Diary Of Mine for Paradise Halls [WIP]

[CliftonJD]

23 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

The option would be available only if you have both pahe and dom activated. The common factions (submission, fear training, ...) would be defined in both plugins, but that's usual and Skyrim can cope with that.

 

This is how aygas and hsh are working. Actually HSH and aygas could run without pahe if it was not for the in and out of pahe pool.

 

PAHE was such an inspiration, I can't see how I can do without at least an interface.

doesn't really seem fair to pahe to take pahe content for independent competitor mod

[sidfu1]

tbh i feel like we have it right now where DOM is dependent on PAHE is best. there no need to try to reivent the wheel. this is why alot of good mods before died as they tried to reinvent parts of other mods and the maker got burned out or such.

right now i would try to just make it so that PAHE updates dont throw DOM for a spin.

[Kharos]

Personally I feel that DOM as an extension of PAHE is in the right place. The dependency is causing problems, but breaking it might lead to problems too, e.g. effort spent re-implementing existing functionality, possible incompatibilities, maybe fracturing of the community.

Using software architecture lingo: In my opinion the main issue at the moment is that the coupling between PAHE and DOM is too tight. DOM scripts are basically an extended version of PAHE scripts and the DOM installer is overwriting PAHE scripts. Because of that, each version of DOM requires a "matching" version of PAHE; using the "wrong" version can cause bugs. Script changes in PAHE require a merge of these changes into the DOM version of the script; that kind of setup looks brittle to me.

 

Not sure how to solve this. My gut feeling is that it would be better if DOM could extend PAHE without overwriting files / copying functionality, instead using inheritance and/or events to extend scripts. Not sure how feasible this is with Papyrus though. It might be worth to take some time investigating this @TrollAutokill and thinking about ways to refactor the mod while keeping it as an extension of PAHE?

[Khe]

confirming that there's issues with poses, though my girl knelt finally after I ordered her to follow.

 

thinking the menus could use some revision to make them less confusing, for hotkeys/wheels

I'm thinking something like this: Wheel Menu 1&3 (Key or Key+Modifier)

Similarly, on the hotkeys page (for left side at least): Hotkeys (or Right Column with Key+Modifier)

 

late edit: "Humiliating a fearful <X> by having <double space and empty> wear humiliating device" by the looks of it, this line seems to be missing a him/her. additionally, there should be 'a' after 'wear'

even later edit: DOM02DialogueFeeling02Respect: the female-owner one uses 'Master' instead of 'Mistress'

"<X> is being restrained,  release him first" playing for females

Edited October 3, 2022 by Khe
adding a thing

[TrollAutokill]

15 hours ago, Kharos said:

Personally I feel that DOM as an extension of PAHE is in the right place. The dependency is causing problems, but breaking it might lead to problems too, e.g. effort spent re-implementing existing functionality, possible incompatibilities, maybe fracturing of the community.

Using software architecture lingo: In my opinion the main issue at the moment is that the coupling between PAHE and DOM is too tight. DOM scripts are basically an extended version of PAHE scripts and the DOM installer is overwriting PAHE scripts. Because of that, each version of DOM requires a "matching" version of PAHE; using the "wrong" version can cause bugs. Script changes in PAHE require a merge of these changes into the DOM version of the script; that kind of setup looks brittle to me.

 

Not sure how to solve this. My gut feeling is that it would be better if DOM could extend PAHE without overwriting files / copying functionality, instead using inheritance and/or events to extend scripts. Not sure how feasible this is with Papyrus though. It might be worth to take some time investigating this @TrollAutokill and thinking about ways to refactor the mod while keeping it as an extension of PAHE?

Virtualization is the key here. I am not sure papyrus is up for it though.

 

If virtualization doesn't deliver, an addon like HSH is the way to go to keep the codes separated. The code will be separated to avoid @CliftonJD being flooded with DoM bugs.

 

So DoM will still be an addon with PAHE as single parent.

 

 

Edited October 3, 2022 by TrollAutokill

[TrollAutokill]

10 hours ago, Khe said:

confirming that there's issues with poses, though my girl knelt finally after I ordered her to follow.

