Character becomes invisible randomly in 3rd person

[Rocketman_]

On 10/28/2020 at 10:36 AM, Excurios said:

Hey, thanks for your reply.

I've thought about that possibility but my graphic card is quite beefy (RTX 2080, 8gb VRAM), and 16gb RAM.

 

 

Same I have very similar specs (RTX 2070, 8gb VRAM) 16gb RAM I don't think it's a memory issue either.

 

Interestingly enough I haven't seen this issue in my game in quite a while now, hopefully it got fixed in my game somehow. It'll probably just appear again out of nowhere when I'm least expecting it though.

[Excurios]

9 hours ago, Rocketman142 said:

Same I have very similar specs (RTX 2070, 8gb VRAM) 16gb RAM I don't think it's a memory issue either.

 

Interestingly enough I haven't seen this issue in my game in quite a while now, hopefully it got fixed in my game somehow. It'll probably just appear again out of nowhere when I'm least expecting it though.

For me, it became more frequent the moment I was using CBPC (I was using 3BBB by acro without the CBPC plugin). It might be related to the collision somehow.

[Rocketman_]

I was using CBBE SMP by ousnius when I was getting the issue, now I've switched over to 3BBB SMP by Acro and I have yet to see the issue. I've only been using it for a couple of weeks though. 

 

I've also recently ditched the mods 3PCO and aim fix as I figured they might have been the issue, I'm now using SmoothCam. 

[Excurios]

12 minutes ago, Rocketman142 said:

I was using CBBE SMP by ousnius when I was getting the issue, now I've switched over to 3BBB SMP by Acro and I have yet to see the issue. I've only been using it for a couple of weeks though. 

 

I've also recently ditched the mods 3PCO and aim fix as I figured they might have been the issue, I'm now using SmoothCam. 

Like you, I thought that 3PCO might be the problem, so I've started a new game some times ago without 3PCO since it was also annoying for me (especially when using a bow), but the problem still occurs, even with vanilla camera.

[Excurios]

@Rocketman142 Hey, sorry to bother you again but did you met this problem again ? Any luck with 3BBB ? I've been trying for week to find out the real cause without any clues ...

[Rocketman_]

10 hours ago, Excurios said:

@Rocketman142 Hey, sorry to bother you again but did you met this problem again ? Any luck with 3BBB ? I've been trying for week to find out the real cause without any clues ...

Nah I still haven't encountered the bug in quite a while, but then again I haven't been playing Skyrim nearly as much as I was a few months ago. I've only been in a few caves recently which is where I always encountered the bug, still haven't reproduced the bug though.

[Excurios]

Thanks for your reply, so I guess it's safe to say that this problem is not related to SMP or CBPC then.

[mircislav]

Have you tried playing without 360 run-walk?

[Excurios]

No, I've never tried.

Do you think it might be the problem? It's the 360 Movement Behavior by DServant. I didn't see any reports about invisibility or character disappearing.

[mircislav]

The Force works in mysterious ways...

[Excurios]

So does Skyrim Engine ?

[Rocketman_]

On 11/9/2020 at 6:38 AM, Excurios said:

So does Skyrim Engine ?

I spoke too soon, I once again encountered the bug in "Snapleg Cave" although it went away after a couple of seconds of moving between being invisible and visible.

Oh well...

[Excurios]

Welcome back then ?

I've found nothing yet. Guess we are cursed. I can only count two mods that affects interiors on my load order :

- RLO but I had this problem even with RLO disabled on a new game

- Skyrim Project Optimization but it can't be the culprit since it does not affect cave or dungeon

[Excurios]

And in case you want to troubleshoot your load order, camera mods aren't the culprit too, since I had this problem even with vanilla camera.

[Tlam99]

If it happens at the same location, why not gather additional info.

 

save and load when invisible

save and exit to desktop, restart

use a torch or magelight

change from 3rd to 1th person view

start a single person animation, eg sexlab debug spell

change armor, weapons

drink a potion or spell on you

start conversation

read a book

open map

conjure a creature

just anything changing environment

[Excurios]

It's random, I never said it was on the same location.

[Tlam99]

3 minutes ago, Excurios said:

It's random, I never said it was on the same location.

Sure, but in your movie it happens on the same location, walk a little visible, walk back invisible.

What I mean, if it happens again, it would possibly help to narrow it down.

[Excurios]

5 minutes ago, T-lam said:

Sure, but in your movie it happens on the same location, walk a little visible, walk back invisible.

What I mean, if it happens again, it would possibly help to narrow it down.

So far the only fix are saving and reloading, or if I stay on the spot for some minutes the problem may disappear. 

[chevalierx]

On 11/11/2020 at 7:01 PM, Excurios said:

So far the only fix are saving and reloading, or if I stay on the spot for some minutes the problem may disappear. 

i have same probleme , i think is spell /effect attached to char like face light , or vanilla spell/potion effect ,

[Excurios]

Well sorry to hear that. Until today I can't tell what was the cause of this issue.

[anjenthedog]

idk if anyone has suggested it, but have you tried an smp reset from console when it happens? 

[Excurios]

49 minutes ago, anjenthedog said:

idk if anyone has suggested it, but have you tried an smp reset from console when it happens? 

Yeah I did, without any luck.

[Breadisntgreen]

Any progress on the trouble shooting? Ive been experiencing the exact same issue. Ill post up my mods list. If you would please look for similarity in our mods.

 

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Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
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[anjenthedog]

For anyone using CCA, (Copy Character Appearance) that's a definite source. In this case, it usually happens when one enters first-person mode,  and then the artifact is produced when you zoom or hotkey back to 3rd-person mode (not always but more often than not, and way way too often!!), or when entering sneak mode (possibly accounted for by stealth buffs in certain cases, but exiting sneak mode leaves one invisible),  or more randomly and rarely in caves and other interior spaces while moving around and some "magical"  (not magickal) boundary is crossed.

 

When the invisibility bug is encountered, (no matter its apparent "active" cause), most of the time one can walk for a while (distance can vary from a few "yards" to hundreds of feet) and the character will reappear suddenly, as if a threshold was passed, and very rarely in interior spaces,  it's as simple as rotating the character pointing direction.,

 

although I think more specifically, some game-driven player-auto-refresh is triggered at cell or ?subcell? ?navmesh? boundaries, which makes the character visible again.

 

Other times, nothing I do fixes it, at which point the only recourse is to create a save *in third person, exit the game entirely, and then reload the game and that savefile). Also most times, a "major" cell transition (door, cave entrance, etc)  while in third person causes the player to reappear. (again, not always, sometimes, interestingly enough, the game resolves after a doorway or entranceway transition in first person mode instead of the third person mode I thought it would...)

 

Anecdotal, and perhaps specific only to Copy Character Appearance (CCA), but who knows, it might help someone have an AHA! moment and help us all avoid it in the future. 

[Tlam99]

DD or ZAz scan could be a source, too.

Got this effect when gagged by a spider, but happens quite rarely.