[WIP]Mermaids

[firepower02]

Yes why? What do mermaids have to do with dragonborn? This better be relevant.

And if Suludi is willing to make transforming animations, maybe we can have legs transforming to tail animations and tail transforming to legs animations.

[mantaman]

its the housing man, the houses on solsteim would make excellent merfolk houses, unless we just decide to give merpeople regular houses, or dwarven houses

 

and for transformation animations, we wont need them underwater, but if were doing them on land, the process of turning into a mer should just be that the character falls forward, with the camera still stuck in the same position that it was in, then the the camera adjusts downward to show you on the ground, as a merperson

 

and getting back up will be, the camera pans back upwards again, and your character gets legs, and plays the get off the ground animation (the one you get after you ragdoll)

[firepower02]

Suludi, I tried the mermaid mesh of skirmish with your swimming animations, unfortunately it isn't compatible, the tailfin part would fold. I know you are making your own mermaid tail mesh that will be compatible with the swim animations, I hope you can share it with us. I have succesfully made a test mermaid who will change outfit whenever she's swimming or on land.

 

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But since it is an outfit change, when the mermaid gets out of water, there will be instances where you will see her running/walking while still wearing the mermaid suit, and you can imagine how bad that looks, but this is only for a very short while.

I tried a race change script, but for some reason, the mermaid gets confused when swimming, she keeps changing back from human to mermaid form.

[mantaman]

oh shiiiit, drop a download link firepower

[firepower02]

You mean Suludi? The mermaid mesh of Skirmish isn't compatible with Suludi's swim animations, sometimes it explodes, and it has no texture yet. But no worries, Suludi said she would make her own mermaid mesh. Btw, I hope you will make your mermaid mesh as independently relorable from the upper body, and tail part.

[Suludi]

I'm sorry, I haven't been able to do anything useful yet. Today, I managed to make a swimming mageattack animation at least but I totally suck at getting that tail armour to work. If anyone knows how to create a mesh armour and attach it to the bones, please help!

 

Basically, I don't want an automatic change "when in water / when on land". I want the mermaids to have some control over what they do.

[mantaman]

oi, well since underwater fighting is being done, maybe tails can be a bound armour sorta thing? bound armour that changes land animations?

 

oh, btw, relevant to the armor situation: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/23173/?

 

if they're pg from the waist down, i wouldnt worry too hard about armour

[firepower02]

I totally suck at getting that tail armour to work. If anyone knows how to create a mesh armour and attach it to the bones, please help!

Can you please be specific what kind of tail armor that you like? Someone might make one but I don't know if you will like it.

 

Basically, I don't want an automatic change "when in water / when on land". I want the mermaids to have some control over what they do.

 

You mean they change into mermaid form regardless whether they are in land or in water, and they can also have legs if they are in water. How about for mermaid npc? When is the time for them to change into mermaid form, they kind of rely on ai package if it's not automatic.

 

I hope you will be able to share the mermaid tail mesh, and the new mageattack animation. It would be nice to test them in game. Is there a way to make the underwater animations exclusive to mermaids?

[Zitanna]

Not sure if this has been posted, but you could add http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50632/? to it, if you want a "race weapon"

[firepower02]

Thanks for the link, I've never seen it before. I've equipped my mermaid with the trident.

[mantaman]

oi, firepower, the tail that you're using, is it equipable like armour?

[firepower02]

Yes, why? It has no textures, will explode at times, and look weird when swimming. My friend is still working on it, maybe you can help if you know how to mesh, I don't.

[mantaman]

aaah, i dont know how to mesh stuff, but i was gonna see if it was compatible with this armour idea i had

 

oh, and suludi (i feel like ive asked this a bunch of diff times, forgive me) can we get another wip video?

[firepower02]

What do you mean compatible? It uses the body slot, so any armor that uses that slot won't be compatible, unless it uses a different slot. And you wouldn't like it anyway because it doesn't have genitals.

[cordate]

 

oh, btw, relevant to the armor situation: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/23173/?

 

if they're pg from the waist down, i wouldnt worry too hard about armour

 

There's What to Wear as well, for torso armor bits separate from the leg and waist meshes. 

[Gumihoyah]

Been trying to catch up on this topic and it all seems like something amazing when it will be playable ^-^

 

A little question thgh! Will it become possible for your character to become a mermaid after a questline with its own tree or will u need to make a new race specificaly?