Will check

10 hours ago, Khe said:

thinking the menus could use some revision to make them less confusing, for hotkeys/wheels

I'm thinking something like this: Wheel Menu 1&3 (Key or Key+Modifier)

Similarly, on the hotkeys page (for left side at least): Hotkeys (or Right Column with Key+Modifier)

Should be the case in 3.2.1 but the page was badly setup.

 

10 hours ago, Khe said:

 

 

late edit: "Humiliating a fearful <X> by having <double space and empty> wear humiliating device" by the looks of it, this line seems to be missing a him/her. additionally, there should be 'a' after 'wear'

Thanks, corrected as well as a few others...

 

10 hours ago, Khe said:

even later edit: DOM02DialogueFeeling02Respect: the female-owner one uses 'Master' instead of 'Mistress'

Corrected.

 

10 hours ago, Khe said:

 

"<X> is being restrained,  release him first" playing for females

Thanks, corrected.

Edited October 3, 2022 by TrollAutokill

[TrollAutokill]

Version 3.2.2 is out. It's a bug fix for 8.2.1.

 

 - Updated to PAHE 8.1.5 SE - LE users should probably stay clear from that version as PAHE LE is one update late.

 - Reorganized wheel menu. Wheel menu configuration in MCM has a separate tab.

 - The 5 wheels are:

• Order = Inventory, follow, wait, fight, pose, maid, order.
• Info = Stats, respect, silence, tie, bag.
• Abuse = Punish, threaten, praise, promise, comfort.
• Train = Clothes, sex, check, kiss, masturbate.
• Group order = Kneel, attention, WIP!

 

Bugs & notes:

- Group order menu is not fully functional yet, except for kneel and attention.

- GSPoses are sometimes not working. Should work again now.

- Slaves don't always stay in furniture, especially when using Zaz Helper Addon.

 

Edited October 3, 2022 by TrollAutokill

[CliftonJD]

3 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

Version 3.2.2 is out. It's a bug fix for 8.2.1.

 

 - Updated to PAHE 8.1.5 SE - LE users should probably stay clear from that version as PAHE LE is one update late.

basically i went to update/sync Le with Se and found some bugs to address so they will get the next update and soon after i should be able to sync Se with Le:

• 1 of the properties assigned in pahcore basically vanished from the esp in Le
• multiple conditions were applied to the combat behavior that should not be there

[Gräfin Zeppelin]

4 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

Version 3.2.2 is out. It's a bug fix for 8.2.1.

 

 - Updated to PAHE 8.1.5 SE - LE users should probably stay clear from that version as PAHE LE is one update late.

 - Reorganized wheel menu. Wheel menu configuration in MCM has a separate tab.

 - The 5 wheels are:

• Order = Inventory, follow, wait, fight, pose, maid, order.
• Info = Stats, respect, silence, tie, bag.
• Abuse = Punish, threaten, praise, promise, comfort.
• Train = Clothes, sex, check, kiss, masturbate.
• Group order = Kneel, attention, WIP!

 

Bugs & notes:

- Group order menu is not fully functional yet, except for kneel and attention.

- GSPoses are sometimes not working. Should work again now.

- Slaves don't always stay in furniture, especially when using Zaz Helper Addon.

 

 

1 hour ago, CliftonJD said:

basically i went to update/sync Le with Se and found some bugs to address so they will get the next update and soon after i should be able to sync Se with Le:

• 1 of the properties assigned in pahcore basically vanished from the esp in Le
• multiple conditions were applied to the combat behavior that should not be there

Just wanted to tell you guys how much I appreciate the work of you two are doing with Skyrim modding.

[TrollAutokill]

39 minutes ago, Gräfin Zeppelin said:

 

Just wanted to tell you guys how much I appreciate the work of you two are doing with Skyrim modding.

And we appreciate your support, from all of you ☺️

[Good Provider]

bug:

• With some regularity the status update (<name> refuses <action>..etc) appear below the black letter box bar that is overlayed when talking to characters.  This makes the message unreadable.  Not sure if you have the ability to limit the min/max y values where messages appear, but limiting it to the space between those bars would be a big help.  thanks. 

