[WIP]Mermaids

[firepower02]

I don't think those posted earlier in the thread are meshes that can be used in game. They are not .nif files.

[firepower02]

When can you be able to upload a .nif file mesh of the mermaid body? Which version of 3ds max are you using? Someone told me that I should download the student version 3ds max 2012. I haven't tried it yet, but maybe this version will work with skyrim. He also gave me a link to this video tutorial on exporting a nif.

http://www.youtube.com/user/NightasyTutorials

[firepower02]

Hi Suludi, just wondering if you're gonna officially quit making a mermaid now? Or if you're gonna continue making mermaid animations. I have incorporated your underwater mage attack into my game if that's fine with you. It looks like a dual cast animation. I think it would also be nice to have a tail kick for the hand to hand combat.

 

These are the names of the files to replace for the mermaid hand to hand animations. Although they could just be repeated animation if they are very similar. I'm sorry if there's too many, and there could be more, but these are the ones that I tried replacing with your underwater mage attack to see which is which.

 

H2H_AttackLeft.hkx

h2h_attackpowerforwardlefthand.hkx

h2h_attackpowerforwardrighthand.hkx

H2H_AttackRight.hkx

h2h_attackrightpowerforward.hkx

h2h_idle.hkx

 

The magic casting animation has a lot of different files. It will be a really long list.

So what I did is make a new race, replace all their walk, run, and sneak animations with the mermaid swim animations, including the idles. I have made them a swim only race, so there wouldn't be floating mermaids, and attach a script to them to stop swimming so they would use the walk/run animations (which are techinically still swim animations) when in water. This way the mermaids would be able to attack underwater, also by removing the condition that prevents magic or attack when underwater.

 

[Suludi]

That's awesome! Since I can't script, I have no idea how to bind the animation to a condition, I would just have used the body as an armour but I like what you did there. And no, I'm not officially quitting. Not unofficially either. It's just that RL gave me a bad kick where it really hurts, and I haven't been able to do anything. I'm sorry.

 

Do you have a downloadable file esp so I can see what you did? Does the underwater attack work?

[firepower02]

Yes the underwater attack animation worked. It's a very simple script I made that makes them always stop swimming, since they can't attack while swimming. Don't worry about this part, I will take care of it if you want, and put all your animations into the mermaid race. It's more on the editing the animation paths than a script really. I have issues in RL as well, so welcome to the club, but I put my angst towards it into creating a mermaid race, instead of letting it hinder me, it makes me drive harder further.

It's not just an esp file, it also has a new set of animation files. Since the mermaid animations are not yet complete, they will use most of the vanilla animations and it doesn't' look right in water.

I don't know if you agree to this, but I made two types of mermaid races. I can't think of other ways how to make this work. One type is the mermaid who can attack underwater, but cannot be land. The other one is a mermaid who can be on land, but cannot attack underwater. Don't worry, they look exactly the same have have exactly the same attributes. They change into the mermaid who can attack underwater when there's a slaughterfish, and change back into the mermaid who can be on land after combat so they will be able to follow you. It all happens silently in the background, so you won't even know they switched races. How do you take videos in skyrim?

 

The mage attack uses your animation, but the staff attack uses the vanilla.

[Suludi]

This looks great! I had no idea whether it would be possible to make the underwater attack work, kudos to you! It's no problem to change the staff animation too. If you want to make a video, I recommend Bandicam.

[firepower02]

Thanks! I'll try to make a video. It's actually all your hard work, I just implemented them in game. Is it ok with you to make all of the underwater animations, such as attacks, idles, bleedout, and the turning? There's going to be a ton of animations, ie, when attacking, there is different animation for drawing/sheathing weapon/magic, different for striking/casting, different for just idle, different for casting/striking while moving. but you could probably recycle the animations if they are too similar. I will take care of finding the correct file names and putting them in game.

 

[mantaman]

woah, progress, good job FP,

 

oi, so they're gonna be exclusive to just water now?

[firepower02]

 

oi, so they're gonna be exclusive to just water now?

 

Ofcourse not, but as of the moment, there are no mermaid land animations, so they're exclusively in water for now. Otherwise they will be floating in air, and I'm sure you wouldn't want that. It greatly depends on Suludi if she's willing to make mermaid land animations as well. And believe be, there will be a lot of new animations needed including just for simple things like sitting, and other idles. The underwater animations are not even half complete yet. Maybe you should start helping her? Pretty please? The more people working on it, the sooner it will be done. I don't know how to animate, so I am just adding her animations to the new race and make sure the file names are correct, and that they don't freeze. It is also kind of hard.