 

I could easely see myself whinding up in a seacave dungeon being approached by some seahag who would need to transform me into a mermaid to do something dragonborny only to find out it was for her personal gain and I need to kill her being stuck with the mermaid gift/curse forever belonging neither to land nor sea but stuck in the middle

[The Matrix Prime]

So I've been working on the vagina this morning, and I'm still currently matching up the two meshes together, but before I do that long process of getting every vertex to match up, what do you guys think so far? Should it be kept or tossed? Also, any better placement in mind?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Updated... Any Suggestions, comments, concerns?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As I think was mentioned earlier in this thread, mermaid's tails shouldn't start so high on their bodies. They shouldn't be start at the waist, they should be starting below the hips/ass, replacing only the legs. Takes care of your problem right there.

 

Examples:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you look at older imagery of mermaids, you'll find that their tails started this way. The waist mermaids are the "kid friendly" version.

 

My two cents anyway. . .

[Gumihoyah]

As I think was mentioned earlier in this thread, mermaid's tails shouldn't start so high on their bodies. They shouldn't be start at the waist, they should be starting below the hips/ass, replacing only the legs. Takes care of your problem right there.

 

Examples:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you look at older imagery of mermaids, you'll find that their tails started this way. The waist mermaids are the "kid friendly" version.

 

My two cents any. . .

That's actually super sexy xD

[aravis7]

I agree, I really prefered the mesh from eternal black : )

[firepower02]

The good thing is, it won't be restrictive. Those who prefer their mermaids in that certain way can easily change the mesh.

 

I'm still waiting for Suludi to upload her version of the mermaid tail mesh, or someone else's that she would actually like enough to test with her swim animations.

[firepower02]

I added the crawl on all fours animation (which is a sneak animation replacer) to my mermaid. I have her always sneak when on land while wearing a tail, It looks convincing, but there are times when the animation would roll like a ninja, stands up, and attacking also makes them stand up a bit. I guess it was not really an animation made for mermaids, but close enough. If someone knows of another sneak animation that is similar to how a mermaid would do on land? I made 3 mermaids in my game, permanent, automatic, and voluntary. Also mermaid tail meshes are desperately needed to have variety.

[mantaman]

oi, the crawl on all fours is a good base for mermaid movement animations, but it needs tweaking in the posture: the head needs to be raised forward and maybe a bit slower?

 

but like what i said a few pages back, if we pretty much get all the vanilla fighting/idling/crafting anims, but in a kneeling posture, it can work, of course, stuff like using the grindstone would just open up the crafting window instead of playing the animation, oi, also, you'd be immobile while swinging weapons, or having them drawn

 

other then that, the only other mermaid movement i can think up is a tediously slow "dragging your tail behind yourself" kind of thing, which would severely nerf your ability to defend yourself, or even move outside of water

 

ya know what would be convenient? an animation for your follower to carry you

 

oi, also, does anyone know how to make the crawl on fours animation, the default walking animation for mers?

[Halstrom]

Any tail dragging or crawling on land animation could only be 1 minute or 2 till the tail dries out and legs form, there's bound to be some disadvantages why Mermaids don't just pop in and out of water with no care.

[firepower02]

ya know what would be convenient? an animation for your follower to carry you

 

oi, also, does anyone know how to make the crawl on fours animation, the default walking animation for mers?

 

Lol! That would be really convenient. Even if you're not a mermaid, just when your health is slow. You should ask Suludi to make that.

And as of the moment, I don't know of any, the only thing I did was make them always sneak when the tail is equipped. I feel bad for them though crawling while catching up to me.

[mantaman]

Any tail dragging or crawling on land animation could only be 1 minute or 2 till the tail dries out and legs form, there's bound to be some disadvantages why Mermaids don't just pop in and out of water with no care.

oi, it could seriously vary from species to species, 2/1 minutes would be the longest i'd think would work, with the exception of permanently tailed mermaids

 

 

ya know what would be convenient? an animation for your follower to carry you

 

oi, also, does anyone know how to make the crawl on fours animation, the default walking animation for mers?

 

Lol! That would be really convenient. Even if you're not a mermaid, just when your health is slow. You should ask Suludi to make that.

And as of the moment, I don't know of any, the only thing I did was make them always sneak when the tail is equipped. I feel bad for them though crawling while catching up to me.

 

maaan, she's busy enough making the swim/crawl animations

 

oh, FP, mind takin pics of these mers, with upperbody armour from What To Wear or Greaves Return?(if you downloaded them, that is, but if ya havent, thats fine)