 

feature suggestions: 

• hope noticed you added "kiss" in the notes for the latest build. Was hoping for more options to be 'kind/loving': giving gift (food, clothing, healing potions), kiss, hug, reassure, healing during combat etc to build up a slaves love/hope would be great. (hope is her hope that you will be kind/maybe release) vs (resignation is her belief that her actions will allow her to escape/rebel) 
• trained slaves help in training on bound slaves. When I am training more then one at a time, I would love to see a trained slave warm up the one waiting her turn in the background. This would be more proactive then HSH, since I would be telling them what to do, and bouncing between which slaves I was actively training. 
  • order them to punish rebellious slaves. 
  • order them to "warm up, but not allow sexual release" (select oral, anal, vaginal) 
  • order them to help (threesome animation) with sex/rape 

Thanks again. 

[TrollAutokill]

3 hours ago, Good Provider said:

bug:

• With some regularity the status update (<name> refuses <action>..etc) appear below the black letter box bar that is overlayed when talking to characters.  This makes the message unreadable.  Not sure if you have the ability to limit the min/max y values where messages appear, but limiting it to the space between those bars would be a big help.  thanks. 

A screenshot would help to understand the problem.

 

3 hours ago, Good Provider said:

 

feature suggestions: 

• hope noticed you added "kiss" in the notes for the latest build. Was hoping for more options to be 'kind/loving': giving gift (food, clothing, healing potions), kiss, hug, reassure, healing during combat etc to build up a slaves love/hope would be great. (hope is her hope that you will be kind/maybe release) vs (resignation is her belief that her actions will allow her to escape/rebel) 

Current development is focusing on bug fixes. Next one will focus on code design. So unfortunately not immediately. But it's on the todo list.

 

Actually what you are describing is resignation/hope shift. Hope is just the opposite of resignation here, but it should shift focus from the outside world to the abductor and revert once the transfer process starts. In other words it should shift, from low resignation and high hopes of escaping, to high resignation and high hopes to get mercy from the abductor. Something that DoM describes linearly and maybe badly with the resignation training. I will think about a better way.

 

3 hours ago, Good Provider said:

• trained slaves help in training on bound slaves. When I am training more then one at a time, I would love to see a trained slave warm up the one waiting her turn in the background. This would be more proactive then HSH, since I would be telling them what to do, and bouncing between which slaves I was actively training. 
  • order them to punish rebellious slaves. 
  • order them to "warm up, but not allow sexual release" (select oral, anal, vaginal) 
  • order them to help (threesome animation) with sex/rape 

Thanks again. 

Some of the code for that is ready, but is limited by the current design. In short: same answer as above.

 

Edited October 4, 2022 by TrollAutokill

[Khe]

22 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

Should be the case in 3.2.1 but the page was badly setup.

 

yeah, the 3.2.1 page was better, but still lacked clarity, I'll have to look at .2

[terrorofmorrowind]

I know this is kind of specific. But I would really love it if this mod had a way to pet your slaves if they did good. I got this idea from slavebar. An anime like game.

[TrollAutokill]

3 hours ago, terrorofmorrowind said:

I know this is kind of specific. But I would really love it if this mod had a way to pet your slaves if they did good. I got this idea from slavebar. An anime like game.

Find the animation and I will put it in.

Edited October 4, 2022 by TrollAutokill

[TrollAutokill]

Version 3.2.3 is out! This is for  PAHE 8.1.5 SE - LE users should probably stay clear from that version as PAHE LE is one update late.

 

 - Many bug corrections on posing and tying up.

 - Option to kiss slave. Only one animation right now but you can propose more.

 - Re-re-re-organized wheel menu.

 - Group wheels are not tested yet.

 - The 6 wheels are:

• Order = Inventory, follow, wait, fight, pose, maid, order.
• Info = Personality, stats, respect, silence, tie up, bag.
• Abuse = Punish, threaten, choke, example, praise, promise, flatter, comfort.
• Train = Clothes, rape, sex, orgasm, display, kiss, inspect, masturbate.
• Group order = Respect, follow, wait, fight, pose, kneel, attention.
• Group abuse = Clothes, display, masturbate, silence, threaten, promise, tie up, bag.

 

Bugs & notes:

- GSPoses are sometimes not working. Should work again now.

- Slaves don't always stay in furniture, especially when using Zaz Helper Addon.

 

Edited October 4, 2022 by TrollAutokill

[CliftonJD]

20 hours ago, Gräfin Zeppelin said:

 

Just wanted to tell you guys how much I appreciate the work of you two are doing with Skyrim modding.

good to hear it

 

[XarisZ]

Is this mod worth using or the constant updates nuke your saves?