[Suludi]

I have all the filenames, so you don't need to worry about that. My greatest concern was including everything into the game, and I'm more than happy that you're willing to do it! (Not that I'm not willing but I just don't have a first idea how to do that). Which skeleton did you use?

[magnusx]

Underwater quests, oh my, skyrim never ends! Thnx for your amazing work!

[firepower02]

I have all the filenames, so you don't need to worry about that. My greatest concern was including everything into the game, and I'm more than happy that you're willing to do it! (Not that I'm not willing but I just don't have a first idea how to do that). Which skeleton did you use?

 

Yes I'll so get all of the animations in game for the race. That's good that you know all of the filenames as there are some that I don't know yet. Are you going to have different animations for male and female, or the same? What do you mean which skeleton I use? I think I'm using unp female body, and sos regular male body, if that's what you mean?

[Suludi]

UNP and SOS are the nif body meshes but I need to know which skeleton you have underneath. XP32? Or a beast race? I need it to decide which bones I use for the animations. I used the beast skeleton with all extras (including wings) for the new tailbone swim animation, and I'd like to keep working with that one. But since you already have created a mermaid race, I'd rather use yours so we don't get any conflicts.

 

Maybe XP32 IS the fully extra-ed beast skeleton nowadays, I lost track. ^^

[magnusx]

yea, it is the one, eve in hdt is the one that haves more attention

[lindazana]

 

 there are no mermaid land animations, so they're exclusively in water for now. Otherwise they will be floating in air, and I'm sure you wouldn't want that.

 

I see no reason they cant "swim" a few feet above the floor. Easy enough to say it's a mermaid-learned spell of lesser levitation. Would vastly simplify things, and ensure that the hard work spent on the swimming is able to be used everywhere by those interested. 

 

(And before I'm pounced on like last time I mentioned something of the sort, be aware this will not change the end result of things so much as be a simple and easy option to choose, via .esp or a MCM option)

[firepower02]

UNP and SOS are the nif body meshes but I need to know which skeleton you have underneath. XP32? Or a beast race? I need it to decide which bones I use for the animations. I used the beast skeleton with all extras (including wings) for the new tailbone swim animation, and I'd like to keep working with that one. But since you already have created a mermaid race, I'd rather use yours so we don't get any conflicts.

 

Maybe XP32 IS the fully extra-ed beast skeleton nowadays, I lost track. ^^

I honestly don't know what's underneath the skeleton. How do I know what they are? I have not really downloaded any skeletons, so I think mine is the vanilla one. And winged mermaids sounds nice.

Btw, since you have the list of all the animation file names. Maybe you can tell which ones need replacing. I think when she draws weapon/magic it doesn't look right.

 

 

 

I see no reason they cant "swim" a few feet above the floor. Easy enough to say it's a mermaid-learned spell of lesser levitation. Would vastly simplify things, and ensure that the hard work spent on the swimming is able to be used everywhere by those interested. 

 

(And before I'm pounced on like last time I mentioned something of the sort, be aware this will not change the end result of things so much as be a simple and easy option to choose, via .esp or a MCM option)

 

They have legs on land, and tails in water.

 

[Gumihoyah]

it seems to be getting along nicely! congratz on all the hard work so far!

[firepower02]

Hi Suludi, just wondering when we can have the rest of the mermaid underwater animations? It's been 2 months since the last post.

[Suludi]

"The rest"... will take a while. I'm sorry to drop out on you like this but I'll be kicked out of my flat next month if I don't find a job ASAP, so that is higher on my priority list right now.

[mantaman]

 

 

oi, so they're gonna be exclusive to just water now?

 

Ofcourse not, but as of the moment, there are no mermaid land animations, so they're exclusively in water for now. Otherwise they will be floating in air, and I'm sure you wouldn't want that. It greatly depends on Suludi if she's willing to make mermaid land animations as well. And believe be, there will be a lot of new animations needed including just for simple things like sitting, and other idles. The underwater animations are not even half complete yet. Maybe you should start helping her? Pretty please? The more people working on it, the sooner it will be done. I don't know how to animate, so I am just adding her animations to the new race and make sure the file names are correct, and that they don't freeze. It is also kind of hard.

