load order (which is different from one setup to another) hence the 00. The JSON filename can also include the actor name to differentiate between same baseID or just to not overwrite the default JSON file. This is what you get when you write the file from the MCM actors list. 1
5BeerHockey Posted January 23, 2024 Posted January 23, 2024 I noticed after some time the right breast becomes deformed causing the nipple to shrink. I'm not sure what's causing it or how to correct it. I noticed I can reproduce it by using the move bones hotkey (this may be the only cause, I thought i disabled the hotkey but it appears to still be set). Is there any way to undo the deformation on the npc?
TrollAutokill Posted January 23, 2024 Author Posted January 23, 2024 2 hours ago, 5BeerHockey said: I noticed after some time the right breast becomes deformed causing the nipple to shrink. I'm not sure what's causing it or how to correct it. I noticed I can reproduce it by using the move bones hotkey (this may be the only cause, I thought i disabled the hotkey but it appears to still be set). Is there any way to undo the deformation on the npc? Try SHIFT bone-hotkey or change the NPC body with Obody and never use this key ever again. I should disable it.
深淵の神 Posted January 23, 2024 Posted January 23, 2024 2 hours ago, 5BeerHockey said: I noticed after some time the right breast becomes deformed causing the nipple to shrink. I'm not sure what's causing it or how to correct it. I noticed I can reproduce it by using the move bones hotkey (this may be the only cause, I thought i disabled the hotkey but it appears to still be set). Is there any way to undo the deformation on the npc? Well, now that you mention it, something similar has happened to me, but I wouldn't say it's as extreme as the nipple shrink. After some time you can see some kind of disparity with the slave's chest physiques. Sometimes the strange invisibility bug even happens, although the solution is quite simple with the use of the MCM, although I still find it curious that the box in the MCM mentions something about "broken or invisible slaves." The truth is that this happens very very rarely, almost never in fact. What could be the cause of this? At first I thought it was my physics installation but this does not happen with other NPCs or followers, of course all females and only DoM actors, if I move them to HSH this never happens again
Jasmine92 Posted January 23, 2024 Posted January 23, 2024 2 hours ago, サマエル said: Well, now that you mention it, something similar has happened to me, but I wouldn't say it's as extreme as the nipple shrink. After some time you can see some kind of disparity with the slave's chest physiques. Sometimes the strange invisibility bug even happens, although the solution is quite simple with the use of the MCM, although I still find it curious that the box in the MCM mentions something about "broken or invisible slaves." The truth is that this happens very very rarely, almost never in fact. What could be the cause of this? At first I thought it was my physics installation but this does not happen with other NPCs or followers, of course all females and only DoM actors, if I move them to HSH this never happens again Do you have SMP installed? Does it change when switching between CBP(C) and SMP? I first witnessed the disappearing acts of NPCs, when CBP physics became a thing in LE. Engine fixes and the update to SE made it almost non existent, but still happening on occasion. Back then the consensus on why was afaik, that the engine gets to stressed out and start to disable the rendering of actors. (Hence you can still interact with them fine, you just can't see them any more, in contrast to the the NPCs that turn non interactive.) Since coming back to DoM 5, it seems to happen more again. I didn't even know there was an option to mess with the bones of an actor, wonder how that came to be, but it sounds like that is asking for trouble. The debug function for invisible actors however works almost always. 1
TrollAutokill Posted January 23, 2024 Author Posted January 23, 2024 5 hours ago, サマエル said: Well, now that you mention it, something similar has happened to me, but I wouldn't say it's as extreme as the nipple shrink. After some time you can see some kind of disparity with the slave's chest physiques. Sometimes the strange invisibility bug even happens, although the solution is quite simple with the use of the MCM, although I still find it curious that the box in the MCM mentions something about "broken or invisible slaves." The truth is that this happens very very rarely, almost never in fact. What could be the cause of this? At first I thought it was my physics installation but this does not happen with other NPCs or followers, of course all females and only DoM actors, if I move them to HSH this never happens again 3 hours ago, Jasmine92 said: Do you have SMP installed? Does it change when switching between CBP(C) and SMP? I first witnessed the disappearing acts of NPCs, when CBP physics became a thing in LE. Engine fixes and the update to SE made it almost non existent, but still happening on occasion. Back then the consensus on why was afaik, that the engine gets to stressed out and start to disable the rendering of actors. (Hence you can still interact with them fine, you just can't see them any more, in contrast to the the NPCs that turn non interactive.) Since coming back to DoM 5, it seems to happen more again. I didn't even know there was an option to mess with the bones of an actor, wonder how that came to be, but it sounds like that is asking for trouble. The debug function for invisible actors however works almost always. DoM 5 makes more use of slavetats, hence more overlays. HSH slaves use no overlays except the ones from the whip. Disappearing actors is definitely linked to SMP and number of overlays. Unfortunately, we are reaching the limits of the engine. But recent SMP updates seem to have lessened the problem, so there is still room for improvement. 2
Jasmine92 Posted January 23, 2024 Posted January 23, 2024 On a completely different note: While browsing the Nexus, I stumbled upon this new SKSE Plugin: Paired Animation Improvements It might be the solution for all paired animations problems, misalignment and out of sync problems, by enabling animation to make use of the same system, that the build in paired animation use (like kill moves etc). It works in tandem with Open Animation Replacer (which replaces DAR). Unfortunately I am not very knowledgeable when it comes to animations and hkx files, there is a pdf under downloads with descriptions what needs to be done. Maybe someone who knows hkx and behavior graphs can have a look and tell if it's worthwhile trying to make it work.
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