[TrollAutokill]

3 hours ago, XarisZ said:

Is this mod worth using or the constant updates nuke your saves?

Keep to the stable version and avoid the development version if you want stability. The stable version is listed in the mod introduction under "What to download?" it's 2.12.2 as of today.

 

Otherwise, same answer as in the mod description, Skyrim storing scripts in the save game can create some oddities. Nothing to worry about for small updates (big updates happen when the first digit of the version changes).

 

Anyhow, if you are experiencing weird behaviour you can always move your slaves back and forth from HSH or reboot PAHE.

Edited October 4, 2022 by TrollAutokill

[Good Provider]

bug:

• run away slaves, or slaves who you never got back to finish the capture,  never escape PAH's slave list. This is a bug or a feature (set a "escape window" in MCM?), depending if you use the "teleport slave" feature to regain lost slaves. 

feature:

• would be nice if the slave list had a keyword describing the state of the slave after their name (near, defeated), (near, obedient), (far, escaping), (far, love), (near, shock) etc .  Really help to go through the list
• calls for help heard by free NPC activate crime code, unless the slave is gagged.

[TrollAutokill]

1 hour ago, Good Provider said:

bug:

• run away slaves, or slaves who you never got back to finish the capture,  never escape PAH's slave list. This is a bug or a feature (set a "escape window" in MCM?), depending if you use the "teleport slave" feature to regain lost slaves. 

Not sure what your describing here. The slave capture can go wrong, especially if you're experiencing script lag or if you're leaving the area in the middle of the process. I lost slaves to the limbo brcaus of that and that happened with PAHE alone too.

 

What do you mean with "Never escape PAH's list"?

 

1 hour ago, Good Provider said:

feature:

• would be nice if the slave list had a keyword describing the state of the slave after their name (near, defeated), (near, obedient), (far, escaping), (far, love), (near, shock) etc .  Really help to go through the list

We could add a character next to the slave name, maybe something along the lines,

 

? Running away

! could run away

- angry

. afraid or scared

: terrified

o could get shocked soon

# shocked 

= could he broken soon

" broken

> could he loyal soon

^ loyal

+ could fall in love soon

* in love

 

Suggestions welcome.

 

1 hour ago, Good Provider said:

• calls for help heard by free NPC activate crime code, unless the slave is gagged.

 

That's a feature, buy you can deactivate the alarm in the MCM menu, debug section.

 

What I need to do is keep the call for help but deactivate the alarm part instead of just shutting everything off. Just for the sake of hearing our favourite helpless virtual victims scream, while bystanders just go on with their life.

Edited October 4, 2022 by TrollAutokill

[f95nobody]

Thanks for making this mod and the incredible update frequency. Kudos!

 

Sadly, I may have a bit of a problem. I cannot talk to slaves via the usual interaction (approaching and pressing 'E'). They'll respond like a regular NPC with some one-liner. However, interacting with them through the wheels sees to work just fine.

 

When they try to escape and I catch them, then I get dialog options, which are mostly functional (sex & bondage), but the punishment option (whipping) does not seem to do anything.

 

Is that intended behavior? If not, any tips on how to fix this?

 

In case it helps, here is my load order (sorry 300 mods, added DOM quite recently, but reproduced the behavior on a fresh save):
 

Spoiler

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LycHairstyler.esp
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SLACS.esp
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Stendarr Rising - Los II patch.esp
Stendarr Rising - RDO patch.esp
Stendarr Rising - RDO Update Patch.esp
Pahe_AltStartLAL.esp
Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
Ambient Slaves SE.esp
AS-3DNPC Compatibility Patch.esp
AS-CRF Compatibility Patch.esp
AS-LOS Compatibility Patch.esp
AS-SMIM Compatibility Patch.esp

 

 

Version information on the (probably?) most important dependencies:

• Skyrim SE 1.5.97
• SKSE 2.00.20
• SkyUI 5.2
• FNIS 7.6
• SexLab Framework 1.63
• ZaZ 8+ CBBE HDT V.8.0+SEREV3
• Devious Devices 5.1
• SlaveTatsSE 1.3.7.7
• Paradise Halls Enhanced (PAHE) SSE 8.1.5
• PAH Home Sweet Home 1.26
• PAH And You Get A Slave! 0.57
• PAH Diary of Mine 3.2.3

Thanks for any help you can offer.