 

 

ah, i would have helped if i knew what i was doing, and i kinda left when i was sure the topic died, buuuut, a new day, a new chance to learn stuff right? im gonna see what i can sorta do animation wise(which probably wont be much), and see what else is possible quest line wise. :U

 

anyway, its good to hear from you two again! :U

[Ashkandii]

im not gonna bother with reading all 31 pages of what everyone has posted 

so ima be the retard that gonna say something thats already been discussed but excuse my lazyness

 

if you base the mermaids like from pirates of the Caribbean, you see they lose they're legs after a time and struggle to walk but soon as they touch water there well her legs slowly transforms to her tail so, what i was thinking if you had the starter area at Sea and have it as a transformation like the succubus race where u activate wings off/on same with the tail but with kinda, restrictions but that may be hard to make having a restriction to land with the power on because obviously you'll have to cover each and every swimmable area then have a quest where you get to a certain location on land then you start to stumble a bit fall over there and here then finally learn to walk obviously this is like a whole new thing and alot more then you anticipated but it would be a nice addon and a good coverage to be lazy and say meh, water only mode. but also putting in enough work with a short storyline to not even bother if its water only mod.

but yeah my opinion. 

[firepower02]

I hope you will be able to find a job soon. I dream, that modding is an actual job where you actually get paid to make animations and stuff, wouldn't it be nice, that way we have fewer things to worry about.

 

I will upload a mermaid mod and hope that it will inspire others.

 

 

 

 

ah, i would have helped if i knew what i was doing, and i kinda left when i was sure the topic died, buuuut, a new day, a new chance to learn stuff right? im gonna see what i can sorta do animation wise(which probably wont be much), and see what else is possible quest line wise. :U

 

anyway, its good to hear from you two again! :U

 

 

If you mean me and Suludi, then good to hear from you as well. Just when we figured out how to

- restrict the swim animations only to mermaids so not everyone swims like a mermaid

- enable underwater combat for mermaids

- and make them transform tails in water, and legs on land, either manually or automatically.

the topic died.

I think it's all set, the only thing missing are the rest of the underwater animations, the transformation from legs to tail and vice versa animation, male version, and optional armors and weaponry, which can be added later on.

You don't have to make underwater animations if it's too difficult, you can make other stuff like mermaid armors, weapons, houses and a male mermaid, which we don't have yet. You can also make sea creatures to fill the water with, so it won't be just mermaids.

 

[SomeDragonbornGuy]

I hope you will be able to find a job soon. I dream, that modding is an actual job where you actually get paid to make animations and stuff, wouldn't it be nice, that way we have fewer things to worry about.

 

I will upload a mermaid mod and hope that it will inspire others.

 

 

 

 

ah, i would have helped if i knew what i was doing, and i kinda left when i was sure the topic died, buuuut, a new day, a new chance to learn stuff right? im gonna see what i can sorta do animation wise(which probably wont be much), and see what else is possible quest line wise. :U

 

anyway, its good to hear from you two again! :U

 

 

If you mean me and Suludi, then good to hear from you as well. Just when we figured out how to

- restrict the swim animations only to mermaids so not everyone swims like a mermaid

- enable underwater combat for mermaids

- and make them transform tails in water, and legs on land, either manually or automatically.

the topic died.

I think it's all set, the only thing missing are the rest of the underwater animations, the transformation from legs to tail and vice versa animation, male version, and optional armors and weaponry, which can be added later on.

You don't have to make underwater animations if it's too difficult, you can make other stuff like mermaid armors, weapons, houses and a male mermaid, which we don't have yet. You can also make sea creatures to fill the water with, so it won't be just mermaids.

 

I really hope to see this move forward. The Sea in skyrim

has always left a void.

[AMagicalCat]

i definitly like this mod and this its a rlly great idea, and making both genders of mermaid(man) i think would be rlly intresting to see, also, making the transformation a spell you could possible make it so in the tailed form being above ground/in air too long suffocates you, like being underwater does for the normal races, and the normal for the human form, i think you can do really amazing things with this stuff, underwater in skyrim was always lacking, this will be great to see!

[thomas00126]

i hope this goes mod come true ive been reading every post here i really hope you guys can do this good luck and stay strong