[Good Provider]

 

4 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

Not sure what your describing here. The slave capture can go wrong, especially if you're experiencing script lag or if you're leaving the area in the middle of the process. I lost slaves to the limbo because of that and that happened with PAHE alone too.

 

What do you mean with "Never escape PAH's list"?

So you are enslaving your way through a Womanized bandit camp. When you are done, you will end up with 10~15 girls on your slave list.  Most will be with you in some reasonable trained state.  One to two will have ran away 40 minutes ago and you lost track of them. A few more will be crawling around "defeated", but uncollected, with unknown locations.  Especially if your trained slaves ran a-mock across a large enough area with you running from girl to girl trying to enslave before the slaughter.

 

Currently these women just sit on the list forever.  Which I'm fine with.  I use teleport to bring them to my location and train what is left.  If I was more roleplay inclinded, I would want them to drop off the list and be free, if I didn't get back to them in time.  Which is why I suggested an escape threshold, after which a girl who is either running away or left uncollected long enough will escape from the list.
 

 

• It is this clean up phase where tagging slaves in the list would be most helpful.  I am rubbish with names, so tagging the slave list with those defeated, uncollected or "escaping" would really help me process the list much faster.  It would also let me know which girl in my harem needs some special attention. 

 

For suggestions.  How about an ordered tag list.  With tags added in a fixed order:  near/far/location_name, hate/loyal/love, ok/angry/terrified/shock, aroused, defeated/escaping/restrained, etc . This way you don't need to enumerate all the state combinations, just add the correct set of tags. Near/far are with in the same location, but with in character visibility/sound space. 

 

You can add your approximate state to the tag: near love, near shocked

 

"near, hate, shocked, aroused", "honeysuckle, near loyal, angry" "near, love, shocked, aroused" "far, hate, terrified, escaping"

 

4 hours ago, TrollAutokill said:

That's a feature, buy you can deactivate the alarm in the MCM menu, debug section.

 

hmm.  I've never seen it happen. Will have to test it out tonight.

Edited October 5, 2022 by Good Provider

[Khe]

3.2.2 wheel hotkey config menu is better.

also, still unchanged typos under DOM02DialogueAnswerThanksRespect: "You are as wondrous as the etheral plane". should be ethereal

then we have "<X> choose to stop waiting" which should be "chooses"

after picking 'display' from the wheel, I can't get one of my slaves to do any poses, though forcing the 'humiliation' option fixed it. her neck also had this weird scrunched look like...uh...turtle.

clothes order menu: "ripp-off" rip has only one 'p'

 

further, yknow how there's that followup action from punish -> didnt pose -> <X>, where the slave will (may?) resume pose? it's not resuming the right pose and is instead defaulting to 'cute'. similar in the 'stops posing then resumes' dink. Given that I want my girls to be in the 'submissive' pose this is...not really acceptable. wouldn't be as big a problem except that I have to order them to do some other pose besides cute/submissive, then set them back to submissive, in order to get them back into the pose.

worse, when one of 'em did the swap to 'cute' and I tried 'light', she is now in the cute poses with a torch. similarly, any other poses seem to  get them stuck with the anim objects (one girl has a silver cup, one has a flower basket)

also, idk if these are specifically PAH or your version of its scripts, but:

all my slaves are listed as male in the PAH menu

the option to rebind 'whistle' and 'mark': where's the 'reset' button since 'esc' doesnt work and instead just binds THAT button to them? ideally, whatever the 'system tab' base-game keybind is at the time should be the keybind input that forcibly REMOVES the keybindings. failing that, a manual 'reset all keybindings' button...

hell, it wont let export the whistle keybind either, and wont accept importing either, so it's basically impossible to UNBIND these.  REALLY not good given how limited keybinds are.

[sidfu1]

1. when enslaving ALWAYS save.  stop what you doing if you can and WAIT for i tot finish. if you dont get the dialogue"now your a slave" then reload save or kill slave. they are bugged and ccan bug any salve enslaved after that

2. for punishment you need ot hit them and do damage. if you using mods that say make armor  block all damge or such then it will fail. any damge will work long as its damge